Black & White : Av Paris 634, Bonsucesso
Heard the name Black and White a number of times so I finally decided to take the trip up to the bad side of town, which is Zona Norte. If you follow Av Brasil from centro it will pretty much take you directly to the door. The suburb is just before the airport. Now I am sure all of you guys remember how seedy the area is when you come from the airport, favela after favela. Well that is Bonsucesso. The area is very poor, surrounded by favelas and you should be careful while out there.
I arrived by Metro, got off at Maria da Graça and hopped a cab for R$10. It was about 9pm and the surrounding areas we drove through were very dead and very dodgy. When I arrived at the club outside I was impressed. Kind of like an osasis in the middle of very drab buildings, deadly quiet as well. Go inside and pay $R10 upfront, explained that it gets you 2 beers, domestic of course. Grabbed a beer and sat down. The club is nicely appointed, probably nicer than most of the tier 2 termas in centro. There were maybe 30 guys drinking beers and maybe 10 girls. The girls were of the large bunda variety which is very popular with the local Brazilian guys. Doubt this place would see many gringos.
People were smoking freely, which is is now prohibited in all inside establishments and annoying to me, a non smoker! Didn't see any maybe-doable girls, saw a 6, maybe. Also saw 2 x 2's, they were walking arm in arm and could barely walk down the large ailse without their huge butts knocking stuff over. As they left through the door, single file of course, they could just squeeze thru without turning sideways. I sat and finished a couple of beers, quietly enjoying my time out in Zona Norte. Then left on foot.
As I left the club I turned right, I walked along Av Paris about 200 yards and hit Av Brasil. The main road back into town. I watched what was written on the buses to confirm I was on the correct side of the road (the same side of the club) and then jumped a bus and was back in Centro in about 20 minutes.
Really enjoyed finally seeing this club, don't know that you would find really hot women out here but for R$100 for the hour (fixed price) worth a visit if you happen to be out there. Would not go out there alone if you are new to Rio unless you took a taxi to and from the club. Would I go back? Probably not unless I happened to be in the area, just too far and would be too hard to find a decent chic. However worthwhile experience.
Thanks for that detailed response.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1181255]If you stick with the Copa termas you will have no problem, as they are used to dealing with people who speak no Porto. Remember since it's P4P, in most places they are well motivated to understand you and close the deal. You can do charades, draw hieroglyphics, whatever. Improvise and it will work. The girls will fuck anything with a swinging dick and a pulse, so no skills are needed.
There are numerous podcasts on the web, such as.
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That allow you to hear a transaction taking place. Some guys here like to chat up the girls before sex, but it's not required to get a good session. Some of my best sessions have been preceded by nothing more than a smile and a 'Vamos! ' So stay where you see other gringos, and don't worry too much.
I would avoid Centro places until you know some transactional Porto and have some interviewing skills including sex terms. Otherwise you might not get what you are wanting. Since you've only traveled English speaking countries it's probably best to stay near the tourist areas until you get a feel for the culture. In Rio there is no safety net, so to speak, unlike in NYC or the English speaking countries. Steer clear of police and sexpats. This goes for almost anywhere below the 30 N parallel, in my experience. Various people here have used Don and he has good reports.[/QUOTE]If I did want to chat it up a bit with the girls some, check out the merchandise with a feel here and a slight grope or kiss there as they say, would I be able to just flirt with little English and get away with it? I envision going in and possibly doing two sessions there while recuperation at the bar or couch while I meet some new girls. From what I read, if you make eye contact they get the hint and will come to you to flirt. And from what it sounds like, they define flirting as kissing deeply, rubbing you, you groping them anything shy of the full deal. Am I way off on this?
I am just trying to mentally prepare for what I am getting myself into.
I think I will have guide (Don or whoever) take me into the dark and dirty areas as I really do want to experience that as well. I live to the adventure and normally at 6'3 275lbs I am not concerned about being in a city that may be shady, however the language barrier changes the whole thing. I don't know if they want the time or my watch! .
Also, from what I read, it seems that the girls are good about photos for the most part. Is there a technique to this procedure? How does the establishment look on it?
And a last question, that I have hesitated to ask due to the taboo around it. I have smoked herb almost daily for the last 10 yrs, I am not asking WHERE to get it, just if it is seen around Rio?
Thanks for such great advice! Looking forward to the answers.