Seeking Arrangements

Thanks for all the insights guys. Elvis, you mention two in person fails were GPS. I always discuss price ahead of the date for this very reason. I don't want to get to a date and find out she has GPS. So my fail rate is by definition lower because I vet that up front. I have made exceptions a couple times when a newbie said "you can give me what you think is fair" but other than that I always settle price before the date.

You do make a good point that sex with an amateur Seeking girl is not as good as with a pro. This surely is expected. But to me an important point is they can be quickly coached up. Like my most recent girl G a year ago when we met apologized after our first bed session saying "I'm sorry I'm not that good at blowjobs". Well after showing her BLS and harmonica she was fucking great. And now I'the say top five all time. She looooved to suck dick but didn't know how.

Same with new girl D. She'the only been with three guys including me. And the others were teen / college kids. Within 3 dates her BJ went from a four to an eight with a bit of coaching. And she hit 9 territory last date.

It's also sooooo much fun to give a girl excellent DATY and her first DATY orgasm, after having only rank amateurs downstairs in the past. The look they get and the things they say about it are just priceless.

So yeah. I remain a big fan. I think people think I don't talk about my fails, but that is not true. I simply haven't had many in recent years. Starting out I did. That's when I started to analyze the fails and the reasons for them. And started to make rules like no lunch dates. And no coffee dates. Dinner and drinks and take it too the bedroom the same night is the only recipe for me. I also got quite into Japanese nampa forums (basically POA stuff) and got so much better at the bounce, kino, and push pull.

I think my last fails were two years ago; both in dallas. One was a straight up scam where I got to the restaurant and she said her mom needed meds and I needed to pay for them. Biatch! Fortunately I had a fat girl on the back burner and we were fucking two hours later after dinner. (And fat girls really do try harder! And her BJ needed zero coaching) And another also in dallas where we vibed soooo hard by text and then like an hour before the meetup her aunt was in a horrible accident in Louisiana and she had to drive out there. Never figured the angle on that one. But they do happen. Just rarely.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3051604] also got quite into Japanese nampa forums (basically POA stuff) and got so much better at the bounce, kino, and push pull. [/QUOTE]Can you elaborate on this Steve?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3051604]Thanks for all the insights guys. Elvis, you mention two in person fails were GPS. I always discuss price ahead of the date for this very reason. I don't want to get to a date and find out she has GPS. So my fail rate is by definition lower because I vet that up front. I have made exceptions a couple times when a newbie said "you can give me what you think is fair" but other than that I always settle price before the date.[/QUOTE]In the USA, if you did not mention price, you were never going to get a woman in bed. In Colombia, I was overwhelmed. I think that I collected like two hundred numbers before I even got there. Thing is once I was there many / most the time I reached out I was rebuffed or blown off. The five I did meet were over a two day period. I would not have recalled what if any $ numbers I brought up.

Still, you are not seen as a person on line, and the demands are often unreal as the girls are having to weed out the guys trying to get laid for free. Once they meet you and see you are real, it is different. That said, I did not intentionally avoid talking about price. It just did not come up. I wanted to take the women to bed, and they were eager to go. I would often awkwardly put money in their purse as we bid each other adieu.

A guy on here blasted me for that, and he was right to do so. By giving the women money, I was defining the relationship as john-hooker. Why do that if you really like the woman? Maybe she is into you, and that is not what she wanted. Of course, I would insist a woman take money if I wanted a john-hooker relationship.

I have gotten into huge arguments over this with the guys here, and I get where others are coming from. You are going to attract more women if you talk $ to them and you make a good point that you weed out the women with GPS when you talk $. That said, I looked back and realized the best dates I had were when money was not brought up. And for me, it got to a point where when women started talking $, it was a huge turn off. The woman was defining herself as a hooker and yes I get that things are different in the USA and maybe they are even different in Colombia now. I was fishing right before and during the pandemic where desperation on the part of women was huge.

Eventually though, I did know guys started not talking $ with women upon my uriging and were having success. So yes maybe you give up quantity of dates and have to deal with the woman with GPS, but IMO you were giving up quantity for quality. At one point, I had a woman try to give me $ back when we were through and one actually bought and paid for dinner in order to impress me on our first meet. My conditioning was such that and many guys have brought up that these women were playing the long con which turned out to be absolute bullshit. The biggest criticism I have of women / people in general is how few think long term about anything let alone relationships.

And yes, I get that when you talk price you lower the number of dates and have to deal with GPS, but the other thing is that you are devaluing yourself. There was this know it all fool on here who said that I was the best option for my woman and then in the same breath saying guys could not date or meet estrato 6/ higher class women. The funny part was that I had already met and dated such women. What he was talking about with regards to best option was money, but he stumbled onto something I have not forgotten. Yeah, I am her best option, but I wanted to tell that dumb ass he has no idea what her values are.

Yes, the generic phrasing of guys is that I am good looking, well to do, and intelligent, and the women really want me. That guys do that on a hooker site kind of cracks me up, and I get it when I am out with better looking friends that the women are more interested in them, but I know now that liking is superficial. It is a different skill set to keep women than to attract them, and those guys may be good at the former but suck at the latter. If they were good at the latter, they would not be bragging about how wanted they are. The guys good at both are actually hesitant talking about women because of their terrible breakups when their women do not fill their needs. I remember one handsome guy I worked with saying, "Man, I got too many women", and he meant it.

The point is that when you focus on money you are in essence saying, "Yeah, maybe you like the better looking or younger guy more but here is $ to make up for it. ", and you are neglecting what the women really want which is to be happy. And that is why I was able to see so many women at once and be honest about it. When one woman told me that a friend of hers objected to my seeing other people, she told her friend, "All I know is that I am happy when I am with him. Why should I care what he is doing when he is not with me?

And I guess I kind of unwittingly got to that point. All of a sudden my criteria was could I make that person happy and could she make me happy? Yes, money for her and sex for me was a part of it but it had to go beyond that for lasting happiness. You have to enjoy the other person's company because eventually the importance of the money for her and sex for you will diminish in value.

And that is where the jealous dolt gave me insight. Yes, I am my gal's best option not financially but with regards to making her happy. And THAT is the real reason her friends are jealous. They see how happy she is when I am around and how sad she is when I am not.

But what is best for you may not be best for someone else depending on where you are in your life. For me, in the beginning, just sex with someone new was good enough. Then I wanted sex that was not machine like and went to seeking. Then I wanted to have sex with women where it felt like she really cared about me. At first, if it was just a fantasy, I did not care. Hell, everyone would tell you that it was not possible for someone so much younger and so hot to really like you. But I was getting different feedback. I was seeing women really caring more for me more than the $ I brought to the table. The other and harder part was convincing myself that I had more to offer the women than just money. We American men have been badly conditioned to believe that is all women really want. So I had to know if I could make the fantasy a reality and very cautiously made the move to do so.

So for me, it was forced or expected initmacy and exclusivity with sex and marriage. Disappointment there led to sex with hookers / strangers. They got old and I wanted more initmate sex with women who were friends / acquaintances. Then I wanted to know if the person really liked me and would continue to please me sexually. And if she did, could I be happy with exclusivity by choice.

It is funny how guys who have seen hookers buck the trend. They were unhappy with conventional means to get sex and went outside of it to hookers. Then there was the move to more intimacy with SBs. Then you have guys who rejected going abroad as unsafe but those of us who did so will likely never be exclusive to the USA again. But then you run into this other and possibly last cultural wall, the culture among moners, that says do not make the fantasy a reality AKA she only likes you for your money. Well, I was ready to break through that last wall and am glad I did, but it worked only because the timing in my life was right to do so. I tried once before when my attitude was not right and got burned, and it hurt and hurt a lot.

What you think is best is where you are at in the cycle. I know Don is at the point where he is considering that exclusivity by choice is an option, but I get the hesitancy. Just because it worked for me does not mean it will work for him and like I said, I was burned the first time I tried it.

That said, I do not know if this is it. Just because it is working today does not mean it will work tomorrow. All I know is for the first time in decades I am not looking for better because I am not sure there is better. As of now, I am just wanting to keep things the same. Whether that happens for Don or anyone else, I have no idea.

Last fall I spent a few weeks in SE Asia (Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines) having never been before. Having spent a fair amount of time in the Americas and Europe, SE Asia stands out as *very* different culturally. Perhaps some of the most amazing food I've ever had. And yet, pretty weak for sugar dating.

First stop was Bangkok, where I also met our friend Steve9696 over dinner at a Michelin-rated Thai place with a memorable marinated tofu, and durian dessert cups. For meeting girls, I used ThaiFriendly, Seeking and Nana Plaza. The first thing that stands out was that I generally did not find Thai girls attractive. Even at Nana (working girls are generally hotter than sugar girls), I had a hard time. Generally flat posteriors and despite a friendly attitude, it really felt like they were going through the motions as opposed to being authentic. ThaiFriendly mostly seemed geared towards one hour meets with girls who barely speak English. And Seeking had girls that were asking ridiculous amounts, think $300 and up, for the same flat asses and mediocre looks. I think the main issue is the lack of English in Thailand, the working girls have a very rudimentary level of English and a high number of tourists. This supply and demand makes sugar dating expensive and impractical, unless you're ok with dating working girls. Anyhow. I met one girl on ThaiFriendly who was a teacher, spoke great English and we got along well, but she was maybe a 7 in my book and the sex felt scripted. Also notable, despite all of these influencers talking about how great Thailand is and their super fancy apartments, I found it was quite challenging to get a decent apartment without bugs and with a AC system that didn't bother my eyes.

Next destination was the Philippines, where the language barrier was less of an issue. Arrive and get swarmed with messages, on Seeking and PinaLove. This was my first mistake, I never should have posted my location as Manila. The general attitude of the girls was mercenary and aggressive, and most of them not very attractive. I met one girl who behaved like an educated civilian. She was tiny, maybe 155 cm, super thin. The sex was interesting, it felt like banging a teenager even though she was 23. Despite being of average size, she was so tight we needed to use lube. At that point I realized why Asian girls prefer Asian customers, they probably don't enjoy being stretched out. And I also realized that all my teenage wishes of having a larger penis were impractical, it would just mean I need to use lube more often and complicate having sex. The joys of maturity. Even though I got along well with this girl, I wouldn't say we connected. I left the Philippines after 10 days because I got sick eating the food, some of the worst I've ever had, flavorless. If you can tolerate the food and the depressing vibe (country is less functional than LatAm, which is saying something), it might be suitable for sugar dating.

At this point I realized Asia was not for sugar dating, excepting maybe Singapore and Japan for US-level prices. LatAm is better by far, and so is Europe. I wasn't getting much work done due to the timezone, so I just decided to head back to Europe. But I wanted to rest up a bit from my food issues in the Phils, so I went to Vietnam. Vietnam in my opinion has the best food in SEA, like Thai food but less spicy. And despite the posterior-ly challenged Thai girls, Viet girls are better in the booty department. Saigon was like Bangkok for Seeking, artificially constrained supply of girls who speak English, grossly high asking prices for average looks. Also, a lot of face filters on the photos to the point where the girls I met didn't look at all like their pictures. The girls I met were generally poor conversationalists, and average in the bedroom. The challenge of finding a decent sugar girl was unreasonable, especially compared to the cheap and cheerful massage places available. Conclusion, like Thailand, Vietnam is more for working girl relationships and not sugar dating. Or marriage. Asian girls seem to be excellent long-term companions.

The main reason I left was that even in Vietnam, the level of cultural disconnect felt enormous. As much as I liked the vibe, the food and so on, I couldn't connect with the people beyond the superficial level, and over a longer period of time I felt like my brain was atrophying. This was also a problem in Thailand, albeit less so in the Phils. It was never a problem in LatAm or Europe. The girls could talk, they could have sex, they could be your friends and keep in touch. All of it felt natural. Asian girls (like many Eastern Europeans I've met), seem to need the structure of either short-term arrangements or a long-term marriage. Casually being yourself with someone and having fun is less in the repertoire. Lessons learned. Asia is for tourism.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3053440]Last fall I spent a few weeks in SE Asia (Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines) having never been before. Having spent a fair amount of time in the Americas and Europe, SE Asia stands out as *very* different culturally. Perhaps some of the most amazing food I've ever had. And yet, pretty weak for sugar dating.[/QUOTE]Philippines is the easiest place. Food is a crap, but girls speak in English and it's so easy to find them. I had sex with many, even an 18 years old virgin. Never paid. I had girls to come over to my place just for sex. Never paid anything, in most cases not even a dinner.

Indonesia is also great. Most girls speak in English. I was surprised, almost everyone there speak English. Jakarta unfortunately is the worst city I have been. You can't walk there, and takes tie to go from a place to another one. Accommodation is surprisingly expensive. Taxis are dirty, and hotels as well. Remind me of India. But people are great, friendly, girls are easy going, and it's not difficult to find pretty ones.

Thailand is still the best place to live in Asia, but girls aren't so attractive. Even though I get laid for free all the time in Bangkok, I never pay for sex.

Vietnam si a disgrace. People are mean, girls are only looking for money. It's full of scam. Tinder girls lure foreigners into expensive clubs, cause they have an arrangement, and they get a percentage on drinks. Since I do not pay, during my stay I was not able to get laid, and I was there for a long time. Worst country in Asia. Don't go fellas, it's a waste of time. Bui Vien is completely controlled by the local mafia, there is even fake police. It's a shitty country, I would never go again.

Cambodia is great, and you can still find genuine relationships. People are nice and friendly, there is a great sense of community. Food is fairly good, and super cheap. It's ok for a few days.

I love Japan, and it's possible to get laid for free. If you are willing to pay there are plenty of options, but you need to know where to go. Food is amazing, and girls dress like no others. Not so many pretty girls, and many have terrible teeth, because in Japan not having straight teeth is considered cool. That's unfortunate. In Thailand girls have braces even if they do not need them, because now it's mainstream. Anyway, for me Japanese girls are cute, and what make the most of them is the way they dress.

South Korea has the most beautiful girls, by far. Unfortunately Korea is like Vietnam. They do not like foreigners, in many clubs they don't let us in. They are protective, they have the smallest dicks in Asia, I read. Not many girls speak English. Very competitive society, like Vietnam, but modern and advanced. People are rude. Girls smoke and spit all the time. If you have a smoking fetish that is the place to go. People do not use deodorant because they have a gene modification and do not smell, so it's impossible to find a spray deodorant in Seoul.

As you can imagine, I'm not for pay, and this forum is mostly for pay. I always get laid for free, even though I'm not that young, and not even that attractive. To each his own, I guess. My two cents.

[QUOTE=MrBuckley;3051637]Can you elaborate on this Steve?[/QUOTE]Sorry I realize I never answered this. Nampa is Japanese street pickup. Not hookers, but seducing civilian girl from a cold approach to the bed. I was reading in surprise and with skepticism this forum:

[URL]https://attractionjapan.com/[/URL]

It's less active now but the past stories are so amazing. Meet a girl on the street. Take her for some quick drinks. Take her to hotel and bang her. Most interesting were the ones where the girl deflects a kisss more than once but an hour later they are banging.

There are some truly great techniques discussed there like push and pull, anti sl*t defense, persistence, kino, etc. At first I found it a bit unbelievable. But then in 2019 I bedded a girl who I got all the way to the room and then she seems uncomfortable. She literally said "I can't have sex with someone I just met". Yet we were banging 20 minutes later while she texted her mom she'the be home late. 😝.

Anyhow I found it quite helpful in upping my game and confidence. Best of luck out there!

P.S. Thanks Ted for the somewhat sobering but honest report out! While I find Asians more attractive than you do, it somewhat aligns with my statement about "for girls do what the city offers best" and since Bangkok and Philippines have well developed sex culture and venue, it's not surprising Seeking is not the best venue. I am finding just the opposite in Mexico City. It has a horrible paid sex scene and Seeking is absolutely overflowing with hotties.

Headed to cdmx which is one of the most target rich Seeking environments I've ever seen. Just tons of girls and new ones every day. I had dates with five different girls set up, one being a duo repeat but the other three new to the harem. I never double book — all these are independent dates for either lunch or dinner.

I decided to head down a day early, which of course means I need a last minute date. I message a few of my dates about rearranging but don't hear back. In the meantime meantime I spam 4-5 girls with the messsge that I'm landing soon and going out to have fun. Maybe with them. This last minute approach often works.

Sure enough I get a couple nibbles but then a strong hit from this gorgeous red head. Although she is not my usual type there is something very appealing about her. And her chat is that bubbly chatty thing I love. So we book a date at this super vibey Asian place in the St Regis.

She's almost an hour late but I can't fault her too bad — the traffic is hideous — and she sends me a live pin so I can stalk her. Eventually she shows and I meet her at the curb. She's def all that with dark red hair to her butt and beautiful green / gray eyes. Surprisingly like my last date here, she shows in jeans and sneakers even though she knows we are going high end. No matter, she looks great.

The restaurant is 100% amazing and we do the Omakaze which is just spectacular. She is over the moon being spoiled like this. Although she is Colombian (but with Nordic coloring) she speaks perfect English, having lived in Canada for six months. This is a wonderful surprise and wins her 1000 bonus points.

After dinner we bounce to Carlotta Reforma which is on the 38th floor of the Ritz. Amazing view but wow the prices. I had a drink from the left hand menu which was $20 usd. She had one from the right hand which was $38 usd! Wtf? Even I am stunned at that price. I mean it was fine and the view to die for, but beware.

I love the bounce because it's the opportunity to deepen the chemistry through physical contact that is harder at dinner. Sure enough, as we take in the view at the Carlotta we are holding hands lightly stroking each other. A little hand on thigh. It's very romantic to the point that I start to get a chub! So it's off to the hotel we go.

One of the things I really like about this girl is she is high energy bubbly. Not quite Nat level, but darn good. She's always smiling and commenting on how great things are. She's dancing in her chair a bit and when we get to the room, she literally skips in before turning around and planting a huge kiss on me. I luv me a bubbly girl.

The kissing is solid but not grade A, as it's plenty of open mouth but I do all the tongue work. But def enough to get that chub (and more) back. And shortly I have her shirt off and am enjoying her perfect A cups with rock hard nipples, as she massages my now hard cock through my jeans.

It's only a minute or so before she's unbuckling and unzipping my jeans ad dropping to her knees. Her BJ is on point tho I have to slow her down a bit. But she's def getting me going. She's not shy about eye contact as she licks the underside before taking it full and deep.

I let her go at that a while. Feels great. We both shed our remaining clothes. Then she hops on the bed on her knees and with me still standing continues great head. No balls yet but we will get to that.

At some point I move her to Steve2 (her on her side blowing me, me fingering her). She's pretty confused about what I am after and we go thru a few odd positions before she settle into Steve 2. Her pussy is nice and wet from the BJ and I loooove fingering while being blown.

I am ready to reciprocate so I push her on her back and start working g her tits. They are quite small but lovely large erect nipples that come even more alive under my mouth. She's grinding and moaning and clearly enjoys this. I am planning to rock her world but her body language declines DATY.

No harm no foul. We will just fuck instead. Although 3 of my dates are confirmed bareback she wants a condom for sex and I don't push it. We mount up doggie style st the side of the bed and is start a good pounding.

After a good bit I swap her to the Steve. First with her legs straight up in front of me. Then I spread her legs and lean over to make out while I fuck her. I love the Steve. It's so versatile.

Even though I like the versatility of the Steve, I get best feeling in mish on the bed driving he'the and kissing. So we move to this and it's great. I am super hard and feel a little build but def not enough with the condom.

So off it comes and I roll on my back for a mouth finish. By now I have her sucking balls and she starts to improvise with long tongue laps from my balls to mid shaft. She's just lapping away like a husky that found a salt lick. OMG it's great.

Twice she goes back full mouth on shaft for the finish but we don't quite get there. She gets back on balls and the Husky move and then a final full mouth finish. The build is slow and beautiful and I'm squirming like like a bass on the shore, until I finally blow a big load in her mouth. Some girls stop when they feel that first shot — but she just keep going and going as I fill her mouth.

Damn that was a great shot. And what a great girl. Bubbly. Full English. Great find and a def repeat.

Wrote up one story below and had two other dates that I will only summarize. But in the meantime here is the best part of my cdmx visit.

Dateline: Mexico City.

T and D are girls I met six months ago on Seeking. Actually I met T and I really liked her. We fucked two nights. Then at lunch the second day she asked if I'the ever had a threesome! Well you got to love that question, because it's going somewhere and in this case it was going straight to D.

Originally she soft played it and when I asked her if they were friends or lovers she said just friends. LIE! Turns out they are a couple but they both love dick too. Sweet! Needless to say our session turned out well, with me learning the nice girl on girl surprise in realtime.

So as I planned my CDMX trip, I had already kicked Danna to the curb since she got lazy. And T was my new girl -- along with D. Although I'd only had the one duo experience with them last August, I could feel their chemistry. They are both great in their own way, but together, they are amazing because their chemistry feeds the threesome. So in addition to arranging three new girl dates, I decided to have T and D over for the weekend -- like a full sleepover, not just quick nights.

The weekend min-vacay was absolutely marvelous. They arrived around 3 on Saturday with a small roll aboard shared between them. Absolutely ZERO issues with the hotel the whole time. No one said a thing, neither on arrival with luggage or whenever we returned to the hotel at various times, including 3. 30 AM our last night.

Although they looked super cute in their torn jeans and sneakers, we had the whole weekend so I didn't try to ravish them from the get-go. They had been excited about the pool, so we made it the first order of business. I had forgotten my suit and neither of them had a suit (they haven't swum since they left Venezuela three years ago!) so shopping was first. There is a cute little walking street in Zona Rosa that is not far so we went there. Got them 6 swimsuits for USD $48 total! And mine was a whopping $12. Some things in CDMX are cheap. And others very US pricing.

So we swam for a couple hours and had Mojitos at the pool (there is a phone where you can call down) and they really enjoyed themselves. But after this it was time for pre-dinner sex. The girls are a nice contrast and check all the boxes between them. T is slim with a bubble butt to die for. And D is a bit softer all over with amazing C / D cup tits. They are both great kissers and love to fuck.

Of course we started with the double blowjob. This is one of the things that clearly takes a duo, at it was epic. Mostly one on balls and one on shaft, which feels amazing. But also a bit of harmonica sandwich, which I also love. From time to time one would come up and make out with me, while the other had full access. I love this too, because kissing while being blown feels sensational.

When I can take it no more, I start fucking T in the Steve. D gets on tit work and is sucking Ts tits while I go to town. They looove that; they also love making out while I fuck one or the other. After a bit, I change to doggie. Love Ts ass, but indicate for the to line up beside her. What guy doesn't have a fantasy to fuck two girls in doggie, alternating between the two? And it’s bareback so no condom switches. It’s odd though because you start mentally comparing notes. T is much better in doggie because she arches her back and the fit is better. D is harder to fuck mechanically, because she keeps her back straighter. Like any good girlfiend would, T coached D up a bit on this, pushing her lower back down. Hahaha.

When I tired a bit, we moved back to double BJ. But before long T wanted to ride. We got D on my face, and T rode while I ate D out. Everyone having a bit of the party! T was putting in a moderate pace at first, but I knew she was working to an O when she started grinding at the pace of a hummingbird. This never gets me to shoot a load, but there is something hornifying about a girl using you as her boy-toy and so I got rock hard.

Well, got to do something with that rock hard hardon, so I swing T to her back and slide in mish. Fuck she feels fine. So I start a good pace, both arms fully extended and also lying on her chest to chest. It's not long before I feel the build and let go a shattering shot CIP.

After some cuddling, we shower and head off to our 730 dinner. We ate at a Argentinian place, because they loved that last time. This time it was a different one and not nearly as good. But steak is generally good, even when not over the top, so we enjoyed ours and nice bottle of Malbec. We planned to bounce to another bar, but strolling towards it, we saw a lingerie shop and stopped in. We ended up buying T a red barely-there outfit with some chains interspersed. It was really cute.

After this, we walked to King Cole bar in the Regis. I love giving low income girls a taste of the high end -- they are 100% in awe of the beauty and elegance of the place and so appreciative. We have a couple vibey cocktails and then bounce to the lower end, more rowdy part of town. We plan to go to Mr Bunny (stay tuned -- high recommend) but they have a no vapes policy and are super strict at security. We don't want to lose my vape, so we stop across the street instead. But we are not digging tiny one shot Bailey's at restaurant markup, so we decide to take the party to the room.

At the liquor store we grab a bottle of Baileys and a bottle of whisky (D prefers) and head to the room. I have a suite with a separate bedroom and living area, so we set up shop in the living room and crank the tunes and pour generous drinks. Damn these girls are so much fun. T gets on her new getup and you can tell she's a little shy about bringing the full stripper energy, but we move the coffee table and she puts on a little show.

At some point, D and I figure we should be naked, so we lose our clothes -- and keep the Bailey's flowing. T starts riding me cowgirl, but like a stripper would -- her tiny pussy-cover still in place and my dick to the side, not inside. This is super nice, but it gets way more nice when D gets on her knees behind her and starts sucking my dick. She's doing a great job and T is grinding so she's getting some love also. But the real kicker comes when the ride starts feeling different and T starts to moan. It takes me a second to process, but D is finger fucking T while she sucks my dick! It was like T and I were fucking but D was the intermediary! Wow. That's a new one.

We also do the doggie swap fucking on the couch, but eventually we take it to the bed. Damn its a bit of blur, but there is much pussy eaten, dick sucked, fucking in various positions, you name it. Its such a free for all when the girls are lovers. But in the end, I take T into Mish and blast another load inside her. As I do, I wonder, should I keep blasting in T -- would she get jealous if I blast in the since T is my main girl and D is our joint side piece. I give it a go the next day, but finish differently. Stay tuned.

The next day is T's sister's birthday, and even though it's a bit weird, I agreed to take her out with the three of us. We end up having a grand time. But first we start at the pool -- just me and T and D. The girls are like fish and stay in the water 24/7. We keep ordering Mojitos and are getting a little lit. I spend quite a bit of time chatting with an American who is just getting into the game. Nice guy and I give him lots of tips and send him my book. But at some point he leaves and things get more interesting.

We are all three in the pool and there is one other guy there reading and turned sideways to us and not paying attention (maybe?) because we start to get very frisky in the pool. Neither T or D can touch bottom, so I often have a girl on each arm, keeping them afloat. It's really sexy when one or the other starts making out with me. I alternate some and it’s nice and we also have a three way kiss. Those are always awkward, but still something you don't get everyday, so fun in and of itself. When D is out of the water, T and I start dry fucking. I mean I have a raging hard on and she's straddled me and grinding cowgirl. Ah, the magic of alcohol!

Eventually my hardon subsides to a chub but I still have the bring me a towel so I can cover up a bit for the guy at the pool and anyone else we find in the elevator. Back in the room its on again. I know that going out with her sister we are probably going to get wasted and crash, so I want to get one in before that starts. The girls of course are down -- they always are.

It's all a bit blurry, but there are a few things I remember. We start double BJ as usual. And we do the thing where T rides me like a hummingbird while I eat the out. We do the side by side doggie. Then I swap T to the Steve and think the will start sucking her tits or making out. But she thinks I am headed for side by side Steve and rolls to her back adjacent.

As appealing at this is, I start fucking T and feels so great I don't really want to switch. But that's OK, T would never leave her girl hanging. She reaches over and masturbates D while I fuck T. This is sexy as FUCK! And let me tell you, girl on girl finger fucking is a completely different thing than when guys do it. Mostly (not always) we try to be a bit gentle or a moderate pace. T is fucking the's Gspot at a mad pace! I'd seen this before in my only other full lesbian lovers duo. A girl can fuck another girl at an astonishing pace. Makes you wonder.

Later we swap to the chair and get on double BJ, but I'm having some trouble finishing. A sure fire finish for me is lube and jacking off while watching a girl masturbate. And two is better than one! So I put them side by side at the edge of the bed and have them masturbate. Although I am enjoying the show, this isn't some slow and sexy thing -- the girls are jacking off lightning fast, straining to get a solid O.

Well, I'm going at it too with dick in hand and it's lovely and I feel the build. I'm thinking I don't really want to drop it on the sheets, so I move onto the bed on my knees, perpendicular to the girls, with T up against my knees. My idea is to drop it on T's tummy and I am getting close. The girls are in a different world now and it’s sexy as fuck as we all reach orgasm at nearly the same time! But the most remarkable thing is that my shot is epic! Instead of dribbling out on Ts stomach, it shoots all the way over her and lands on D’s stomach, a good 2 feet away! Wtf? Never shot that far in my life. It takes a village!

After this her sister arrives and we have a great evening. We go out to a fun dinner place, then bounce to Carlota Reforma on the 38th floor of the Ritz. Amazing view -- I knew because I was there two nights ago with a different girl! Hahaha. And finally we go to Mr Bunny (Zona Rosa) around 9 PM. This is my favorite club in CDMX. It is so local and so happening. Just off the hook. The girls start off very slow, just wiggling in their chairs. But by 1 AM the liquor has done its job and we are all dancing and grinding and feeling the vibe. Her sister had the most amazing time, which made both T and me very happy and we stumble home at 3:30 AM.

Alas, I want to test drive one more girl so I sent them away today. But we may meet up again tomorrow. I do adore these two and want to end on a high note. So my girl tonight would have to rock my world to displace them. Let's give her a chance! But I will probably see T and the tomorrow for one last round of awesomeness.

So I've written up a few of the best parts, but want to capture the entire experience, albeit in less detail. All girls engaged via Seeking Arrangement.

My adventure starts with E, whom I consider a bonus date because I flew in a day early and added her last minute to the roster. She's a bubbly fun girl with perfect english and astonishing red hair and green-gray eyes. We had a absolutely lovely time at omakase and bounce to a roof top bar. Back in the room the sex is solid but I sense just a bit of a pro / fake vibe. Maybe I'm imagining it. She's a nice girl. I'the repeat but not thrilled about the condom sex 5000 R.

The next day is M who clearly has a bit more of a girl next door vibe. She's not the prettiest of my dates but she won flirty chat hands down. When she arrives she's quite a bit frumpier than I imagined. Bundled in a big coat and not looking very Sexy despite being dressed that way.

This date is quite different as she has no English. We make do with google translate. We have drinks at the stunning Carlota Reforma and dinner at the even more stunning Ling Ling. The sex is darn passionate and she's quite a wildcat despite seeming conservative in public. Its full on bareback so quite lovely. 3000 R.

Then its the weekend with T and Du. There is something incredibly satisfying about shacking up with TWO Girls over the weekend. We just have the best time. Swimming. Eating. Drinking. Fucking. Its easy and companionable and just a fuckton of fun. And nothing can possibly top bareback with two lesbian lovers. This is the pinnacle of sexual decadence. 12000 R.

The next day I kick them out so I can sample another girl from the buffet. K. K is both a positive ad negative surprise. The negative is that she's def 20 pounds heavier than her pics. But the positive is that her face is gorgeous. I mean 9+ beautiful and you don't find many Mexican Girls in that lofty space.

We have a nice Italian dinner. Again not much english but somehow our conversation goes well. She has a great way of holding eye contact till you flinch. And man she's beautiful.

K has already agreed bareback and seems ready to get to the room. Her BJ is quite unusual because she uses a lot of hands. But her spit is really thick and slippery and it feels great. Eventually I unload a CIP in mish. Lovely. 3500 R.

And then my last day I spent one on one with T and its just great. We absolutely deepened our connection beyond sex to more BFGF. Getting some feels for that girl. And a final CIP in mish to end things on a high note. 4000 R (we agreed 3000 originally back in August but I gave her a bit more knowing her situation).

A few CDMX observations:

Weather is absolutely stunning this time of year. 70 and sunny every day!

Super target-rich Seeking Arrangement scene. More girls online to choose From than anywhere I've been.

Prices range from 3000 for a pretty non-pro to 5000-6000 for the prettiest and / or pro Girls.

Bareback is def on the table with the non pros. I find this worldwide with 21-26 year olds these days and Cdmx is no exception. Some ask for clean STD and vasectomy proof, which is fair.

For great steak Asado de Argentina. For lame steak Quebracho.

Super high end bars? King Cole and Carlota Reforma. I prefer the latter for the view.

Super high end restaurants? Tatsugoro and Ling Ling. I prefer the former for Amazing omakase and Ling Ling for overall best of the best. Vibe. View. Food. Possibly my favorite restaurant worldwide!

Club? Mr Bunny Zone Rosa. Completely off the hook pumping vibe. Even on Sunday. But don't go here to meet chicks. Its all couples and groups.

So after taking a day off from the girls and having a mediocre date with another girl, I reunited with T. D started her period and did not join. This turned out for the best because the entire vibe was different one on one with T. Total BFGF vibe.

She bops out of the Uber around 2 pm looking amazing in her signature torn jeans and sneakers. That ass is a work of art. She's just brought a small backpack because she's not staying over.

We head up to the room to drop her stuff and figure out a plan. Neither of us have had lunch so we start with that. We have some shockingly large and well priced chicken quesadillas and a couple beers. Even just a lunch I get that great GF vibe-- when they look at you a certain way and mean it. There is def shared affection here.

I decide to take her shopping at a higher end mall about 20 minutes walk. It's def a very "American format" mall with prices to match in all the standard western stores. But spots like Pull and Bear and similar have reasonably priced stuff.

I don't mind paying for things that are worth it but hate paying for things that are just a brand. Like $80 for a tiny Nike workout shirt. In Mexico! No thanks. Fortunately, as a poor girl, she is 💯 aligned on this. We get her some booty shorts and a top at Pull and Bear and then I do splurge to get her some Steve Madden sneakers she particularly loved. In a comedic revelation, I realize that of all the hundreds of shoes she could choose, she chose the same ones I bought for Shayla in LA. 😋I have a type I guess!

Throughout our walk to the mall and throughout shopping, T is either holding my arm or my hand. It starts to get a much more romantic vibe than the threesome. We stop at Starbucks on the way back to cool down and then head up to the room.

I've had soooo much sex the past few days I am not urgently horny so we flop on the bed to rest. We both fall asleep for bits and prob nap off and on for two hours. I guess we weren't fully recovered from Mr Bunny.

I love though the main course starts so slow and sexy. She's got her head on my shoulder and just starts rubbing my stomach, at first over my shirt and then under. And I am feeling her wondrously soft skin and massaging her butt a bit. It's a slow sexy build as I get hard and she starts massaging me over and then under my jeans.

Before long, the jeans and undies are on the floor and she's blowing me. I lean forward a bit and takeoff her shirt and bra and enjoy her tits while she blows me. And then all the clothes get shed and we are naked.

I am thinking of reciprocating with some oral and always start with tits. She's one of those girls whose tits are connected directly to her pussy. So as I work those hardening nipples with my mouth, she's cooing and moaning. After good bit I think I will get some DATY going. But she literally has my head in a death grip, clamped on her tit, wanting more tit work.

When I'm finally freed I am headed for DATY but she wants urgently to fuck. So I mount up in mish and sure enough that tit work has her wet for entry. I start fucking her at a moderate pace.

Well she is a bit more dominant on her own and she wants to be fucked hard and fast. So she is gripping my butt with her hands and driving me in and out at a much faster pace than I would naturally set. I oblige and start fucking her aggressively. Got to say I am super surprised when just maybe five minutes in, she starts gasping and clamping and has a strong O just from being fucked hard. Got to love that!

She's fucking spent so I do let her rest some but soon put her back on BJ. I've introduced her to harmonica which she is very good at. Good BLS also, so a nice BJ buffet.

But of course now I've got to fuck her. We start in bedside doggie and it's very good. But in this position I can go a very long time and do, as she clamps the sheets tightly. We flip over to the Steve for a bit but she's not as tight there so I move her up the bed into Mish.

We have amazing dick and pussy fit in mish so it feels heavenly. We do some kissing. And some eye gazing. I love the intimacy level we are now at. It's intoxicating. And so I continue to pump at a brisk pace knowing her predilection for same. And then that lovely slow build until a crashing five shot finish, my dick pumping hard against her pussy walls as her pussy clamps in return. So good.

I suppose that was the highlight of the night and maybe even the trip. But after we nap a bit more we head to an absolutely fabulous dinner at Asado de Argentina. Same waiter as August! The ribeye there and the table side Caesar preparation are amazing. Coupled with a nice Malbec, it is a truly lovely dinner.

Back in the room we both frankly too beat to fuck, so we watch Bridgerton, where other people fuck. 😝 It's a lovely cuddly end to the evening and off she goes in her Uber Def dig that sweetheart. And as Cdmx is a fab city with marvelous weather I am sure I will see her again!

All prices quoted below are Mexican pesos. Got Brazil on the brain!

Amazing reports steve also thanks for the money details, the economics of pussy sometimes interest me more than the pussy itself LMAO.

Hi Steve 9696,

Firstly, thanks for your reports and it does look like you are the only one hitting jackpot every time you use SA.

I must say your reports make you an enviably lucky bloke you are and I guess that is how it should be when one uses Seeking. Wink.

[QUOTE=Hhann;3055728]Hi Steve 9696,

Firstly, thanks for your reports and it does look like you are the only one hitting jackpot every time you use SA.

I must say your reports make you an enviably lucky bloke you are and I guess that is how it should be when one uses Seeking. Wink.[/QUOTE]Not sure if there was some sarcasm in that wink or not but I do think I prob have above average success. I attribute this primarily to my searching and vetting and chat process. It's a lot of work but it makes sure the girls you meet up with are 90% what you expect.

I have a slight advantage as well being a tall, slim, and not half bad looking gringo. But I think overall text vibe and charisma at the dinner table is prob more important than any of that.

That said I would not quite say jackpot. It's a bell curve with a strong right hand skew. My full cdmx roster and report card as follows:

2024 Nohemi (B-) Beautiful girl. Strong date. Weak BJ.

2025 Danna - (A+ then D) Our first visits were indeed the jackpot. Some of the best ever. A+. But then the revisit in August was a D. Lazy and entitled boo.

2025 T (B) - Nice GND. Sweet girl. Good in bed. Brought her friend D. Yay.

2026 Estefania (B) Truly great girl and perfect English but not 100% my physical type.

2026 T and D (A) Moved up from a B to an A. Had such a great time with them and T one on one.

2026 Mar (C) Pretty good sexually but kinda square bod and just a bit meh physically.

2026 Karol (B) Gorgeous face but heavier than pics. Solid sex. If she was built she'd be a keeper.

So not all jackpots. But you have to hit a B or a C to score an A. Very happy to have her right now.

Yes there was a bit of sarcasm, I must admit.

Be it physical or digital, a tool is only as good as its user.

So I guess it is probably your own charm is doing the trick, not necessarily Seeking that is working all the time giving the best at 100%.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3055858]Not sure if there was some sarcasm in that wink or not but I do think I prob have above average success. I attribute this primarily to my searching and vetting and chat process. It's a lot of work but it makes sure the girls you meet up with are 90% what you expect.

I have a slight advantage as well being a tall, slim, and not half bad looking gringo. But I think overall text vibe and charisma at the dinner table is prob more important than any of that.

That said I would not quite say jackpot. It's a bell curve with a strong right hand skew. My full cdmx roster and report card as follows:

2024 Nohemi (B-) Beautiful girl. Strong date. Weak BJ.

2025 Danna - (A+ then D) Our first visits were indeed the jackpot. Some of the best ever. A+. But then the revisit in August was a D. Lazy and entitled boo..[/QUOTE]