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As an American who won't be able to visit the UK anytime soon, I'm very jealous of the reviews I'm seeing on the Diva website! I would be going through them right now starting with Melty and then proceeding to fuck Tiramisu (who was Noleta's room mate so I met her in person after fucking her), and a few of the new girls who have popped up. If you're in London, this is one American who is very envious of you. I hope you're having fun!

--Atanion.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2474518]As an American who won't be able to visit the UK anytime soon, I'm very jealous of the reviews I'm seeing on the Diva website! I would be going through them right now starting with Melty and then proceeding to fuck Tiramisu (who was Noleta's room mate so I met her in person after fucking her), and a few of the new girls who have popped up. If you're in London, this is one American who is very envious of you. I hope you're having fun!

--Atanion.[/QUOTE]Hello Atanion,

As a native of London I am quite surprised by your statement. I would have believed that the USA is swarming with escorts, albeit a bit expensive, but I am sure you can pick up a good one for 150-250 dollars.

Surely cities like New York and LA (if you live there) would be a monger's paradise, so much options.

I have been checking out these channels on YouTube.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52uxW9sdZ8[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oh6K9KTyFk[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmrixaWI9gA[/URL]

I am curious about traveling to LA to sample some delicious black and Latino girls, but I know mongering in the USA, especially with street girls bring a whole load of drama, but they do look tempting.

One of the benefits about living in the EU was that you didn't have to travel abroad to find girls anymore, they all came over here. This has now been ruined by the Brexiters, but that's a story for another time.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2474648]Hello Atanion,

As a native of London I am quite surprised by your statement. I would have believed that the USA is swarming with escorts, albeit a bit expensive, but I am sure you can pick up a good one for 150-250 dollars.

Surely cities like New York and LA (if you live there) would be a monger's paradise, so much options.

I have been checking out these channels on YouTube.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52uxW9sdZ8[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oh6K9KTyFk[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmrixaWI9gA[/URL]

I am curious about traveling to LA to sample some delicious black and Latino girls, but I know mongering in the USA, especially with street girls bring a whole load of drama, but they do look tempting.

One of the benefits about living in the EU was that you didn't have to travel abroad to find girls anymore, they all came over here. This has now been ruined by the Brexiters, but that's a story for another time.[/QUOTE]Haha. Clearly you have been seeing some fake news! The US is HORRIBLE for girls on a worldwide scale. Minimum for a "pretty girl" for an hour is $400 and up. Big cities are $500/ HR and up. Plenty of girls asking $800/ HR and up (I don't use them). Plus since it's illegal. So hooking up safely requires cloak and dagger. I have P411 which makes it super safe but most guys have to roll without that. That's why Seeking Arrangement has become so popular. Huge amount of work but best option in US.

Would fly to London and see Melty or Fortune or Cambria or several others in a heartbeat if I could. Probably cheaper including round trip ticket! Open your gates London!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2474796]Haha. Clearly you have been seeing some fake news! The US is HORRIBLE for girls on a worldwide scale. Minimum for a "pretty girl" for an hour is $400 and up. Big cities are $500/ HR and up. Plenty of girls asking $800/ HR and up (I don't use them). Plus since it's illegal. So hooking up safely requires cloak and dagger. I have P411 which makes it super safe but most guys have to roll without that. That's why Seeking Arrangement has become so popular. Huge amount of work but best option in US.

Would fly to London and see Melty or Fortune or Cambria or several others in a heartbeat if I could. Probably cheaper including round trip ticket! Open your gates London![/QUOTE]I pay on average $300 for escorts who come to my place in NYC. The quantity is there but the quality is not so good, the blacks and Latinos are somewhat similar to that in the videos and the whites also, evidently not on par with what one can get at German FKKs. SA and non pros have not worked for me. Hookas all the way!

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2474648]
As a native of London I am quite surprised by your statement. I would have believed that the USA is swarming with escorts, albeit a bit expensive, but I am sure you can pick up a good one for 150-250 dollars.

Surely cities like New York and LA (if you live there) would be a monger's paradise, so much options.

[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, [B]Penetrator[/B], America is far from a monger's paradise. Like [B]Steve9696[/B] said, the fact that prostitution is illegal in 99.6% of the United States means that both sides of the transaction view each other with distrust and caution. Prostitution operates as an underground market in the States so there's no quality control and opaque pricing. It's easy to spend hundreds on a girl that would be considered cute at best. A lot of American escorts are downright ugly and still expect a couple of hundred dollars. It's ridiculous.

The lowest risk option that's widely available is going to a strip club and seeing if the girl is cool with "extras". But, that's usually nothing more than a hand job or oral sex. You might be able to slip a finger into her pussy or ass, but full on sex usually risks arrest or exorbitant prices.

I've thought about SA, but I can't do the time commitment. I need to quickly find beautiful girls and fuck them. If I want to invest a lot of time into getting pussy, then I can just date civilians.

So, if you have access the the European market, you have an embarrassment of riches. I can't wait to go back so I can get some high quality pussy for a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2474918]I pay on average $300 for escorts who come to my place in NYC. The quantity is there but the quality is not so good, the blacks and Latinos are somewhat similar to that in the videos and the whites also, evidently not on par with what one can get at German FKKs. SA and non pros have not worked for me. Hookas all the way![/QUOTE]That sounds like a reasonable price to pay once you vet a few options. What service do you use for these $300 escorts? Is it only available in NYC? Do you know of any nationwide services?

[QUOTE=Atanion;2474948]Unfortunately, [B]Penetrator[/B], America is far from a monger's paradise. Like [B]Steve9696[/B] said, the fact that prostitution is illegal in 99.6% of the United States means that both sides of the transaction view each other with distrust and caution. Prostitution operates as an underground market in the States so there's no quality control and opaque pricing. It's easy to spend hundreds on a girl that would be considered cute at best. A lot of American escorts are downright ugly and still expect a couple of hundred dollars. It's ridiculous.

The lowest risk option that's widely available is going to a strip club and seeing if the girl is cool with "extras". But, that's usually nothing more than a hand job or oral sex. You might be able to slip a finger into her pussy or ass, but full on sex usually risks arrest or exorbitant prices.

I've thought about SA, but I can't do the time commitment. I need to quickly find beautiful girls and fuck them. If I want to invest a lot of time into getting pussy, then I can just date civilians.

So, if you have access the the European market, you have an embarrassment of riches. I can't wait to go back so I can get some high quality pussy for a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]I have been done 80-90% of my mongering in Europe, mainly Prague, London, and Germany. You could not be more correct. Attempting to have the same kind of fun and experiences in the US is damn near impossible. The amount you pay never quite matches up with the quality.

When it comes to SA in the US, my experience has been ok, but not as good as in Europe. There is a bit of a time commitment with SA for sure. For me, it's not the same degree of commitment as a regular girl and we both go out knowing exactly what the goal is for the end of the night. There are no misunderstandings, or multiple dates (without sex) with hundreds of text messages and the general dating game. The weeding out of flakes, fakes, pros, and scared girls can take time, but it's so worth it when compared to a $300/ HR low-medium quality escort that will probably be written off as a mediocre experience. Who the hell want to constantly roll the dice for a bad or mediocre experience?? Preferentially, I need more than 1 hour, GFE, possible overnight, and a non pro vibe without the work associated with regular girls.

There is a great scene in London, though I have done most of my recent activity in Prague. I've had the most fun with SA and karmatantric. I envy the guys that have free rein over there right now.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2474948]Unfortunately, [B]Penetrator[/B], America is far from a monger's paradise. Like [B]Steve9696[/B] said, the fact that prostitution is illegal in 99.6% of the United States means that both sides of the transaction view each other with distrust and caution. Prostitution operates as an underground market in the States so there's no quality control and opaque pricing. It's easy to spend hundreds on a girl that would be considered cute at best. A lot of American escorts are downright ugly and still expect a couple of hundred dollars. It's ridiculous.

The lowest risk option that's widely available is going to a strip club and seeing if the girl is cool with "extras". But, that's usually nothing more than a hand job or oral sex. You might be able to slip a finger into her pussy or ass, but full on sex usually risks arrest or exorbitant prices.

I've thought about SA, but I can't do the time commitment. I need to quickly find beautiful girls and fuck them. If I want to invest a lot of time into getting pussy, then I can just date civilians.

So, if you have access the the European market, you have an embarrassment of riches. I can't wait to go back so I can get some high quality pussy for a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Wow, you guys are making me blush, I never knew I had it so good over here. I should have realized that mongering in the us is grim when that Kraft guy got busted for getting a hand job. It must be hard when a billionaire has to go to some sleazy massage parlour. Additionally I may also explain why only fans is so popular in the us even tho porn is free.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2474951]That sounds like a reasonable price to pay once you vet a few options. What service do you use for these $300 escorts? Is it only available in NYC? Do you know of any nationwide services?[/QUOTE]NYC is my hometown where I have mongered since the 1970's. During the period from then to now I have lived, worked and visited abroad on many occasions. However, over the years I've made many contacts. I have similar contacts in Miami. So all my escorts are provided by people I know (you could call them pimps). I don't use any services that are publicly available or, for example, the USA Sex Guide. There are many surreptitious providers; some high end others low end. I use only the low end. Wish I had contact with the high end, although they're quite costly; could do with some hot escorts at least lets say once a month.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2475288]Wow, you guys are making me blush, I never knew I had it so good over here. I should have realized that mongering in the us is grim when that Kraft guy got busted for getting a hand job. It must be hard when a billionaire has to go to some sleazy massage parlour. Additionally I may also explain why only fans is so popular in the us even tho porn is free.[/QUOTE]Remember when Hugh Grant got busted for getting a blow job in his car? US sucks big time, no pun intended. Regarding Seeking Arrangement anyone knows of hook ups that ended with wedding bells, seems like a likely scenario.

Long overdue report. But just resigned up to ISG after like 14 years.

Trip was Fall 2019, 7 days in London. I had on a previous trip used Divas (forgot who) and had an excellent experience. I thought I just got really lucky.

Few days later I booked a solo who goes by the name Lily White (easy to find her). She is a professional. Does professional photo shoots, regularly updates her Twitter. I really dug the pale white skin and red head in her pics and thought I found gold. When she showed up in person, it was a mixed bag. On the plus, she was very professional and accommodating, like she comes right out and asks "what's your fantasy" and runs with it. On the negative, just being real, she's not as attractive in person. Her photos are clearly professionally altered. She has small hairs coming out of freckles, doesn't shave her thighs above her knees. Just things like that that kind of bothered me at 350 pounds price.

Next 2 days went back to Divas. I no longer remember the names of the girls, and they're not up on the site anymore. But both were excellent. Brown haired Romanians, young, no fake tits or overdone tats. I made a mental note to just stick with Divas from now on. Why break what's working.

Stayed in Holborn at the Thistle. Highly recommended. Well located, five minutes from the tube, and if I recall it was only like $200 per night. Very small rooms but whatever.

Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?

He broke the golden rules of mongering.

1. Never give out real name!

2. Never give out your employment address!

3. Use a Burner phone or Burner app, never your real phone or work phone.

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]

She is a bluffer. He should keep a note of everything. Type out a statement in bullet proof form. SHE is not easy to find. Hhaving typed it out, he should consider his mixture of strategies: 1. Tell her. 2. tell others. 3. say they met and she threatened him. 4. he did not know she was a hooker or did not think about until he saw she was nuts.

She knows he is afraid and is playing on that. Nothing m ore. She advertised / is advertising somewhere.

Many hookers use CCTV for "protection". He should man up and it will be OK.

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]I assume she was an independent booked on AW or a similar site? If was an agency girl from Diva, Aurora, etc. , the first thing I would do is call the agency to tell them what was going on.

I agree with others that it's a bluff. She's not going to have a bunch of henchmen try to hunt you down for a couple hundred quid or whatever she thinks she's owed.