Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.
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Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.
Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.
Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.
Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.
Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!
Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]
Lolitta Spa. Cra. 86 #44 see-58 Apt 201 Did not visit.
Santa Spa (house) I was there 3 years ago and yesterday. The girl I wanted was not there or was so photoshopped I was not interested in the real girl so walked out. Cra. 80 #32 EE-21.
Golden House (house) Did not take because the black girl I wanted was not there because she never existed to begin with or quit long ago. Bait and switch crap! Cra. 80 A #36-21.
Cropolis 9 building Apt 604 is the presentation room. Basically there are like 4 rooms and they have the whole floor. The security people know why you are there if you are asking to go to the 6th floor. I texted I would be there in 30 minutes. The super hot girl was not there or did not exist. I was willing to take a different girl but then they tried to increase the price 20,000 p and that took me over the edge and I walked out. Bait and switch with a price increase pissed me off so much that I refused to give them my money. Cra. 69 see #32 see-80.
Angeles Spa. Cra. 81 #42-60 Never went. They want a 30,000 presentation fee that will applied to the girls fee if you take a girl. I hate that crap!
Took a girl from another one of these places but forgot the address. So took 2 girls in 2 days and the 3rd day I was so pissed off at my wasted time I took a bus to Centro. Had a good F and returned to Laureles to my hotel since it was paid for and I like the area.
I have done this off and on in many cities around Colombia and only for 3 days and give up. Only 20% match their pictures. That is an 80% failure rate. Some of that was during covid when I was here for and so had no choice in the matter.
The names of the brothel / spas do not matter. The names change and sometimes they use multiple company names for the same location. Whatsapp numbers do not matter because they use a million different numbers and most the time it is the person running the place and not the real girl anyways. They will always tell you the girl you want is there now waiting for you. Pictures do not matter because they were taken years ago, photoshopped to death, or the picture simple taken off the internet. Price also means little. It is just a guide. One place listed 100,000 but not for how long. I got there they listed their prices for 15,30, and 60 minutes. Funny how none matched with the 100,000 p listed on the website. So the answer is the paragraph below.
Try this. Go to Google maps. Enter all the addresses I listed above and save each one with the "SAVE" button. Then take 2-3 hours and walk to 3 of them between 3-6 pm. Not as many girls as after 6 pm but easier to find. It is a nice walk through residential areas and you can find some nice neighborhood restaurants and hotels this way. Relaxing walk. After 3 spas you will love it or hate it. You should notice that they all have roughly the same quality. Mostly a little thick (plump) and ages 22-33 with many fake boobs. Most are 170,000 p.
Every advertisement you see on Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka, etc, ask if there are other girls at that location because you want a presentation to see ALL the girls.
I never tried doing this in El Poblado, but should have. I did go once 3 years ago for a short girl with REAL (not fake) big boobs for 180,000 and saw her twice. Picture was 100% correct. Higher prices in El Poblado but MAYBE have higher rate of real pix being used.
I was supposed to stay 2 months but 2 weeks was enough. Not returning for this level of crap. Too many problems for too little success in quality and quantity I wanted.
Sad. The day I was leaving I found a hot young (18-20) girl with her mom sitting on the bench next to me. I got her to the room and she asked for the much dreaded PRE-payment. Walked out and had a repeat girl instead. The one who briefly demanded 300,000 for no condom sex before figuring out I was not going to pay. Funny thing is I finally remembered why she seemed so familiar. I used to do her friend (4 times) 3 years ago. I wanted her 3 years ago but I had a bad vibe about her but tried to take her once and I could tell just while waiting to pay for the room she was going to be a pain in the ass. She asked for a drink, would not look at me, and some other stuff. Before paying for the room I walked out. But 3 years later and taking her for the second time she was great. Yes, I know that is very rare.
In Feb 2008, my first visit to MDE, the immigration guy, after asking why I was there and me saying "turismo", he says, "well, you know, there are a lot of pretty girls here and I think you should take advantage of that!!
So different!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3032830]I can remember being asked the what is the purpose of your visit question and the follow up question of what sort of attractions do you plan to visit as long ago as 2008.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.
I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.
Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.
Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.
Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!
Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]...[/QUOTE]
I don't think that is a new policy. The enforcement may be more stringent. I think you will be fine if you keep it discreet. If you are worried there are always places like the San Peter and the other punter clubhouses around town.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Time to review which hotels are guest friendly in central Medellin.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. [/QUOTE]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?
Sorry if this has been answered. Basic q.
Is there any difference between chicas in parque Lleras clubs vs outside? Quality service baddie rating etc?
What's the incentive for a chica to go in vs standing walking outside? Better client chances? More $?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. [/QUOTE]Airbnb has had that policy for awhile. As I remember what a renter has to agree to, Airbnb says they don't approve of sexual tourism, but it doesn't forbid it; but a host's listing may be suspended if they advertise for sexual tourism. I'm currently in an Airbnb apartment in Laureles and I haven't had any problems with ladies visiting me.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3035319]Its fun to do guatape, jardin, Santorini in doradal, or just stay in the city with a calm and quiet Colombiana presenting herself in the "novia" wrapper.
The risk is that so many will spin the relationship in this context. They know they will get more out of this type of deal versus a one time rate if the guy gets his feelings involved.
A couple chicas from the dating app bragged to me how guys will paypal them money, bring ebay refurb macbooks, spend big money going to Santa Marta, Cartagena, Mexico, and even Spain / Italy.
The thing I always ask myself: is she only doing this stuff with me?
I'm sure someone will reply and tell me how wonderful their Paisa / Rola novia is an angel, but this is not my experience. Most of them show signs of a personality disorder when a serious type relationship develops. They are secretly very jealous of foreigners with the means to travel and spend..[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree and in my 15 years here in Medellin have seen it all and SO for myself the "ILLUSION" is gone, yet my reasoned / balanced / sound advice always falls on deaf ears so as you may have noticed whereas at one time (8 to 12 years ago on these forum boards and in person to visiting friends and acquaintances) I have all but given up here on ISG.
My advice. It is all an ILLUSION, all of them / all of it.
Take it for what it is, simply hit it and forget it. She is not your girl rather it's just your turn.
Trust me it is ALL transactional. Forget any thought or idea about finding a soul mate, romance, lover, trusted friend, wife, confidant and partner.
I am not saying that they are working girls, no! But consider this:
The typical paisa is what they called harlots in past generations yet they give the ILLUSION that they are a Proverbs Chapter 31 woman ready and available for a relationship.
I said enough, stay safe.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3035495]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?[/QUOTE]Tats do not jump out much on a black girl so I did not notice. There are very few black girls. Even fewer that are skinny with a narrow pretty face, easy going, and friendly girl. Best I can do to describe her.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3035427]I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.[/QUOTE]This is a much faster and easier method than most of that online dating site BS. I find Centro the best for me with a few limited brothels second best for selection and speed to get her into bed. What I listed are mini brothels that are not well known. A few guys will think it is awesome if they are into thicker older girls with a few fake boobs thrown in and a nice daytime stroll through the neighborhood of Laureles. I had all the time time in the world and could stay 6 months if I wanted to but I knew I could do better elsewhere so I went elsewhere.
That's been done many times here. At one time there was a thread just for that. Maybe there still is.
I do not do the online dating sites, El Poblado scene, drinking, or overnight stays. But was thinking about the scoping stuff so many worry about. This is simply what I would do if I played in that sandbox.
Before you even bother to meet her get her Facebook account where her friends and family are. If she will not share it there is a problem. If she has less than 20 friends there is a problem.
Once you meet, tell her she is super sexy and to pose for some pictures. Why? Because her pictures on the website will be slightly Photoshopped making clear identification difficult. Also, make sure her tattoos on the photo match what she really has. Easy way for her to get away when she shows the police her tattoos do not match the ones in the Tinder or Bumble pictures or pictures shows tattoos and in real she has none.
Tell her you are scared because of all the scoping happening that you wanted a current clear picture of her face that you sent to your friend. Tell that way she will be easy to identify and find when her picture is shown on the local TV news. She does not want to be caught and does not want all her friends and family to know. If she has no ill intentions this should not bother her. If she is a scoper she will leave right then and there (suddenly sick haha).
Tell the office staff or security guard to not let her out unless you are with her. Make sure she hears this.
You made it to your room. If she tries to get you drink before sex that is a bad sign. Your best bet is to go straight to the bedroom. These scoping chicks do not want to have sex with you and will fight tooth and nail for a drink first. She wants you drugged as soon as possible.
Lastly, buy a $20-$50 mini spy camera you can buy Amazon, ebay, and everywhere so you can watch the LIVE video from your phone. Aim one above and one to the side of where you place your drink and test the picture before your date. Open bottle / can or pour a drink into a glass. Open the spy camera app on your phone so you do not miss a second of what is happening. Say you need to go to the bathroom. Place the drink somewhere away from her so that she has to physically stand up and cross the room to put something in it. This makes it clear to you and the police why she went to your drink versus you leave it at the table you are both sitting at. If she reached over for your drink she can simply say she wanted to know if it was cold because her drink was hot or that she was simply reading the ingredients or wanted a closer look because she thought the glass was cool looking. Hard to explain to you and the police why she got up and touched your drink placed across the room. If she is bad call security downstairs to call the police (or call directly) from the bathroom and get her arrested!
BONUS ROUND!
Now if we use my method and we get 5 of these girls arrested within a short time frame of less than a year, then the word will get out that the gringos are dangerous. This should cause these scoping problems to drop considerably once these girls personally know a girl who has been arrested.
Keep in mind that even if you have been with her on many visits there will always be a 5-10% chance of being drugged. Why? Simple. Her kids, friends, and family will always mean more to her. If any of them are in the hospital, you instantly turn into an ATM card. Also, there are a few that play the long game trying to get banking info and such.
Today is a holiday here in Colombia. Things are pretty chill. I was reflecting on old times sitting here looking at old cards and thinking about all the casas and 2 4 1 specials that seem like just yesterday but disappeared about 6 years ago. Crazy times we're in now reading posts about getting Scoped, immigration questions and the rest. I'll probably venture out and hit what's left of El Centro this week for some fun later this week.