[QUOTE=Goldmember33;1123222]Hey lucky I will meet you at soi 6 corner bar at 10 tomorrow tues the 15th k.[/QUOTE]I think Saigon Girls, Sexy in the city have nice girls on Soi 6
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[QUOTE=Goldmember33;1123222]Hey lucky I will meet you at soi 6 corner bar at 10 tomorrow tues the 15th k.[/QUOTE]I think Saigon Girls, Sexy in the city have nice girls on Soi 6
am busy this trip so not reporting as i did last time. anyway, phew thoughts.
last summer want to that place across from the gokarts. cheap experienced gals there. three days ago returned. it was figure 8:pm and rather dark. went to the gokart place. made the right turn. street completely dark. no lights at all. five dogs were barking at me. walked further. about 4 more dogs in the distance. screw this. yes i like adventure, but my idea of adventure is not getting attacked by a pack of dogs in some dark street. walked around to the other side of the street. saw a few people moving but there were no lights at all. walking up. thinking to myself, is this the last day of my life? have i rocks in my head? turned 'round. screw this.
yesterday was strange. had my breakfast of champions, coffee and 3 eggs. first time since i arrived (january 28) was raining and hard. very hard. so, am eating my eggs and suddenly bang! fire! place across the street the electronic sign exploded. caught on fire. people in my restaurant were concerned. waiter took fire extinguisher and put out the flames. raining still hard. fire out. few minutes later again bang! same spot. second fire. these buildings are made like paper, and under correct conditions i could see a fire destroying everything in site and quick. still i was across the street. more amused than anything. and if an all out massive fire broke out, i would heroically run away in the opposite direction as fast as humanly possible.
since it was raining hard, decided to do the massage / movie thing. walked to near golden girls. gal there grabbed me and wanted to do the $200 baht oil massage. slight older. nice bubble butt. ok. soon came the playing with little popper. she offered the bbbj for $500. ok. she wanted me to come, but little popper was in full form. have read about [i]"holding" it a bit longer, [/i]and it works. pretty much anyway. the bj turned to a hj which always makes me weary since sometimes these gals scratches and scrapes little popper. however, there was lots of oil and an overall nice job. when leaving she offered me her asss, not in the mp but only in a real hotel for the next time. damn her butt would be nice. should have gotten her cell. my fault. may get later.
still raining. time was figure 3:30. on that street was nevada and far east asia gogo. recall nevada was north of the street, but could be wrong. anyway, went to the gogo which was to the north. ordered a cup of coffee. this was the first time i entered a gogo / bar beer this trip and first time i ordered a drink in these places. often eat breakfast which includes three eggs and coffee for 60 baht. here in a gogo coffee alone was 80 baht. whatever. one gal on stage and bunch of old fat farangs watching her. lame. very lame. getting my bearings and all, and decided to watch a movie at the new theater. walked north on second and while near kiss me diner on soi diana this truck scrapped this awning and drove off. terrible loud noise. looking carefully this awning was way too low and far out, and it looked like many trucks scrapped this awning a lot. funny how they do not care.
made it to the theater and decided on gilliver's travel. for the first time this trip went to sizzler and ordered their salad bar for about 160 baht and did bit of work. silly movie. went back walking street and saw this uzbec, would say she slightly below average. however, these russian / uzi gals are often frigging stunning. i mean like fluck me the average looking gal is near gorgeous and models are stunnnnnners. could someone please tell me why these gals are all stunning while american women look comparatively like sh*t? anyway, we spoke, or as much as we could since her enguishie was near non-existent. she wanted 4000 baht for an hour. ummmm. i would need an absolute model for that, and even then would pass. 4000 baht i could get close to 7 gals st, so she would have to be incredible beyond words. granted many of these women are!
was evening and went to lucifers. w / in few minutes found cutie. she 24 and nice all around. looked natural as can be. shocked when she said she had two kids, one being seven years. asked and she said 500 baht and off we went. we were having so much fun in the sack was considering her for long time. little popper for some reason was in full form, and she had three os. was really into it, and she a lot of fun. her cell went and it her english bf who called and wanted her. guess he wanted sloppy seconds and to taste popper's come when kissing her. got her cell number.
damn i hate pattaya.
--popper
[QUOTE=Popper1;1123797]Last summer want to that place across from the GoKarts. Cheap experienced gals there. Three days ago returned.[/QUOTE]I met a girl in Tukcom the other day. I was buying a set of earphones and she was getting music on her phone. She was with a gay / not-quite-ladyboy-yet guy. She doesn't speak much English but has been calling me the last few days. So today we decided to meet up back at Tukcom at 1pm and go bowling from there. Why did she bring the guy with her. Then when I told her that we will go alone just us two she didn't want to. So I bid her adieu. No free lunches here pal. Especially for someone I have 0% chance of relations with.
So I headed over to Beach Road. I walked between Central Festival and Royal Garden. It was really too early. I only saw 1 that I would have done, but she would not come down from 500 to my 300 offering price. So I went to try my luck at the GoKart place.
There were a few chicks sitting on a mat across and up from the normal spot. I pointed to the best one according to my standards. (She was decent enough that I even considered bringing her back to my place - then I woke up.) She hopped on the back of my motorbike and we went down to the shacks. Started off with BBBJ, went to mish, then doggy. I didn't plan on sweating my ass off in there all day so I started jacking off in her mouth while she sat up. I wanted to get it in her mouth and on the outside but she was persistent about not wasting a drop. No negotiations. Just gave her 200 baht after the deed. Kept hitting my head on the damn ceiling every time I stood up though. Next time I might try to get away with giving 100 baht and see where that gets me.
After reading what follows, you might get the impression that I'm a rude, morbidly obese prick who deserves to be treated like crap. See, if that were the case then I wouldn't be complaining. In reality, I'm a good natured, respectful, friendly young guy in good shape. But for some reason, my stay in Pattaya has been a nightmare so far. The girls treat me like utter crap. Did I just get extremely unlucky multiple times in a row, or am I really missing something here: how often does stuff like this happen to people?
Night 1: took a somewhat brisk walk through Soi 6 and 7, without really going into any places to be honest, but didn't really see any girls hotter than maybe 7, and that's in the dark with makeup, so that means 6 in the morning. Outcome: slightly disappointed, but confident I'll find an 8 or 9 with a bit more effort the next day.
Night 2: this was Valentines, so I put in a valiant effort and went to a ton of places on Soi 6 and Walking Street. Saw an 8 (finally) in Alcatraz who wanted 5, 000 for LT + 1, 000 barfine. What! Moved on to other places and saw about four 8s or a bit better, but all were with their bf's. I very politely asked just in case, and just gave the guys a high five after and moved on. Where are they getting these girls. They're hotter than any other ones I've seen here before or since (except maybe the next one). On to the main event: finally ran into a 9, possibly the hottest chick I've seen so far. She wanted 2, 000 LT, which I think is double the usual amount (correct?) , but since she was a freelancer on Walking and there is no barfine, and also because she agreed to 1, 500 I said ok. She wanted to eat first, so even though I wasn't hungry I did the polite thing and said sure why not. We ate and had a nice chat, but she complained about the 1, 500 over and over, so I said 2, 000 is fine, whatever. She was worth it. I paid for the food and we walked off, but she kept trying to walk in front of me or walk too fast, so I said hey, slow down, because she was already 3 feet in front of me. I guess she got upset because I was a bit loud, although obviously you can't exactly whisper from 3 feet away, and the way she walked (not with me but in front of me) came off as really arrogant. So she decided to test me by walking even faster and waking me to follow, and of course I said screw it: thats so disrespectful. I thought Thai women were polite? I went in the other direction, but then realized its 2am Valentines and I'm about to sleep alone because of a childish argument, so I waited by her scooter and she showed up 3 minutes later apologizing and saying she had to use the toilet. Complete bs, but whatever. She said she knew I'd wait and that she won't be disrespectful again, so I let it go. We went off to 7/11 to get some ice cream, and she told (not asked, but ordered) me to pay. I laughed and I said sorry no, its very cheap and you should pay to say sorry for before, and I already agreed to give you extra 500 and paid 400 for food, so its the least you can do. She agreed, paid the counter, but when we got outside said she's leaving. I thought she was kidding and said yeah go, and she walked off. I was shocked. I've never had a women walk off on me (and that's in America) , and she just did it twice! I waited by the scooter for 10 min but nothing. Normally I wouldn't have waited because I hate disrespectful chicks who think they can walk all over men, but this was already my 2nd day and still no play, so I eased up a bit and called her because she geve me the number earlier. She apologized profusely again, said shell call me back in 10 minutes, and (to my surprise at this point) called back saying sorry she can't make it tonight because she has to be back home by 5 to take care of her baby). Sounds like bs, but I called her again the next day and said come to my nice 4 star hotel, we can swim in the pool and have a nice time and she hung up. Wow just wow. This was my worst / weirdest experience with a chick to date as I normally show respect and get it, and she was just fvcking with me. But if you think thugs bad, just wait and read on. Outcome: extremely disappointed, but realizing there is a God and even the unlucky eventually must get lucky, so decided to head out again next night.
Night 3: lucked out and found a 9 in a go go on Soi 8. Gorgeous, but absolutely zero English. Doesn't even understand "what's your name" and "how much barfine." Mamasan had to translate that its 680 barfine (when I walked in before she lied and said 380) and 3, 000 to the girl. Holy crap 3000, and zero English or experience. I said I'll think about it and after going to Walking and finding nothing, figured whist the hell I'll bite the bullet and finally have some fun. Returned but she was gone: asked if I should come back tomorrow, but mamasan says the girl is very new and doesn't go with customers yet. Goddammit. Really tired by now and decide to give Soi 6 a final shot before giving up. Luck out (or so I thought!) and find a girl close to 8 at the first go go, and barfine her for 400 and 1500 LT. She turned out to be barely a 7 the next morning, but the kicker is that she's absolutely, as in wildly and dangerously crazy! Fuck I'm almost scared to go outside now haha. It started off innocently enough after we left the bar and went to get some food. I ate by the beach, as she wasn't hungry. I was really exhausted by now, so when I finished I asked her to please take my tray to the garbage can nearby. To my surprise, she refused. Never happened in America. What happened to Thai girls being nicer? She kept refusing, so I tried to explain that if she takes care of me I'll take care of her, and that if next time she's the one who's tired I'll herbage her food for her. No go. Didn't want to let the point go, so we went at it (in a somewhat playful but persistent way) for 2-3 mins. Finally she said she's going to leave. Wow, over this? I wasn't even rude or loud or mean about it. I really asked politely and respectfully. No go. Remembering last nights experience, I gave in and went myself. Felt like an ass. To my shock, she hailed a motorbike and got on, and insisted I apologize. Three days now and no play, so I said sorry and we left together. The sex was decent. Gave a good BBBJ, but she was really loose and despite not having had sex in a week it took me a while to cum. She refused to give up the ass, even for double price. Now, this is when things go to nightmare level. We woke up late (3pm) and she started bitching really loud, why that she had to be at work at 3 and for me to pay 600 barfine. I politely declined because I only bar fined her 12 hours prior and we only did it once, so she completely lost it and started screaming. I figured screw this: better to pay another 600 and get laid again, than to not get laid and get screamed at. Gave her the 600 and she calmed down and apologized. We were ready to go at it when I politely asked her to turn off the tv because I have a headache, and she went nuts, as in absolutely nuuuttsss. Started screaming off the top of her lungs that its up to her, so loud that honestly I was scared shitless even though I'm probably twice her size. I honestly thought she was about to knife me. Honestly I've seen crazy women before, but this was just something else. Took 10 minutes to calm down and 20 to get over it, but said she wants her "1500 NOW" and she's leaving. I figured ok good. I'm scared half to death by now and want her gone. Went to the bank machine and got her street food and cold medicine in the way because I don't want to feet a bad name in town, even if she is nuts. Came back, she thanked me for the food and caught syrup and left her number on the desk. I figured I'd ask if we can still do it (after all she's still on my bed and sex with a crazy chick is better than no sex) and she said ok but for another 500. Spent 5 minutes trying to convince her that since we only had sex once, and I already paid for long time plus 2 barfines and spent 200 on her food and medicine, I shouldn't have to pay again, but no go (no its 5pm and you have to pay). Fine. I just want to screw and never see her again. Started foreplay and she reached for her own condoms, which I specifically told her the day before I don't like because I don't trust local brands (left this part out) and buy Durex. Now I honestly said this in the nicest way possible with "please," a smile, and the works. She LOST it. Started screaming loud enough for people 3 floors up to hear, threw her purse on the floor, the condoms too, ripped them in front of my face, ripped her number, started hitting the bed with her fists and screaming in Thai. Holy, hooolyyyy crap. I haven't seen crazy like this even in movies, even on Jerry Springer. Wow, man I'm a tall and fit guy but honestly I was scared and told her I'm going to call security. She started calling her boss and said screaming about police, so I just gave her that last 500 that was for the sex we never had and kicked her out. Wow wow wow. No words, just no words guys.
Tonight is Night 4. Should I really bother even leaving the hotel at this point? I was going to stay for weeks, but I just had 3 worst days of my life, one worse than the next, and I don't know if I want to find out if it can get any worse.
Night 2:
LOL I think a username change is in order.
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123930]LOL I think a username change is in order.[/QUOTE]LOL. That's exactly what I'm thinking!
Just a advice : better to BF a 7 without attitude than searching for a 9 with a superstar attitude.
Sex is far better also. IMHO
cheaper and better...what else u need ?
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1123952]LOL. That's exactly what I'm thinking!
Just a advice : better to BF a 7 without attitude than searching for a 9 with a superstar attitude.
Sex is far better also. IMHO.
Cheaper and better. What else you need? [/QUOTE]Honestly, I'd rather stay in America than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. You don't have to leave your home country to do that LOL.
I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123962]I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.[/QUOTE]When you break it down like that I'd have to agree with you.
What is even more mind boggling is that guys spend $120 / night in hotel in Pat only to bring take a girl back who is a 4-6. Why not switch it around? Stay in a cheaper place and spend the rest on a 8 or 9?
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123956]Honestly, I'd rather stay in America than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. You don't have to leave your home country to do that LOL.[/QUOTE]All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.
The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.
Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another.
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123962]I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.[/QUOTE]You're exactly right Lukey, the rational for travel to Thailand is nothing compared to what it was years ago as prices have come down in the USA and rocketed upwards in Thailand, and perhaps more importantly as quality has plummeted in the LOS. Its all the process of development. Just follow what happened in Korea over the last decades, or Japan long before that. Our days of fun in this country are essentially drawing to a close right now.
Your report about the rude girls sounded familiar to me. Not that the girls I engage are ever rude to me (I speak Thai a bit, am 'localized', and only deal with 5s or 6s) , but I have often witnessed girls speaking incredibly rudely and disrespectfully to their farang victims. I could never put up with that.
Lucky Lukey, just remember Pattaya is a buyer's market.
As soon as a girl shows attitude, or a compulsion to control proceedings, just calmly and politely decline her company and move on.
I would much rather waste a barfine, than humour an arrogant hooker.
As for the screamer. What a nutjob!
I've had a couple of close shaves with these types, but have managed to pick-up on the signs and ditched them before getting to the room.
Don't give up, you've just been unlucky.
Remember to be polite and friendly, but most importantly remember YOU are in control.
I agree totally with mouse 1. If you get the bad vibe early abandon ship quickly and look elsewhere their are plenty out there if your willing to compromise alittle. My suggestion to lucky is to talk to the mammasans first for what you are looking for and expect and she will point you in the right direction out of the girls she has working. Even buy her a drink to get on her good side. This way if there is more problems maybe she will rectify the problem with the recommended girl. Remember the gogo girls do have to answer the mamasan.
Good luck the rest of your trip Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1123971]When you break it down like that I'd have to agree with you.
What is even more mind boggling is that guys spend $120 / night in hotel in Pat only to bring take a girl back who is a 4-6. Why not switch it around? Stay in a cheaper place and spend the rest on a 8 or 9? [/QUOTE]Insane, man. I see some decent looking dudes paying for girls who are uglier than ones they could get at home for free, and without having to pay for hotel, flight, etc. Insane, just insane.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1123988]All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.
The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.
Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another. [/QUOTE]Thanks, good advice man.