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Many thanks Kimino and indeed everybody else who have posted on the subject. I think that it does this Forum credit that we can exchange views, agree and disagree without it becoming a war of words.
My final word on the weekend. Can any anybody remind of the name of the Thai girl I saw? Prettiest of the current Thai bunch, great figure, quite a wide face with very slanted eyes, she could be Korea, was wearing a little black dress at the party. Cammy? Catty?
[QUOTE=Charlie123;1630783] I saw a few girls I recognise from the past including Gabizca (HUN), Mary (BUL), Martina (BUL), NINA (CZE) & Sophie (GRE / BUL), but the vast majority of the girls were new to me.
Ella (RUS), well known to almost everybody here I imagine.
Suzanna (HUN), late 20's, 5'8', slim, small natural titties, angular Slavic features[/QUOTE]Interesting report! Does this mean that most of the girls in Artemis are EE (but not many Romanians)? Years ago around 2008 I went there and was blown away by the number of beautiful blondes, I thought I was in heaven! But later around 2010 there were hardly any EE girls and a lot of darker ones, with some Romanians thrown in. Are things swinging back to the 2008 type crowd?
I made a comment about this song with lyrics that go "John Doe. Once you put your drinks on hold. John doe".
It had a moderately catchy tune I admit, but man, they kept playing that song repeatedly. In my 6 hours or so in Artemis on that night, they played it at least 20 times, may be more.
[QUOTE=Kimino;1630895]Ok, so I probably jumped in something that started in the past.
Anyways, don't know what the music argument was about, but IMHO the music right know is shit. At the time they would put some mainstream EDM at least in the night, at decent volumes. Nothing fantastic but at least club music that would keep you awake. In the last months the music has begun to be be really boring and tasteless.
I'm probably alone in this.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarineOne;1631208]Interesting report! Does this mean that most of the girls in Artemis are EE (but not many Romanians)? Years ago around 2008 I went there and was blown away by the number of beautiful blondes, I thought I was in heaven! But later around 2010 there were hardly any EE girls and a lot of darker ones, with some Romanians thrown in. Are things swinging back to the 2008 type crowd?[/QUOTE]I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.
Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.
[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1631296]I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.
Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.[/QUOTE]I agree to Suppenhuhn's figures in general, give or take a few percent. I would say the percentage of Germans has steadily increased until now and Romanians and Moldovans together surely are the second largest group. If you put everyone from Eastern or Southeastern Europe together then they will surely be a majority. I think its interesting as a general observation but don't forget some women will not be honest about their country of origin and ofc there are always reasons.
Among the women I like the most are a lot of Germans (despite the fact I had great experiences other nationalities too) but many of them. Maybe most. Have non German roots. Thats why I tend to include both countries when I describe them. Among the most gorgeous for my taste is Turkish German Aylin (Ayleen), Czech German Leura, maybe Middle Eastern or North African German (I am not sure in this case) Lia, just for example. Nationalities and ethnicities are of little relevance for me personally but as I pointed out earlier sometimes it makes things easier if you have a common language, heritage etc. Vegas, her Ukrainian German friend Chayenne and Russian German Mira who sadly was at Artemis only for a few weeks during summer I count as Germans mostly because they speak German as if it was their mother tongue. But as I said, in the end it is not relevant for me.
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Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.[/QUOTE]Yep, at least they are easy to spot. LOL.
Kimino.
[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1631296]I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.
Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.[/QUOTE]Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh!
On my recent visit to Artemis, there was one blonde who I thought was uniquely pretty. She had hair cut very short around the sides, but long in the front. She is thin, with a few tatoos, and had dark eyeliner around her eyes. She smoked constantly. Her overall look was very much "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. " I wish I asked her where she was from.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1631429]Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh![/QUOTE]There's also natural blondes romanians and many germans are not blonde. Then there's polish blonds, russians. Mission impossible.
Kimino.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1631429]Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh!
On my recent visit to Artemis, there was one blonde who I thought was uniquely pretty. She had hair cut very short around the sides, but long in the front. She is thin, with a few tatoos, and had dark eyeliner around her eyes. She smoked constantly. Her overall look was very much "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. " I wish I asked her where she was from.[/QUOTE]What was her name? If she is in her early twenties, around 5'7' tall, beautiful natural boobs and has a big tattoo showing a girl (a dragon tattoo I don't remember but that doesn't mean its not her) on one arm it maybe was Misha from Romania. She had taken a longer break and came back a few weeks ago. Mostly present during the night shift and hanging around with her friend Clara, also Romanian and very sweet, silicone boobs. I have zimmered her 2 or 3 times in the past and had a great GFE always. Spoke English with her because her she seemed to know only little German back then. She seems full of energy most of the time but rarely approaches the men which means you will most likely have to approach her.
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1631435]What was her name? If she is in her early twenties, around 5'7' tall, beautiful natural boobs and has a big tattoo showing a girl (a dragon tattoo I don't remember but that doesn't mean its not her) on one arm it maybe was Misha from Romania. She had taken a longer break and came back a few weeks ago. Mostly present during the night shift and hanging around with her friend Clara, also Romanian and very sweet, silicone boobs. I have zimmered her 2 or 3 times in the past and had a great GFE always. Spoke English with her because her she seemed to know only little German back then. She seems full of energy most of the time but rarely approaches the men which means you will most likely have to approach her.[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. At least to me, she looked very different from the other girls. Its takes a woman with guts to buzz cut the sides of her head. Especially if they are pretty.
Funny. If I head to guess, I would have said that she was German. Its the blonde hair, man. If they dye it, you can't tell if they are Romanian.
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1631376]I agree to Suppenhuhn's figures in general, give or take a few percent. I would say the percentage of Germans has steadily increased until now
Among the women I like the most are a lot of Germans[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering my question, Diplomat and Suppenhuhn! It may seem silly, but this is important to me and I am in the process of planning a trip right now.
I am totally astonished and intrigued to hear about the increasing number of Germans! What do you think accounts for this, a worsening German labour market?
In my 13 visits to FKKs, I can only remember meeting 2 Germans! (2008 to 2012).
[QUOTE=MarineOne;1631572]Thanks for answering my question, Diplomat and Suppenhuhn! It may seem silly, but this is important to me and I am in the process of planning a trip right now.
I am totally astonished and intrigued to hear about the increasing number of Germans! What do you think accounts for this, a worsening German labour market?
In my 13 visits to FKKs, I can only remember meeting 2 Germans! (2008 to 2012).[/QUOTE]We are only speaking about Artemis, I didn't say that its a general tendency in FKK Clubs. So please don't jump to conclusions about the whole scene. During my recent visits to a smaller FKK (Saunaclub Harem in Bad Lippspringe) nearly all of the women seemed to be Romanians or from other South European countries and it was really difficult to find a German among the roughly 25 women present both nights. As I said earlier it also depends on your definition. A woman with Turkish roots speaking German like a native and living in Germany for a long time I would describe as Turkish German or German and others may describe her as Turkish. Romanians sometimes say they are Italian, some Bulgarians say they are Greek (Greeks are very rare in the business) and sometimes Arab women say they are Turkish or Italian too. Some lie to protect themselves or their cover story (some Arabs and Iranians), others want to appear more exotic (being Romanian, Bulgarian or Turkish for example is not exotic in Germany because there are so many but being Greek, Italian or Arab might be exotic) and others don't want to be bothered by some of their countrymen.
So if you want to meet German women you will find a lot of them at Artemis. Other than that, I wouldn't get too much into all that and personally I would focus on your personal impression and sympathy before booking the woman rather than her nationality.
I didn't want to get too much into other topics in this thread but I hope this was a little helpful.
Diplomat.
[quote=diplomat;1631697]we are only speaking about artemis, i didn't say that its a general tendency in fkk clubs. so please don't jump to conclusions about the whole scene. during my recent visits to a smaller fkk (saunaclub harem in bad lippspringe) nearly all of the women seemed to be romanians or from other south european countries and it was really difficult to find a german among the roughly 25 women present both nights. as i said earlier it also depends on your definition. a woman with turkish roots speaking german like a native and living in germany for a long time i would describe as turkish german or german and others may describe her as turkish. romanians sometimes say they are italian, some bulgarians say they are greek (greeks are very rare in the business) and sometimes arab women say they are turkish or italian too. some lie to protect themselves or their cover story (some arabs and iranians), others want to appear more exotic (being romanian, bulgarian or turkish for example is not exotic in germany because there are so many but being greek, italian or arab might be exotic) and others don't want to be bothered by some of their countrymen.
so if you want to meet german women you will find a lot of them at artemis. other than that, i wouldn't get too much into all that and personally i would focus on your personal impression and sympathy before booking the woman rather than her nationality.
i didn't want to get too much into other topics in this thread but i hope this was a little helpful.
diplomat.[/quote]i would say half of german girls in artemis are always stationed in same spot:
when you walk into the main bar. the area of the bar facing directly to you when you just walk in are the area where german girls station themselves, usually few blondes, some dark brunette. some of them have famous abdel tattoo on them. i guess they are so called german sofa group on this forum.
other half of german girls are kinda rep001tered around, i feel they do not want to sit with german sofa group for some reason that i do not know for sure, but i guess mainly because gsg are not the best service provider and often do up selling, so i guess this other half of german girls do not want to convey such a image to the clients? or kinda feel not secure enough to hang out with abdel tattoo girls?
however, some of gsg girls are quite good looking and worth going ounce or twice to taste if you are in artemis for consecutive days, but i would not expect them to be best performer in the club. the good side is that they can take heavy pounding comparison to other girls in artemis. expect some up selling, but if you refuse they are not that pushy about it, this is just my experience.
[quote=mrho;1631975]i would say half of german girls in artemis are always stationed in same spot:
when you walk into the main bar. the area of the bar facing directly to you when you just walk in are the area where german girls station themselves, usually few blondes, some dark brunette. some of them have famous abdel tattoo on them. i guess they are so called german sofa group on this forum.
other half of german girls are kinda rep001tered around, i feel they do not want to sit with german sofa group for some reason that i do not know for sure, but i guess mainly because gsg are not the best service provider and often do up selling, so i guess this other half of german girls do not want to convey such a image to the clients? or kinda feel not secure enough to hang out with abdel tattoo girls?
however, some of gsg girls are quite good looking and worth going ounce or twice to taste if you are in artemis for consecutive days, but i would not expect them to be best performer in the club. the good side is that they can take heavy pounding comparison to other girls in artemis. expect some up selling, but if you refuse they are not that pushy about it, this is just my experience.[/quote]annika has left artemis a long time ago, nika and lulu will most likely not come back neither so there are no 'abdul' tattoo girls at artemis right now. if anyone knows another one with this tattoo in the club right now then please correct me.
of course what you say about good performers don't like being associated with bad performers sounds logical and i am sure it is correct sometimes. but on the other hand its difficult to make a generalisation about that because i know many girls where this is not the case and many have only one or two 'real friends' at artemis and those are the few they feel they can trust and won't have any issues with over customers, money or whatever.
in my view, the smarter and the more professional the woman is, the more she knows she can be more successful not hanging out with her group so much and not relying on anyone else but herself.
but i believe you are correct that mostly the girls seem to have favorite places and sometimes it reminds me a little bit of strassenstrich areas like oranienburger strasse where i witnessed a few years ago what can happen if a girl tries to occupy a part of the street that was claimed by someone else.
german sofa group gsg in this forum seems to be a vague description of a big group of women hanging around the famous sofa and also to the short side of the bar opposite to it. it was home of the famous german austrian abdul team but also for most of the hamburg girls and a few other germans. stella, yara, giuliana, nadja, jana, michelle, blair, megan, alektra, aylin, lia, donna, hadisse, just to name a few. if you pass that area and move along the window side of the bar you will find other germans, mostly from berlin but also other cities like kitty, jamie, leura, alexis, toni, valeska, xenia, madlen, manja, etc. if you are there on a regular basis or if you have a great memory you can surely close your eyes and do that kind of 'virtual memory tour' around the place and you might see that maybe a majority of the women have favorite places and many are hanging around in groups.
i would also say that most of the time the girls are hanging around with others from the same country. of course some also know each other from other clubs they worked before.
cheers.
diplomat.
[QUOTE=Kimino;1622769]Closed the dances with Sissy, yes again. She is also leaving in a weeks time, coming back after 3 weeks If I understood correctly...[/QUOTE]Anyone knows if she's back?
I'm planning a quick visit to Berlin next week.
Thanks