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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592572]Whenever they hear hoofbeats they keep expecting to see a zebra. This is the type of people most likely to join a cult, they certainly behave like they have already joined a cult. Strange how they can never, ever admit being wrong on the smallest thing even if the evidence hits them on the head.[/QUOTE]Hah! That's a medical student adage. I see you sir!
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2592636]You just lost your credibility. Real scientist / Doctor are never married to a position. The data is what it is.[/QUOTE]No shit, that's exactly what I've said. You're married to Ivermectin and without solid proof.
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Most studies are paid for bogus.
There was recently a study regarding the vaccine in relation to sperm count. And the researchers while not saying anything before the first ejaculation had told the participants not to ejaculate for two weeks before the second. And still this study has been flouted as great evidence and used by the delusional pro vaxxers alot.
Sheep!
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2592594]Since I am generally quite careful in my speech and actions and hardly ever do / say anything suggestive of racism or sexism in personal or professional life, how you characterize me hardly matters. I would not become something because you call me so. I stand by my comments about Islamic terrorists in Europe and would not shed a tear if they were all deported or wiped out.
Your comments history on the other hand reeks of half baked nonsense about racism. You throw that charge around recklessly as you do with all your shit. Very typical of a guy with zero self control. But then your hypocrisy comes through. Women are Karens, Chinese are ching chongs, Turkish are this, Americans are that. You take more umbrage when I call for action against thuggish terrorists but love your CCP overlords who murdered dozens of millions in the last year alone.
Get this: most sensible people judge others on their actions and not words. No one here nor in the western democracies in general is taking deeply racist actions or hurting others on the basis of race. Your CCP bosses wiped out millions in Tibet, wiping out millions in Xinjiang, have a giant, province sized concentration camp in there; and unleashed a virus that perpetrated a genocide that killed people across the world but your only reply was to nitpick that it was not a genocide because they killed more than one race or group of people..[/QUOTE]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.
"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.
"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.
Adulterer.
Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.
Shitty human.
All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592692]But what's the point of doing on a fucking p4p website? He's definitely a weirdo.[/QUOTE]Hahah, for shit and giggle.
In my personal life, people with a background in virology agree with me. People with background in other field of biology, well, I pretend to be a pro-vaxxer and stay away from the topic. They get so emotional when they suspect I think differently. It kind of insane. I can't really say what I think.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2592697]I was told they pay families in Romania to lie about their family members having died from covid when they actually died from something else.[/QUOTE]Yup I personally know 2 girls whose close relatives (one case mom, another case grandma) died from something else in Romania and received between 500 and 400 euros to sign such Covid-death papers. It's not a myth, it's really real.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2592697]I was told they pay families in Romania to lie about their family members having died from covid when they actually died from something else. Easy money.[/QUOTE]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592690]Why haven't you already gotten vaccinated if you didn't have any question marks about it yourself?[/QUOTE]That deserves a 'Duh' answer. Of course I haven't got it because I have questions about it. I am always cautious about things which is why I am neither a billionaire nor a pauper LOL. I am trying to glean sense from the anti-vaxxers but I am getting a lot of hot air and no substance. My position, however, is for each person to decide for themselves what to do and what not to do. My decision will be made after I am satisfied from careful study and not frantic hype. When I have arrived at my decision I am not going to try to convince anyone either way.
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The anti vaxxers are a cult with a strong far right wing flavor. When you want some answers about existential questions, do you ask the Davidians or the church of scientology?
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592791]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.
"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.
"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.
Adulterer.
Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.
Shitty human.
All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.[/QUOTE]BTW, the very worst racists have always been among the Asian crowd; even the worst KKK goon will be blushing in the presence of these thugs. Some of these people practice the worst colorism in the world. I bet this shitbucket Murse feels superior in the presence of anyone with dark skin but keeps crying about White racism on this forum. I have many Asian friends but sometimes it makes me cringe seeing the colorism displayed by some of these douchebags.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592862]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.[/QUOTE]A large segment of the population seems to have a need to be part of an exclusive, clever, in-group, that has "figured it out". Along with that, they also have a belief that everyone else has been brainwashed. For instance, I am not married, so I have no reason to be defensive. But there are mongers here who want to spam the board constantly with messages about how the monger lifestyle is superior and anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot. I obviously love the mongering lifestyle, but I do not feel the need to convince myself that I chose the superior path.
With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]A large segment of the population seems to have a need to be part of an exclusive, clever, in-group, that has "figured it out". Along with that, they also have a belief that everyone else has been brainwashed. For instance, I am not married, so I have no reason to be defensive. But there are mongers here who want to spam the board constantly with messages about how the monger lifestyle is superior and anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot. I obviously love the mongering lifestyle, but I do not feel the need to convince myself that I chose the superior path.
With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]When this is just a failure to have to pay for women, and better to know it, with so many who are so frustrated about women.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]At the same time, Shapiro picks on idealistic college kids and "owns" them. Or other empty shell liberal talking heads. Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet.
Honestly, even though someone like Joe Rogan is technically a "liberal," he is probably one of the best advocates for common sense, conservative positions.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2592973]That deserves a 'Duh' answer. Of course I haven't got it because I have questions about it. I am always cautious about things which is why I am neither a billionaire nor a pauper LOL. I am trying to glean sense from the anti-vaxxers but I am getting a lot of hot air and no substance. My position, however, is for each person to decide for themselves what to do and what not to do. My decision will be made after I am satisfied from careful study and not frantic hype. When I have arrived at my decision I am not going to try to convince anyone either way.[/QUOTE]Fair and well-reason way to think. Good attitude.
Obviously I feel that I am fairly educated to speak on the subject and sometimes make the occasional "just get the vax comment", but in professional practice, all we can do is just give people the facts, correct the misinformation, and let people choose for themselves.
Questioning authority is a also my primary mode, but like you, I still have yet to see many well formed arguments on this topic from the antivax camp outside of ideologically-based hot air.
One profession whose professional opinion is hardly ever promoted are the clinical pharmacists. I have yet to see a single one lean anything other than "potential good outweighs potential bad" regarding these vaccines. Molecular scientists on the other hand operate out of laboratory and academic theory.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593027]BTW, the very worst racists have always been among the Asian crowd;[/QUOTE]I 100% agree.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593027] I bet this shitbucket Murse feels superior in the presence of anyone with dark skin but keeps crying about White racism on this forum. I have many Asian friends but sometimes it makes me cringe seeing the colorism displayed by some of these douchebags.[/QUOTE]Ah, now your prejudice makes more sense.
On a population level, Asians are racists as fuck. White people enslaved a continent and sold black people as cattle. Slaughtered indigenous people and Jews. Assyrian Arabs think they are the superior race. Potatoes and po-tah-toes.
As an individual human, you're still fuckin' awful.
C_'est La Vie.