Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Ponderosa]With the crackdown, do you believe it will have any impact on Passions or the new place nearby? Technically these girls work at these places as is evidenced by the menu for services and "take out". My understanding is that the only women allowed to travel at night alone need to provide proof of employment to get around there, unless accompanied by a male. I am sure Peter can provide the chicas with something allowing them to get around Sosua to his place after dark.

How about the chicas at NG? Could the owners there provide these chicas with a "job" to allow for coming and going during the crackdown? Would he want to?

Is this crackdown, if truly enforced, going to push punters to places like Passions, BBs, O2, you know the list?

Although it is good for banter to figure out why this is happening, I am more concerned about effects of this crackdown. It seems to me more than a coincidence that SD gets cleaned up, then it moves to Sosua. My fear is what this will do to change to my little playground, the DR. If venues mentioned in this post benefit from the crackdown and business increases for them because of this, punting prices will inevitably go up (supply and demand). I don't like less competition, I like more.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]It sounds like they want to funnel the chicas to casas. So I imagine whoever is behind this crackdown they probably have plans to build quite a few "passions" type spots and control the pussy, money and alcohol.

[QUOTE=Negro562]None of you see what is really happening. There is no special reason why they are having this crackdown. They don't have some special agenda. The crackdown is designed to move the Haitians out. All of them. They can't just arrest all the Haitians because that would be racist but, if you harass all the hoes with putting special interest to making the Haitian hoes extremely more uncomfortable then you can achieve your ultimate goal. Yes, Sosua will suffer for a while but in the long run the Haitians will be gone and less likely to return.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha!!!
Negro, that's a pretty good guess, but form experience I can tell you it's not going to be easy to get the Haitians out of Sosua or the DR for that matter. Back in 2005 or so they did the same thing in Sosua, to some extent. What are the results? They now have more Haitians than before. Just wait and see. Two years form now, you will see more Haitians in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Papi0170]Hahaha!!!
Negro, that's a pretty good guess, but form experience I can tell you it's not going to be easy to get the Haitians out of Sosua or the DR for that matter. Back in 2005 or so they did the same thing in Sosua, to some extent. What are the results? They now have more Haitians than before. Just wait and see. Two years form now, you will see more Haitians in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

How do you know this for sure? I am just wondering because a little more than three years ago Dominican chicas out numbered Haitian chicas in Sosua 3 to 1. Now the tide has turned and the Dominicans are in an uproar. So, if you can tell me how you came to your conclusion I would love to know. Dominican Haitian relations in Sosua have never been worst.

What are you talking about (most guys send money to places they frequent?) Only a handfull of idiots send money to these women. I really dont think its most guys, its a small percentage of losers.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Comprendo, but guys who are less inclined to visit will stop Western Union payments. Most guys send money to places they frequent. What kills me is their timing with the crackdown. Why not wait till the year is over and start a "new initiative" rather than kill Christmas?[/QUOTE]

I just say it's time to move then! If the city doesn't appreciate us stimulating "their" economy we move next door. Solution : 1. Have a team topple the Beard government in Havana. 2. Have Lorenzo and Wilfred moved all expenses paid. Plus the girls from Rose bar and and the DJ from classicos. 3. Interview new talent and establish a standard service fee.

After a few months the ghost town of Sosua will be having the mayor working part time in one of the beach kiosks!

[QUOTE=Negro562]They can't just arrest all the Haitians because that would be racist.[/QUOTE]
Firstly they don't need to arrest all Haitians, just those who are here illegally (and that is the great majority in Sosúa). They already have every right in Dominican and international law to deport these and they often do.

The remaining Haitians, who are here legally, are no more likely to cause trouble or offence than Dominicans, in fact much less likely because they have more to lose by being arrested. They are here legally because it is in the interests of some Dominican individual or company to have them here to fill a need and they have been given permission to live here as a result of that. My Haitian friends who are legally here are the most deferential and law-abiding lot you could imagine.

So if they just wanted to get rid of illegal Haitians they would be better off concentrating all their efforts on that sad, but legal, process.

Secondly, when have the Dominican ruling class ever worried about being racist? The whole culture is overtly racist from top to bottom, not just in respect of Haitians, but in the pecking order of skin shades of Dominicans from white to black, through an array of various browns each given their own name. For more about this read "Coloring the Nation" by David Howard. It's a bit dry and academic but accurate and unbiased.

[QUOTE=You Can]What are you talking about (most guys send money to places they frequent?) Only a handfull of idiots send money to these women. I really dont think its most guys, its a small percentage of losers.[/QUOTE]
You have misunderstood Mr Gogo as his sentence was ambiguous. He meant that of the guys who do send money (perhaps more than you realise) most send it to places where they have previously visited. So if you discourage guys from visiting a particular place on holiday (in this case Sosúa) the income from WU will start to drop off sooner or later. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[QUOTE=You Can]What are you talking about (most guys send money to places they frequent?) Only a handfull of idiots send money to these women. I really dont think its most guys, its a small percentage of losers.[/QUOTE]Some would say that the idiot is someone who thinks only a "handful" of mongerers sends money.

[QUOTE=You Can]What are you talking about (most guys send money to places they frequent?) Only a handfull of idiots send money to these women. I really dont think its most guys, its a small percentage of losers.[/QUOTE]I will agree with you that "most" guys don't send money to girls in the DR but it is more common than you think it is. I can tell you for certain that a large percentage of the girls I know personally in the DR have at least one "Western Union boyfriend". The more I imbibe myself into the local scene in the DR the more I am shocked at how many of these girls' apartments are furnished by some sucker from outside the country,it is more common than I ever thought it was.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Firstly they don't need to arrest all Haitians, just those who are here illegally (and that is the great majority in Sosúa). They already have every right in Dominican and international law to deport these and they often do.

The remaining Haitians, who are here legally, are no more likely to cause trouble or offence than Dominicans, in fact much less likely because they have more to lose by being arrested. They are here legally because it is in the interests of some Dominican individual or company to have them here to fill a need and they have been given permission to live here as a result of that. My Haitian friends who are legally here are the most deferential and law-abiding lot you could imagine.

So if they just wanted to get rid of illegal Haitians they would be better off concentrating all their efforts on that sad, but legal, process.

Secondly, when have the Dominican ruling class ever worried about being racist? The whole culture is overtly racist from top to bottom, not just in respect of Haitians, but in the pecking order of skin shades of Dominicans from white to black, through an array of various browns each given their own name. For more about this read "Coloring the Nation" by David Howard. It's a bit dry and academic but accurate and unbiased.[/QUOTE]
In one island with two nations with porous border it is only a matter time when all deported girls re appear. I do not think Haiti girls are causing the problem. Sosua has become to known as sex capital of DR more than any other place including Santo Domingo. Besides all foreigners are concentrated in Sosua either mongering crowd or vacationing crowd.
It is good that they are making bars put up barriers so that tourists on the street do not see inside. But it is against carrebean culture. Everywhere where you go there are open bars and open restaurents. Arresting single girls is really a crime. Who says girls do not have the right to go to bars to have a good time. Whether they are there for hooking or not is immaterial.
I believe many girls who come from surrounding areas to pedro clisante bars will not come there anymore. It is more likely some other areas will become more visible. Prostituition never dies down , it just moves location to location. Too much money , supply and demand, livelihood depends on this business.

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[QUOTE=Negro562]None of you see what is really happening. There is no special reason why they are having this crackdown. They don't have some special agenda. The crackdown is designed to move the Haitians out. All of them. They can't just arrest all the Haitians because that would be racist but, if you harass all the hoes with putting special interest to making the Haitian hoes extremely more uncomfortable then you can achieve your ultimate goal. Yes, Sosua will suffer for a while but in the long run the Haitians will be gone and less likely to return.[/QUOTE]

Even before the earthquake the Dominican government had no qualms about raids that just scooped up anybody who looked haitian and dumped them over the border at Dajabon. They aren't subtle enough to try to manipulate the comfort levels of haitian girls in Sosua.

[QUOTE=You Can]What are you talking about (most guys send money to places they frequent?) Only a handfull of idiots send money to these women. I really dont think its most guys, its a small percentage of losers.[/QUOTE]

I send my female friend in SD a couple hundred bucks on her birthday. I hope that does not make me an idiot. For the price of a piece of ass off Backpage, I receive a lot of good will and fun when I visit the DR. The $200 I send her is much more appreciated than the money you might spend on a female in the States.

I will agree though a person who sends monthly checks to a chica might not be spending their money wisely but it is their money and does not necessarily make them an idiot or loser. There are many who would consider the people men and women who come to the DR for a sex vacation to be idiots, losers or worse. I guess it is a matter of who's eyes you are looking through.

My dos pesos worth.

[QUOTE=Garoto]Can anybody report about this information?

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Dude, you have almost two and a half days of commentary on this very subject. Please go back two or three pages and [b]Read The F*cking Forum (RTFF)![/b]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Some would say that the idiot is someone who thinks only a "handful" of mongerers sends money.[/QUOTE]

Or even better yet, that your the ONLY one sending money to that particular girl. You can guarantee that if they are a working girl or you met them while they were tricking and look good? They have many western union novios from all countries.