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Hello,

Advise your friend to just ignore the messages / calls.

Giving real names, is always a stupidity. In this internet word, even you can search by a picture.

However, my sincere advice is never give in for blackmail!

Even he has wife / GF they will appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]

That's a rookie mistake.

I use an app called Hushed. I buy a local number for like a week for a few dollars. It expires and it goes away. Poof - forever. It's basically a burner phone on your iPhone.

Never use your real phone number. I don't even tell girls my real story. I say I'm from a different city, and that I work as a computer programmer since nobody ever has follow up questions to that.

[QUOTE=Dynolas;2475832]He broke the golden rules of mongering.

1. Never give out real name!

2. Never give out your employment address!

3. Use a Burner phone or Burner app, never your real phone or work phone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;2475832]He broke the golden rules of mongering.

1. Never give out real name!

2. Never give out your employment address!

3. Use a Burner phone or Burner app, never your real phone or work phone.[/QUOTE]How much could she possibly be requesting? Whatever the amount, this sounds like petty scamming. She obviously sees your friend as a victim and is attempting to use it against him. Your friend needs to chill out, let her know that he's not scared, that he has people of questionable morals too if she wants to get rough, and just block communication with her. She sounds like a ROB, looking for a easy target.

I'm on the same note as Dynolas. You NEVER give her any identifying information! Use a different phone, different number (new SIM if you have to) and create a James Bond persona under which you never break character!! Never give her any power. The situation has to always be in your control!

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]Something seems a little awry with this post. Fact no. 1: The gentleman did not get there at the agreed time. Fact no. 2: he actually got there, received a CBJ and paid her. The big omission is what happened after the CBJ? Did she make a demand for more money because of lost time? Was there a quarrel? Did he give her less money than she demanded and left? Did she say before hand that more money was required to be paid? I think this should be made clear before advice is given.

Gents, the conversation below reinforces the basics: never reveal your true identity in the mongering business. All an escort needs to know about you is your ability to pay her fee and the services you want to sample. I never give my real name, occupation, city of origin, or any other personally identifying information. As far as a prostitute is concerned, I materialized from the planet Mars right before she opened the door, she coaxed two pops out of me with her pussy-mouth-ass during our time together, and I vanished to Venus after I left.

Guys -- Like others have written, I highly value my trips to Europe where transactions between consenting adults are legal (to varying degrees) and above board. It's a lot harder here in the USA, but it can be done. Successfully engaging in the hobby requires a bit more effort and some up-front expenses on your part to join national, regional or other websites focused on a particular portion of the hobby. If planning a trip to the USA with time to hobby (if we are ever released from house arrest), I would certainly plan ahead.

USASG does give you a good lay of the land, so to speak, so you can tell what's available or not available in the location you're visiting. I've joined rubmaps. Ch (advertises on USASG) for information about the massage parlor scene. There are reviews of many parlors going back almost 8-10 years. There is a similar site for strip clubs, so you can tell what level of undress is allowed and whether or not "extras" or "take out" might be available. There are numerous escort websites for independents and some that are agency-specific. Some are OK and some are really bad. Once again, doing a little research before your trip goes a long way.

I also belong to a "verification" site, where escorts and verified guys can contact each other and plan activities. Without a "track record" here in the USA, it's sometimes hard to connect with an escort who requires references. In that case, your best bet is to find someone who says she is "newby-friendly. " I've lurked on SA, but the effort you have to go through to actually make a connection (with no guarantees of anything other than coffee) just isn't worth my time. It is for some guys.

One thing that's very different: NEVER discuss prices, exchange of money or services desired on email or over the phone. She will either post what she charges for an hour of "companionship" or you can find out from some of the resources I've described. I'm glad to work with anyone on PM for more specifics.

Can I ask, do you get actually good intel from Rubmaps? I've been using the free version (just looking at aggregate star ratings rather than having access to specific reviews) for years. But my success rate of not getting a fugly duck is like 50/50 and a true hottie maybe 1 of 5 times. I have my go-to locations because I know they have hiring standards, but even then it's like 3 of 5 chance I leave impressed. Do you find that that reviews on RM are accurate and you can bank on them? That if someone says "there was a hot 20 yo spinner with nice skin and etc etc" that if you show up and ask for that person, that's really what you'll get?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2476421]Can I ask, do you get actually good intel from Rubmaps? I've been using the free version (just looking at aggregate star ratings rather than having access to specific reviews) for years. But my success rate of not getting a fugly duck is like 50/50 and a true hottie maybe 1 of 5 times. I have my go-to locations because I know they have hiring standards, but even then it's like 3 of 5 chance I leave impressed. Do you find that that reviews on RM are accurate and you can bank on them? That if someone says "there was a hot 20 yo spinner with nice skin and etc etc" that if you show up and ask for that person, that's really what you'll get?[/QUOTE]Yes, I do. It's been helpful for me when I travel to find FS places, a relatively clean place, and generally what to expect. RM also helps me find non-Asian MPs as well. I also compare the RM reviews with USASG for the same city. It's pretty east to tell which reviews are real and which are fake (or at least exaggerated). Also, I figure that I'm just as bad at guessing the actual age of Asian providers as everyone else. AMPS pretty much everywhere are hit-or-miss. But, if you do your research, you can minimize the "misses".

A day trip to London:

Raven [URL]http://www.thesecretboudoir.com/raven--london-mature-escort.html[/URL].

I chose Raven as for many years I have wanted to go with an Indian girl, not many Indian girls are in the business so finding one working at this time was fortunate. She was in her late 30's but looked really good. This day she had relocated to a new hotel so I was caught out heading to where she was the day before. I found her to be very nice, easy to talk to and had a great time with her. She was pretty and had some lovely soft F cup implants. Service was excellent definitely worth repeating. Cost was 300 for one hour.

Braelyn [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-high-street-kensington-braelyn[/URL].

I took a chance on a Russian girl for the first time in years, I'd met a few in the German FKK's and had some mixed experiences but I thought that Braelyn looked good and it was worth a chance. She was young, 21 in her profile and looked a bit better than in her photos, the natural light suited her better than the professional photography. It was my intention to try some anal but she refused as she had limits and required advanced notice. She had a list of services on her web pages but not all were not available, some of her off-limits were DFK, CIM and cunnilingus, her oral was good and I liked the way her natural DD tits bounced as we went at it. It was over quick and I would only book for 30 minutes the next time and only after I had exhausted all the new girls would I put her low on my list of repeats. Cost was 200 for an hour.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2477592]A day trip to London:

Raven [URL]http://www.thesecretboudoir.com/raven--london-mature-escort.html[/URL].

I chose Raven as for many years I have wanted to go with an Indian girl, not many Indian girls are in the business so finding one working at this time was fortunate. She was in her late 30's but looked really good. This day she had relocated to a new hotel so I was caught out heading to where she was the day before. I found her to be very nice, easy to talk to and had a great time with her. She was pretty and had some lovely soft F cup implants. Service was excellent definitely worth repeating. Cost was 300 for one hour.

Braelyn [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-high-street-kensington-braelyn[/URL].

I took a chance on a Russian girl for the first time in years, I'd met a few in the German FKK's and had some mixed experiences but I thought that Braelyn looked good and it was worth a chance. She was young, 21 in her profile and looked a bit better than in her photos, the natural light suited her better than the professional photography. It was my intention to try some anal but she refused as she had limits and required advanced notice. She had a list of services on her web pages but not all were not available, some of her off-limits were DFK, CIM and cunnilingus, her oral was good and I liked the way her natural DD tits bounced as we went at it. It was over quick and I would only book for 30 minutes the next time and only after I had exhausted all the new girls would I put her low on my list of repeats. Cost was 200 for an hour.[/QUOTE]To each his own, but clearly you love to roll the dice. No reason to pick an unreviewed Diva girl and get a mediocre experience. Guarantee you would have had an outstanding experience with a well reviewed girl.

I am quite surprised that it would be 300 for a late thirties girl. (Woman). That seems like a straight up rip off to me vs the rest of what London offers. But if you are happy that's all that really counts.

Ps other guys in London — I envy u. I read every day 10 great reports on Diva girls, many of whom I’ve seen. OMG I am so jealous. Please go fuck them. (I have lucked into a local SB here in the US after a ton of hard work. So I am no longer starving. But I still miss my London Ro-girls. )

Agreed. London is the most underrated city for this hobby in the world, IMHO. You need to have deeper pockets, but the quality is outstanding and all of the pressure you feel in FKK's in Germany, Amsterdam (never again BTW. F that place), Tijuana (which I really like still). Only place I long for in a similar way is Havana, but that's a totally different experience than London.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2477689]Ps other guys in London I envy u. I read every day 10 great reports on Diva girls, many of whom Ive seen. OMG I am so jealous. Please go fuck them. (I have lucked into a local SB here in the US after a ton of hard work. So I am no longer starving. But I still miss my London Ro-girls. )[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2478474]Agreed. London is the most underrated city for this hobby in the world, IMHO. You need to have deeper pockets, but the quality is outstanding and all of the pressure you feel in FKK's in Germany, Amsterdam (never again BTW. F that place), Tijuana (which I really like still). Only place I long for in a similar way is Havana, but that's a totally different experience than London.[/QUOTE]What pressure do you feel in an FKK club? The only pressure I feel is my boy up against the towel around my waist.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2479033]What pressure do you feel in an FKK club? The only pressure I feel is my boy up against the towel around my waist.[/QUOTE]FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2479293]FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".[/QUOTE]Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479331]Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.[/QUOTE]I can afford $500 an hour, but it's not like I don't have a sense of value. I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more. My best sessions were in London where I was paying about 250 dollars per hour for Divas.

What's your take on Zurich clubs versus German FKK? Is it worth five times the price? What do you get for the extra money? Are the girls better, fresher, something-er? Or is it just that that's what it costs there And if that's where you are, that's what you pay?