Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2591354]Yes, correctly, hospitals in Italy were in fact overloaded. Why? The Italian medical doctors told everyone (also young people) who were infected to rush to the hospitals.

And they did! [/QUOTE]This never happened and it is extraordinary that you may actually believe that doctors wanted their hospitals to be overloaded. If you do, I'm very sorry for you as it must be hell being you! Have some respect for the frontline workers as you will surely need them one day. Shame on you!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2591149]Talking about freedom in the time of pandemic like this is not very smart thing to do, but right thing to crave, keep on dreaming and beg to CCP to liberate us from this insanity restrictions that they set upon us LOL! Almost 2 years of this lock down on a lot of things including free loving flying penis of us mongers LOL!

Once upon our time, our penis used to fly around the world and free, now we are all trapped mongers LOL![/QUOTE]LOL I agree with you on the current situation that CCP has put us in, but do you really think that things will change or improve unless most people do something different than how they followed current governments blindly? I think you are actually one of the few open minded and smart guys in this forum, so I'm curious to know what you think about how we get out of this mess of restrictions and lockdowns for Covid basic, delta, delta-plus and so on whatever new variants will be coming up in next months and years.

Just look at the elites and how they disregard their own stupid Covid rules, and this will tell you enough about this CaseDemic-PlanDemic-PingDemic-ScamDemic:

Obama partying in Martha's Vineyard, Newsom dining in the French Laundry restaurant, the G7 top brass meeting without masks and social distancing and even standing next to QE2 who is 95 years old and definitely (vaxxed or not) would belong in the HIGH risk category, DNC politicians like Rashida Tlaib who slammed Rand Paul, Newsom (again!) pulling his kids from a maskless summer camp while he himself advocates torturing young children with silly masks;.

Obama's Super-Spreader birthday party: [URL]https://www.wionews.com/world/watch-obama-dances-maskless-on-birthday-twitter-bursts-into-debate-404095[/URL].

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55168634[/URL]

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-edd-inmate-unemployment-fraud-scandal-french-laundry-embarassment[/URL]

Merkel, Marcon and von der Leyen meet QE2. Where are the masks? [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9750339/Angela-Merkel-meets-Queen-Windsor-Castle-German-chancellor-prepares-bow-out.html[/URL].

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9681417/World-leaders-accused-double-standards-ignoring-social-distancing-G7-summit.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-spotted-dancing-maskless-at-large-indoor-gathering-in-cdc-orange-zone[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gavin-newsom-son-summer-camp-removed-maskless-photos[/URL]

This list goes on and on and on of especially pro-lockdown and pro-mask leftwing party members who flaunt their own rules. The hypocrisy of the extreme left, just like in China or the Soviet Union.

Bonus link for the German viewers, an SPD party meeting without any social distancing or masks: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmw38kUVGdw[/URL].

[URL]https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article216730360/Empoerung-ueber-SPD-Wahlparty-ohne-Masken-in-Koeln.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2591249]You were the nurse who jabbed people to death?

Also, you can always blame it on a mirco-penis when people get long term ill from the vaccines:

[URL]https://youtu.be/TuEKb9Ktqhc[/URL][/QUOTE]More fabricated horse doo doo versus quantifiable measurement of your physically repulsive appearance and useless skillset. I'll take another win.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2591284]Then explain to me the 94% relative risk reduction. Which was true for a few months. However, my gut knew it was too good to be true and it would not last. Also, explain to me herd immunity. Even if 100% of the population is vaccinated, we still can't get herd immunity.

So how will we get out of this? Is this a forever pandemic? Will we take vaccine, wear mask and put up with restriction for the rest of our life?

Let hope and pray that the saponin adjuvant can stimulate a strong and lasting adaptive t-cell respond that can kill infected cell. Antibody titer alone is not going to do it. It not even about science any more. It is about hope and prayer. Time will tell.

Or we have a cheap drug that reduces the R0 below 1. No need for hope and prayer.[/QUOTE]There you go thinking binary again when it's all grey. Herd immunity still applies. Lower period of being contagious with lower viral loads in the vaccinated still contribute to herd immunity. Previously infected + vaccinated threshold may just be higher.

Polio is not 100% eliminated but we still consider polio vax a success. Same with Mumps, Measles, Rubella, etc.

Still no conclusive study on Ivermectin. If it ends up working out, awesome. Praising it while saying current vaccines aren't effective just makes things worst. Use your Ivermectin all you want, but spreading misinformation about other useful methods is detrimental to everyone.

Instead of downplaying vaccine effectiveness, you should be promoting more studies on Ivermectin. That's what a real altruistic man of science would do.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2591149]Talking about freedom in the time of pandemic like this is not very smart thing to do, but right thing to crave, keep on dreaming and beg to CCP to liberate us from this insanity restrictions that they set upon us LOL! Almost 2 years of this lock down on a lot of things including free loving flying penis of us mongers LOL!

Once upon our time, our penis used to fly around the world and free, now we are all trapped mongers LOL![/QUOTE]I visited Japan several times and saw so many beautiful girls, why are you desperately waiting to travel again to Europe, I am quite sure there are also a lot of sex possibilities in Japan.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2591354]Hospitals in New York were never overloaded. There were plenty of extra capacity.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-ap-top-news-international-news-weekend-reads-manhattan-e593ba57f37206b495521503d7e5e4c5[/URL]

Yes, correctly, hospitals in Italy were in fact overloaded. Why? The Italian medical doctors told everyone (also young people) who were infected to rush to the hospitals.

And they did!

The Italian hospitals DID NOT APPLY the TRIAGE priority, which has been well known since the Napoleonic wars. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage[/URL].

(In hell, Germans are policies and Italians are responsible for the organization).

Unsurprisingly, the Italian hospitals were overloaded.

I live in Sweden. The handling of Covid worked well here. And the Triage priority was indeed applied here.

Today I will go to the airport..[/QUOTE]No Sir the performance of Sweden is not good, 15000 deaths for 10 M people.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2591249]You were the nurse who jabbed people to death?

Also, you can always blame it on a mirco-penis when people get long term ill from the vaccines:

[URL]https://youtu.be/TuEKb9Ktqhc[/URL][/QUOTE]Talking about South Park, I think this is the same place where they make the (Sh) City-Vaccine: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOQozXwctc[/URL].

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2591422]Just look at the elites and how they disregard their own stupid Covid rules, and this will tell you enough about this CaseDemic-PlanDemic-PingDemic-ScamDemic:

Obama partying in Martha's Vineyard, Newsom dining in the French Laundry restaurant, the G7 top brass meeting without masks and social distancing and even standing next to QE2 who is 95 years old and definitely (vaxxed or not) would belong in the HIGH risk category, DNC politicians like Rashida Tlaib who slammed Rand Paul, Newsom (again!) pulling his kids from a maskless summer camp while he himself advocates torturing young children with silly masks;.

Obama's Super-Spreader birthday party: [URL]https://www.wionews.com/world/watch-obama-dances-maskless-on-birthday-twitter-bursts-into-debate-404095[/URL].

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55168634[/URL]

[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-edd-inmate-unemployment-fraud-scandal-french-laundry-embarassment[/URL]

Merkel, Marcon and von der Leyen meet QE2. Where are the masks? [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9750339/Angela-Merkel-meets-Queen-Windsor-Castle-German-chancellor-prepares-bow-out.html[/URL].

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9681417/World-leaders-accused-double-standards-ignoring-social-distancing-G7-summit.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Why are you exposing all these? The libtards on this forum won't change their mind, because it takes brain and guts to accept the fact that they were wrong in supporting left wing leaders in the first place. Not everyone is like me who was a registered democrat, realized and accepted that it was my mistake and switched political views based on facts and logic.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2591422]Just look at the elites..[/QUOTE]Who knew that politicians from left to right are corrupt and hypocrites?

In other news, a bear took a dump in the woods.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2591422]Just look at the elites and how they disregard their own stupid Covid rules, and this will tell you enough about this CaseDemic-PlanDemic-PingDemic-ScamDemic:.[/QUOTE]Well guess all you can do is sit down and take it, screaming at the top of your lungs just ends up on YouTube and people calling you 'Karen'. Its all politicized, every news channel feeding you a line that they are given from their government. The only President telling it like it is look at Duterte's interviews on YouTube, can't help but start rooting for the guy. Well at least the Gestapo haven't show up asking for your papers. Ohhhh wait, they are in Paris from the video below.

[URL]https://crazyshit.com/cnt/medias/94399-paris?fbclid=IwAR3-MAv8eooQ4n3gMCsdn7uHZGYfQ8E0V5tkIsGEeNV_R6nmcXlVtyvo1cg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjlCmdyesY&t=3s[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gino02;2591512]Why are you exposing all these? The libtards on this forum won't change their mind, because it takes brain and guts to accept the fact that they were wrong in supporting left wing leaders in the first place. Not everyone is like me who was a registered democrat, realized and accepted that it was my mistake and switched political views based on facts and logic.[/QUOTE]Well I am an anti-Trump conservative leaner who thinks masks and vaccines are pretty damn good.

I also don't register for parties because they both make you pick a team rather than using good judgement.

It takes more brain and guts to not need a "party" to validate your own opinions.

Left wing, right wing, libtard, CCP, racist innuendos blah blah blah. Mindless dribble.

I've heard a lot of racist stuff in my life from people of all backgrounds, black, white, red, brown, yellow. Nearly all of the time, it comes out of the mouths of people with low social value. Weirdos, uglies, lowly educated, culturally limited etc.

Can't recall a single instance when a pretty cool dude with social clout ever expressed anything racists outside of the funny joke amongst friends.

Same trend seems to apply.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2591454]There you go thinking binary again when it's all grey. Herd immunity still applies. Lower period of being contagious with lower viral loads in the vaccinated still contribute to herd immunity. Previously infected + vaccinated threshold may just be higher.

Polio is not 100% eliminated but we still consider polio vax a success. Same with Mumps, Measles, Rubella, etc.

Still no conclusive study on Ivermectin. If it ends up working out, awesome. Praising it while saying current vaccines aren't effective just makes things worst. Use your Ivermectin all you want, but spreading misinformation about other useful methods is detrimental to everyone.

Instead of downplaying vaccine effectiveness, you should be promoting more studies on Ivermectin. That's what a real altruistic man of science would do.[/QUOTE]Binary, Oh please, they should not have lie and manipulate the people.

You can get to herd immunity with polio, MMR. This vaccine suck and it is impossible to get to herd immunity. Israel vaccination rate is basically 100%, did they get the benefit of herd immunity. NO, they did not. It is not misinformation to logically work out what will happen next. Again, I really, really hope that I'm wrong. Unfortunately, I'm right so far.

Because we can't get to herd immunity, all of my concerns in past post still apply. Making this vaccine dangerous to humanity. Labeling me as "antivax" changes nothing.

You see no way out of this forever pandemic, do you. It is defeatist to take a course of action ending up with taking vaccine, lock down, wearing mask for the rest of our life. Sorry, I can't support that. Ivermectin give us a way out, but as I say, we are running out of time and this option will be lost forever. We need to use every tool we got, including vaccine and ivermectin. I will continue to say thing the way I see it. We get more support by not lying and manipulate the public.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2591572]I've heard a lot of racist stuff in my life from people of all backgrounds, black, white, red, brown, yellow. Nearly all of the time, it comes out of the mouths of people with low social value. Weirdos, uglies, lowly educated, culturally limited etc.

Can't recall a single instance when a pretty cool dude with social clout ever expressed anything racists outside of the funny joke amongst friends.

Same trend seems to apply.[/QUOTE]That is quite a list. Uglies? Really? Are we talking about physical beauty being correlated to racism now? Or is this some kinda inner beauty? Like the playboy playmate used to say in her video "I am pretty but I am really beautiful inside" (I always wondered if she was talking about deep inside her pussy).

And education? Is that education as denoted by a degree? Or some mythical "educated mind, being open and enlightened and all that"? If it is education as commonly denoted in society today, exactly how does getting a degree reduce one's racist inclinations, whatever that means? Does a BS reduce by 50% and then a Masters by another 15% and then finally a Ph. The. By 25% and a double PHD / MD clears it all up?

James Watson and William Shockley were both accused to be racist. Shockley invented the transistor which paved the way to modern technology as we know it today. Watson the DNA double helix and arguably the pioneer of modern medicine.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/01/13/dna-pioneer-james-watson-honors-racist-comments/2565503002/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Silicon-Valley-Shockley-racist-semiconductor-lab-13164228.php[/URL]

I don't know what comes from these generalizations. In this day and age, most people don't even agree on what racism even means. Two people from opposite ends could look at an incident or event or speech or something else and have one say "that is harmless" and the other "yup, deeply racist".

And "a pretty cool dude with social clout ever expressed anything racists" - perhaps they self censor because they no longer will be cool dudes and have social clout if they said something perceived to be racist. Let's face it. Cool dudes with social clout like to continue that way. Very few of them want to blow it if they can help it; they know how the game works these days. Occasionally an old tape surfaces and they are suddenly deeply apologetic to all the people they have hurt, especially the young ones. In reality, the only person hurt is the dude himself because he is no longer cool.

Finally, I don't know why this discussion belongs here but now I added to it, so there is that.