Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=GoldenSombrero;3073498]I have had a range of successes and abject failures through Seeking in Mexico City. But there was one experience I had in June that makes me realize I need to keep coming back.

Some of the best pure sexual experiences have come through Seeking. Remember Penthouse Forum? I have a story that is just as unbelievable as that, but. As all the writers in that forum used to write. This actually happened.

I had this 22 year old girl meet me at my hotel bar in Mexico City. She arrived in a super short skirt, but a frumpy gray sweatshirt. Her hair was a mess but long and black. When we sat down for a drink I could tell she had been smoking weed.

But she was gorgeous. A big bright smile and very friendly. And those legs barely covered by the skirt. Well I was game to try.

After a couple of drinks we went up to my room. She was all over me quickly and we shed the clothes. Within a minute she was naked, I had her on her back with legs open and started DATY. She was so damn responsive. And in a minute she said, "I want to squirt. " I pulled back a little and she rubbed herself off for 30 seconds before she gushed. A virtual geyser, drenching me.

Then it was my turn and she swallowed me whole, some intense DT, spitting saliva all over me. This went on for at least 10 minutes before I flipped her on her back with her head hanging over the edge. This allowed me to penetrate deeper into her throat. She took this like a champ.

But the truly amazing thing happened next. As I was in her mouth and throat, in and out, she was rubbing herself off again. And squirted again while her throat was literally filled with me. WTF?

We had sex rather loudly and she was moaning so loud while in doggy that the people in the room next door started pounding on the wall for us to keep quiet.

I was almost finished anyways so I pulled out of her prepping to cum. To end the session she said something no other Seeking girl has said to me: "Cum in my mouth!

At this point I could not believe any of this myself. But she opened her mouth while I spilled it onto her tongue which she showed to me, then swallowed.

We chatted for a while after and I suggested to her she could make a true living out of Seeking but she would need to show up not stoned, dressed well, and with makeup on. And while she enthusiastically agreed I am sure she is still out there, a true diamond in the rough.[/QUOTE]And there it is! Why all the bullshit is worth it. The one priceless gem in the massive pile of bullshit.

I found an astounding gem in São Paulo. The report on that is buried amongst my trilogy penthouse novella in São Paulo thread. But will distill out my "seeking" experience and repost here.

In Brazil there is a Seeking clone called Meu Patricinio. As far as an app, it's 90% a copy, with some sucky UX here and there, but at least 10 X as many girls in Sao Paulo and Rio than Seeking offers. Just stunningly target rich. I started about 4-6 weeks ahead of time, not because that's advisable but because it's fun finding and vetting the girls.

I narrowed things down to three girls and booked dates with them for a few weeks out. One ended up just kinda fading and I had too much other sex going on to bother, one was kinda mechanical, which is not what I come to Brazil for. And one was a fucking, star spangled, gold plated, grand slam home run. Her name was Hailey and I almost knew from the starting chat that she was going to be great. Perfect English not using translate, witty, just the whole package. And a cute pixie gym rat to boot!

Oddly we never had the price discussion. I thought about bringing it up several times but got the vibe that money for sex was uncomfortable for her and so I let it slide and played by ear. I am super glad I did because at lunch (which was amazing) she says "you know most of the girls on MP are prostitutes and that's definitely not me" So again I'm wondering where this is going but she is 100% genuine and transparent with me.

Back at the room it is super comfortable. A memorable moment is when we are face to face kissing she tells me I look better than my profile picture. This made my day because my picture is a morph between me and Brad Pitt! Hahaha she coulda left then and I'the be happy. 😂.

But it was ON and it was passionate and sexy. She can truly get off in DATY and rides like a blue ribbon cowgirl. She had multiple Os on top and rode so hard and long she was literally sweating! Actually that was sexy as fuck. Even tho her BBBJ skills were best of the trip, I finished CIP, which I prefer if I can get it.

And here is the amazing part. No $$ exchanged! FREE! I offer to pay for her Uber (over an hour) and she does accept that. But that's it. (I come to find out later that she comes from money and has a successful career on her own.) So I see her off, but make plans to meet again the following week. She has a real job and so there are limited times we can meet. But we text back and forth like BFGF and set a date a week later. We are going to do dinner this time.

I've set the date at Seen (amazing vibey rooftop bar / restaurant) because I do love it there and she's never been. I get there around 7:30 and it's not hard to get a table. But by 8:00 it's packed. So def get there early if you don't want to wait. She is late of course, per the Brasileira playbook. But this gives me time to watch the most hilarious Meu Patricinio date unfolding next to me. Clueless American on a 100% Google Translate date with a hottie half his age. He is trying to speak some Porto but he is impossibly bad. She's just being sweet as can be. It's just so funny to watch it "out of body" and he's waaaaay worse than me but still going to fuck!

A moment before she arrives, she texts and says "can I kiss you when I arrive? Is it ok to kiss in public?" And given the green light she plants an amazing "I missed you" kiss on me right at the table (love that shit). The food is amazing as always and she is so tickled that I am giving her a tour of the best spots in her own city!

Speaking of which, from here we bounced to Punch Bar, a tiny little Japanese Craft cocktails bar near Paulista. As usual there is a closed sign because they are full. But I know to knock and inquire and sure enough we are able to get in 5 minutes later. We get the big table at the front (only one table!) and feel like royalty. Of course the drinks are great and she is over the moon being treated like a princess at exclusive venues like these.

Surely we look ridiculous but we make out like drunken teenagers a few times over the next hour right there at the table. Fuuuuuck she kisses good. After our second or third round of kissing we can't take it anymore so we bounce to the hotel. My chat history says it's 12:15 AM by then so we had an almost 5 hour date and haven't even fucked yet! That's how amazing this vibe is.

The fucking is just off the charts. You know when you just have chemistry with someone and everything just clicks and you just can't get enough? That's this girl. She has the most perfect gym rat body but with that perfect firm / squishy Brasileira ass and the most lovely bcups with those tan lines. Watching her ride cowgirl is a spectacle burned forever in my mind. And her BJ is the best of the trip — and I had some good ones. I've only had two girls before ever who could deep throat and then lightly touch your balls with their tongue while deep throating. Amazing. Well she could do one better — get all the way deepthroat and then go around the world on your balls with her tongue. And she did it A LOT. WTF? Unbelievable.

Well after a ton of fucking and another 4-5 orgasms with her riding, we finish with a CIM and she keeps going and swallows every drop. We crash and snuggle and pillow talk. But before you know it we start kissing again and that lights the fire again. Despite much fucking and BJ I can't pull the rabbit out of the hat this time, but we clock in at nearly two hours of going at it! What a wildcat. Totally free again! And we make plans for lunchtime 2 days hence, on my checkout day. Fortunately, I have 4 PM checkout so it should be fine.

I don't know how I muster the energy after the prior night with my existing GF and two very hot Scandallo girls, but I get ready for the tigress. She is quite late and I have a 4 PM checkout limiting the amount of time we can have. Fortunately she has her priorities straight and says "ok let's skip lunch and save that time. I'll just come to your room. " Still can't believe she's going to uber an hour just to fuck me again. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 😂.

When Hailey arrives out front, I am again struck by how stunning she is. Not in a statuesque model kind of way, but in a fit gym girl kind of way. She's wearing daisy dukes with heels that show off her amazingly fit legs and a blousy white crop top. Her cascades of black Brasileira hair are bouncing as she walks in like she owns the place.

Up to the room and a quick stop in the restroom and it's ON. We start by kissing standing up. Even though she's short, in heels she can look up to her tall gringo and make out like nobody's business. All brasileiras can kiss. But something about her kisses is so urgent and hungry and I know she's getting wet downstairs.

As the passion swells she pulls off her top and reveals that she's not even wearing a bra. Her perfect Bcups sit up so high, there is just no need. I bend and put a nipple in my mouth. Sucking and licking and making them perky and hard she moans and I know she can't wait much longer.

She gets my pants off and pushes me into a seated position at the edge of the bed to start her legendary BJ. Thank god I've been fucking up a storm, including and and the two Scan hotties less than 12 hours ago, because I'the blow a load in the first two minutes otherwise. But in my condition she blows me for a solid 10 minutes before we change position.

We move up on the bed and she wants me to fuck right now, laying on her back and spreading her legs invitingly. So I dive right in. She's super tight at first but loosens a bit as she gets hornier and hornier. We flip to cowgirl and it's her turn to crank out those five or so orgasms she is known for. Watching her fuck me and sweat and strain, tits bouncing or tight against my chest is the sexiest thing. No problem staying hard but not going to cum.

I fuck her some in doggie but then pull her to the end of the bed on her back for DATY. She loves the way I do that and I let her control a lot of the action by letting her hump my tongue and bottom lip against her clit. I guess we did good because she about broke my glasses. I had to take them off when the thigh clamps started or they were a goner!

I let her rest about a minute at the edge of the bed, my hard cock in hand, ready for what's next. And what's next is The Steve. I plunge in standing at the edge of the bed and start a good pounding. There is a mirror over by the desk where you can see the action and seeing me impaling this petite hottie is mind blowing. Another visual burned in my mind is her perfect tits with tan lines bouncing up and down vigorously while I pump away. Memories!

We end up with me on my back for an amazing CIM finish and then cuddle and pillow talk a bit. It's hot in the bedroom though so we adjourn to the couch in the other part of the suite where it's cooler. We both snooze a bit intertwined and it's so cute she is getting little involuntary movements in her sleep like puppies do. LOL.

Well I won't bore you with the rest of the details except to say that kissing her is like an On / Off switch for both of us. So when we start that, I get hard and she gets wet and the passion reignites and round two is on! I fuck her some in the couch in doggie looking out at the city beyond. But we go back to the bed to get serious and close things out.

After sex we bop downstairs to checkout and have a final fairwell lunch. We share an amazing cheeseburger and do a lot of eye gazing. I mean who the fuck does that. We're like in a little movie script about star struck teenagers. LOL. Alas I must let her go to avoid the heinous SP traffic. But wow. Going to repeat some time somewhere.

And once again Seeking (or its Brazilian equivalent) delivers. Yes, its a fuckton of work. Yes, sometimes there are duds. But for true "instant girlfriend" experience, there is nothing better. 100% dig this girl and will definitely see her again in Sao Paulo or fly her somewhere. Total goddess and gem.

I had membership time remaining after my trip to Colombia, so I checked out the local scene and was reminded that Seeking is such a big downgrade in the US. American profiles are just mental diarrhea. Below average women get attention on other dating sites, but it's really pathetic to see them demand the world here. Some even expect money just for meeting them, no sexual activity at all. Then you have the women that have been on the site for years and are still looking. I come back to the site because it works, they come back to the site because it hasn't worked yet. Maybe it's because I have no desire to be a sugar daddy, but if I have to pay for a woman, why wouldn't I hook up with multiple women instead of one? I had too many single mothers try to message me too.

[QUOTE=Ruch888;3071537]Hey Gents,

Need some tips on Sugaring in London.

1. Average PPM to consider?

2. How are you weeding out the profiles?

[/QUOTE]500 in London. Maybe 400.

No magic bullet to weed out. Just text and see how it goes. Experience helps.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3073543] Oddly we never had the price discussion. I thought about bringing it up several times but got the vibe that money for sex was uncomfortable for her and so I let it slide and played by ear.

And here is the amazing part. No $$ exchanged! FREE! I offer to pay for her Uber (over an hour) and she does accept that. [/QUOTE]How did that play out? You put cash in her purse and she took it out and left it on the table?

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;3073584]How did that play out? You put cash in her purse and she took it out and left it on the table?[/QUOTE]

I did not try to slip her any $$ as the vibe was she clearly didn’t want to feel like she was taking $$ for sex. Clearly this ended up being the right move since she came back to see me twice more with $0 on offer.

She DID let me pay for her Uber. I said "at least let me pay for your uber" and she said "I won't say no" and I gave her cash for both ways. But beyond that no $$$ exchanged any of the three times we saw each other. Last day I offered to take her shopping but she said she'the prefer to beat the traffic (took her two hours to get home the first night!

I still can't honestly believe it but she seems to really just enjoy going out to dinner and drinks and fucking me. The way she looks at me doesn't feel in any way fake. She seems to genuinely find me very attractive. 😱.

Haven't found a hidden agenda here either. She is eyes wide open that I have other GFs worldwide (does not know I'm seeing others in SP) and does not seek nor want a local BF or husband. Just good clean casual fun. Why can't all girls be this way?

Next time I see her I will def try to "help her" with some expense or buy her something nice. I almost feel guilty. But she's been driving the no-pay agenda not me.

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;3073584]How did that play out? You put cash in her purse and she took it out and left it on the table?[/QUOTE]I got free play with a Brazilian girl when I was down there.

I booked a trip way in advance; flights tend to be cheaper when you buy tickets multiple months prior. Anyway, my Seeking membership was about to expire, so I was just messaging any many girls as possible in the area I was going to, so long as they were not ugly. I spent about 4 months talking to this girl over Telegram. We talked about various aspects of life, as well as what kinds of things we could do while I was down there. Go on a hike, to go the beach, etc. Sex did in fact come up, but money never did. It just wasn't something she chose to bring up. Even on the day that I flew home, she did not bring up money.

That being said, she basically got to do whatever she wanted for free for an entire week. Never had to worry about paying for extravagant meals, transportation, entertainment costs, alcohol of various kinds, anything really. Knowing what I know now about the situation, I'm 99% sure there's no way she could have afforded all those things on her own. So to her, maybe all that was worth pounding away at me every night. She liked being on top.

In traditional prostitution, if you give a girl cash, she can use it to pay for a Gucci handbag, rather paying for a dish at an expensive restaurant while having dinner with you. That being said, she didn't spend a single BRL the entire time I was with her. In fact, the only time she ever paid for anything was when she took a rideshare from her duplex to my Airbnb when it was our first time meeting each other in person. Ever since that moment, the only other thing I saw her pay for was when she went inside a supermarket to buy some household supplies. And really I think the only reason she paid for that was because I was waiting in the car at the time rather than going in the store with her. It's not like she offered to contribute to a small expense here or there; I literally just paid for everything else.

But, as I said, she never saw any cash. I didn't give her any coins either That being said, she openly admitted to having some mental health issues. Nothing I ever saw that was alarming, except for her incessant consumption of alcohol. But to this very day I don't know what was going on inside her head. She has a tendency to change her mind frequently, but I've never seen any signs of psychotic behavior, so at the end of the day, I have no complaint over a year after seeing her.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3073585] does not know I'm seeing others in SP [/QUOTE]Meant to ask, how do you maintain the schedule you described in the SP forum -- clubs until 5 am, catch breakfast at 10, with alcohol and sex several times a day for 10 days? Was your stamina always like that since you were young?

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;3073908]Meant to ask, how do you maintain the schedule you described in the SP forum -- clubs until 5 am, catch breakfast at 10, with alcohol and sex several times a day for 10 days? Was your stamina always like that since you were young?[/QUOTE]That's a damn good question. I can only conclude that I got dealt a pretty good genetic hand and am a trained professional on a closed course. 😂.

For context I am over 60 now and to be running the table at this age is goddamn lucky and astonishing to me. To your question about was I always like this I'the say I DONT KNOW. I got married early and didn't start seeing more than 10 girls a year until I was mid fifties! I also had ZERO game until then but feel my game is pretty top notch now, thru lots of research (Nampa) and practice (Seeking).

I suppose there are three major components to burning the candle as I do:

1 Desire. This I get genetically. A friend said I should get my testosterone tested and I test as high for a 20 year old. 😱 So that explains my insatiable sex drive.

2 Erection. I take 10 MG Cialis day 1 to kick things off and then 5 MG from time to time as I feel I'm flagging or 10 MG if I feel I need a restart. This definitely works. Makes it harder to cum tho and I am often perilously drunk so cumming can sometimes be hard. Most Brazilian girls can get me off regardless, but at my age and activity level you also become comfortable packing it in sometimes.

3 Sleep. I don't fully understand this but I am generally OK on 5 hrs a day when I'm running the table. But a nice 12 HR reset is welcome. I know my body must be exhausted because in Brazil I drink the Gin Tropical which is gin and Red Bull tropical. I might have five cans of Red Bull (maybe more!) during a big Scandallo night but when I hit the bed I am lights out in 2 minutes or less! I have always been blessed with ability to sleep anytime anywhere.

Anyhow it just kinda works for me. I did sleep good ten hour sleeps plus naps when I got home!

Ps I cant say Im in top physical shape but I do lift a few times a week and have maintained an imperfect but non-dad-bod. Im sure this helps also since Im not carrying extra pounds. Honestly I do it for the girls. So my sex life is driving my health!!! I often lose weight on these trips, despite dining out and eating heavily. I call it the “fuck and dance” diet. High recommend. 😂

I was traveling to Boston recently and I see why you guys are frustrated with Seeking. OMG. What a slog. Just when you find someone good then they fuck you over. Here's how it went down.

Of course I contacted and briefly chatted with maybe 10 girls over a four week period. Actually the first one went well. Maybe too well. She easily agreed 500 which seems hard to get in big cities theses days.

Well there was a reason for that. Because a few days before the date she says do I want to have her send some pictures ahead of time. This is of course a play for suckers and I decline. She says no problem. But the next day she says her car insurance bill is killing her and can I help? No. Next.

Great chat with the next girl. Lots of drunken texting both ways. Really fun. I lightly stalk her because she sends a pic at a bar and it has a QR code in the frame. So I know she's at a bar in Providence RI. Oooh that doesn't seem good. Sure enough, the next day (day before our meetup) she says "oh I am in providence. Can you come there instead?" No. Next.

Ok third strike. To keep it brief she asked 1000. No. Fuck off. Goddamn was sooooo frustrated. And can see why many guys give up. Well there was a silver lining — read on.

The prior week when I was finding it frustrating, I scoured my phone contacts for "SA Boston" because that's how I store girls I've spoken with. 90% of them I don't recall, but one stood out because we discussed wine and she was a Harvard girl which is exceedingly rare. I remembered talking to her last fall, so I sent her a message. But no reponse.

Well at that point I'the pretty much given up and accepted a lonely night in boston. But wouldn't you know — the day I am set to travel, Harvard girl pings me back and says she remembers me!

Our conversation had been pretty non-sexual last fall and frankly I was fine with just dinner company and told her that most of my meets end in the bedroom but I was also ok with just s nice dinner. And she says she'the love to join me for dinner that night and open to intimacy if we like each other. Ok good deal and we set a date for that night.

I have an ISG friend who has been slaying girls on the west coast at 300-400 a night which is unheard of. But his approach is to not agree a price up front but just charm the pants off them in person and they've been accepting 300-400. Ok. Let me just play this by ear and see how it goes.

In Nampa (Japanese pickup game) they have a term "outcome independence" meaning you are not wedded to a particular outcome. This leads to extreme confidence and girls vibe with that. That was absolutely the case here — I was going to be fine with a nice dinner only. But if it became more that's awesome too.

We meet up at an Italian place and she bops in on time in some black jeans and sneakers and a black lace top. Not super sexy but enough to say she has skin in the game. Dinner is absolutely amazing. The conversation is highly intellectual and engaging. This is not your regular seeking girl. Yes she's a hottie but fucking smart as fuck also. Really refreshing.

We were having such fun just talking and laughing I didn't want to just go fuck. So as dinner closed I said do you want to bounce to a bar and she was down. She's a quite direct girl and says "maybe there is one at your hotel?" Hahaha. Love that and she's right. There is a super vibey bar in my hotel so we walk there.

As we are leaving the restaurant she grabs my hand. LOVE that. A girl that takes some initiative! And off we go for a 15 minute hand-in-hand walk back to my place.

The hotel bar is one of those dark wood and dim lights kinda places. Very romantic. We both get espresso martinis and before long we are gazing at each other and holding hands. I'm wondering if this is going to be a freebie! (Had one recently in Brazil!) but no such luck. Nonetheless the conversation around this is easy and comfortable.

She says "maybe we should discuss logistics" and I ask her what she means. She says you know — like condoms and all that. Oooh not sure I like the sound of that. After a beat to think how I want to proceed, I say well I don't really enjoy a blowjob with condom. And she laughs like I've said the most ludicrous thing and says of course not. Love that attitude.

Then I say for sex I want you to be comfortable so we can go either way but I am STD free and have had a vasectomy. She says oh that's great because I'm not on birth control. But I trust you, so sounds good! Yay! So now I am minutes away from bareback with my Harvard hottie.

Then she says there's usually a gift associated with a date like this and I ask her what she is thinking. She says 700. And I say I've never done more than 500 (true) and will that work and she says fine quite quickly. I am pretty sure if we had done this by text it coulda gone the other way so I may do this "table negotiation" more often, as she was pretty well invested at this point and truly seemed a bit smitten.

Up in the room we put on some music and dance a bit but before long we are making out. She's a voracious kisser and as I massage her nice BCups I can tell from her body language that she wants to fuck bad!

We adjourn to the bed and lose various pieces of clothing as we make out. Deep sensual urgent kissing. For the first order of business she goes down on me. It's pretty OK but nothing more. But I direct her to BLS and it gets better.

At various times over the next two hours (yep you read that right) I get a little soft and need BJ to perk me up. So at some point I show her harmonica and she starts doing that. But then she starts improvising and doing a harmonica slide but taking the head in her mouth when she gets to the top of the slide. And a little mouth pump on the shaft and then repeat the harmonica. Omfg. This is really good and never fails to get me hard from then onward.

Twice over the course of things I do DATY and absolutely rock her world. She starts twitching and convulsing pretty darn quickly and that's a theme throughout the night. On the first DATY I give her a crashing and thrashing O.

We end up fucking a lot in all the positions but there are three things I remember most. The first is that even though she is wet as hell and I've been finger fucking her she is soooooo tight to start. It literally takes a few minutes of easing in, with her thighs clamped around me to prevent overly quick entry. It's both maddening and very sexy because I want to be in there but going to respect her pace. So when we finally get me all the way in I really go to town! (Later she says it's been a long time since she's had sex and I believe it.).

The second is about midway through. I have her in doggie at the edge of the bed and she's getting off pretty good. I decide I want to hold her hands behind her back in a real dominant move. Certainly all the girls I've been with in Brazil have been there done that. But not this Harvard coed.

I reach down and grab her left arm and pull it behind her back while continue to fuck her. And then I reach for her right hand and go to pull it back and she resists some. She eventually lets me have it but rears up vertical as I pull it behind her. She really has no idea what I am up to! But I gently push her face back down to the bed and hold her arms behind her back and fuck her really good. She's going batshit crazy and later says she loved being dominated that way. That was super fun.

The other thing I remember but it wasn't really a highlight was twice I was fucking her in mish and going for the finish. Really feeling the build. But then she orgasmed and went stiff as a board and clamped her legs closed. So now I can only get halfway in and out and the feeling faded. A little frustrating but when you can cause a full on body clenching orgasm from fucking, it's deeply satisfying.

We do end up fucking and sucking for a full two hours with only maybe a five minute break. At one point she says I'm like a stallion and it makes me smile. Yes maam. Eventually we close it out with me on shaft and her on balls (had a big shot at the AMP the previous day and couldn't quite get there from BJ or fucking). A nice shot and a satisfied smile from her.

We have some lovely pillow talk about what a sham monogamy is and then she grabs an uber. Truly quite a night especially for a last minute find. It doesn't seem possible to put a big brain in such a pretty and nice girl. Quite the unicorn. Definitely repeat.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074736] But then she orgasmed and went stiff as a board and clamped her legs closed. So now I can only get halfway in and out and the feeling faded. [/QUOTE]Clampers are like that. Some do it involuntarily. Lube or baby oil on your hips or on the inside of her thighs will loosen the grip.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3073587]I got free play with a Brazilian girl when I was down there. [/QUOTE]It's very easy to hook up in Brazil. Before I started paying for it I used to do pick up. Street, shops, beach, bookstores, sometimes clubs and bars. My quickest Hi-to-fuck was in Brazil in under 5 minutes. Picked her on the beach outside my cottage. There were others too.

It's also easy to not pay a girl who doesn't know how it's supposed to work or if she's not playing with a full deck. Goes without saying that I don't do that.

I've taken girls on trips where they seemed genuinely surprised to get a cash present at the end. But I never had one actually leave the money on the table that's why I asked.

One of my sugar babes just got arrested for killing a guy in her apartment. I have been to that apartment so many times. Sure got spooked. She is the most educated of my three babes. Has a law degree. Her service was not as good as the other two but got the job done. It must have been over money. I pay these girls the agreed price. I'll just not see them again if its not worth it.

At Tugrid- yikes that's messy, I'm also of the same opinion I express my disappointment never anger and don't repeat the girl.

At NFB- also they are very passionate, something I miss while I'm doing p4 p in europe the passion levels are low.

At Steve- good lord man, I have read all your posts and I'm sure you got your favorites but the harvard hottie has to be my top pick. To me a 7/10 smart girl with good communication is more attractive than a 10/10 girl. And to get that for 500 $ is a great deal, hell if I could magically buy experiences from the store of god I would shell out 1000 $ for the same in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE=Gsi2810;3074847]At NFB- also they are very passionate, something I miss while I'm doing p4 p in europe the passion levels are low. [/QUOTE]But there's many Brazileiras working in Europe, esp London. You find they're less passionate here than back home?