Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3001938]To think that you bringing a hooker a pair of underwear is the reason you are getting good service is fucking funny and ridiculous.[/QUOTE]If you were the girl, and some stranger tried to give you new underwear, how would you feel? Put yourself in her place. Probably you would feel insulted, like there was something wrong with the underwear you had and were wearing? Right. So the woman would not be favorably impressed if some stranger tried to replace her regular underwear with some different underwear. Or she would be suspicious, like maybe there was a web camera in the underwear by the front, to capture her pee hole.

Certainly if I were a woman I would want to wash the underwear at home before putting it on, or modeling it, the strange man probably used it to jack off with and left his cum in it.

If you think that is the best way to a woman's vagina, put yourself in her place. How would you feel if a strange woman tried to give you new underwear?? Like she felt there was something wrong with the underwear you had on!

This is the most realistic post I've read here in a long time.

[QUOTE=Queens35;3002045]She's full of crap. I'm on the spanish Colombian hooker forum, and many Colombians look for under 100, and few would pay more than 300.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeBayArea;3002076]The guy who brought this up, said they FB and online girls, semi-pro's and he never asserted that he is getting good service for this. He asserted he likes the photo shoots and the memories. Can we just be done with this discussion already.[/QUOTE]If you develop a stable of semi pro chicas in MDE and see them regularly, like 3-4 times a year, and get to know them the VS $5 panties are a big hit and a lot of fun after a great fairly priced session. Some of these loser trolls on here will argue endlessly about anything so get used to it while you are searching for valuable info. I just got back from another very successful trip.

[QUOTE=MikeBayArea;3002073]Okay, so update on the Tinder girl who is staying for 3 days for 1 million. Absolute smoke show in every way. Her personality is amazing. Ok, I'm officially sold on Colombia. I get it now. I have zero concerns about drugging. She's just not that type of person. I'm a pretty good judge of character, and I really like this girl. We are on day 2, and perhaps she stays longer. Going to get dinner tonight in Provenza. What a dream Colombia can be. Especially coming from the states where a 3 or 4 women won't even look at you even though you are out of her league. I'm exaggerating, I do and can get women in the states, but we all know what they are like. Pretty much not worth the hassle in 90% of the cases.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeBayArea;3002070]
The 35 year old woman I met was from seeking. She didn't ask for money or anything because she is trying to play the long game for marriage. But we also didn't hook up.[/QUOTE]Well, you get most of it. You have been a quick study. This last statement is showing you are not all the way there yet. You still have the john mindset where a beautiful young woman could only be with you only if she is looking for $. Why does the 35 year old or any other woman have to be playing the "long game"? There are stunning Colombian women who will go out with you just to share your company just if you pick up the tab on dates. It is not all of them but trust me, they are there. I see them with every trip I take to Colombia.

The Girl next door type whom I met in Medellin off Seeking was for me a really good first date. It was fun: good food, conversation, and sex. For her, she told me later it was the best night of her life. What I thought of as a good first date was really special to this one Colombian woman, and I think in hindsight she was not the only one who would say that. It is not that I am that great. It is just that the expectations of Colombian women on dates is usually pretty low.

[QUOTE=MikeBayArea;3002070]So, I like the idea of meeting an online girl and taking her to lunch to see the connection. But what are the expectations here? If I don't like her, and say no, is she going to lose her shit for going out to lunch. Does she want me to pay her to take her to lunch?[/QUOTE]And there is getting out of the American mind set about women where if a woman is upset or offended, the whole world must stop. If you do not like a woman and do not want to spend time with her, who cares how she feels? This whole notion that men cause women to have certain feelings versus the women having themselves herself is nuts. Her feelings are her issue not yours, but I can see why you think that would be a potential problem. There is literally no situation in the USA where a woman cannot be a victim and men are the reason for female suffering.

When I have seen Colombian women out of line with what they want, they get slapped right back into place by other women. There is not a legal system that rewards "victims". Americans are familiar with male machismo. They do not know about female marianismo. [URL]https://hiplatina.com/marianismo-latina-mental-health/[/URL].

"We have been told that our opinion does not matter. We have been told that we need to put others' needs before our own. We have been told that men are superior to women. We have been told that we always have to be loving. We have been told that we have to be submissive. ".

I do not embrace all of this, but believe me, when I came to Colombia, this lack of the victim mindset and accepting responsibility for your feelings and behavior was a welcome change. You are not going to hear the incessant complaining about men in public spaces like you do in the USA.

Shakira's tour name reflected that mentality. The name of her tour translates to real women do not cry, they earn and pay the bills.

The victim mindset is why I swore off American women.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3002130]If you were the girl, and some stranger tried to give you new underwear, how would you feel? Put yourself in her place. Probably you would feel insulted, like there was something wrong with the underwear you had and were wearing? Right. So the woman would not be favorably impressed if some stranger tried to replace her regular underwear with some different underwear. Or she would be suspicious, like maybe there was a web camera in the underwear by the front, to capture her pee hole.

Certainly if I were a woman I would want to wash the underwear at home before putting it on, or modeling it, the strange man probably used it to jack off with and left his cum in it.

If you think that is the best way to a woman's vagina, put yourself in her place. How would you feel if a strange woman tried to give you new underwear?? Like she felt there was something wrong with the underwear you had on![/QUOTE]You make it sound like people are approaching women on the street and asking personal questions. I have women I see regularly who like lingerie that I buy for them. I ask if they like VS and everyone has always said "yes. ".

If it's not your thing that's fine. But, I am doing quite well thank you.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3002130]If you were the girl, and some stranger tried to give you new underwear, how would you feel? Put yourself in her place. Probably you would feel insulted, like there was something wrong with the underwear you had and were wearing? Right.[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't fucking know. I guess I do not look at hookers the same as some other guys do. To me, bringing a hooker a gift is like going up to McDonald's with a gift for the cashier. It is just weird to me. Then what do you say before you leave? Make sure you wear them for your next customer; he is sure to enjoy how they look on you? Then when the next guy compliments her, what does she say? Thanks. The guy before you, James, brought them for me. I am not really a fan of the color, but hey, they were free. ?

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3002130]If you were the girl, and some stranger tried to give you new underwear, how would you feel? Put yourself in her place. Probably you would feel insulted, like there was something wrong with the underwear you had and were wearing? Right.[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't fucking know. I guess I do not look at hookers the same as some other guys do. To me, bringing a hooker a gift is like going up to McDonald's with a gift for the cashier. It is just weird to me. Then what do you say before you leave? Make sure you wear them for your next customer; he is sure to enjoy how they look on you? Then when the next guy compliments her, what does she say? Thanks. The guy before you, James, brought them for me. I am not really a fan of the color, but hey, they were free. ?

[QUOTE=Queens35;3002045]I'm on the spanish Colombian hooker forum, and many Colombians look for under 100, and few would pay more than 300.[/QUOTE]Can you name the forum?

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I agree please stop arguing about the panties haha. Who actually cares?

No one read my loooong ass trip report because there are three pages of people talking about panties. I know it's long as shit though so that's probably the main reason. If you are looking for chica friendly hotels or a cheap threesome there's a lot of useful info in there though. People literally post right after asking questions about booking hotels. Will make my future trip reports more digestible.

If you are a strange guy giving her panties obviously she will think you are strange. If you are not then she won't? Especially if they are wrapped? Who literally cares, not everything has to be so polarizing. Most of us wouldn't do it but that guy likes doing it so live and let live.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002258]Well, you get most of it. You have been a quick study. This last statement is showing you are not all the way there yet. You still have the john mindset where a beautiful young woman could only be with you only if she is looking for $. Why does the 35 year old or any other woman have to be playing the "long game"? There are stunning Colombian women who will go out with you just to share your company just if you pick up the tab on dates. It is not all of them but trust me, they are there. I see them with every trip I take to Colombia.

The Girl next door type whom I met in Medellin off Seeking was for me a really good first date. It was fun: good food, conversation, and sex. For her, she told me later it was the best night of her life. What I thought of as a good first date was really special to this one Colombian woman, and I think in hindsight she was not the only one who would say that. It is not that I am that great. It is just that the expectations of Colombian women on dates is usually pretty low.

And there is getting out of the American mind set about women where if a woman is upset or offended, the whole world must stop. If you do not like a woman and do not want to spend time with her, who cares how she feels?[/QUOTE]I agree with the first part. Again, covered in my loooong ass trip report on days 5 and 6 but the girl I met on tinder turned out to be a total civilian also had a the time of her life, never mentioned money or marriage and cried multiple times that I had to leave. But she never tried to get me to stay or keep things going with her long distance or send her money or anything. She just had a great time.

Not every girl in Colombia is a hooker. But I agree it feels sort of rare when you are scrolling through semi pro and pro dating app profiles. Gives you a skewed perspective.

Has she mentioned marriage? If she's 35 she could be thinking about that but YOU are possibly overthinking it. It sounds like you are enjoying your trip so you will probably be back. Just take it one step a time and sample the full scene.

I think it's good to be conscious of a girl's feelings and not string her along but you sure as shit don't owe her anything even if you go on to spend multiple nights together. People in the US sometimes date for years with no intention or promise of marriage.

[QUOTE=Queens35;3002045]I'm on the spanish Colombian hooker forum..[/QUOTE]I know exactly what Spanish Forum you are talking about because I use it and stay connected to the Colombian Community and their reviews in regards to P4P.

IMO Gringos would destroy that forum with their arrogance and entitlement along with boasting and bragging. It's best to keep it FCR "Fight Club Rules". A lot of Gringos affect the P4P culture negatively. Let them stay where the other Gringos are at and cohabitate together with their meet ups with each other, bar crawls and sleep overs.

Heading back to MDE for good times with great chicas next month 6/17-22. Should be fun, as always.

If you're going to be around, send me a PM and we can get together for a beer at Gato Blanco, or somewhere else.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002258]Well, you get most of it. You have been a quick study. This last statement is showing you are not all the way there yet. You still have the john mindset where a beautiful young woman could only be with you only if she is looking for $. Why does the 35 year old or any other woman have to be playing the "long game"? There are stunning Colombian women who will go out with you just to share your company just if you pick up the tab on dates. It is not all of them but trust me, they are there. I see them with every trip I take to Colombia.

The Girl next door type whom I met in Medellin off Seeking was for me a really good first date. It was fun: good food, conversation, and sex. For her, she told me later it was the best night of her life. What I thought of as a good first date was really special to this one Colombian woman, and I think in hindsight she was not the only one who would say that. It is not that I am that great. It is just that the expectations of Colombian women on dates is usually pretty low.

And there is getting out of the American mind set about women where if a woman is upset or offended, the whole world must stop. If you do not like a woman and do not want to spend time with her, who cares how she feels? This whole notion that men cause women to have certain feelings versus the women having themselves herself is nuts. Her feelings are her issue not yours, but I can see why you think that would be a potential problem. There is literally no situation in the USA where a woman cannot be a victim and men are the reason for female suffering.

When I have seen Colombian women out of line with what they want, they get slapped right back into place by other women. There is not a legal system that rewards "victims". Americans are familiar with male machismo. They do not know about female marianismo. [URL]https://hiplatina.com/marianismo-latina-mental-health/[/URL].

"We have been told that our opinion does not matter. We have been told that we need to put others' needs before our own. We have been told that men are superior to women. We have been told that we always have to be loving. We have been told that we have to be submissive. ".

I do not embrace all of this, but believe me, when I came to Colombia, this lack of the victim mindset and accepting responsibility for your feelings and behavior was a welcome change. You are not going to hear the incessant complaining about men in public spaces like you do in the USA.

Shakira's tour name reflected that mentality. The name of her tour translates to real women do not cry, they earn and pay the bills.

The victim mindset is why I swore off American women.[/QUOTE]Oh boy where do I start. I'll be short.

I know delusions can be alluring. But when reality hits they can be painful or worse damaging also.

If a good looking Colombiana is dating you, there is a motive. Whatever that maybe. An upgrade. A green card. A scam. Financial help or whatever.

The delusion is that if you're a middle aged male that knows little Spanish and thinks you're entering some organic relationship. Take your blinders off.

That's not reality. All I'm saying is enjoy the fantasy, see it for what it is and stop with the lecturing.

Alternatively double down and know you deserve what you have coming. It's no more complicated than that.

Now if you're 20's, a fit good looking, solid Spanish speaker with US income and was pulling estrato 6 young women, you know the ones that get out of their Toyota forerunner SUVs with their amiga and have 2 cute well groomed dogs with them. I'm not saying the same. But they are not going to date the miggle aged overweight gringo. So a dose of reality is needed.

There's many other scenarios where a good looking Colombian will show you a good time but for most of us its a love fantasy.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;3002329]OK 👍 guys theres nothing wrong with giving a gift to these poor girls. Mr. No personality doesn't have a clue to developing some good kharma. With me. Being an expert of course. Will do things outside the normal and making people happy. Never hurts. No matter how awkward or stupid. Guys be cool with the girls and be rewarded.[/QUOTE]It is crazy to think that girls would not like gifts. Who doesn't like gifts? If it is not something she likes, she can always give it to a friend who would appreciate it. I don't know about other guys but I give gifts without expecting anything in return. It is a gift, a gesture of appreciation to the girl usually for past performances. The price of the gifts are insignificant to me and to most guys. Most girls are appreciative of the gifts. You can give gifts if you want and you can not give gifts if you want. But no reason to criticize guys who give gifts to girls. Is it the same as giving a gift to the casher at McDonalds's? Only if the girl from McDonald's is engaging in intimate acts with me.

Now some guys say, these girls are all working girls and you should treat them like the working girls that they are. That isn't my attitude when I meet a girl in Medellin. Not all girls are the same as the streetwalkers you see in El Centro.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3002152]This is the most realistic post I've read here in a long time.[/QUOTE]I went with Colombian men to La Isla and they didn't have problem spending money.