Kyiv

[QUOTE=Happymojo]I went to the Lux last Saturday. No face control, 200 uah to get in and drinks are around 80 uah so kind of expensive. Very nice 4 level restaurant, disco, bar. But my experience there is that if you are dark skin (black, middle eastern, etc.) the girls would not talk to you. I am in my mid 30's, good looking, dress well, and speak flaunt English and American but from Middle eastern origin. I talked to several girls at the bar that they nicely rejected me but after I left they start smiling and talking to these other guys which they were in their 50-70's. It could be just I talked to the wrong girls and just that night but after I left there I went to Buddha Bar next to the poker club and I got hooked up with a former RP hottie for $200 and also bought her a drink. Buddha bar very nice place. Took her to my flat and did all the positions with CIM. I will post the pictures soon. I have not check Avalon and shooters yet but I am going to check Avalon and shooters this coming weekend.[/QUOTE]Thanks,

Tried to PM you to get details of the former RP hottie, but it wasn't allowed maybe you haven't got a subscription.

Now I have two problems being dark skinned and fairly young.

Let me know how you get on at the weekend.

According to the girls at HELP in Rio the criteria are:

Not fat, not old, not ugly.......... unless the girls are skanks desperate for business.

Given the history of brutal warfare between the Turks and the Christians in this part of the world, history may be working against you with some girls. Just a guess; or it could be that the girls knew the old guys and they pay more, a lot more. At the end of the day what the girls see is money.

Either way it sounds like you succeeded.




I am in my mid 30's, good looking, dress well, and speak flaunt English and American but from Middle eastern origin.

[QUOTE=Immy007]Thanks,

Tried to PM you to get details of the former RP hottie, but it wasn't allowed maybe you haven't got a subscription.

Now I have two problems being dark skinned and fairly young.

Let me know how you get on at the weekend.[/QUOTE]I can't get subscription until i get back to USA. Don't have credit card and bank visa debit card ( long story ). I thought about mailing the subscription money from here to USA but friend of mine told me most likely the money will get stolen by Ukrainian postal worker ( It happened to him ) . I will check shooters tonight. It is ladies night. I will report on that tomorrow but don't worry about your young age. If you are young you can get freebie's. The best place for freebie's is call Vodka Bar under the Maydan. I was able to score 2 freebie's there. Most of the girls are from 18-24 and student. Get there before 11 PM and get a table. You can get 0.5 litter bottle of vodka with 6 red bull for 220 uah ( not bad ) then have the girls come and sit with you.

[QUOTE=Happymojo]You can get 0.5 litter bottle of vodka with 6 red bull for 220 uah ( not bad ) then have the girls come and sit with you.[/QUOTE]

You can do the same at Shooters, and most other clubs. It's around 200 for vodka and maybe another 100 for Red Bulls.

I have managed to see 6 girls from Mamba, and have a foursome lined up with 3 girls shortly.

I am writing this in what HunterDave would may call "a downtime break", having just seen off Girlfriend#1 (another mamba contact originally), on the pretext of having to go to work. Walked her to mashrutka, and back to catch up with emails and mamba messages!

It seems true that at the moment girls are desperate, and there is a lot of new talent. September is a great month because universities are back, girls need money after a summer often spent at their home towns and spending money on holiday to Turkey, Egypt, Krym etc.

So I read somewhere on here 1000 UAH for 2-3 hours with a Mamba contact is good....well, without any problem at all, I have been getting somwhere between 500-800 UAH for 2-3 hours. Only two have rejected my lower offers. For your info the foursome was supposed to be a threesome for 1400 for 2-3 hours, but they are bringing another friend along for the ride, so to speak. So don't overpay, and yes freebies are definitely available on mamba.
Last p4p was so good in bed, she stayed 3 hours instead of 90 mins, we got on very very well, so I did give her nice tip. We agreed 600 for 90 mins, and she was delighted with $100(c.800UAH), for 3 hours of everything included sex, now that is good value for me, but now I am annoyed I did not work harder at Mamba before and relied on Riv.Pal as the easy option!!

Girlfriend#2 was cultivated over a long time (non Mamba) very shy, 24yo and she has the key to my apartment tonight.

Meanwhile I met another new regular girl from Mamba this week too, and she is sensationally sexy, intelligent 1st year lawyer. She could become GF#3 I hope, though juggling two freebies and p4p is difficult enough! I shall have to drop one if #3 passes the second interview!!

This trip Kyiv seems like the old honeypot days. However YMMV....my last trip was totally dry of freebies, and my other trip this year was a struggle. But lots of time was put into mamba before coming over, and it's paid off spectacularly.

So sadly, no time (or need) to call anyone from topmodels yet (still a chance). Apartment on Kreshchatyk is still taking incalls, useful if you have got a live-in girlfriend in your apartment, or you are in non-girl friendly hotel.
No time for Rakuena yet (I have to experience it once every trip), but the honey-tap is still flowing nicely. Not even had time to see HunterDave again - hope you're ok and poppin' the pills still!!!

Dear Collegue,

The next month I will came in Kiev for 2 weeks,

Usually I take a meeting with mamba girl, but this time I want check a new girls in a different place.

Do you Know any:

-Wellness center

-Sweet Club for Couple and Single

In Kiev?

Many Thank's

This is so funny but I go back 10 pages and all I see on every page Mamba mamba mamba. So I checked it out on google using my roomate's computer (I am here in St Pete's currently for few days, my first time in this area at all) and when I go to the site I am already logged in as him.

I was wondering why it said I had messages and such. I will have to make my own profile.

However, since I couldn't find too much info on this by going back many many pages, I am assuming I just use tineye to spot the fake fotos and perhaps blur out my face or something? I don't know if it is safe to use my real photo.

[QUOTE=Mellowtrax]Day 1 – Thursday (budget day)

From the airport to my apartment just behind Khreschatyk Station: 250 grivna. A cheaper option, if you don't have private transfer arranged in advance and don't feel/are able to negotiate the price with the taxi drivers in Russian, is to take the shuttle bus just outside Boryspil. As far as I could understand the bus makes several stops at central places in downtown Kiev, and the price is about 23 € for a return ticket.[/QUOTE]

There is a regular bus, starting in front of the entrance of the airport, to the Central Railway Station, for about 30UHA. And then to take a taxi, or the metro, for real budget travellers :-)

Any up-to-date info about a reasonable priced girl friendly hotel ?
I will arrive on 26-Sept in Borispol, considering to spend a night or two in Kiev before heading to Nikolaev.

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]There is a regular bus, starting in front of the entrance of the airport, to the Central Railway Station, for about 30UHA. And then to take a taxi, or the metro, for real budget travellers :-)[/QUOTE]I believe the bus from the airport to the central railway station costs about 50 UAH.

Even more budget travellers take a bus from the airport to the metro station Kharkhovska for 20 UAH, from where it's only 1.7 UAH (?) to any other metro stations in town. It's faster to get downtown this way, too.

for the less experienced travellers in FSU, just beware the old "dropped money" scam is increasing in Kyiv.

Take particular care in Vul.SOFIIVSKA.

Three times there this week a (different)guy has dropped, or found a bag of money right in front of me. Do NOT stop, get involved in conversation, just carry straight on. It is a very old trap.

[QUOTE=Mellowtrax]

Kiev report – 2-5 September 2010[/QUOTE]Mellowtrax,

I've enjoyed reading your reports from Kiev, I've not been to Kiev yet, but it sounds like lots for fun, I'll like to go there. How much is the flight cost from CPH?

As you know I like the German FKK scene a lot, so it would be nice to try something different.

Nille

I've been using Mamba very intensively for about a week now and have to admit, I'm already getting a bit tired of it.

I've written around 150 messages in the past 7 days, using different ways of approach: 1/3 of my messages were casual-flirting (how do you do? what do you study?), 1/3 of my messages did imply sponsorship/intimate contact by inviting girls to a night out and staying in my apartment, and 1/3 were the direct approach, talking about details in my first mail (how much? what service?).

70% of my messages go unread/unanswered so far, 10% are denied in a friendly way, 10% are denied in an unfriendly way (I was told to go to the woods one time ;)), and 10% are answered in a way that these contacts may lead to something. I have some pretty girls now that offer P4P, some that are willing to meet me on a sponsor basis, and even one or two that might be future relationships.

But 150 messages for a (theoretical) outcome of max. 5 P4P and 5 freebies, is a lot of work.

Especially because you have to go through endless lists of fakes and agency pictures after searching for sponsorships.

And especially because I realized after the very first day, that 98% of the Mamba girls don't unterstand a single word of English even if they tell you so on your profile. And Google Translator can be tricky to use when you need to get some sense out of it.

I guess it's more practical to look for girls when in Kyiv.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen]Mellowtrax,

I've enjoyed reading your reports from Kiev, I've not been to Kiev yet, but it sounds like lots for fun, I'll like to go there. How much is the flight cost from CPH?

As you know I like the German FKK scene a lot, so it would be nice to try something different.

Nille[/QUOTE]Hi Nille,

I actually wanted to go to Russia, but ended up with Ukraine for two reasons: It’s much cheaper and you don’t need a visa to go there. Tickets from Copenhagen to Kiev are about 300 USD with SAS (non stop). Tickets from Air Baltic are cheaper, but also include a stopover in Riga.

I know you like the German FKK scene, especially Villa Vertigo. When I visited the place I saw a lot of girls from Slavic countries (Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine and other FSU countries), so if you like Slavic looking girls Kiev one of the places to go.

I recommend you to try the Kiev scene. With a positive attitude and good preparations you will not be disappointed.

Mellow

[QUOTE=Mellowtrax]I actually wanted to go to Russia, but ended up with Ukraine for two reasons: It’s much cheaper and you don’t need a visa to go there. Tickets from Copenhagen to Kiev are about 300 USD with SAS (non stop). Tickets from Air Baltic are cheaper, but also.

Mellow[/QUOTE]Hej Mellow,

I don't know when I can go to Kiev, I'm go to Artemis in Berlin later this month.

I don't speak Russian, so I might team up with you.

I'll PM you at Hedomax. Take care.

Nille