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Back in March I wrote asking for advice comparing Rio and several Asian destinations, and got some great responses on the forum here (I reposted them on the What Country has the Best Women for STR? Forum). I ended going to Jakarta, Macau, and Pattaya (reports on those forums). Thanks for all the advice, and I hope I do get to Rio eventually.
Cheers,
IB
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1181959]I've been going to 4 X 4 for ever and have always enjoyed the services of many of the providers there. I've never, ever had a performer as bad as this Jacky / Jackie. I won't go into the details, but I can tell you this for sure: She is a clock watcher, too much teeth when blowing and will try every excuse to cut your session short, to include faking a door knock like she tried on me. I've been with 100's of girls there and never had someone do some crap like this, just deceitful, and awful; she is a just there for the money piece of work. I will post pictures of this beauty when I get a chance, unfortunately I had no face shots. Of course, I let the owners and the manager know about her right away. She is mulata, about 5'2", black middle of the back hair straight black, body builder / fitness model type. She is dynamic in the boite, but in the room YMMV, but I'm letting you know upfront, she is just awful, thinks she is smarter then you, dishonest, and in it for the money. Avoid her at all costs.[/QUOTE]Man that sucks. Caveat emptor and all that. I've had several experiences. On and off. Like that, and I will (like you did) roundly tell management and the other girls.
Last night I finally reconnected with Dominique the little blonde spinner at MC. But she was really really drunk and as a result the session was poor. Not as poor as yours but enough that I was ready to leave early before the time was up. Not ideal.
First place visited on my third trip to Rio, after reading all the recommendations. This is my first report on ISG as I don't go around much but hope to write more.
Got to the place around 7 and the boate was about 25 guys to 10 girls. After about 10 minutes, saw one to my liking. A tall morena who called herself Mel. Speaks a bit of English but not too much. She says she know spanish and worked in Luomos in 2008. Has small paw print tattoos in the right, lower back area. She is not on the skinny side, which I don't mind at all.
A pretty face, great ass (unfortunately not on offer, from what I understood but then again I barely know any portuguese) , suckable lips and a good rack. She said she had silicone but it must have been a good job as it didn't look like it. We had a few drinks (she took a Smirnoff Ice and then a Red Bull). I am not much of a talker and once she started massaging her breasts in the boate with my hands and sticking her tongue in my mouth, I decided to take her and stop providing entertainment to the locals. The $240 quote gave me pause but I thought may be it was for a suite and if it was good, then it was ok. She left me in the room to change into a leopard print dress and get her kit while I showered.
Started off with DATY and she rather likes it, I must say. Her BBBJ is of the OK variety, not the suck-it-like-there-is-no-tomorrow one I like. Tried missionary and finished in doggy. Good sex, though she makes so much fake noises during the deed that it was a bit of a turn off. Should learn how to say 'I am here to get pleasure, not to give pleasure' in portuguese. That I was jetlagged and started yawning on the way to Centro didn't help either. Once I cleaned up, she asked for DATY again or rather ordered me to. I was happy to oblige. Once she was done, took another shower and decided to go home and sleep off the jetlag rather than stick around for more drinks. One more thing I noted was that even though I fall in to the normal girth & length category, all of the girls seem to think it is biggee / grande. Either established research is wrong or all the working girls in Brazil like to lie so that the guy feels better.
I would give her a cautious 8 and will probably repeat sometime soon. Didn't ask for pictures but will do so next time.
Took the 60 mins option and was charged R$240 for it and I assumed it was ok because it was a suite. I didn't mind because I just wanted to get it off, though I would like to know how to get the 160 option for 1 hours.
On the facilities : The room I was clean but the towel was not, quite a few big brown spots. The facilities seem to be aging and in need of a revamp.
The boate is nothing to write home about, a rectangle with 1 pole near the bar where a few girls were sitting and a lot of guys popping in after work. I made a point to sit in the whiskeria for some time before going upstairs, on the other side of the boate. It was better lit but felt it was too quiet for a pay-day, Friday evening. About half the tables were empty at 1930.
Note : The lady cashier asks for tips to round of the bill, dunno if it was because I was a foreigner or looked gullible. Most probably the second one.
Next mission : to find a spinner who likes it up her ass in 4x4 next week to see if I like anal. Any recommendations very welcome!
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus; 1182162]First place visited on my third trip to Rio, after reading all the recommendations. This is my first report on ISG as I don't go around much but hope to write more.
Got to the place around 7 and the boate was about 25 guys to 10 girls. After about 10 minutes, saw one to my liking. A tall morena who called herself Mel. Speaks a bit of English but not too much. She says she know spanish and worked in Luomos in 2008. Has small paw print tattoos in the right, lower back area. She is not on the skinny side, which I don't mind at all![/QUOTE]Mel (honey in Portuguese) has been around for what seems like forever. I run into her from time to time in Copa or in one of the Termas. Pleasant enough, but I would rate her a hard-core GDP. My advice on your visit to 4x4 is that you hang back a bit I and check out a few girls. Without speaking Portuguese it may be difficult to conduct an interview, but try to look for girls who are not aggressive. The receptionists speak English and they have heard much worse than "Do you know of a small thin girl here who likes anal?"
Also, most of us here don't mind helping polite newbies who treat women with respect. If you see a gringo who knows his way around, introduce yourself and tell him you are new. We were all in your shoes at one point.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1182201]Mel (honey in Portuguese) .[/QUOTE]Which is why "melado" is used to mean "sticky." Pretty awesome. I like molhado and melado.
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus; 1182162]Note : The lady cashier asks for tips to round of the bill, dunno if it was because I was a foreigner or looked gullible. Most probably the second one.
Next mission : to find a spinner who likes it up her ass in 4x4 next week to see if I like anal. Any recommendations very welcome![/QUOTE]She always does that to Gringos. It's super annoying. I laugh and tell her to ask the brasilians. I also ask her why nobody gives me a tip after I spend 12 hours at work in my office. Grr. On the other hand, I always tip the fat security guy outside in exchange for the sketches he makes on the back of the 502 entrada cards. They're pretty cool.
BA85 was open today after all. It didn't seem as crowded today as it had yesterday evening when I was walking back from Termas 502. But the stairs, the stairs, THE STAIRS! I read as many reports as much I could find with the search function but NOTHING prepared me for the stairs. Music was being blasted as I looked up at the dirt-of-many-feet-over-many-years steps. Before I go any further, I bow to anyone who has ascended without making use of the handrails. The first level had a lot of chicks with one looking over the landing. She was cute, I smiled and kept going. The music was from the second floor, had a couple of guys and chicks standing. The chicks looked nice but having read the warnings to stay off the second floor (and speaking next-to-nothing portugues) , I decided to keep going up. Me poor heart had a good workout by the time I reached the top floor. The place had some funk playing and about 5-6 girls and a coroa-type. A shirtless young one gave a steely smile. After I sat down with a beer, she came and sat next to me and started asking questions. I must have looked really out of place.
Her name was Mel too. There was a dark-skinned, big ass girl walking about but she just went in with a guy as I sat down.
I had two choices : pretend I am deaf-mute or own up. I owned up that I am not a native and this seemed to interest Mel, Jessica with the Playboy bunny tatto and Diana, the dark, very lean one who was grinding on the guy who left with the big-bunda one.
I appreciate the fact that they didn't try to stick it to me. Rates were written on a paper, same as reported :
R$30 for 15 mins, R$40 for 20 and R$60 for 30. When the music stopped playing, they asked for my choice and were smiling when I told 'Funk'. I wish I could have asked them about football and wonder how that conversation would have gone.
I decided to take Jessica to the room instead of Mel, who looked slightly high and quite young. A mistake. Jessica was pleasant enough but was more interested in the music that the deed, which was a turn off. To my relief, she started with a CBJ which was ok with me (I wasn't feeling adventurous in BA85). I would have happily walked out and bought her a drink if she had said 'No, I don't want to do this' but I couldn't make her understand my question. I tried to finish as quickly as possible as I didn't feel happy doing it with someone who is disinterested and that had a deflationary effect on Maximus. Such a nice body.
As I left the room, she of the big bunda, walking to the lockers in the end, grabbed my hand. I told amanha and went to get a beer. I asked Jessica if she wanted anything and bought her a Coke before leaving. She has a sweet smile. *sigh*
Seems like all drinks are a flat R$5. Makes it easy for the accounting I guess. Diana looked forlorn and Mel was nowhere to be seen as I left, asking myself 'should I try the first floor next week or should I wait until I have learnt conversational portugues well? ' and then I saw a lady / girl with HUGE tits talking to an old guy in the first floor landing. I will go back next week.
I had wanted to walk down R. Uruguaiana and do a recce of 210 for next week but managed to grip a landing while making way for a guy going up. I decided to get home and take a good long bath and get back to Centro for a walk about.
Let's see what happens in Balcony tonight.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1182201]Mel (honey in Portuguese) has been around for what seems like forever. I run into her from time to time in Copa or in one of the Termas. Pleasant enough, but I would rate her a hard-core GDP. My advice on your visit to 4x4 is that you hang back a bit I and check out a few girls. Without speaking Portuguese it may be difficult to conduct an interview, but try to look for girls who are not aggressive. The receptionists speak English and they have heard much worse than "Do you know of a small thin girl here who likes anal?"
Also, most of us here don't mind helping polite newbies who treat women with respect. If you see a gringo who knows his way around, introduce yourself and tell him you are new. We were all in your shoes at one point.[/QUOTE]Thanks Exec Talent, reminds me of a dialogue from the Tailor of Panama :
Andy, looking a chica with an old man : I could fuck that very easily. Wouldn't be any pain at all.
Harry : A lot have, Andy. A lot wish they had who haven't. And one or two have who wish they hadn't.
Though with Mel, I wouldn't mind a repeat. She is hard-core but pleasant so I don't mind being rushed into a session as the goods are definitely there. I will definitely try what you said in 4x4 next week, though wouldn't ask it that way.
Thanks again for the tip!
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1182234]She always does that to Gringos. It's super annoying. I laugh and tell her to ask the brasilians. I also ask her why nobody gives me a tip after I spend 12 hours at work in my office. Grr. On the other hand, I always tip the fat security guy outside in exchange for the sketches he makes on the back of the 502 entrada cards. They're pretty cool.[/QUOTE]I almost told her that I was fucking Mel not her and in such a case, she would have to pay me. Not that she would have understood. But I remembered the fact that most of the troubles in my life came from saying things like this, so I did my rabbit-in-headlights impression.
Didn't know the bouncer was the artistic type, may be I will buy him a beer and / or a cigarette with a tip and ask him for a sketch to keep as a reminder of the good times in Rio. I will try Google Translate or resort to wild gesticulation.
Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus;1182162]Next mission : to find a spinner who likes it up her ass in 4x4 next week to see if I like anal. Any recommendations very welcome![/QUOTE]If she's your type, you might try Bruna (she's not thin, but she definitely likes it up her asshole!) :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1170961#post1170961[/url]
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus; 1182141]Kind & noble sirs,
I would like to get down & dirty today at the above-mentioned fine establishment in Centro. However, having searched around in the forum, I am not able to get the operating hours on Saturdays. I remember vaguely having read that it is 12-6PM but unable to locate that report. An answer would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]All the floors except the last one closes before 3-4pm on Saturday.
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus;1182162]One more thing I noted was that even though I fall in to the normal girth & length category, all of the girls seem to think it is biggee / grande. Either established research is wrong or all the working girls in Brazil like to lie so that the guy feels better.[/QUOTE]Not just Brazil; WGs all over the world do this. I guess they think it will inflate the guy's ego and induce him to be more generous.
[QUOTE=Dimension;1182268]All the floors except the last one closes before 3-4pm on Saturday.[/QUOTE]Is that the only spot that is open in Centro on Saturdays? I thought all the centro spots were closed on the weekends.
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus; 1182162]On the facilities : The room I was clean but the towel was not, quite a few big brown spots. The facilities seem to be aging and in need of a revamp.
The boate is nothing to write home about, a rectangle with 1 pole near the bar where a few girls were sitting and a lot of guys popping in after work. I made a point to sit in the whiskeria for some time before going upstairs, on the other side of the boate. It was better lit but felt it was too quiet for a pay-day, Friday evening. About half the tables were empty at 1930.[/QUOTE]2 points:
1) 502 could be so much better if they would just spend some money and fix up the facilities a bit. BubbaBoy and I were joking they should just buy a couple sets of new sheets for the rooms and it would be 50% better. Doubt it will happen though.
2) Pay-day in Brasil is typically 5th of every month. So you actually caught it on the last Friday before pay-day. Meaning by this point in the month most 502 punters have blown all their disposable cash and have none left until 5th August (what with rent being due on 1st and all). It's quiet because it's winter, and then on top of that most of their usual customers have no reserves at this point in the month.
[QUOTE=Erectus Indicus;1182249]BA85 was open today after all. It didn't seem as crowded today as it had yesterday evening when I was walking back from Termas 502. But the stairs, the stairs, THE STAIRS! I read as many reports as much I could find with the search function but NOTHING prepared me for the stairs. Music was being blasted as I looked up at the dirt-of-many-feet-over-many-years steps. Before I go any further, I bow to anyone who has ascended without making use of the handrails.[/QUOTE]
Nice reports.
When using the stairs at BA85 avoid touching the handrails. They are really nasty. Sticky of sweat, cum and lube.
Another advice is don't try to descend the stairs quickly wearing wet Havaianas.
P.S Imagine a fire in BA85 and everybody heading for the stairs.....