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I was suggested to go check out this place in another forum. I was pleasantly surprised by the service and cost. Thailand is insane!!
There are about 20 bars on the block. Nothing like Soi 6. Very low key bars.
I visited Bada Bing. Too many dudes sitting around for me so I left and ended up at Carre DAss. Definitely didn't disappoint and will return.
One thing I noticed about the girls is the amount of plastic surgery. Many girls have thinned noses, and some have puffy lips. And many have colored contacts lenses. I don't like the fakeness in appearance. But many girls work the scene too late in life and do all this to boost their looks (at least they think so). All this makes you think if there are post-op trannies out working and not telling guys of their condition. Wow!
If you like young and pristine and thin, you can find it in Thailand at the bars. If you want elite looking you are to pay 250-300 usd or more. Just check out massagerepublic to see the money they want. And Russian girls are that much or more.
[QUOTE=Chicharito99;3031520]Hey Guys,
I'm a few days in and trying to feel my way around. I wanted to read the forum first and not ask needless questions. Please I need to know, what are options available if one didn't want to play the barfine, lady drinks or pulling massage parlour ladies games? Like are their locations where you can get a line up, pay a fixed amount for a fixed time, and reasonably expect the lady to allow you finish within the time you paid for?
All I have seen so far are ladies out front that look bored and uninterested, or ones that hustle you the moment you step in, and get rude once you don't take them, even at the gentlemen's clubs, even during the day.
I had good experience with several massage parlours in Bangkok, girls who try to be pleasant. Is that kind of thing obtainable at any locatios, or it's a different culture down here?[/QUOTE]Bars? Loud music and drinking. I can afford the drinks and for the girls but I stopped drinking for almost 8 years so don't want to be in that environment. Not to put any bar goers down, I think if you enjoy that, then by all means do it. For non bar people, here are my suggestions.
1. Beach road. Lots of freelancers and few pretty and most ugly. All good choose and move on. Price range was like 1000-1500 and if you want kinky shit, that will be more.
2. TH is full of hoes and some are nice looking. I would recommend video chatting the ones you want because photos can lie.
3. some girls hang out on second road but I did not see any hotties. Many chubbies and / or older ones.
4. Wait until the bars close. Not all girls get customers and finish the night with little money in their pockets. If you are jet lagged, then 3/4 am is a perfect time to monger. Most go on the beach and hang out with their friends / BF / etc.
5. If you have time, you can pick up local girls. But most dudes don't have months on the ground so not use talking about it.
Good luck and have fun.
Hi,
Heard lot about Tulip in Bangkok for PSE experience.
Is there anything similar available in Pattaya to get the PSE experience?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3031476]I cannot imagine setting appointments with TF girls 3 days in advance. In most cases, you will have long been forgotten before appointment time. Heck, I don't even set appointments 3 hours in advance, if she gets an offer for an hour before your time and that is more convenient, she will go to that other offer and forget you. I normally ask "are you available right now?[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Cannot make appointment with hookers. Their business is to make money and if another customer comes ready with cash in hand or wants to pay more, they are gone. This is a good point because some guys think the girls wants to see because of me and they put all of their eggs in one basket. When the ***** no shows, then what? Get sad and ponder why? It's a business transaction and that's all!
[QUOTE=Andres901;3031710]I agree 100%. Cannot make appointment with hookers. Their business is to make money and if another customer comes ready with cash in hand or wants to pay more, they are gone. This is a good point because some guys think the girls wants to see because of me and they put all of their eggs in one basket. When the ***** no shows, then what? Get sad and ponder why? It's a business transaction and that's all![/QUOTE]You guys think it is all about money and some other guy paying more or beating you to the punch. That is not it at all. Most times the chicks are just hanging out with their friends and it is not about business or some other guy. They are not hookers 24/7; they have regular lives and leisure too. You just have to catch them at an I need this money time and not an I just want to hang out with my friends time.
[QUOTE=Andres901;3031710]I agree 100%. Cannot make appointment with hookers. Their business is to make money and if another customer comes ready with cash in hand or wants to pay more, they are gone. This is a good point because some guys think the girls wants to see because of me and they put all of their eggs in one basket. When the ***** no shows, then what? Get sad and ponder why? It's a business transaction and that's all![/QUOTE]You can't make appointments in advanced. For some girls, you can't even make appointments for tomorrow. They live in the moment, literally.
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3031651]Hi,
Heard lot about Tulip in Bangkok for PSE experience.
Is there anything similar available in Pattaya to get the PSE experience?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Short answer is NO, there is nowhere in Pattaya with a lineup of guaranteed PSE providers. Devil's Den was the only one of it's kind and it's long gone.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3031857]Short answer is NO, there is nowhere in Pattaya with a lineup of guaranteed PSE providers. Devil's Den was the only one of it's kind and it's long gone.[/QUOTE]Add Red Fern to that list of providers in Bangkok, located in Soi 7/1 Alley, the resurrected Eden, Devil Dens Bangkok twin.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;3031416]One think I noted is that the town is coming Indian, with many Indian tourists. But many girls on massagerepublic site say 'no Indians'. I bet that really limits their clientele. When I was at the Honey fishbowl shops looking at the girls, there were often groups of 5 or so Indian guys. One thing I noticed is there often is some body odor. Maybe that is what keeps the girls from wanting boom boom?[/QUOTE]Put yourself in the girls shoes, it's hard to provide a service or even fuck when the body odour makes you want to vomit.
And that can be an issue with many ethnic groups visiting, not just Indians, the great unwashed Poms of the past come to mind too.
Tho with Indians as a grouping, this issues are much more culturally based around respect, things like bargaining, cheap charlie, grouping, is something of an anathema to Thai culture.
Pattaya has seen many "eras" in the past 2 decades:
The era of the old farts, back around 2010 and before the retirees from Europe / US were the majority. Some say that was the golden era.
Then came the era of the Russians. They didn't really interact much with the bars, and were mostly families.
Then the era of the Chinese. Also not really bar customers, mostly tour groups.
Then Covid. The death of like half of the businesses in Pattaya.
Then Koreans. Great for the girls and some bars, but they inflated the prices for everyone else.
And now Indians. They want the bars but their behaviour, cheapness and personal hygiene make it a challenge for bar owners and girls.
Wonder what the next era will be.
Yesterday, I was sitting in a bar on Soi 6. It was around 8 pm Across the street was a bar with lots of pretty girls. One of them was holding up a sign that read: "Lady drinks only 195 baht. " Before, I thought the bar owners were just too stupid to realize they were ruining their business. Since yesterday, I've been thinking they were doing it on purpose.
Needless to say, the bar was empty.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3032381]Wonder what the next era will be.[/QUOTE]I have been visiting LOS since 1989 and Pattaya since 2000. The real golden age or the development age was before Aids ie before 1982. The comercial Golden Age was between 1989 to 2009 when Pat was the best place in the world to get laid. It has been in decline ever since but it was still pretty good up to Covid.
Post Covid, however, Pattaya seems to have entered the era of over tourism noted by a change in attitude among the providers and with discernably less quality girls offering less quality service at inflated prices. I think Pattaya may be through as a high-quality mongering destination for discerning punters and is rapidly becoming a sex tourist trap. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3032381]Pattaya has seen many "eras" in the past 2 decades:
Wonder what the next era will be.[/QUOTE]Great observation. I predict the next era will be single women. I have noticed them on the rise. Caught me by surprise riding down beach road and two young foreign women asked a motorbike taxi where they could rent a motorbike.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032410]Great observation. I predict the next era will be single women. I have noticed them on the rise. Caught me by surprise riding down beach road and two young foreign women asked a motorbike taxi where they could rent a motorbike.[/QUOTE]Unescorted farang women has been a trend in Samui for at least since 2022. In March 2025, I noticed as many unescorted farang women as unescorted farang men. Sometimes just an individual woman, sometimes groups as large as about 4. Samui has evolved from a punters destination 10 years ago to couples and families. I doubt the same will happen in Pattaya unless the reputation as P4P capital is softened.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3032467]Samui has evolved from a punters destination 10 years ago to couples and families. I doubt the same will happen in Pattaya unless the reputation as P4P capital is softened.[/QUOTE]Well if you let some folks on this board tell it, sex is so hard to get these days in Pattaya that it might as well not have a P4P reputation.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032475]Well if you let some folks on this board tell it, sex is so hard to get these days in Pattaya that it might as well not have a P4P reputation.[/QUOTE]It is hard to get on Soi 6 with an attractive Girl. They won't even look at You. Hahaha. Its impossible to get eye contact with a Mods girl. Undoubtedly the best looker there- would barfine her for 2,000 but not 4,000.
[QUOTE=MadDin19;3032386]Yesterday, I was sitting in a bar on Soi 6. It was around 8 pm Across the street was a bar with lots of pretty girls. One of them was holding up a sign that read: "Lady drinks only 195 baht. " Before, I thought the bar owners were just too stupid to realize they were ruining their business. Since yesterday, I've been thinking they were doing it on purpose.
Needless to say, the bar was empty.[/QUOTE]There are at least 10-15 bars on the Soi charging 210+ baht for a lady drink, how is 195 baht that bad?
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3032584]There are at least 10-15 bars on the Soi charging 210+ baht for a lady drink, how is 195 baht that bad?[/QUOTE]Well the 195 is bad; the 210+ is preposterous. Do you remember how much Thais make in 1 day? 350 baht. Imagine a bar in your country where 1 drink would set you back almost 1 day's salary.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3032584]There are at least 10-15 bars on the Soi charging 210+ baht for a lady drink, how is 195 baht that bad?[/QUOTE]The bad thing is that I didn't pay 195 THB for a small glass of sugar water. Then the ladies wouldn't earn anything, and neither would the bar owner.
That's exactly why the bar was empty. A dozen really pretty girls outside at 8 pm, and no one came in. LOL.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3032401]I think Pattaya may be through as a high-quality mongering destination for discerning punters and is rapidly becoming a sex tourist trap. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so.[/QUOTE]No issues finding extremely good looking girls at top tier WS gogo bars this week. Problem is members on this board have this perception that gogo bars are too expensive. Prices for gogo girls haven't changed since I started coming in 2015! Barfines and LD yes but not the amount a girl gets. Always been 3k/5k to the girl.
With Soi 6 LD now 210 baht and gogo bar LD 195 to 250 makes no sense to me to even consider buying a LD on 6. Are the girls on 6 at least giving DFK and mutual groping for these higher priced LD? Been here almost a week now and haven't set foot on 6.
With thanks for the inputs I got for my queries, this is how my Pattaya trip went. I have included info about places I did not indulge in but only visited too. Since it was my first time in Pattaya I was open to trying everything. Did not have a fixed agenda and plan. Taking it as it comes.
Landing early AM in DMK, I had booked the bus to Pattaya and landed in the hotel for breakfast. I stayed at the Leela Resort and Spa, a 5 min walk from Soi 6. Slept through most of the day and headed to Soi 6 in the evening. Having been to Nana Plaza multiple times, Soi 6 felt strangely familiar. Chatted and played with the girls that tried to pull me in, but did not go into any bar. The asking seemed quite high to. With no bargain - 2000ST and 400 for room upstairs, this was before I got into the bar and had any drinks for me or her. So guessed net would be around 3-3. 5 K THB there.
After the travel wanted a more calm environment to release, so took a Grab bike to Soi Honey looking up the massage places. One girl in front of Paradise Massage caught my eye, and she called out to me. 1500 THB for everything with the curtains drawn upstairs, she was a cute late 20's girl with a bit of flesh in the right places.
Next day started at Red Point bar on Soi 6, it started raining and this place is closed and has plush interiors. However the girls are not pushy. No lady drinks to be bought, you call them if you want to else they let you have a beer in peace. Loved the place, but the girls were not to my liking. After 30 minutes left and walked up to one of the BJ bars, King Kong. Again the ladies seemed older than my liking, told them would come again to check others. I had pinged a few TF profiles earlier in the day (with premium subscription) and saw some had replied. Started chatting with one of them who I liked, and did a quick video call to confirm. She was open to meet around 11.30 pm. Shared hotel info, and went back.
She turned out much better than pics and video. Cute girl in early 20's, short and shapely, long curls. Soft burger buns for an ass, and loved to suck. As much as I wanted to go longer, she got me off quicker than I wanted. In fact, she was so good I told her to keep the next evening free for a repeat. 2 K well spent on home pitch. Added bonus, she spoke decent English to hold a conversation.
Walked out to Beach road around 1 am, and chatted with some of the pick up girls there. Asked from 1000 to 3000 baht, all ages, all sizes. Some of the African girls (Madagascar) were good but wanted 2000 for ST.
Reviewed some of the other TF replies, video called a few more and said "sorry", they were no where close to the pics posted. A few were working bar girls, and could only meet evening before they started work. Not my preferred time. One of the girls on TF asked me to come to her spa in Soi 13/2, went by the next day to see her. Was quite accurate as the pics but I had other plans.
Having done soapies in Bangkok and Seoul, wanted to check the famous Honey and Sabai Dee here. SD was a big let down, not one girl was passable for me. Esp for the prices asked. Honey 2 nearby had a much better choice, but I was in no mood to splurge on an experience already done.
Again a walk on Soi 6 next day, earlier in the afternoon to catch the girls fresh. Went to My Friend You Bar, another BJ bar there. Sat with a beer and found a couple of cuties, but more chubby ones. 800 for BJ was the ask, headed to Soi Bong Koch. The newer strip of BJ bars. Passed by Bada Bing (not many girls early afternoon), Pirates (a few good ones), and a MILF in Amsterdam caught my eye. She smiled, and I walked to her. Spacious and near interiors, got a drink and chatted with her. Offered ST for 1500, but I told her I was only interested in BJ. Asked 1000 to cover the drink, room upstairs and BJ. Hands down, one of the best BJs I have had. She knew the art of sucking. If I compare other BJs to a train on tracks (you feel the teeth once in a while), this one was MagLev.. It was like an invisible soft pressure on the dick from her mouth. Simply loved it!!
It was time for some more TF reviews, found another stunner there would was ready to meet the next day. She was tall, and had long hair. Both pluses for me. Fixed a time and she came to the hotel. Spoke even better English, and was funny. Slim and a great ass, but her bee cups boobs were a bit of letdown. She seemed new into this from the reactions to fast and slow strokes in missionary, but that ass begged for a doggy. She took a long hard pounding. Another 2 K in home pitch.
Overall a satisfying and memorable trip. Yes, I skipped WS and also the gentleman clubs. Need them as reasons for the next trip.
Some random things -.
Even on TF there are 30+ year olds asking 2500 for ST.
Russians asking 4000. Bloody costlier than Dubai.
Lady drinks on Soi 6 are double - 100 for a Chang beer, 200 for her drink. That's why I found TF better, but it takes time. Met 2 out of 40 responses, of which I video called maybe 8-10.
[QUOTE=MadDin19;3032751]The bad thing is that I didn't pay 195 THB for a small glass of sugar water. Then the ladies wouldn't earn anything, and neither would the bar owner.
That's exactly why the bar was empty. A dozen really pretty girls outside at 8 pm, and no one came in. LOL.[/QUOTE]There is no bar on Soi 6 wit 12 pretty girls outside at 8 pm. Never, ever, nor will there ever Be.
[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;3032783]With thanks for the inputs I got for my queries, this is how my Pattaya trip went. [/QUOTE]I have no plans on going to Pattaya, but thanks for this wonderfulreport. A really good read.
I'm actually in Pattaya and like everyday I start mongering in Soi 6. Yesterday I got great time in Wrath Bar. I found a nice sexy Thai girl who is 25 and after a drink with her, she proposed me directly to go upstairs for 2000 bahts. She was so sexy that I didn't try to negotiate. She asked me if I've condoms, I said NO, the she said she had condoms. At the beginning I was little bit disappointed because I was thinking she wants to fuck only with condoms. And finally in the room, after a qhick shower, like always, I start to kiss her deeply with DFK then I love licking pussy during long time. She felt good and then I decided to fuck her nicely, she told me to put condom but I asked her if she was OK if I fuck her bareback, then she told me OK but want 1000 more. I was OK and we go a great session. After 30 minutes fucking good and kissing in many positions I came inside her pussy. After she gave me her Line, and then I proposed her to buy her another drink because she was really nice. So we took again a drink we spoke more about her situation, and then in the same bar I found another very young girl sexy who was 19. I asked my girl I just fuck if she was there when I arrived because I didn't see her. And she told me she was already with a customer upstairs and she s news in the bar and because she 's really young and sexy she has lot of customers.
On that moment, I asked my girl if she's ok I fuck her too. I could see she was little bit angry and told me, thet I just fucked her, and why I wanted to fuck again a new girl? Then I told her, nicely please to introduce me to her and I decided to give her 500 bahts more. Then she was totally OK to introduce me to her. She called her, paid 1 more drink to my girl and a first lady drink to the new girl a, the we started to chat all 3. I started to kiss them deeply, both of them. I was horny again. Then directly my girl asked me if I wanted to fuck this new young lady. Of course I said to her, and I told her that I want fuck her bareback too. She told me OK no problem and then we went again upstairs and I fucked her too. And she was fucking good. The lady told me I was the second customer of the day. I did a BBFS CIP to her too. She gave me her Line too.
I think I'll propose them to do a trio together this week directly in my hotel.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3031108]All my recent experiences in Pattaya were raw, from my experience I'd say since 2018 or so it's been easier than ever to get BBFS. It still is widely available.
But I agree with you, once another country with similar looks (Cambodia, Vietnam etc) can offer girls that are cute and BB friendly for reasonable prices, Pattaya will lose a lot. Apparently AC has BB available everywhere but apart from that the place has way too many downsides to be a viable replacement for Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gilolo;3032988](...)Of course I said to her, and I told her that I want fuck her bareback too. She told me OK no problem and then we went again upstairs and I fucked her too. And she was fucking good.(...)
I think I'll propose them to do a trio together this week directly in my hotel.[/QUOTE]Exactly, there are plenty of good looking girls in Soi 6 that will allow BBFS for a reasonable price. There are many that say Soi 6 is doomed, but to me it's even better than before.
Of course it's not 2011 anymore, but the girls look so much better / cleaner on average and BBFS is much easier to get. Yes the girl price doubled and drinks are up like 50%, but aren't we all making more money than we did in 2011?
Came across few instances where the girl in the profile is different than in the line / whatsapp, when I enquired they mention the girl in profile is her friend who has gone on a holiday and asked her to run it till she returns. Kind of sketchy! Either it's an agent or girl trying to bait and switch.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3033065]Exactly, there are plenty of good looking girls in Soi 6 that will allow BBFS for a reasonable price. There are many that say Soi 6 is doomed, but to me it's even better than before.
Of course it's not 2011 anymore, but the girls look so much better / cleaner on average and BBFS is much easier to get. Yes the girl price doubled and drinks are up like 50%, but aren't we all making more money than we did in 2011?[/QUOTE]Prices were stable for a long time and have only doubled in the last three years. Are you earning twice as much today as you will in 2022. ?
Besides, you're forgetting Thai logic. If the price could double that quickly, 3000 will be the new 2000 in a year.
I think Pattaya, PP in Cambodia and Medellin in Colombia are the best countries to get BBFS with young sexy girls! Even if prices increased since covid, I don't care, it's still very cheap and seriously when you can do BBFS with young sexy girl in good health for even 50 or 100 dollars we can still say it's very cheap. 20 years I travel all over the world, I fucked maybe a thousand of girls BBFS and I never catch anything! Just need to be careful of the irl you choose.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3033065]Exactly, there are plenty of good looking girls in Soi 6 that will allow BBFS for a reasonable price. There are many that say Soi 6 is doomed, but to me it's even better than before.
Of course it's not 2011 anymore, but the girls look so much better / cleaner on average and BBFS is much easier to get. Yes the girl price doubled and drinks are up like 50%, but aren't we all making more money than we did in 2011?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;3033066]Came across few instances where the girl in the profile is different than in the line / whatsapp, when I enquired they mention the girl in profile is her friend who has gone on a holiday and asked her to run it till she returns......[/QUOTE]Ever wondered why her friend is never hotter than her?
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3033065]Exactly, there are plenty of good looking girls in Soi 6 that will allow BBFS for a reasonable price. There are many that say Soi 6 is doomed, but to me it's even better than before.
Of course it's not 2011 anymore, but the girls look so much better / cleaner on average and BBFS is much easier to get. Yes the girl price doubled and drinks are up like 50%, but aren't we all making more money than we did in 2011?[/QUOTE]My favorite got bought a drink at Repent. Favorite in that I think she is Pretty. No contact at all.
She looked as disinterested as can be. . the guy gave up and Left.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;3033075]I think Pattaya, PP in Cambodia and Medellin in Colombia are the best countries to get BBFS with young sexy girls! Even if prices increased since covid, I don't care, it's still very cheap and seriously when you can do BBFS with young sexy girl in good health for even 50 or 100 dollars we can still say it's very cheap. 20 years I travel all over the world, I fucked maybe a thousand of girls BBFS and I never catch anything! Just need to be careful of the irl you choose.[/QUOTE]Look, I'm no angel myself when it comes to always using condoms — I've taken risks too. But what you're saying is a dangerous delusion. Just because you *think* you never caught anything doesn't mean your body agrees. Many infections stay silent for years before they show symptoms, and by then it's often too late. Pattaya isn't some romantic playground; it's one of the HIV hotspots of the world. I know girls on Soi 6 who get treated for STDs more often than they get their nails done. You're not careful — you're just lucky so far. And luck, my friend, runs out.
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3033128]Pattaya isn't some romantic playground; it's one of the HIV hotspots of the world. I know girls on Soi 6 who get treated for STDs more often than they get their nails done. You're not careful you're just lucky so far. And luck, my friend, runs out.[/QUOTE]For continuity, I’m posting this here instead of our safe sex forum.
Exactly right, they get treated. In the case of HIV, patients get evaluated quarterly and most take daily medications at home. HIV never disappears, but it gets so low that it cannot be detected by standard testing nor can it be transmitted through sex. If you go inside the Thai hospital on the quarterly HIV treatment day, there will be a lot of lady boys. There is a low female to male transmission efficiency for HIV with vaginal sex.
The success of HIV treatments is why I worry more about bacterial STDs. Those of us who do BB also need to get tested and appropriately treated. I do it before travel, plus a mid trip test, plus a test when I return home.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3033100]My favorite got bought a drink at Repent. Favorite in that I think she is Pretty. No contact at all.
She looked as disinterested as can be. . the guy gave up and Left.[/QUOTE]What is better?
That she shows you directly in the bar how much she is not into you or that she plays around with you, make you buy her two or three drinks, pay for the room only to find at the worst moment that she is disgusted by you?
Hey, what are recent prices of bar girls and freelancers?
I haven't mongered in Asia but just to understand, there bar girls, freelancers, and massage parlors? Or just the first two?
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3033070]Prices were stable for a long time and have only doubled in the last three years. Are you earning twice as much today as you will in 2022. ?
Besides, you're forgetting Thai logic. If the price could double that quickly, 3000 will be the new 2000 in a year.[/QUOTE]No, they haven't doubled in 3 years, they've doubled when compared to 2014.
In 2014 I was paying them 1000 b.
In 2019 I was paying them 1500 b.
In the past 2 years I've been paying them 2000 b.
As for the rest of the package:
Lady drinks were on average around 140 b in 2014, now it's 190 b. 35% increase.
ST rooms were on average 300 b in 2014, now it's 400 b. 33% increase.
The only thing that went crazy up in price is the LT BF if you are taking the girl early (around 3 k now, used to be 1 k max) which is due to some customers (Koreans mostly) always taking the hot ones out before the bar even opens.
To me the only thing that offers a competitive bang for the buck are some gentlemen clubs if you don't mind the girls looking a bit uglier. Similar prices and a great experience as well.
Everywhere else in the rest of the world is either much more expensive, dangerous, limited selection, locals only, ugly, condom for everything or a combination of those things.
I'm seeing some debate on current prices.
I'm going to Pattaya in a month and curious about price breakdown for different areas, venues, and type of girl?
How does walking road compare to soi 6 for example? Freelancers vs gogo bar?
Basically what are the averages? It seems that gogo bar is most expensive.
Finally took a walk down Soi 6. Really was killing time between dinner and heading to WS.
First noticeable thing was the amount of vloggers on Soi 6. All young Korean or Japanese guys. Some accepted by the girls and have the ability to walk right up to them. Others clearly not appreciative of the vlogger. If you're worried about being on the IG Tiktok YT etc DO NOT walk along Soi 6. FYI as always the cars that drive slowly down Soi 6 have cams too. These are the closet vloggers.
Second noticeable thing was just the vast amount of girls currently on 6. I don't recall this many girls on 6 dating back to maybe 2016. My friend who is a Soi 6 specialist told me it's been like this on 6 for some time. Being an unfamiliar face as an infrequent visitor to 6 it took a very long time walking through the first time being pulled and grabbed by countless girls many of whom were lets just say not the best girls on the 6.
Girl quality? Well it's the 6 so not even close to the top gogo bar I visit nightly but if you're looking for average gogo bar or LK gogo level girls there are plenty on 6. Pure numbers makes it difficult not to find someone you like.
Prices? The girl who appealed to me the most walking by was a really petite Ariana Grande girl who worked at a Nightwish bar. Very hands on more so her on me than me on her. She didn't seem liking me with clothes on for some reason. My buddy picked a dud from the line up. 2 LD plus my non alcoholic drink was 590. Forgot to look at the breakdown. I'm guessing 130 for mine and 230 for LD? I also tipped my girl for her efforts. I didn't get BF price as I didn't want to encourage her more than her persistent pestering that she was going to rock my world upstairs. Once she got the hint I wasn't going upstairs she asked me to buy her 6 Tequila shots. That was my cue to leave.
Bar greed? Tons of guys walking the 6 but if you look inside the bars many including Nightwish bars were void of men. I'm not sure how many of the bars with not the best girls will survive.
For sh1ts and giggles I decided to go to a Honey 2 on 2nd Road after Soi 6. I was handed a price list or 5 or 6 tiers. I asked him if this was the Farang or local price list. Guy said only one price list which I knew was complete BS. Prices ranged from either 2900 or 3900 to 6600. The top 2 tiers sit behind you if you are looking at the main girl area. I knew within seconds I wasn't choosing anyone from the lower 4 tiers. I'm after top gogo girl quality only. I'm assuming the guy got the hint and dropped every tier pricing by 700 baht making the most expensive tier 5900. I bet I could have got more off as there were not many potential customers and a fair number of girls.
There was one single girl I would have taken. A girl I would have easily bought 3-6 LD for in a gogo if she were fun. However, for me to hand over 5900 baht (or less if I feel like negotiating) without knowing her personality other than her smile is tough for me to do. It was a nice smile though. I'm not a Soapie guy. I'm a gogo guy cause I get to spend time with the girls to assess their fun factor. Soapies are great for guys who have never tried it before but after a couple/few the routine becomes redundant and even annoying.
Great report BB. Experienced the increase in numbers on Soi 6 when I was there in March. There were gems to be found but you had to look long and hard. Agree also about the pesty vloggers. The soapies can be an experience but not my scene either. That said, I did try one in March in BKK and it was about 2000 Baht if I recall. Girl was very good and actually too good looking to be a soapie girl. Good experience but prefer the bar and gogo scene.
I have just got back from PP and can say that the bars there also have a lot of girls. Seems that the standard ask is three LD drinks before they leave the bar however the repeat does not require that. Cambo girls are not as hardened as the Thai bar girls and a lot more GF once they are comfortable with you. I will be back there early next year again. Keep well and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3033607]Finally took a walk down Soi 6. Really was killing time between dinner and heading to WS.
First noticeable thing was the amount of vloggers on Soi 6. All young Korean or Japanese guys. Some accepted by the girls and have the ability to walk right up to them. Others clearly not appreciative of the vlogger. If you're worried about being on the IG Tiktok YT etc DO NOT walk along Soi 6. FYI as always the cars that drive slowly down Soi 6 have cams too. These are the closet vloggers.
Second noticeable thing was just the vast amount of girls currently on 6. I don't recall this many girls on 6 dating back to maybe 2016. My friend who is a Soi 6 specialist told me it's been like this on 6 for some time. Being an unfamiliar face as an infrequent visitor to 6 it took a very long time walking through the first time being pulled and grabbed by countless girls many of whom were lets just say not the best girls on the 6.
Girl quality? Well it's the 6 so not even close to the top gogo bar I visit nightly but if you're looking for average gogo bar or LK gogo level girls there are plenty on 6. Pure numbers makes it difficult not to find someone you like.
Prices? The girl who appealed to me the most walking by was a really petite Ariana Grande girl who worked at a Nightwish bar. Very hands on more so her on me than me on her. She didn't seem liking me with clothes on for some reason. My buddy picked a dud from the line up. 2 LD plus my non alcoholic drink was 590. Forgot to look at the breakdown. I'm guessing 130 for mine and 230 for LD? I also tipped my girl for her efforts. I didn't get BF price as I didn't want to encourage her more than her persistent pestering that she was going to rock my world upstairs. Once she got the hint I wasn't going upstairs she asked me to buy her 6 Tequila shots. That was my cue to leave.
Bar greed? Tons of guys walking the 6 but if you look inside the bars many including Nightwish bars were void of men. I'm not sure how many of the bars with not the best girls will survive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3033608]Soapies are great for guys who have never tried it before but after a couple/few the routine becomes redundant and even annoying.[/QUOTE]True. It is more of a novelty thing to me. I know I have done it once. Having a hard time thinking if I have done it twice. I for sure have not done it 3 times. But I always take friends who are town for the first time so they can experience it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3033607]The girl who appealed to me the most walking by was a really petite Ariana Grande girl who worked at a Nightwish bar. Very hands on more so her on me than me on her. She didn't seem liking me with clothes on for some reason. I didn't get BF price as I didn't want to encourage her more than her persistent pestering that she was going to rock my world upstairs. Once she got the hint I wasn't going upstairs she asked me to buy her 6 Tequila shots. That was my cue to leave.[/QUOTE]A lot of guys here talk about buying a bunch of drinks and then the girl won't go upstairs with them. At least your girl was initially trying to get you to go fuck, then when you would not, figured you were there just to buy a bunch of drinks.
[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3033409]I'm seeing some debate on current prices.
I'm going to Pattaya in a month and curious about price breakdown for different areas, venues, and type of girl?
How does walking road compare to soi 6 for example? Freelancers vs gogo bar?
Basically what are the averages? It seems that gogo bar is most expensive.[/QUOTE]Short version:
Soi 6: average price, the girls are pretty much the same as the ones in the gogo, but look worse because you are seeing them in natural light. Overall it's the best bang for the buck imo as long as you are able to choose the girl wisely. Nothing beats the convenience with the insane amount of girls in the same street, you can choose from the street. All with the advantage of having ST rooms above the bars. Not as intimate as a GC downstairs but you can have a little bit of play.
Gentlemen clubs (CGs): below average price, the girls are usually not good looking but you can find diamonds in the rough. Great bang for the buck as well, best option if you like to get frisky before confirming your choice. Downside is that you can't really see the girls unless you go in, the girls rarely hang in the street. Also almost all GCs have rooms which is convenient.
Gogos: higher prices, the girls will look amazing but it's mostly due to good production and a coloured light that will hide imperfections. Very few would have a room so you'll need to take them to your hotel or get a nearby room.
Thaifriendly (TF): cheapest option as you don't have to pay BF / drinks / room. BUT it's a lot of hit and miss, and in many cases you will lose precious hours of your trip waiting for a girl that is hours late (and sometimes will ghost you and not show up). Better for retired expats who have plenty of spare time and don't mind the occasional time waster.
Other bars scattered around town (not soi6): reasonable selection, but not all in one place. Prices might be a bit lower than Soi6. There are a few clusters with interesting options such as Soi 7, Soi Buakhao and Soi Chaiyapoon, but can't really compare to the sheer numbers of Soi6. Also, very few open front bars outside Soi6 will have ST rooms.
Personally, I like having a taste of what I am barfining before making my final decision. A few minutes with the girl in a "touchy" environment and I will know if she is worth the BF, this is why GCs and Soi6 are my preferred choices.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3034025]Short version:
Soi 6: average price, the girls are pretty much the same as the ones in the gogo, but look worse because you are seeing them in natural light. Overall it's the best bang for the buck imo as long as you are able to choose the girl wisely. Nothing beats the convenience with the insane amount of girls in the same street, you can choose from the street. All with the advantage of having ST rooms above the bars. Not as intimate as a GC downstairs but you can have a little bit of play.
Gentlemen clubs (CGs): below average price, the girls are usually not good looking but you can find diamonds in the rough. Great bang for the buck as well, best option if you like to get frisky before confirming your choice. Downside is that you can't really see the girls unless you go in, the girls rarely hang in the street. Also almost all GCs have rooms which is convenient..[/QUOTE]Here some addition:
Soi 6: not all place have room upstairs, but there is ST hotel near, the girls know them, just ask. Lots of bar have girls who aren't going upstairs or who can be very selective. A girls not interested to go upstair isn't going to refuse your drink. So its better to be specific ASAP. Some place have girls very cute who seem to be there only to pull you inside the bar, they go back outside instantly. I has lots of bad experience in place managed by falang, the nightwish group bar are very pushy on alcohol, and chilling. I never had a 'no' from girls who work in bar who arent in NWG, there was rumour about minimum drink before going upstairs but I can't confirm. The girls are very cute but if you plan to go upstair its better to ask before beginning to pay for LD. If you can get a price on the street before going inside its usually a bad things and I suggest to skip if you are there for ST. 2000 seem to be the standard, you can get lower.
Gentlemen clubs (CGs): I never seen a cute girls once in a GC. Its 6 and below and the girls are usually near 40 and its the baby damage festival in a lot of them.
Gogos: gogo in Pattaya worth it if you don't go in Pattaya often, but if you travel in Thailand the best place for gogo is nana plaza in Bangkok. The price and BF are more standardized in BKK, in Pattaya the mamasan can quickly ruin your night by adding x2 and even x3 the price you got from a girl and the BF depend of the mamasan mood. I seen crazy BF on WAS, some asked me 4000 once.
Thaifriendly (TF): prepare your list before going in Thailand, like 1-2 week before. Don't waste time talking go straight to the point. Ask line then ask the price for ST. Girls who are not FL arent going to give you her line instantly like a FL. Ask some picture on line (no need to be nude, never send money especially not for pictures.).
Other bars scattered around town (not soi6): rent a room near LK area, its the best spot to walk around and visit bar like this. There is tons of them in the area and tree town is like a 5 minutes walk from there.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034094]Here some addition:
Soi 6: not all place have room upstair, but there is ST hotel near, the girls know them, just ask. Lots of bar have girls who arent going upstair or who can be very selective. A girlsnot interested to go upstair isn't going to refuse your drink. So its better to be specific ASAP. Some place have girls very cute who seem to be there only to pull you inside the bar, they go back outside instantly. I has lots of bad experience in place managed by falang, the nightwish group bar are very pushy on alcohol, and chilling. I never had a 'no' from girls who work in bar who arent in NWG, there was rumour about minimum drink before going upstair but I can't confirm. The girls are very cute but if you plan to go upstair its better to ask before begining to pay for LD. If you can get a price on the street before going inside its usually a bad things and I suggest to skip if you are there for ST. 2000 seem to be the standard, you can get lower.
Gentlemen clubs (CGs): I never seen a cute girls once in a GC. Its 6 and below and the girls are usually near 40 and its the baby damage festival in a lot of them.
.[/QUOTE]Personally, I loved Soi 6 when I visited Pattaya my one and only time in 2023. I appreciated the simplicity of it all. Tons of girls, all the booze you could drink and rooms upstairs, if and when you needed them.
Have to admit, my favorite spot in Pattaya was a gents club called Heaven Above on Soi Boomerang. That place was rocking every time I went in.
[QUOTE=TnJed;3034158]Personally, I loved Soi 6 when I visited Pattaya my one and only time in 2023. I appreciated the simplicity of it all. Tons of girls, all the booze you could drink and rooms upstairs, if and when you needed them.[/QUOTE]What you say is true. But only if you're willing to pay any price.
My problem with Soi 6 is that I know what it was like there 15 years ago. You only had to go to one bar and you were successful. The girls didn't want anything to drink and didn't even ask for it. ST 700 + room 300. Now Soi 6 is a tourist circus that's almost exclusively about overpriced LDs.
But if you were there for the first time in 2023, I can understand you. Have fun.
Anyone do short time with Desire Livestream girl number 92?
[QUOTE=TnJed;3034158]Personally, I loved Soi 6 when I visited Pattaya my one and only time in 2023. I appreciated the simplicity of it all. Tons of girls, all the booze you could drink and rooms upstairs, if and when you needed them.
Have to admit, my favorite spot in Pattaya was a gents club called Heaven Above on Soi Boomerang. That place was rocking every time I went in.[/QUOTE]It's a good spot. I live just a few steps away. Hideaway, on the corner of Bomerang and Soi 15 has about the best burghers in town. For cheap. The girls in Heaven Above are all very hands on. You can get a bad night when the KFC afficionados are working and a majority will be very overweight.
LK is always fun and doesn't seem as mercenary as Walking Street. A nice mix if strip clubs, usually younger women and very hands-on. Worth a couple of passes. The Go Go to the left of "Top Gun" has very friendly, very pretty and very hands-on lovelies. Worth a stop. In Tree Town, also very much worth a stop, is Gold Moon Bar where freelancer "Ae" works from about 9 PM. Gold Moon Bar is on the south side toward the Skaw Beach sign and second Road. She's very pretty, nice body, great smile (perfect teeth) and loves beer. By six or eight or so beers she'll have quite a buzz and gets accommodating. Tell her that her very old American Farang recommended her. You won't be sorry.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034094]Here some addition:
Soi 6: not all place have room upstair, but there is ST hotel near, the girls know them, just ask. Lots of bar have girls who arent going upstair or who can be very selective. A girlsnot interested to go upstair isn't going to refuse your drink. So its better to be specific ASAP. Some place have girls very cute who seem to be there only to pull you inside the bar, they go back outside instantly. I has lots of bad experience in place managed by falang, the nightwish group bar are very pushy on alcohol, and chilling. I never had a 'no' from girls who work in bar who arent in NWG, there was rumour about minimum drink before going upstair but I can't confirm. The girls are very cute but if you plan to go upstair its better to ask before begining to pay for LD. If you can get a price on the street before going inside its usually a bad things and I suggest to skip if you are there for ST. 2000 seem to be the standard, you can get lower..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034094]Thaifriendly (TF): prepare your list before going in thailand, like 1-2 week before. Don't waste time talknig go stright to the point. Ask line then ask the price for ST. [b]Girls who are not FL arent going to give you her line instantly like a FL.[/b] [/QUOTE]This is not true at all. I have met many of my normal girlfriends on Thai Friendly and they all gave me their info instantly. I think it is more of a western thing chicks not wanting to give you their contact info. Chicks in Asia will do if even if they just ignore you after you try to contact them through it.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;3033066]Came across few instances where the girl in the profile is different than in the line / whatsapp, when I enquired they mention the girl in profile is her friend who has gone on a holiday and asked her to run it till she returns. Kind of sketchy! Either it's an agent or girl trying to bait and switch.[/QUOTE]I noticed this for the first time last summer too. Agents on thaifriendly. Banged one girl who'd I agreed st for 1500 with. Turned out I had agreed with an agent, for a girl visiting from pattaya. She said she only got 800 out of the 1500, and suggested I contact her directly next time. Another girl (living in Bangkok) said she got 1000 of the 1500, and had to pay taxi herself too.
Repeated a few other times with the same or other agent for other girls. After some insistence, they sent me non-photoshopped photos. Most of them I weren't interested in, but as said, invited a couple of them over.
[QUOTE=SouthEaster;3031318]Lars123 and JizzyB. You guys know of any in Jomtien? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No, I don't know any in Jomtien.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;3034478]I noticed this for the first time last summer too. Agents on thaifriendly. Banged one girl who'd I agreed st for 1500 with. Turned out I had agreed with an agent, for a girl visiting from pattaya. She said she only got 800 out of the 1500, and suggested I contact her directly next time. Another girl (living in Bangkok) said she got 1000 of the 1500, and had to pay taxi herself too.[/QUOTE]Knowing this, you should be able to understand chicks accepting the 1300 that I give them for all night. 3000 baht is preposterous.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034271]This is not true at all. I have met many of my normal girlfriends on Thai Friendly and they all gave me their info instantly. I think it is more of a western thing chicks not wanting to give you their contact info. Chicks in Asia will do if even if they just ignore you after you try to contact them through it.[/QUOTE]From my point of view, your 'normal' GF are probably selling their pussy too. tbh I use this app since so many years, and I cant count on 1 hands the 'normal' girls who gave me their line on the first question. (by normal I mean girls who totally refused all sexual proposition in exchange of money no matter what I ask and how much I offer.)
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034526]From my point of view, your 'normal' GF are probably selling their pussy too. tbh i use this app since so many years, and i cant count on 1 hands the 'normal' girls who gave me their line on the first question. (by normal i mean girls who totaly refused all sexual proposition in exange of money no matter what i ask and how much i offer.).[/QUOTE]Well unlike you, I do not make it a habit starting out talking to people by propositioning them for sex. So if the "normal" ones are selling pussy too, then it has been free to me. I have been on Thai Friendly for 18 years and all I can do it talk about my experience on the app. YMMV.
Haven't been to Pattaya in years was wondering if open air beer bars are still a thing and if the quality of Girls in then.
Are fairly decent? Any locations I think there is one called soi made in Thailand and a few down by soi Diana is there any more?
Wondering the going rate for bar fine and overnight.
[QUOTE=Delbo1;3034901]Haven't been to Pattaya in years was wondering if open air beer bars are still a thing and if the quality of Girls in then.
Are fairly decent? Any locations I think there is one called soi made in Thailand and a few down by soi Diana is there any more?
Wondering the going rate for bar fine and overnight.[/QUOTE]Not much has changed. 1000's of open air bars, gogos, etc. Everywhere. There's a bunch of open air bars on the right (beach side) just before entering Walking St. So check them out before going into W St.
Soi Buakhao also has a bunch with some good music and live bands. Soi Dianna is mostly gogos, but many open air bars closeby. Prices are higher in gogos with BFs ranging from 700 - 1500 depending on the girl and especially higher if she's part of a show that the gogo puts on. ST is 2000-2500. Girls prefer ST because the extra 500 or 1000 if not worth it to them for LT and another pump in the am they'd rather leave and go back to the bar to find another customer, or go out with friends / Thai BF, etc.
Soi 6 is still cheap for taking a girl upstairs in the bar for ST.
Hey guys, this is question is for the TF users. Does Bangkok or Pattaya have more Pretty girls on TF? Also, prices are about the same or girls in Bangkok ask for more or less?
Thanks Gents.
[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;3034943]Not much has changed. 1000's of open air bars, gogos, etc. Everywhere. There's a bunch of open air bars on the right (beach side) just before entering Walking St. So check them out before going into W St.
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Soi 6 is still cheap for taking a girl upstairs in the bar for ST.[/QUOTE]LOL. Back in the day, all the girls stood behind the bar, and you could make eye contact and flirt with them all. Now they all sit on the street waving in customers. The customer then sits alone at a table or at the bar. The days of good old bar beers are over.
For a shot in Soi 6, you now have to budget at least three times as much as you would have 15 years ago.
[QUOTE=Delbo1;3034901]Haven't been to Pattaya in years was wondering if open air beer bars are still a thing and if the quality of Girls in then.
Are fairly decent? Any locations I think there is one called soi made in Thailand and a few down by soi Diana is there any more?
Wondering the going rate for bar fine and overnight.[/QUOTE]To answer that question, we'd need to know when you were last there. If it was four years ago, then not much has changed. If it was ten years ago, then it's a completely different world for you now. If it was fifteen years ago, then stay home, because you'll be disappointed.
[QUOTE=MadDin19;3034991]To answer that question, we'd need to know when you were last there. If it was four years ago, then not much has changed. If it was ten years ago, then it's a completely different world for you now. If it was fifteen years ago, then stay home, because you'll be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Was there 5 years ago there's some beer bars behind tree town or in tree town. I went in to one beer bar on.
Soi buckhaow I went in sat down and drank alone whilst all the girls were outside at the front trying to entice in more customers what a waste of time I finished my beer and left not one girl was interested it was totally different to 20 years ago where girls competed to get to know you.
If a girl came and sat with me I could discuss bar fine etc.
I do not get you guys. You complain if you don't get attention and you complain if a bunch of ugly chicks crowd around you. What is the problem with grabbing the girl you like instead of all these sour grapes?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3035054]I do not get you guys. You complain if you don't get attention and you complain if a bunch of ugly chicks crowd around you. What is the problem with grabbing the girl you like instead of all these sour grapes?[/QUOTE]Well, maybe we want to be surrounded by the attractive girls and ignored by the ugly ones.
Just grabbing a pretty one who's been ignoring you before is pointless. I did that last week in Soi Bongkot. I bought her two drinks. When I asked if she'd shower with me, she said no, she had a headache.
[QUOTE=Delbo1;3035044]Was there 5 years ago there's some beer bars behind tree town or in tree town. I went in to one beer bar on.
Soi buckhaow I went in sat down and drank alone whilst all the girls were outside at the front trying to entice in more customers what a waste of time I finished my beer and left not one girl was interested it was totally different to 20 years ago where girls competed to get to know you.
If a girl came and sat with me I could discuss bar fine etc.[/QUOTE]You can't generalize all bars based on experience. Perhaps the manager at your bar had advised the ladies not to bother a customer if the initial request for a drink had been declined.
What is generally the case in Pattaya is that ladies are older and fatter.
[QUOTE=Andres901;3034988]Hey guys, this is question is for the TF users. Does Bangkok or Pattaya have more Pretty girls on TF? Also, prices are about the same or girls in Bangkok ask for more or less?
Thanks Gents.[/QUOTE]Maybe Bangkok has the prettiest girls on TF, but they are often the hardest to get. Pattaya has the most girls, and they are easy to get.
The average Bangkok girl (not a stunner, but an attractive girl next door type) usually asks around 2000 baht for a shorttime, while the average Pattaya girl asks around 1500 baht.
By the way, there is also a user blog for TF: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly[/URL].
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3035131]Maybe Bangkok has the prettiest girls on TF, but they are often the hardest to get. Pattaya has the most girls, and they are easy to get.
The average Bangkok girl (not a stunner, but an attractive girl next door type) usually asks around 2000 baht for a shorttime, while the average Pattaya girl asks around 1500 baht.
By the way, there is also a user blog for TF: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly[/URL].[/QUOTE]I never got a very good looking girl for 2 k in bkk, TF or elsewhere. On TF its 3 k for the pretty one.
Walked down Soi 6 yesterday but in the afternoon at 3 pm. Managed to get away from the Mrs and my hotel is closeby.
But I have to say, I don't think early afternoon is a great time. I remember I walked down there in the evening and I was stopped like 10-15 times & took me a full 30 minutes but yesterday hardly got approached & saw the same thing with other guys. It's logical but the later it is perhaps the more buzzed they'll be and then will be grabbing everyone. And I was walking pretty slowly and tried to make eye contact with a few but they just seemed quite disinterested. And the last 4-5 times I went there I always had a few girls grabbing etc.
[QUOTE=Sychip1;3035273]Walked down Soi 6 yesterday but in the afternoon at 3 pm. Managed to get away from the Mrs and my hotel is closeby.
But I have to say, I don't think early afternoon is a great time. I remember I walked down there in the evening and I was stopped like 10-15 times & took me a full 30 minutes but yesterday hardly got approached & saw the same thing with other guys. It's logical but the later it is perhaps the more buzzed they'll be and then will be grabbing everyone. And I was walking pretty slowly and tried to make eye contact with a few but they just seemed quite disinterested. And the last 4-5 times I went there I always had a few girls grabbing etc.[/QUOTE]3 pm is way too early, most bars start 4 pm, and even then many girls are still getting ready.
I'd say it really gets good after the sunset, as many girls also don't want to stand in the sunlight.
Having that said, there are still at least 15-20 bars that will have a decent lineup at 3pm, but they might be sitting inside of the bar because of the sun and the lack of customers on the street. If that's the only window you get, you can still make something good out of it.
Last night around 2 am, me and my co-mongering friend get contacted by 2 African working women. They were dancing, and we had a very good conversation at the Beach Road. As me and my co-mongering friend had very good experiences with African working women in especially Nairobi / Kenya, we decided to take them to the hotel. When arrived at the hotel, we went to different rooms, as me and my co-mongering friend don't want to bum bum in the same room.
At the room, that African working woman (I took) was completely different compared to very funny and entertaining working girl at the Beach Road. She made everything to turn me off. She made a long phone call with someone, while I was waiting for the action. (I guess that was her friend at the room of my co-mongering friend). No kiss. No sucking dick at all. She refused to take a bath before the action. I put a condom and fucked her around 5 minutes. And as she was lying as a dead starfish in the bed, I pulled the condom off. Paid money and kicked her out of my room. She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her. Any way, it was just money.
My co-mongering friend had the exact same experience, as my experience.
In short: avoid African working women in Pattaya. If you want to bum bum African working women, travel to an African country. African working women in Pattaya are full of scams.
Best regards,
Kim.
Ahahah, for me who like young/slim/cute/all-nighters, a LOT has changed from 4 years ago.
[B]Walking Street[/B] is all Indian now, except for the late-night discos still popular with young westerners. The Gogos there are borderline ripoffs nowadays.
[B]Soi 6[/B] has become much more drink-centric and ST in bar, as Mamasans run the show. A lot more SE asians customers. A couple of bars still have old-style managers to smooth things out though.
The older westerners moved to [B]Bouakhao[/B] and the more edgy bars beyond (Bong Koch, Khao Talo etc.). Even Bouakhao is a lot more transactional than before. There are still some wild party bars, but mostly older / fatter woman. [b]Jomtien[/b] has more preserved its old-style beach town vibe.
[B]ThaiFriendly[/B] is 99% hardcore hookers now, the kind you find on beach road at night. As bad as the other online platforms.
[B]Prices have increased by 50%[/B] from a few years back, especially bar fines and high end. The low end is still below 2 k for the night, but most cute young girls will start at 5 k.
[B]Girls are a lot more hard-core[/B], and your look will matter a lot more now to even get the really cute one.
Pattaya is still a great party city, but no longer a monger paradise.
Sammy Sosa.
[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;3034943]Not much has changed. 1000's of open air bars, gogos, etc. Everywhere. There's a bunch of open air bars on the right (beach side) just before entering Walking St. So check them out before going into W St.
Soi Buakhao also has a bunch with some good music and live bands. Soi Dianna is mostly gogos, but many open air bars closeby. Prices are higher in gogos with BFs ranging from 700 - 1500 depending on the girl and especially higher if she's part of a show that the gogo puts on. ST is 2000-2500. Girls prefer ST because the extra 500 or 1000 if not worth it to them for LT and another pump in the am they'd rather leave and go back to the bar to find another customer, or go out with friends / Thai BF, etc.
Soi 6 is still cheap for taking a girl upstairs in the bar for ST.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035466]Paid money and kicked her out of my room. [b]She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her.[/b] Any way, it was just money.
My co-mongering friend had the exact same experience, as my experience.
In short: avoid African working women in Pattaya. If you want to bum bum African working women, travel to an African country. African working women in Pattaya are full of scams.[/QUOTE]In my opinion you scammed yourself. If you had refused to pay her and she made a big trouble, then it would have been her that was in big trouble. Those chicks are in the country illegally and even worse, they are prostituting illegally. So had the police come, she would have been thrown in jail and thrown out of the country. Knowledge is power. Since you did not realize that, she had the power. Had you said let's call the police to settle this then, she would have been out of there in a flash.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3035172]I never got a very good looking girl for 2 k in bkk, TF or elsewhere. On TF its 3 k for the pretty one.[/QUOTE]2,000 batters are Ugly. Price Matters and the Girls know it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3035489]In my opinion you scammed yourself. If you had refused to pay her and she made a big trouble, then it would have been her that was in big trouble. Those chicks are in the country illegally and even worse, they are prostituting illegally. So had the police come, she would have been thrown in jail and thrown out of the country. Knowledge is power. Since you did not realize that, she had the power. Had you said let's call the police to settle this then, she would have been out of there in a flash.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are right. But I don't want to take any risk. She could smash for example the television in the room, and it could cost me much more money in the end.
I am completely agree with you: Knowledge is power. But in some situations (especially against total crazy people), knowledge can not help at all.
With all respect to other opinions than my own opinion, I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.).
Besides as my co-mongering friend also experienced the very same thing shows only one thing: those African working women are agree to act in this way. So they can quickly get back to the Beach Road for finding some new victims.
The reason for my report is warning people here for not being the next victim. Because obviously there is a pattern among those African working women.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035466]Last night around 2 am, me and my co-mongering friend get contacted by 2 African working women.
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At the room, that African working woman (I took) was completely different compared to very funny and entertaining working girl at the Beach Road. She made everything to turn me off. She made a long phone call with someone, while I was waiting for the action. (I guess that was her friend at the room of my co-mongering friend). No kiss. No sucking dick at all. She refused to take a bath before the action. I put a condom and fucked her around 5 minutes. And as she was lying as a dead starfish in the bed, I pulled the condom off. Paid money and kicked her out of my room. She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her. Any way, it was just money.[/QUOTE]If a woman refuses to shower with me, I kick her out. That's happened a few times. If she demands money beforehand, I kick her out too. That's happened as well.
If she suddenly behaves differently in the room than before, I become suspicious. But if she doesn't want to shower, that's a nogo.
Perhaps you lack the experience to recognize these things.
[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035646]I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Yes. An empty wagon makes the most noise.
[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035646]Maybe you are right. But I don't want to take any risk. She could smash for example the television in the room, and it could cost me much more money in the end.
I am completely agree with you: Knowledge is power. But in some situations (especially against total crazy people), knowledge can not help at all.
With all respect to other opinions than my own opinion, I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.)..[/QUOTE]Knowledge is not wisdom or prudence!
My advice, when faced with an aggressive scammer, or even worse, two, on foreign soil, is to realize you have made a poor choice of sex worker, and seek to de-escalate the situation, before it gets out of hand, and involves others, Security and or Police.
For chump change pesos or bhat, you can make it all go away, and continue with your pleasurable hobby elsewhere.
Mongering is a hit or miss proposition at the best of times. Don't try to argue "principle" LOL, with low lifes, or worse try to teach them a lesson.
Life's too short!
(Unless of course you need to satisfy your own aggressive adrenaline rush tendencies!
Like the guy who gets hit on a flashing light crosswalk, you can finish up being "right", but dead!
I thought you handled your situation rather well.
Like food poisoning, wisdom and prudence is being able to avoid poor choices, not how to cure it!
[QUOTE=Oakie;3035687]Knowledge is not wisdom or prudence!
My advice, when faced with an aggressive scammer, or even worse, two, on foreign soil, is to realize you have made a poor choice of sex worker, and seek to de-escalate the situation, before it gets out of hand, and involves others, Security and or Police.........[/QUOTE]In 2017 in Hong Kong I went with this girl from either Laos or Myanmar in a walk up whose service was so poor that I prematurely ended the session. I knew I had to pay her but decided I did not want to make it too easy for her. I started arguing and she and her neighboring friends argued back. I decided to take up as much of their time as possible. I had nothing else planned for that day and they were unable to go with any possible punters during the arguments. Eventually they called their security, a small Chinese guy about half my size. I thought it a good idea to take up his time as well. I eventually paid of course but it cost them extra. Time is money.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3035731]In 2017 in Hong Kong I went with this girl from either Laos or Myanmar in a walk up whose service was so poor that I prematurely ended the session. I knew I had to pay her but decided I did not want to make it too easy for her. I started arguing and she and her neighboring friends argued back. I decided to take up as much of their time as possible. I had nothing else planned for that day and they were unable to go with any possible punters during the arguments. Eventually they called their security, a small Chinese guy about half my size. I thought it a good idea to take up his time as well. I eventually paid of course but it cost them extra. Time is money.[/QUOTE]Kudos for making them work for it. In some cities and venues that's fine, the likelihood of violence is extremely low.
However, there are places with pimps on a short fuse who come out swinging, and if you're not sure, trying to drag them along could backfire. For instance, lower end venues in Kuala Lumpur are not the kind of places where I'd try picking quarrels.
[QUOTE=SammySosa;3035480]Ahahah, for me who like young/slim/cute/all-nighters, a LOT has changed from 4 years ago.
[B]Walking Street[/B] is all Indian now, except for the late-night discos still popular with young westerners. The Gogos there are borderline ripoffs nowadays.
[B]Soi 6[/B] has become much more drink-centric and ST in bar, as Mamasans run the show. A lot more SE asians customers. A couple of bars still have old-style managers to smooth things out though.
The older westerners moved to [B]Bouakhao[/B] and the more edgy bars beyond (Bong Koch, Khao Talo etc.). Even Bouakhao is a lot more transactional than before. There are still some wild party bars, but mostly older / fatter woman. [b]Jomtien[/b] has more preserved its old-style beach town vibe.
[B]ThaiFriendly[/B] is 99% hardcore hookers now, the kind you find on beach road at night. As bad as the other online platforms..[/QUOTE]Most girls still go for 1000-2000 baht I don't know what you mean that prices have increased by 50 percent. Also I'm happy Thai friendly is 100% escorts that's what I want it for.
[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3035761] Also I'm happy Thai friendly is 100% escorts that's what I want it for.[/QUOTE]To make your statement accurate, you need some qualifiers of "young girls in Pattaya". Even then it isn't 100%. Don't expect the same thing when you travel about Thailand. Pattaya TF is uniquely overrun with P4P.
Normal parts of Thailand have mostly ladies looking for long term relationships and financial support.
Hi all,
As this is my first time mongering internationally, need some suggestion regarding Thailand scene especially in places like Bangkok and pattaya. I am looking for some unique experiences like nuru massages, milking table. As I will be traveling in 2 days need urgent suggestions. TIA.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3035873]Normal parts of Thailand have mostly ladies looking for long term relationships and financial support.[/QUOTE]Let me help you rephrase that: "looking for suckers".
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3035943]Let me help you rephrase that: "looking for suckers".[/QUOTE]If they're young, hot, healthy and clean I will certainly DATY them.
[QUOTE=YourGuy;3035937]Hi all,
As this is my first time mongering internationally, need some suggestion regarding Thailand scene especially in places like Bangkok and pattaya. I am looking for some unique experiences like nuru massages, milking table. As I will be traveling in 2 days need urgent suggestions. TIA.[/QUOTE]Don't look for nuru in Pattaya. There are soapy massages, but not nuru like what you'd expect in porn. That's in Bangkok.
I had got Nuru at Doki Doki (got stranded in front of it in an evening rain, so went in :) ) in BKK, pretty standard fare. Lot of options around for it, and all have the same procedure. Ping on WhatsApp, check the girls pics, walk in and choose only after seeing them in person and book is my suggestion.
Milking table have not done. Had to cancel booking due to travel plan changes, but had heard good things about Mai and Nong's where I had booked incall to hotel in Soi 7. Again, lot of providers I preferred this due to incall option.
Pattaya does not have the same level of service I feel for erotic massages. I would stick to BKK for these, but just regular massages (no extras) found Kumo in pattaya excellent. Pattaya is great for TF girls, Soi 6 and beer bars. All available in BKK but costlier.
[QUOTE=YourGuy;3035937]Hi all,
As this is my first time mongering internationally, need some suggestion regarding Thailand scene especially in places like Bangkok and pattaya. I am looking for some unique experiences like nuru massages, milking table. As I will be traveling in 2 days need urgent suggestions. TIA.[/QUOTE]
Had a great night out in Pattaya that took unexpected twists and turns. All in a good night's work.
For the Pattaya vets, this story will be commonplace. For those that have never been, buy your tickets before the girls get too westernized and forget they are in SEA. (:
It's a short story, but definitely skip if night summaries are not your thing. Just an example of how one of us mongers does it in Pattaya.
2nd day in Pattaya. Woke up around 7/8 PM, got dressed, took an edible and headed toward Soi Buahkaw. The goal was to end up at iBar and return with a Freelancer. This would be my first night attempting to pull a freelancer, instead of my regular goto places, bargirls and gogos. Candyclub was literally down the street from my hotel and though I have walked past it hundreds of times, I never actually stopped in. Recently, I had heard that freelancers were popular there, so I figured maybe I would find a freelancer, grab some food and then head back to the hotel. Maybe my trip would be much shorter than expected if I pulled something in Candyland. Stopped by, walked in, and was escorted to an occupied table with two older women. After I apologized for invading their space, the woman to my right immediately started chatting me up, loudly over the sound of live music. I'm not the biggest fan of live music, however I probably would have been persuaded to stay if the company was worth my time. I finished my beer and rolled out.
30 minutes into my mission, I figured I should eat before the edible kicks in fully and I literally forget about food until it's 4 AM and I'm starving. I walked up the street and got some beef soup across from Witherspoons. That's an easy 50 baht that hits the spot, and it looks like Thais and farangs are fond of the place.
There is a set of covered bars right around the corner from treetown (not sure what it's called). I always have fun when I stroll up and down the aisles, playing pool at random places, etc. After a few beers and resisting the urge to take one or two of the friendly bar girls with me, I started toward Walking street to check out iBar and execute my mission. I was determined to experiment with pulling a freelancer and trying something different than my typical bar girl. This is when I met Bam. Ignoring the "Handsome man" and "I want some chocolate" cat calls had become par for the stroll, however, there are the aggressive ones that come to the middle of the street blocking your path, or hugging you, or grabbing your hand, etc. Bam did just this and didn't start the conversation with "whass you name" or "Where you from". Instead, she went right to "hey, you fuck me!" . Hahaha. We both started laughing. This kind of talk is usually a bit of a turn off for me, but it was different from the rest that night and the edible kinda made everything funny. Ok. She is funny. Time for a quick detour. Played a few games of pool and then rolled out, as it was getting late and she said she couldn't bar fine. Yes, she changed my mind and I almost fully relapsed into bargirl world instead of investigating the club freelancer scene. She gave me her number before I left (didn't ask for it) and said she would text me the next day. Didn't intend to hold my breath for this one. I'm in Pattaya, there is no way I'm prefilling open time slots. She pulled me close as I was walking down the steps and sucked my top lip. It wasn't a kiss, it was literally a top lip suck. I found that interesting as well. Rolled out never expecting to see her again, though I might say that she had a body that is quite uncommon for Thai girls. She was thin, with a really nice ass, and had a decent frame, meaning that she didn't have the typical SEA small woman frame that sometimes really turns me off.
My focus was back on the mission. Walked to beach road and hopped on a baht bus (10 baht) down to walking street. Arrived at WS and was hit with all the energy that either draws in the newcomers or keeps the vets away. I'm neither, but definitely closer to newcomer than vet. Approached iBar and those bastards always take my tactical pen. Other clubs usually ignore it or overlook it, but ibar and insomnia staff always take it and I have to retrieve it on the way out. I always notice that the security guard gives me a face when I come to retrieve it, almost like he was hoping that whoever's pen it was would be too drunk / preoccupied to remember it. Nope, that's a force multiplier when you are in a place that doesn't allow the typical force multiplier.
Strolled into iBar and the scene was what you would expect. People playing pool, not much dancing, random girls walking around and staff looking to serve overpriced drinks. Ordered a beer and posted up at one of the tables by the water. It was kinda boring, if I'm being honest. It was about 1/130 AM. After about a half hour, more people started to come in. I started seeing more women occupy the space and thought to myself, "Ha. The freelancers are making their way in". Didn't see much that really grabbed my attention. Oh well. I'll finish my beer and head to treetown to see if I can grab something before the end of the night. A guy came in with two Thai girls and took the table next to me. Both girls were attractive. Lucky bastard. He set up a 3 way and probably decided to hit the club first. Rock on brother. No hate, just respecting the game. He was seated on a stool, just like me and one of the girls stayed between his legs. I figured, she was probably the primary. The other girl bumped into me while she was dancing and made me spill some of my beer. She was very apologetic and wiped the beer off of me like being sure to get her gropes on my abs and thighs. Very slick, but I liked it. She grabbed my ribs at one point and signaled that she liked the feel. We laughed and I thought nothing of it. She was back to dancing and I was counting down until my beer was done. Then, the chatting started. She kept making small talk and small talk became more sustained talk that turned into light dancing. She said they were going to Myst and asked if I wanted to come. Sure. Let's do it.
Wait a minute. I'm feeling kind of like a 4th wheel (is that a thing?) because I'm having to presume the state of things when what I really need to do is talk to the dude. He seemed stand offish and I figured it was because I was crashing his party. The plan was to check out myst and then roll out and leave the other monger to his threesome. Not going to crash another guy's party. WHen we get to Myst, I pulled him to the side and we had a really quick intro. Just names really. Not much said. The girls got us a table in the back and we decided to order a bottle. Over the loud music, we signaled to each other to split the bill in half. As fair as it gets. The girls disappeared for a minute and finally I had the opportunity to chat with the guy and figure out how to play the situation. Would I post up or try to find my own girl in Myst, which was absolutely packed! Found out he was Italian and when I offered apologies for crashing his party, he responded that my timing and placement could not have been more perfect. He met his girl on Thai Friendly and she brought her sister with her without his knowledge. He was thanking the heavens when her sister found her own customer, as now he had gotten rid of his third wheel. We toasted while they were gone and the night continued and continued. I stood against the wall and she danced against me all night. The club was packed, loud, and more people were coming in. With the bottle almost gone and 1500 Baht for LT agreed, we decided to hit the road. It was now after 6 AM and what a surprise you get when you leave the club. Inside, it's still nighttime and the party is ongoing. Outside, the sun is shining bright, a new day has started and you do what is similar to a walk of shame down walking street being harassed every 5 feet by taxis.
I learned from this night to leave while it still dark. There is a 180 degree difference from the nightlife vibe and the early morning vibe. My vibe stays alive and well when I'm leaving WS while the party is still alive and the cloak of night still blankets the sky.
Took her home, banged it out and sent her on her way. Mission Accomplished! Yeah, I know it was LT, but I didn't want to share my bed and deal with her in the morning. Way easier to send her on her way after busting one. Left out plenty of details for brevity.
Wondering if anyone can say which is the best hotel or resort for great meals?
The $100 usd -$300 usd per night, range would be ideal.
And many thanks to any perverts that can help.
Sounds like a blast thanks for sharing and this girl Bam did she have a flower on her chest with writing on the other side with dark hair and braces? If so I have met her before keep me posted brotha.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3036274]Wondering if anyone can say which is the best hotel or resort for great meals?
The $100 usd -$300 usd per night, range would be ideal.
And many thanks to any perverts that can help.[/QUOTE]There are tons of reasonably priced hotels for much less <$100/ night and good food. Try Nag's Head on 2nd Road near Garden Plaza. My favorite food places are Hungry Hippo and Cheap Charlie's on Soi Buakhow, and Das Berliner on Soi 13 for great German Food and Hideaway on the corner of Soi Boomerang and Soi 15 (about the best hamburgers in Thailand.
On the pervert side, the prettiest woman I've met in eight years works as a freelancer at Gold Moon Bar in Tree Town (off Soi Buakhow). She's fun and funny and is very fond of what you are very fond of. She goes to work about 9 most nights. Ask for Ae. Pronounces "A." You will not be sorry.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3036274]Wondering if anyone can say which is the best hotel or resort for great meals?
The $100 usd -$300 usd per night, range would be ideal.[/QUOTE]$100-$300? I do not even think that exists around here. You may want to move in with the king trying to spend that much in these parts. But if you insist on overpriced food and rooms, then the Hilton is the place for you. Juice that you can get outside for $1, will cost you $10 there.
[QUOTE=LshRoomer;3036252]Had a great night out in Pattaya that took unexpected twists and turns. All in a good night's work.
For the Pattaya vets, this story will be commonplace. For those that have never been, buy your tickets before the girls get too westernized and forget they are in SEA. (:
It's a short story, but definitely skip if night summaries are not your thing. Just an example of how one of us mongers does it in Pattaya.
2nd day in Pattaya. Woke up around 7/8 PM, got dressed, took an edible and headed toward Soi Buahkaw. The goal was to end up at iBar and return with a Freelancer. This would be my first night attempting to pull a freelancer, instead of my regular goto places, bargirls and gogos. Candyclub was literally down the street from my hotel and though I have walked past it hundreds of times, I never actually stopped in. Recently, I had heard that freelancers were popular there, so I figured maybe I would find a freelancer, grab some food and then head back to the hotel. Maybe my trip would be much shorter than expected if I pulled something in Candyland. Stopped by, walked in, and was escorted to an occupied table with two older women. After I apologized for invading their space, the woman to my right immediately started chatting me up, loudly over the sound of live music. I'm not the biggest fan of live music, however I probably would have been persuaded to stay if the company was worth my time. I finished my beer and rolled out..[/QUOTE]Good report. You certainly have to be focused to keep to your original mission, especially in Pattaya.
I've often had a FL, certain go go / Gents club, TF meet up mission and within 30 minutes of getting out / few beers it's all changed, they're often the best nights / days. Just go with the flow but on occasion you do end up in some bizarre / dodgy situations.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3036274]Wondering if anyone can say which is the best hotel or resort for great meals?
The $100 usd -$300 usd per night, range would be ideal.
And many thanks to any perverts that can help.[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here about "Pattaya Hotels". Then you could read it, and not provoke a worthless discussion in this topic, which is about getting laid in Pattaya.
I have seen a few walking videos around Myst, but not usually on Walking Street or Soi 6. What are the prices of non-bar girls? The range?
For example, the black girl?
The hooker in leather boots?
The pairs of girls in the other two?
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036439]I have seen a few walking videos around Myst, but not usually on Walking Street or Soi 6. What are the prices of non-bar girls? The range?
For example, the black girl?
The hooker in leather boots?
The pairs of girls in the other two?[/QUOTE]Nobody can answer your questions unless (million to one chance) = they know these 3 out of many thousands if not millions of girls!
Freelancers in Pattaya (and Bangkok / Pratumnak / Jomtien / Phuket / Koh Samui and most likely most places) charge (a) what they believe they can get out of a punter and (b) what they want. Factors which influence prices (and this is by no means an exhaustive list) are 1. Does the guy look like he has money or not 2. Does he look clean 3. Is he on drugs or pissed 4. Does he look desperate 5. What time of night (or day) is it? 6. What is this location? 7. What are my chances of hooking another / better option in the next 30 minutes / hour? 8. What is my week looking like (busy / rich dead / poor).
There are no "averages". On beach road in September I walked up to a very pretty girl at the end of the night (I NEVER choose street freelancers late anywhere as the odds of being robbed are sadly high). I had already had my fun for the night but wondered if LT was cheap enough as the girl was unusually pretty with a great body and I thought starting the morning with her might be great fun. I was far from drunk. I had had only 2 beers and one vodka coke all night (since 7 pm). She quoted 2000 THB LT. I frowned and she immediately dropped to 1500. Two guys (differently culture / nationalities from me) were stood close listening and one of them, clearly unhappy, and one blurted out "hey you told me and my friend 3000 each". She responded "yes because you both smell very bad". I decided against and went to bed.
But there you have it. So so many factors determine freelancer prices.
So to finalise this. After a heavy night in Buakhao recently I was offered ST for only 700 THB outside Subway but an unattractive girl. I declined. Next night I made a rare visit to WS and Pin Up. Outside there was one of there was an incredible dek rub kaek (promoter). Genuinely 10/10 face and body. I asked her outright "price for ST or LT please and let's go for some champagne and food first". Sure I wanted her to know I wasn't a cheap charlie and trust me I wanted her to accept. Best looking girl I've seen in now nearly 9 years in Pattaya / Bangkok. She initially told me she did not go with customers - "paid to bring men into my bar". I said I would wait an hour or so if necessary and pay well.
She went inside, came back and said 4000 THB bar fine and 12000 for me please. Again, I politely declined (albeit after trying hard but failing to get her to negotiate down). I have since wondered if she might just be worth one time paying European prices (total 16 k THB is about 400 euros - for two hours is about standard now in Germany and Spain for girls in clubs). So in the space of 2 nights I went from 700 THB to 16000. You might understand then when I say that answering your questions about these pics is just impossible. Too many factors in play. Go have fun and don't worry too much. Prices in SEA are incredible compared to rest of the World.
Hey guys I want to keep this friendly and straight to the point last time I was in pattaya I kept you boys updated was honestly a amazing trip and this site has been a live saver I always do my research so I don't fuck up the game as we say in Dominicans forums or in Sosua when we meet people ahaha ( yep social media killed it no ones goes there anymore we had dudes coming spending 150$ bucks on pussy that was 60-80$ all week but they knew weekend warriors coming for 2 day trip on the weekend prices hiked and now its like that for 6s and 7s kinda like the Koreans been doing?) I went to pattaya year and half ago I'm sure Mr. International and banana boi remember my updates ahahaha good times! Let's get into this I have read forums for last few days and watched countless YouTube videos tryna figure out the market but I want to know from you guys what is the best place you pick up girls other than on the beach/massage parlour and Thai friendly! Im talking about bars lol ( yes need to pay Barrie but not something thats 100$ cad ) Is treetown good or different Soi streets or second street in 2025? Cause if the girls wants 2 k and the bar wants 2-2500 bhatt that's 4000-4500 bhatt and I'm from Canada that = 186-209$ CAD for a girl on soi 6 which is crazy and yes I know you can take the girl upstairs! For 400-500 bhatt but my question is is she going to rush you to get back downstairs to get more LD? Thinking back on it maybe last time I came during the right time low season rainy and girls were cheaper now in November I have been hearing girls are packed in bars. Plus the girls are going to try to hold out for Koreans ( which we all know ) they don't mind paying crazy prices call me crazy or cheap Charlie but if 186-210 $ (4 k-4500) cad is a price for a woman that's crazy. I love pattaya and want to confirm if that's the going price where other than soi 6 where do u OGs go to bar fine (I'm happy with bar fines but not when it's 90 $ in cad up to 120 $!) currency rate here is 100 $ Canadian = 2149 bhatt at the moment at exchanges google shows more but the currency exchanges or banks need their cut too. I know you can take them upstairs etc for cheaper but I'the rather not I like it in the comfort of my own place. I know you'll say than you have to pay for that extra but not 100 $ extra LOL. I know the day starts off pricey with bar fines and later the night goes 12-2 am cheaper it gets cause she's done her part for the bar and made it money. Also OGS I want you're advice but you got to remember how many years you been here and how many contacts and girls you know so getting the same price is abit harder for someone newer in the scene with all do respect. I'm here to learn and not mess up the prices (big deal in Dominican expats etc I know we are in Thailand forums) so what part of the city can I do to bar fine for around 1000 ish bhatt? For a bar girl? Also in Soi6 a lot of the girls just want lady drinks and don't want to be bar fined is what I'm reading on reddit true or false? Or they waiting for a Korean or farang that they can up charge the most? I remember a night in Soi6 the dude kept hitting a bell almost every girl was at his table in the bar he was showing off buying rounds on rounds for atleast 8-10 girls that's what's factor of what we call a weekend warrior someone who's their for few days and will blow all his money to impress girls than boom know they think everyone's like this and prices go up! I want to be educated on the market all info is going to be helpful and I'll be sure to share updates with you guys thanks again. P.S. I have no probably buying LD drinks just ain't spending 100 $ cad on a bar fine than another 80-100 $ on top for a girl that's wild for ST what's the best street where you going and ain't blowing 200 $ on a bar fine and girl and that's not even including drinks. If that’s the right prices ahaha I need new suggestions in town where to for bars cause that’s absurd!
Give me suggestions and prices down below what’s you been paying in bars!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036508]I have read forums for last few days and watched countless YouTube videos tryna figure out the market but I want to know from you guys what is the best place you pick up girls other than on the beach/massage parlour and Thai friendly! [/QUOTE]I am afraid that you have wasted a lot of time on youtube as well as with this post. Pattaya has not changed. You still pay what you negotiate. You can not negotiate the bar fine, but you can negotiate with the chick you take out. So find a chick wherever you like and negotiate for a price you think is fair.
Please use paragraphs at ThatGuy101.
The best value girls are going to be on Thaifriendly or club freelancers as there as no barfines or lady drinks.
The reason the Soi 6 take out barfines are so expensive is because they don't want the girls to be barfines. Looking for long times in Soi 6 is like looking for a steak in a seafood restaurant.
I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".
All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3036447]Nobody can answer your questions unless (million to one chance) = they know these 3 out of many thousands if not millions of girls!
Freelancers in Pattaya (and Bangkok / Pratumnak / Jomtien / Phuket / Koh Samui and most likely most places) charge (a) what they believe they can get out of a punter and (b) what they want. Factors which influence prices (and this is by no means an exhaustive list) are 1. Does the guy look like he has money or not 2. Does he look clean 3. Is he on drugs or pissed 4. Does he look desperate 5. What time of night (or day) is it? 6. What is this location? 7. What are my chances of hooking another / better option in the next 30 minutes / hour? 8. What is my week looking like (busy / rich dead / poor).
There are no "averages". On beach road in September I walked up to a very pretty girl at the end of the night (I NEVER choose street freelancers late anywhere as the odds of being robbed are sadly high). I had already had my fun for the night but wondered if LT was cheap enough as the girl was unusually pretty with a great body and I thought starting the morning with her might be great fun. I was far from drunk. I had had only 2 beers and one vodka coke all night (since 7 pm). She quoted 2000 THB LT. I frowned and she immediately dropped to 1500. Two guys (differently culture / nationalities from me) were stood close listening and one of them, clearly unhappy, and one blurted out "hey you told me and my friend 3000 each". She responded "yes because you both smell very bad". I decided against and went to bed.
But there you have it. So so many factors determine freelancer prices.
So to finalise this. After a heavy night in Buakhao recently I was offered ST for only 700 THB outside Subway but an unattractive girl. I declined. Next night I made a rare visit to WS and Pin Up. Outside there was one of there was an incredible dek rub kaek (promoter). Genuinely 10/10 face and body. I asked her outright "price for ST or LT please and let's go for some champagne and food first". Sure I wanted her to know I wasn't a cheap charlie and trust me I wanted her to accept. Best looking girl I've seen in now nearly 9 years in Pattaya / Bangkok. She initially told me she did not go with customers - "paid to bring men into my bar". I said I would wait an hour or so if necessary and pay well.
She went inside, came back and said 4000 THB bar fine and 12000 for me please. Again, I politely declined (albeit after trying hard but failing to get her to negotiate down). I have since wondered if she might just be worth one time paying European prices (total 16 k THB is about 400 euros - for two hours is about standard now in Germany and Spain for girls in clubs). So in the space of 2 nights I went from 700 THB to 16000. You might understand then when I say that answering your questions about these pics is just impossible. Too many factors in play. Go have fun and don't worry too much. Prices in SEA are incredible compared to rest of the World.[/QUOTE]
There's a old saying "Your Mileage May Vary" when I was in Phuket no more than 2000 BHT and at the lowest 1500 Bath. I ran into a chick from Cote d'voire on Sanbagla Road. I can only imagine it might be slightly higher in Pattaya because more tourists are going there vs Phuket. The Thai women I met near the Muslim areas of Phuket wanted 2000 BHT and they wasn't trying to negotiate for a lower price.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036439]I have seen a few walking videos around Myst, but not usually on Walking Street or Soi 6. What are the prices of non-bar girls? The range?
For example, the black girl?
The hooker in leather boots?
The pairs of girls in the other two?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036610]I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".
All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".[/QUOTE]100% than don't complain prices of Barnes or girls is going up when you can't give a quote of what recent price people paid here! We are all mongers it's not hard to say I pay this in soi 6 vs here vs here etc. I'm just tryna execute my self so expats are respected I ain't " weekend warrior " or a " cheap Charlie " but with no help means figure it out you're self when we're all here on the forum sharing stories and helping other mongers no reason to gate keep prices. Okay if soi6 is over priced and so is walking streets etc than tell me the spot! Also remember I was a newbie in this forum almost 8 years ago I followed the advice for Dominican and it worked so it's not hard to put some one on game vs go find out you're self than get mad prices going up in the future idk that's my thought process sorry if I offended anyone but just a quick I pay xxx in second street for a bar fine vs soi6 would help.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3036527]I am afraid that you have wasted a lot of time on youtube as well as with this post. Pattaya has not changed. You still pay what you negotiate. You can not negotiate the bar fine, but you can negotiate with the chick you take out. So find a chick wherever you like and negotiate for a price you think is fair.[/QUOTE]Mr. Mr. Enternational with all due respect. When I left Dominican and the forums you're post were one of the first one I read here I have respect for you're posts but this a basic reply. I know short time and long time can be negotiated but what are the prices of bar fine to be expected on soi6 vs other places in pattaya but me and some other people on game it was my first time there a year ago which was amazing I had a blast I can figure it out on with the girl but I ain't tryna pay the bar more or the same as the girl. No problems with lady drinks or me buying drinks I know I'm paying for company for her to sit with me but I ain't tryna pay a bar 80-100 $ car for a bar fine than the girl almost the same in Canadian. I know you're vet. You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go.. even when I in Phuket I posted to this thread to share my experience cause this thread always been full of great advice no one ever gate keeping with info also gives people coming with a budget what they should spend without fucking it up for people living there. Yes YouTube a waste of time so is Reddit thats why this forum is worth it we have people helping the younger ones or people not as experienced there! So saying YouTube is a waste of time with you or no one giving reply with info is abit of waste to ? Without being put on game! I know you have the info I countless hours in my life time reading this forums but I was hoping you’d give an update on bar fines and what’s the best place! That’s all ahaha ! All respect and love happy mongering. If youre there late November or early December I will personally buy you few beers on me for youre advice and information thats all we want here with some great stories of the trip thats the roots of this
[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036644]You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go..[/QUOTE]I started off the last post by saying nothing has changed. You have been before so you know what to expect. There are no secret spots that people are harboring for themselves. You see somewhere you may like and you walk in and ask prices right off. If you do not like it or can not negotiate to where you want then you walk out and go to another spot. There is no need to wait in a place 2 hours before finding out prices. There are literally thousands of spots. And there is something for everybody, so nobody can tell you what will be for you, just because it is what they like. You may want bar, massage parlor, street chick, internet, soapy, gogo, disco, or just encounter someone when you are in 711 to buy water. There are endless options. But once again, if you have been before than you know the ropes and probably already have a routine and places you like to go. Nothing has changed and as always YMMV.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036644]Mr. Mr. Enternational with all due respect. When I left Dominican and the forums you're post were one of the first one I read here I have respect for you're posts but this a basic reply. I know short time and long time can be negotiated but what are the prices of bar fine to be expected on soi6 vs other places in pattaya but me and some other people on game it was my first time there a year ago which was amazing I had a blast I can figure it out on with the girl but I ain't tryna pay the bar more or the same as the girl. No problems with lady drinks or me buying drinks I know I'm paying for company for her to sit with me but I ain't tryna pay a bar 80-100 $ car for a bar fine than the girl almost the same in Canadian. I know you're vet. You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go.. even when I in Phuket I posted to this thread to share my experience cause this thread always been full of great advice no one ever gate keeping with info also gives people coming with a budget what they should spend without fucking it up for people living there. Yes YouTube a waste of time so is Reddit thats why this forum is worth it we have people helping the younger ones or people not as experienced there! So saying YouTube is a waste of time with you or no one giving reply with info is abit of waste to ? Without being put on game! I know you have the info I countless hours in my life time reading this forums but I was hoping youd give an update on bar fines and whats the best place![/QUOTE]I've found there is not a fixed price except in massage parlours or establishments where it's the same price for all depending on the service you want, with a stated price list and even then, in some cases that's not 100% set in stone.
In my experience, it depends on so many different factors. Your age, time of day / night, how you look / smell / dress / carry yourself, location, your attitude, your race, high / low season.. Even the weather.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036610]I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".
All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".[/QUOTE]Sorry if my response wasn't perfect for you and you've have preferred zero response. Maybe you are right. Me telling giving "consultant" advice was almost as stupid as posting three pictures of the 2 million girls for sale in Thailand and asking how much they cost.
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3036613]There's a old saying "Your Mileage May Vary" when I was in Phuket no more than 2000 BHT and at the lowest 1500 Bath. I ran into a chick from Cote d'voire on Sanbagla Road. I can only imagine it might be slightly higher in Pattaya because more tourists are going there vs Phuket.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, everything costs more in Phuket than Pattaya. I always tell people Phuket is the tourist ripoff place. No idea where more people go, but all you see in Phuket airport is tourists. Remember there are direct flights from many countries into Phuket. I think most flights there are from other countries versus from within Thailand. Everybody has to see Koh Phi Phi. The folks that go to Pattaya are mongers and Asians that have been sold a cheap tour package.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3036389]$100-$300? I do not even think that exists around here. You may want to move in with the king trying to spend that much in these parts. But if you insist on overpriced food and rooms, then the Hilton is the place for you. Juice that you can get outside for $1, will cost you $10 there.[/QUOTE]But I should of explained my question better, I don't pay that price for a room, but I want to show 2 of my friends Pattaya and they are a bit chubby and like to eat good food, not Mcds.
And they said they don't want to go unless I can promise them they won't be eating American fast food every meal or 711, they like nice restaurants, and have plenty of money to burn on nice hotels too.
I've been there a couple times but I don't know the higher end hotels (which I'm guessing should have good food? I don't travel to eat good food, but its way more important to some than it is to me.
So this was a question about good food, which is why I didn't bother with the hotel section.
The idea that the only way to know what prices are is to go into the venue and ask is bogus. Those of us who have visited a venue recently can give you exact prices or ranges. The only reason some says you cannot know is because they don't know.
[U][b]For example[/b][/U]
[U]Naughty massage places[/U]: 200 Foot Massage; 200 Thai Massage; 300 oil massage. These numbers can vary plus or minus 50 THB.
If you want a naughty massage then you ask for oil massage. At some point in the massage the girl giving you a massage will flip you over and may tease you or straight out ask what you want. Ask for the sexual service you want and get the price from here. But there are average service ranges:
Hand Job 500 - 700; Blow Job 500 - 700; Boom Boom: 1000 - 2000.
If she does not give you a number in the range or the price you want then negotiate. Do not be afraid to say no. She does not make any [I]REAL[/I] money if she does not provide any extras.
The forum is about [B]sharing information on having sex with girls[/B], not talking big mess in order to boost their ego and post count. I do my best provide my readers with venue details, including drink prices and the prices of the social sexual services.
Last time I was on [B]Beach Road[/B] I got quotes between 1000 - 2000 THB for [I]Blow Job[/I] and [I]Boom Boom[/I] one shot.
As for secret places no there are not any that I am aware of. But there are places that are not no the normal tourist track nor that Western tourists go to on a regular basis.
Remember, if someone does not do what you like to do they cannot give you advice on that type of venue. I rarely goto [U]Walking Street[/U] Agogos. When I do go there are many attractive girls, but the prices that they quote me for their social sexual services I routinely decline. I have nothing negative to say about the places. [I]If you like them then I love them[/I]
[B]Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3036805]The idea that the only way to know what prices are is to go into the venue and ask is bogus. Those of us who have visited a venue recently can give you exact prices or ranges. The only reason some says you cannot know is because they don't know.
[/QUOTE]Thanks, Commander, for bringing the topic back to task. With a range in price, I get a better idea in my head of what is reasonable and what may be perceived as the girl clocking me as an easy mark. My aim is to stay inline with market prices. Not to be a cheap charlie to brag about how I banged the same girl you banged but for half price, nor to be a scammed weekend warrior to start inflating price expectations.
My frustration with this site has turned to generally abandoning it due to so many non-answer answers that overwhelm the count of the site.
The sites order of usefulness.
Trip reviews with numbers = That's what this site is here for.
Direct answers = Great.
Speculative answers with caveats = Good, helpful point of reference.
Non answer replies that pad the stats and clog the search filter = Waste of electricity, time (writer and readers), and server space. This is why RTFF has yielded such a high amount of little value, and if it is there it is from years ago.
Again, thanks.
[QUOTE]So this was a question about good food, which is why I didn't bother with the hotel section.[/QUOTE][B]Grand Centre Point Pattaya[/B], there is a fine dining buffet in the hotel that was one of the best I have ever eaten at in my life. Plus the range of restaurants in [U]Terminal 21[/U] next door will keep them eating a different cuisine ever meal for their entire trip.
[B]Grande Center Point Space Pattaya[/B] has a roof top hotel with views are are amazing. Get there before sunset and be amazed.
[B]The Chocolate Factory[/B]
Search Michelin Star Restaurant in Google Maps.
Now if you want to go to the next level when it comes to restaurants [B]Cockbang[/B] (aka Bangkok) is the spot!
[QUOTE]The best value girls are going to be on [u]Thai Friendly[/u] or club freelancers as there as no barfines or lady drinks. The reason the Soi 6 take out barfines are so expensive is because they don't want the girls to be barfines. Looking for long times in Soi 6 is like looking for a steak in a seafood restaurant.[/QUOTE][B]Thai Friendly:[/B] you are taking a risk on what the girl who show up at your door looks like. Unless you meet her for an interview so that you are not dealing with a problem at your door or in your room. I know that there are claims that 1300* Long Time is available. That has not been my experience. Usually older (and that is relative to your own age a personal preferences) girls will accept 2000 for Long Time. But younger more attractive girls are going to ask for 3000 Long Time. With the girls that are smoking hot asking for 4000 Long Time.
[B]Soi 6[/B]: Bar Fines between 500 - 1000; with [I]Long Time 4000[/I]. If Long Time is two shots that the same value to me as [I]Short Time for 2000[/I]. So, you are getting the stranger to sleep with you (something I am not comfortable with) for free. Along with her time. If you are bar fining for long time before midnight then there won't be any other expenses if all you do is head to the room and bust that first nut out, sleep and bust another nut in the morning before she leaves.
[B]My favorite is short time![/B] Last time I was there (on Soi 6 - 7 days ago) room costs were 300 - 500 and amounts quoted to me were 1300 - 3000. That being said my personal preferences are Gentlemans Clubs, Naughty Massage Places and [U]Thai Friendly[/U]. But even as [U]Thai Friendly[/U] can represent an excellent value overall, for me nothing beats being out on the street or up in the the bar / club and getting that direct 1 on 1 personal interaction with the potential prostitute you plan to hire.
[I]*All figures THB[/I]
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3036274]Wondering if anyone can say which is the best hotel or resort for great meals?[/QUOTE]As others have noted, if you insist on dining at a hotel the Hilton does a good job. But no matter how hard they try, it's still hotel food.
If you're looking for fine dining in Pattaya, you'll find it in restaurants, not hotels. I don't know what you consider to be "great," so I'll just throw out one suggestion, Casa Pascal:
[URL]https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/set-menu[/URL]
[URL]https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/a-la-carte-home-page[/URL]#aLaCarteMenuDiv.
This is a very European place, with quality ingredients that are well prepared and a good wine list. During the holidays they have special lunches and dinners. The rest of the year they build meals around featured ingredients.
Bon appetit!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3036857][B]Thai Friendly:[/B] you are taking a risk on what the girl who show up at your door looks like. Unless you meet her for an interview so that you are not dealing with a problem at your door or in your room. I know that there are claims that 1300* Long Time is available. That has not been my experience. Usually older (and that is relative to your own age a personal preferences) girls will accept 2000 for Long Time. But younger more attractive girls are going to ask for 3000 Long Time. With the girls that are smoking hot asking for 4000 Long Time.
[B]Soi 6[/B]: Bar Fines between 500 - 1000; with [I]Long Time 4000[/I]. If Long Time is two shots that the same value to me as [I]Short Time for 2000[/I]. So, you are getting the stranger to sleep with you (something I am not comfortable with) for free. Along with her time. If you are bar fining for long time before midnight then there won't be any other expenses if all you do is head to the room and bust that first nut out, sleep and bust another nut in the morning before she leaves.
[B]My favorite is short time![/B] Last time I was there (on Soi 6 - 7 days ago) room costs were 300 - 500 and amounts quoted to me were 1300 - 3000. That being said my personal preferences are Gentlemans Clubs, Naughty Massage Places and [U]Thai Friendly[/U]. But even as [U]Thai Friendly[/U] can represent an excellent value overall, for me nothing beats being out on the street or up in the the bar / club and getting that direct 1 on 1 personal interaction with the potential prostitute you plan to hire.
[I]*All figures THB[/I][/QUOTE]Ae is a very pretty and funny woman who will give you a great time for 2000 Baht short Time. Nice body, 43 years old and loves to make you happy. Small pussy, perfectly formed and if you're good at oral, it will be a big plus. Known her for more than two years and never let me down. A happy lady. Gold Moon Bar is on the south side of Tree Town near the end (entering from Soi Buakhow). She's a freelancer and usually gets to work about 9 PM. Worth it.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3035611]2,000 batters are Ugly. Price Matters and the Girls know it.[/QUOTE]Had a pin up go-go for 1500 b in the morning. Also, lots of other girls for 1500 b ST /2500 b LT. Among them, another go-go who worked at Windmill and Fahrenheit.
[QUOTE=LshRoomer;3036252]Had a great night out in Pattaya that took unexpected twists and turns. All in a good night's work.
For the Pattaya vets, this story will be commonplace. For those that have never been, buy your tickets before the girls get too westernized and forget they are in SEA. (:
It's a short story, but definitely skip if night summaries are not your thing. Just an example of how one of us mongers does it in Pattaya.
2nd day in Pattaya. Woke up around 7/8 PM, got dressed, took an edible and headed toward Soi Buahkaw. The goal was to end up at iBar and return with a Freelancer. This would be my first night attempting to pull a freelancer, instead of my regular goto places, bargirls and gogos. Candyclub was literally down the street from my hotel and though I have walked past it hundreds of times, I never actually stopped in. Recently, I had heard that freelancers were popular there, so I figured maybe I would find a freelancer, grab some food and then head back to the hotel. Maybe my trip would be much shorter than expected if I pulled something in Candyland. Stopped by, walked in, and was escorted to an occupied table with two older women. After I apologized for invading their space, the woman to my right immediately started chatting me up, loudly over the sound of live music. I'm not the biggest fan of live music, however I probably would have been persuaded to stay if the company was worth my time. I finished my beer and rolled out.
30 minutes into my mission, I figured I should eat before the edible kicks in fully and I literally forget about food until it's 4 AM and I'm starving. I walked up the street and got some beef soup across from Witherspoons. That's an easy 50 baht that hits the spot, and it looks like Thais and farangs are fond of the place..[/QUOTE]Your story is a little like mine. I was messaged by one girl and told she would come to my room at 8:00 pm. She appeared at 7:30 and banged her before heading out (BBCIP). Went to Soi 8 and got in a bar to see the band playing there. Then she told me her sister was coming and she wanted a 3 some with her and me. Her sister appeared, but had some kind of problem and left (so much for the 3 some). So we went to Ibar (must have seen you there), where we went to the back and were placed at a table with 3 girls. A few moments later two of them disappeared and we were left with one of the girls. My girl noticed I liked the girl and, after asking her wether she was ok with a 3 some with a girl other than her sister, she went and talked to the girl. I invited to a beer and we all left to my room. We had the 3 some (DATY while having sex with the other, DFK, and the best blowjob I have ever had by the new girl) and the other girl left. So, I had another session with my girl (BBCIP), before going to sleep. In the morning we had another session (DATY and BBCIP).
I was on Soi 6 last week and visited a total of 7 clubs in the 6:00- 10:00 time frame.
I am not commenting on the viability of the prices I was quoted or why, or to lament about how it used to be, this just what I was quoted and paid for drinks.
For a local beer for me and a lady drink the cost was in the order of $300 baht, give or take.
6 bars quoted $2500 B bar fine, ladies cost $5000 B ST and $7000 B LT (two of those bars required a 10 lady drink minimum as well.).
ST in on site relaxation room onsite was quoted about $400 B room fee and $2500-$4000 B lady fee.
One bar the particular lady was Very interested to go Off campus, and quoted me $2500 for her fee, I declined after I saw her smoking when I came from the bathroom.
I will say, I really had a good time in Hollywood and Fire. The girls I sat at Wicked and Sexy in the City had girls that would have been a really good time to party with I feel sure.
[QUOTE=SkyRyder;3037101]I was on Soi 6 last week and visited a total of 7 clubs in the 6:00- 10:00 time frame.
I am not commenting on the viability of the prices I was quoted or why, or to lament about how it used to be, this just what I was quoted and paid for drinks.
For a local beer for me and a lady drink the cost was in the order of $300 baht, give or take.
6 bars quoted $2500 B bar fine, ladies cost $5000 B ST and $7000 B LT (two of those bars required a 10 lady drink minimum as well.).
ST in on site relaxation room onsite was quoted about $400 B room fee and $2500-$4000 B lady fee.
One bar the particular lady was Very interested to go Off campus, and quoted me $2500 for her fee, I declined after I saw her smoking when I came from the bathroom..[/QUOTE]I had ST with two Spinners (Fire and LaLaLand) and they asked for 2000 be. Another spinner (don't remember which bar) also asked for 2000 be. She left me because I said we would go upstairs after finishing our drinks. All, after 1 LD (except Fire, which was after FUF party).
Sorry I was referring to paying for sex costs more money in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3036710]On the contrary, everything costs more in Phuket than Pattaya. I always tell people Phuket is the tourist ripoff place. No idea where more people go, but all you see in Phuket airport is tourists. Remember there are direct flights from many countries into Phuket. I think most flights there are from other countries versus from within Thailand. Everybody has to see Koh Phi Phi. The folks that go to Pattaya are mongers and Asians that have been sold a cheap tour package.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I was referring to paying for sex costs more money in Pattaya.[/QUOTE][U]Do [b]International Trickin[/b] activities cost more in Pattaya than Phuket[/U]?
I have heard nothing of the sort from anyone that has lived or just visited both places. I can point you to places in Pattaya where you can get your dick sucked for 500*, Boom Boom for 1000 - 1200. There is an individual reporting LONG TIME from girls willing to provide social / sexual services on [U]Thai Friendly[/U] for 1300. Another reporting he get girls from Top Tier Agogos for 1500. Someone who actually knows about prices in Phuket, please feel free to chime in.
Full Disclosure: [B]No, I have never been to Phuket[/B].
[I]*All prices in THB[/I]
Just wrapped up my 4 day trip to Pattaya (Oct24-28). I had work during day so adventure time was primarily from 5 Pm till 3 am.
I stayed on beach road. Like 3 min walking to Soi 6.
Day 1.
Reached BKK and had then had another 2 hours before checked into the hotel. I had already exchanged messages on TG and Line for outcall massage. Choose a girl and she came to hotel.
Reception kept her ID and called me.
Honestly I do not recall if she was the one I choose from the pic but she was young - 22 year old. Was dressed very conservatively with her massage dress with shop name on.
I changed into my birthday suit. I definitely needed that massage and she was focusing well on the massage part. Since it was my hotel room. I offered her beer which she accepted.
Finally on the flip. I asked her to focus on johnny. I was told she has never done anything like this and all she can do is HJ. I asked her to take her clothes off but she stuck to her gun for only HJ.
Surprisingly, I was not upset. Primarily because her English was decent and her face was 8/10. She was young, shy and I went for HJ for 500.
Day 2.
I was hell bent on trying someone from TF this time (my last Bangkok visit was disappointing on TF front).
Thanks to MickeyDuck1208, he had lovely TF experience and shared with me details of 2 encounters he had. I called one of them (which per mickey) was closest to her actual pic.
Did video call and set up a time to come to my hotel asked her to dress up and makeup as she does in all her pics. She said she always does.
She looked and smelled great. Arrived on time, her ID was taken by reception. Her English was pretty good. Best I have seen and she mentioned she was nanny to some expat. Offered her drink.
Started kissing. I am big into DFK. Made her horny and off came the clothes.
I was little drunk which makes me last longer. She was an amazing kisser. Gave me a long sloppy BJ and sucked my balls. Fucked her in various positions and finally came in missionary while sucking her tits.
She was petite with mid size tits and darker skin (to my liking) and curly hairs. Dressed very well. Over all great experience 8/10. She was in no hurry. Vaped post session. Took shower and left. (2000 bhat damage).
I was there with few friends. Later at night went to dinner at some really fancy place and jet lag fucked me while coming back. I stopped at hotel and they went to walking street.
Will write more on Day 3 and 4 in Pattaya and then Bangkok.
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3037287]Sorry I was referring to paying for sex costs more money in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Sex costs more in Phuket. Everything costs more in Phuket. I know chicks that left because they could not afford to pay for a room and food in Phuket. I have been to Phuket twice. After the first time I said I would not go back. Then years later had some friends come in from Dubai and they wanted me to make the trip with them. That trip was further confirmation that everything is more expensive and there was no need to go back. Remember Phuket is an island and things generally cost more on an island than on the mainland. Nobody is traveling from the mainland to an island to make less money while having a higher cost of living. I went to massage shops, bars, discos, and online looking for chicks. Illuzion Disco on Bangla Rd is 99.8% foreign tourists and. 2% Thai freelancers who are going to want 3000 baht. I ended up getting chicks from online both trips. The first time I went I drove across town to some chick who I met online because that was the cheapest thing going. Forgot the price I paid, but I made a report about it. You can search the report with pictures in the Phuket section. It had to be about 15 or 16 years ago though.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3036857][B]Thai Friendly:[/B] you are taking a risk on what the girl who show up at your door looks like. Unless you meet her for an interview so that you are not dealing with a problem at your door or in your room. I know that there are claims that 1300* Long Time is available. That has not been my experience. Usually older (and that is relative to your own age a personal preferences) girls will accept 2000 for Long Time. But younger more attractive girls are going to ask for 3000 Long Time. With the girls that are smoking hot asking for 4000 Long Time.
[B]Soi 6[/B]: Bar Fines between 500 - 1000; with [I]Long Time 4000[/I]. If Long Time is two shots that the same value to me as [I]Short Time for 2000[/I]. So, you are getting the stranger to sleep with you (something I am not comfortable with) for free. Along with her time. If you are bar fining for long time before midnight then there won't be any other expenses if all you do is head to the room and bust that first nut out, sleep and bust another nut in the morning before she leaves.
[B]My favorite is short time![/B] Last time I was there (on Soi 6 - 7 days ago) room costs were 300 - 500 and amounts quoted to me were 1300 - 3000. That being said my personal preferences are Gentlemans Clubs, Naughty Massage Places and [U]Thai Friendly[/U]. But even as [U]Thai Friendly[/U] can represent an excellent value overall, for me nothing beats being out on the street or up in the the bar / club and getting that direct 1 on 1 personal interaction with the potential prostitute you plan to hire.
[I]*All figures THB[/I][/QUOTE]Very good information CMDR.
Love the concise but useful detail. I am planning my trip to thailand. Had been once but didtn have time to go pattaya. I will be in Bangkok+pattaya next month in total 10 days. Want to try pattaya atleast 2 nights. Is 2 nights good enough of too little? How is Thai Friendly when compared to Bangkok?
I have been going to Jakarta 2/3 times a year for 10 years now and I am over it now. So considering Thailand in the mix. I always had great success in TInder and other similar online sites. Is Thaifriendly close to Tinder or Cupid sites?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3037376][U]Do [b]International Trickin[/b] activities cost more in Pattaya than Phuket[/U]?
I have heard nothing of the sort from anyone that has lived or just visited both places. I can point you to places in Pattaya where you can get your dick sucked for 500*, Boom Boom for 1000 - 1200. There is an individual reporting LONG TIME from girls willing to provide social / sexual services on [U]Thai Friendly[/U] for 1300. Another reporting he get girls from Top Tier Agogos for 1500. Someone who actually knows about prices in Phuket, please feel free to chime in.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is much cheaper than Phuket.
Sounds like the time when Banana Disco and Tiger Lounge used to be open if it was 15-16 years ago. If my memory serves me correctly women who work the strip clubs, lounges or disco techs always want more money than the women work the bars.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3037453]Sex costs more in Phuket. Everything costs more in Phuket. I know chicks that left because they could not afford to pay for a room and food in Phuket. I have been to Phuket twice. After the first time I said I would not go back. Then years later had some friends come in from Dubai and they wanted me to make the trip with them. That trip was further confirmation that everything is more expensive and there was no need to go back. Remember Phuket is an island and things generally cost more on an island than on the mainland. Nobody is traveling from the mainland to an island to make less money while having a higher cost of living. I went to massage shops, bars, discos, and online looking for chicks. Illuzion Disco on Bangla Rd is 99.8% foreign tourists and. 2% Thai freelancers who are going to want 3000 baht. I ended up getting chicks from online both trips. The first time I went I drove across town to some chick who I met online because that was the cheapest thing going. Forgot the price I paid, but I made a report about it. You can search the report with pictures in the Phuket section. It had to be about 15 or 16 years ago though.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard of a 500 BHT BJ in ages and that sounds like rates from 20 years ago. But you could be right because I never been to Pattaya before.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3037376][U]Do [b]International Trickin[/b] activities cost more in Pattaya than Phuket[/U]?
I have heard nothing of the sort from anyone that has lived or just visited both places. I can point you to places in Pattaya where you can get your dick sucked for 500*, Boom Boom for 1000 - 1200. There is an individual reporting LONG TIME from girls willing to provide social / sexual services on [U]Thai Friendly[/U] for 1300. Another reporting he get girls from Top Tier Agogos for 1500. Someone who actually knows about prices in Phuket, please feel free to chime in.[/QUOTE]
I've met that girl in soi 6 around 3 weeks ago.
She was freshly arrived from Essan a few days before I met her, had an angel's face, quite tall for a Thai girl, 18, with a very nice looking body. All natural without a single tattoo or weird stuff done on her body.
I spent some time in the bar with her and at her third drink she started getting pushy to get me barfining her.
I've never paid to take a girl out of the bar on soi 6 because I never saw any value in it. My MO has always been to go there, get my things done over there and go back to my usual life alone. But that girl looked very willing to do it, and her being so young and attractive made me think twice.
A quick math at that time revealed that I would already be down 3 K baht if I wanted to ST her (3 drinks already paid for (180 * 3), my drink (75), price for the room (400), the girl's price (2 K)). After the girl went to ask a few times to mama and cashier (she was clueless about what had to be paid) I understood that I would have to pay 3400 to the bar, and 3 K for the girl.
The girl needs to get 10 ladydrinks during that day before she can be barfined (she said she didn't receive any before I came in), and the price of the barfine at 9 h30 pm on a week day was 1500 baht. Which meant that barfining her would roughly cost the price of two ST. Seen that way, I thought it might be worth barfining her, given that I would get two shots in a much better environment, I would enjoy her company for much longer and wouldn't be under the same time pressure than in the ST rooms.
Long story short, I've been satisfied with that first barfine, even though I almost sent her back in the opening hours because she tried to put some limits early in the evening and she then tried to get away without the second shot in the morning. But I finally got two satisfying fucks with her during that time, and both were barebacked too. She also seemed to be happy when I brought her back to her bar the next day.
Two days later I see her again in her bar, pay her a few drinks, she wants to get barfined again but I refuse because she's got a sore throat and I don't want to have to deal with her being sick. She still makes me promise I'm going to come and barfine her one more time before the day I was scheduled to leave the city.
Seven days later, I walked in front of her bar and she was standing there, available. Naturally we get to each other and I start paying her some drinks again. Same routine, she pressures me to barfine her again (of course, she remembers very well my promise) but this time it is 8 h30 pm, and the price of the barfine is still 2500 so I decide to wait 9 h30 instead.
We get to the same price than last time, around 3400 paid to the bar. The girl gets down wearing a nice long dress, with more make up than she had in the bar. While I drive her back to my place on my bike, I see she is texting someone. I didn't pay much attention about that, because the first night she even video called one of her friends for around 30 minutes, so I thought that's the same kind of stuff.
We reach my room and she then tells me she wants to shave her pussy tonight (she had a perfect Bush that I loved, but of course she was not concerned about my opinion) so we head down to the 7-11 and I bought her the stuff she needed plus some food.
Back to the room she made me promise that I won't fuck her more than 3 times, and I was happy with that (I told her in the bar that tonight I'm going to fuck her many times and she didn't react when we were in there). After eating, it took us around an hour to shave her pussy. She started first, and I helped her in the places she couldn't reach properly.
During all that time, she was still texting from time to time.
Then we started some preliminaries, DFK, I sucked her boobs, DATY, rimmed her ass before she asked to go to the toilet (and took her phone with her). When she comes back, she says she's got a bad diarheea and her tummy hurts. She then tries to renegate on the 3 shots promise, and wants only two. I didn't have the 3 shots anyway and I wanted to keep that option just in case, but after some back and forth I finally agreed. Then she wanted more, said I fucked her for too long last time and it hurt her so she wanted me to be much quicker this time. That request, I didn't want to agree with, because she would surely start asking every two minutes if I'm about to cum. As we were not agreeing she started saying she won't stay there then, and won't wait for my 3000 bahts. I didn't take her seriously and tried to make her get back to her sense but eventually she kept coming back to that idea regularly. So I had to remind her that I was already down 3400 baht and I didn't get anything out of it yet (I also spent 300 in the 7-11 but I didn't care about that, it was the money paid to the bar that I was concerned about). She then says how much did you spend in the bar? 3400 right? How about I give you back that money and I go now?
I thought she was playing with me just to get me accept her conditions. As I was still firm, she got up, reached her bag, took 3400 baht out of her bag, put it on the table and started getting dressed. She was a bit concerned that I would go and complain to the cashier or mama though, but I assured her as she refunded me I won't go and complain in the bar (I checked first and saw she really put the 3400 on the table). Until the last moment I had the feeling she was still playing around and hesitating, but eventually she reached the door, asked if she didn't forget anything and I told her to take all the stuff we just bought. That's only when she was at the door that I told her I know you're going to meet someone else, that idea didn't even struck my mind before that moment because I didn't believe she would blow all that money so easily. The worst being that she told me see you tonight when she left, thinking that I'm in love and I would go and reach her again in her bar.
So here is the math for people who are not aware of how these bars proceed: the girl gets a 60 baht kickback on every ladydrink she gets, and 10% of the barfine which means the next day, mama gave her 750 baht. She spent 3400 in my room, which means she's been down 2650 baht that night.
If she had stayed with me for the whole night as scheduled, she would have been up 3750 baht instead.
It was already half past midnight when she left so I couldn't go and find another girl for my night, while she just blown 6400 bahts following her (emotionally driven?) decision.
I'm still scratching my head at what happened than night. I never thought I would experience a reversed session where it's the prostitute that got up, get dressed early in the session and get the fuck out of the room because she is not satisfied with her customer.
As the title says but commenting you are adding nothing but misinformation. 500 baht is standard at Gentleman clubs for a BJ. In Pattaya most expensive would be GoGo then bars like soi 6 then freelancers in clubs then Thai friendly then GC as that is standard at 1000 baht with a bit of ymmv mixed in.
Hey guys, can you please help me? This is my first time in Pattaya, and honestly, after Bangkok, everything is completely strange to me. I'm a shy guy who doesn't really like to talk before making a deal. I've been looking for a long time for places in Pattaya similar to the massage parlors in Bangkok, where you can book a girl for a specific time through Line. But I can't find anything similar in Pattaya. There are only numerous bars where you have to chat and negotiate. I'm a family man and only have a couple of hours a day, so I'd like to significantly reduce my search time. Please advise, I'm sure there's something similar out there.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3038045]I've met that girl in soi 6 around 3 weeks ago.
She was freshly arrived from Essan a few days before I met her, had an angel's face, quite tall for a Thai girl, 18, with a very nice looking body. All natural without a single tattoo or weird stuff done on her body.
I spent some time in the bar with her and at her third drink she started getting pushy to get me barfining her.
I've never paid to take a girl out of the bar on soi 6 because I never saw any value in it. My MO has always been to go there, get my things done over there and go back to my usual life alone. But that girl looked very willing to do it, and her being so young and attractive made me think twice.
A quick math at that time revealed that I would already be down 3 K baht if I wanted to ST her (3 drinks already paid for (180 * 3), my drink (75), price for the room (400), the girl's price (2 K)). After the girl went to ask a few times to mama and cashier (she was clueless about what had to be paid) I understood that I would have to pay 3400 to the bar, and 3 K for the girl..[/QUOTE]Normally this happens with most of the girls who work at Omega, Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3038045]If she had stayed with me for the whole night as scheduled, she would have been up 3750 baht instead.
I'm still scratching my head at what happened than night. I never thought I would experience a reversed session where it's the prostitute that got up, get dressed early in the session and get the fuck out of the room because she is not satisfied with her customer.[/QUOTE]I keep telling you guys that money is not everything around here. Especially when she has made so much already. Y'all continue to act like 3000 baht is something to sneeze at around here. Westerners thinking: This is a perfect opportunity to make an extra 3000 baht. Her thinking: I have already made 3000 baht, so I can sit back and chill, or go to the disco, or go stay all night with this guy I really like for 1200 baht.
Day 3.
This was full day that I had, as morning was also free. Nothing starts till 2 PM.
I was sure that I will take a stroll down the soi 6 because the day I arrived in Pattaya the van guy took the van from soi 6 around 2 PM ish and I could see some real gems from the tainted black glasses. I made note of names of bars but by day 3 had fucking no recollections.
Started by going to sabai dee with friends and checking honey 2. Got the rate list immediately from papasan as I entered. Did that around 4-5 PM limited ladies but nothing that caught my eye. Had beer and hung out for 15 minutes and didn't went with anyone.
Walked back to our hotel from the alley and then to beach road. Found that legit massage place that have 300 bhat foot massage on stones throw away from soi 6 enterance from beach road. Went in and got the foot massage and felt great.
TF had some prospects and finalize one for later tonight. The pics were like 10/10. She also send a video on what's app.
She asked how much I will pay and I said 1500 but she said No and told me she is from BKK and not like cheap Pattaya girls.
Any how paid 2000. They all always are late, maybe because of the traffic on beach road. So I send her location of bar that was walking from my hotel and got beer. She arrived late. Looked nothing like her pics atleast that's what I felt but was definately fuckable. Shared a beer with her and walked back handed her ID at reception.
Action started. Nice BJ, great ass, lot of DFK and I pounded her very hard and it felt like she was hurting. I like starting slow and picking pace but I was 2 beer down and fucked her pretty hard. Normally I want the girl to cowboy to make her horny but I was too mean and made her give me BJ for really long.
Ended up in missionary with me sucking her tits.
Took shower together and wrapped.
Night was young it was 11 PM. Did some dinner at one of the night markets.
Headed to soi 6. Did the customary scroll and tried to spot some stunners. Reached at end and sat at the bar towards the end.
Right across the bar had few stunners, ogled them and saw few of them coming out of the bars and some going in with customers. I liked one but she was gone.
Checked with mamasan and asked if ST can be done at my hotel, she was fine. Quoted 4 K for ST. I said fuck no.
Decided to head in back to start of soi 6. Picked one of the stunners and went in. Spend 1 K but didn't felt the chemistry, maybe because it was too loud and all these bars have really small spaces. Any how she tried to take me upstairs but I just bailed out.
Off to walking street and went to that place Jalwa. That place was fucking crowded like anything. Waiters makes commission on getting your order and I had 3 of them just asking me what will I drink. I was not seeing any tables ordered beers and this fucker charged me like 1100 for 3 beers and said he will find me a table. Took me to a place on the corner where table already had few folks and we stood there. I told the folks lets go on stage and dance. It was super crowded and we were stopped because you cannot take bottles.
I felt the hookers had an attitude (I know for sure as I figured out day 4) so we bailed.
Wrapped up with some weed, McD and famous walk on beach road (lot of lady boys).
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3038045]
I'm still scratching my head at what happened than night. I never thought I would experience a reversed session where it's the prostitute that got up, get dressed early in the session and get the fuck out of the room because she is not satisfied with her customer.[/QUOTE]Best to not worry about any logical explanation and just move on. Logic and hookers aren't usually mentioned in the same sentence.
Having said that here are a few options: she met a whale last night, is flush with cash, so doesn't feel like having her guys fucked out tonight; a whale was calling her so she left for a better offer; she doesn't like you.
I'll agree that it's rare for a girl to pay the guy. Normally they just make our life a living hell until we kick them out.
Nice photos, by the way.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3038045]I've met that girl in soi 6 around 3 weeks ago.
She was freshly arrived from Essan a few days before I met her, had an angel's face, quite tall for a Thai girl, 18, with a very nice looking body. All natural without a single tattoo or weird stuff done on her body.
I spent some time in the bar with her and at her third drink she started getting pushy to get me barfining her.
I've never paid to take a girl out of the bar on soi 6 because I never saw any value in it. My MO has always been to go there, get my things done over there and go back to my usual life alone. But that girl looked very willing to do it, and her being so young and attractive made me think twice.
SNIP
It was already half past midnight when she left so I couldn't go and find another girl for my night, while she just blown 6400 bahts following her (emotionally driven?) decision.
I'm still scratching my head at what happened than night. I never thought I would experience a reversed session where it's the prostitute that got up, get dressed early in the session and get the fuck out of the room because she is not satisfied with her customer.[/QUOTE]This is a bog standard Pattaya barfine story. She had someone else she preferred to hang out with and she got you make it as least costly for her as possible. Girls often do this once they've met their quota for the day / week / month / contract. Don't forget she's most likely had multiple customers before and after you first met her, so you're just another number for her.
Options of the mystery background person include but are not limited to: her Thai BF / GF, her foreign BF / GF, friends she can go hangout with and go clubbing with, her family, a higher paying customer.
She's 18 and has the attention span of a gnat like every other 18 yo. I'm surprised she didn't pull that move on you the first time you barfined her, that would be inexperience on her part I guess. I hope this lesson was a valuable one for you.
I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]One week I would stay the whole time in pattaya and maybe the last day / night in BKK to avoid the traffic jam on the return to airport. Pattaya to bkk is like 2 hrs and cost around 1 k to 2 k depending of the taxi company. Nam taxi is the best one I know.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]If it's one week then I would stick to one location, either Bangkok or Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]One week I would go to all 3.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]If we're talking about a week, then go straight from the airport to Pattaya and spend your whole time there.
But it depends on your preferences. If you like big, smelly cities with 24/7 traffic chaos, then stay in Bangkok. If you have too much money and love Moscow, then go to Phuket.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]I agree with the other comments, that you can better stick to one place. The scene in Bangkok and Pattaya is just way too big to explore in just a couple of days. And maybe you will also have a jet lag when you arrive, but that obviously depends on where you're coming from.
Also, Phuket takes quite some travel time, compared to Pattaya for example, so I wouldn't do that if I were you.
I did 1st visit to thailand last spring. If you have the time, I would recommend 10 days to 2 weeks and visit both pattaya and Bangkok. They both offer different opportunities and I enjoyed both. Easy and cheap travel between both. Bangkok is big city. I stayed between nana and cowboy so easy walk to both and to travel on BTS. Pattaya is beach town. And for me beach not beautiful to swim, is nice to walk and check out vendors and beach girls. I found pattaya a bit cheaper and easier to get around. I did Pattaya 1st and when I return I will spend most time in Pattaya. You will have fun, experiance all you can.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3038263]One week I would go to all 3.[/QUOTE]" watch yourself " LOL.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]My opinion, it depends on your week? When you arrived and when you depart? That determines if you really have a full week! Either way Phuket for me at least is too far and time consuming.
So that narrows down to 2 days in Bangkok for a start. Since Pattaya two hours, I go to Ekaimai and catch the bus 131 baht A / see to Pattaya if that is your thing. If you are lucky it doesn't make a lot of stops.
Plan on two days if you don't like then reverse directions and go back to Bangkok for the rest of your stay my suggestion gives you 2 out of the 3 LOL.
[URL]https://www.pattaya-transfer.com/booking-taxi-bangkok-pattaya.aspx?[/URL]
I used them in April & May 2025 between the main airport and Pattaya. ฿1,200 each way. No need to tip. Pleasant drivers with clean, newish Toyota Corollas. 90 minutes on the toll road (they pay the toll). Paying in advance is optional but please don't mess them about. Just supply your name and flight/time-of-arrival online, and you will be on a name-tree at the arrivals level, by exit 3. The agent then takes you up to departures by escalator, where the car is parked.
An alternative is to go straight up to departure level where taxis are dropping off. Can negotiate around the same price but driver-attitude and vehicle condition will be uncertain.
Tips: if you have time and want to change a lot of cash at good rates, go down to the airport basement, where the trains are, and ask for the 'Superrich' money-changer booth. Otherwise use an ATM on the arrivals level. The airport train to Phaya Thai or Makkasan can save time and money, depending on 'rush hours' and your tolerance for some minor effort after a long flight.
https://thailandawaits.com/train-from-bangkok-airport/
I would avoid using Grab to Bangkok city or Pattaya as their desk is busy and fares more expensive. Best used for shorter trips once in town.
Most 7/11 convenience stores will sell you a tourist SIM-card for ฿350. Bring your passport and they will register the SIM to you. The included data and call allowance (True SIM) easily lasted me a month but domestic calls terminate after 15 minutes!
You can make international calls on a tourist SIM card in Thailand. Major providers like AIS, True (formerly TrueMove H and DTAC), and DTAC offer tourist plans that include international calling options, often with discounted rates when using specific prefix codes. For example, AIS offers international calls at ฿1 per minute ($0.03), while True provides a 100 Baht credit for international calls on its tourist plans. To make cheaper international calls, you must use the designated IDD prefix codes provided by your network provider, such as 004 for DTAC or 00600 for True Move H, which significantly reduce costs compared to standard rates. It is essential to have sufficient credit on your account to cover the charges, as international calls are not free and require top-up.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3038463][URL]https://www.pattaya-transfer.com/booking-taxi-bangkok-pattaya.aspx?[/URL]
I used them in April & May 2025 between the main airport and Pattaya. ฿1,200 each way. No need to tip. Pleasant drivers with clean, newish Toyota Corollas. 90 minutes on the toll road (they pay the toll). Paying in advance is optional but please don't mess them about. Just supply your name and flight/time-of-arrival online, and you will be on a name-tree at the arrivals level, by exit 3. The agent then takes you up to departures by escalator, where the car is parked.[/QUOTE]My place only charges 1000. And usually my driver pulls up in front of door 3 when they call them. I have had to walk to the parking lot with the driver before though, but that was many years ago. Something I noticed while waiting the other day is that a SIM package was attached to the back of one of the sheets on the name tree. So maybe some of the taxi companies are offering an option where they will already have a SIM waiting for you. With whatever company you book with, maybe you can inquire about them doing that.
[QUOTE=Jizzme;3038212]I'm going to visit for the first time and will stay about a week. Do you guys advise to stay the whole time in Bangkok or is it worthwhile to visit Pattaya or Phuket or other cities?[/QUOTE]Why are you going? For pussy? If your answer is yes, go to Pattaya straight from the airport. It will be unlike anything you have ever experienced before. In a good way.
If you don't absolutely fucking love it, leave early and go back to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3038463]
Tips: if you have time and want to change a lot of cash at good rates, go down to the airport basement, where the trains are, and ask for the 'Superrich' money-changer booth. [/QUOTE]Actually, all of the exchange booths down in the basement of the airport have the same rates. So there's no need to go to Superrich specifically.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3038502]Actually, all of the exchange booths down in the basement of the airport have the same rates. So there's no need to go to Superrich specifically.[/QUOTE]Exchange rates at exchange booths at the airport are complete rip-offs. Not sure about Superrich at the airport, so if you're going to exchange a large amount it might be worth checking it out.
Definitely, do not change large amounts at the airport exchange booths. Better to use an ATM to get what you need until you can find a better place to change your money.
I personally, like Superrich, they normally have a booth at all major malls. That being said, you'll find exchange booths at all the major tourist spots and you can check-out which provides the better rate of exchange.
[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3038503]Exchange rates at exchange booths at the airport are complete rip-offs. Not sure about Superrich at the airport, so if you're going to exchange a large amount it might be worth checking it out.
Definitely, do not change large amounts at the airport exchange booths. Better to use an ATM to get what you need until you can find a better place to change your money.
I personally, like Superrich, they normally have a booth at all major malls. That being said, you'll find exchange booths at all the major tourist spots and you can check-out which provides the better rate of exchange.[/QUOTE]Superrich is probably the best exchange house on the planet for Thai / USD exchange but different branches will have different rates. SIA Money Exchange also has very good rates. You can also get surprisingly good exchange rates at many of the small money exchange kiosks in Pattaya (just walk around and compare rates). The spread between the buy and sell from these exchange houses is some of the smallest in the world for any currency.
[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3038503]Exchange rates at exchange booths at the airport are complete rip-offs. Not sure about Superrich at the airport, so if you're going to exchange a large amount it might be worth checking it out.
Definitely, do not change large amounts at the airport exchange booths. Better to use an ATM to get what you need until you can find a better place to change your money.
I personally, like Superrich, they normally have a booth at all major malls. That being said, you'll find exchange booths at all the major tourist spots and you can check-out which provides the better rate of exchange.[/QUOTE]A few months ago I needed to change Thai baht into USD before my flight to the USA. I have never done this before as I normally hold on to my baht for my next Thailand trip. I checked several of the booths next to each other near the train station. To my surprise Superrich offered a remarkably good exchange rate, better than the other booths right next to it.
[QUOTE=GreenToad;3038509]Superrich is probably the best exchange house on the planet for Thai / USD exchange but different branches will have different rates.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.superrichthailand.com/#en/exchange#rate-section[/URL]
I see Superrich now have a branch in Pattaya but rates are not quite as good as the Rajdamri 1 Head Office. Their website does not list Suwannaphum (BKK) airport. Armed with known-branch rates, one might check the airport basement branch out of interest. I was satisfied with their rates in April 2025 but could have done better at Rajdamri; I was only visiting Pattaya.
Daily, money-market fluctuations can outweigh rate differences between branches. Beware: there is a fake 'Superrich' -- with a questionable sign -- possibly (from memory) on South Pattaya road.
Thai ATMs commonly dispense a maximum of ฿30,000 per withdrawal, although you may not get that much if your home bank imposes a lower limit. Placing money into a Wise account and requesting a debit card skirts that problem, minimising foreign-card fees.
Manila/Cebu HSBC ATMs offer ₱40,000. Wise debit is also useful for instantaneously paying large, merchant bills at preferential rates, without submitting to mainstream, home-bank scrutiny.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3038542][URL]https://www.superrichthailand.com/#en/exchange#rate-section[/URL]
I see Superrich now have a branch in Pattaya but rates are not quite as good as the Rajdamri 1 Head Office. Their website does not list Suwannaphum (BKK) airport. .[/QUOTE]The booths near the Airport Rail Link downstairs in BKK airport seem to be gone, I saw only the bank one (Kasikorn maybe) at the top of the ramp last week. Shit rate at that counter, more than 5 Baht lower per € than Superrich downtown. Good news is that Superrich now have booths at a few downtown BTS station concourses, for example Asok.
[QUOTE=EdSetra;3038549]The booths near the Airport Rail Link downstairs in BKK airport seem to be gone, I saw only the bank one (Kasikorn maybe) at the top of the ramp last week. Shit rate at that counter, more than 5 Baht lower per than Superrich downtown. Good news is that Superrich now have booths at a few downtown BTS station concourses, for example Asok.[/QUOTE]Take this with a grain of salt, as have seen both it being closed / open. So, your guess is as good as mine. It does seem it was in operation on 15 Oct 2025, by a FB poster.
Google AI answer, when asked if BKK Airport had a Superrich.
Yes, theSuperRich money exchange booth at Suvarnabhumi Airport is open, with hours typically from 6:30 AM to 10:00 PM, according to a recent Facebook post. However, keep in mind that airport exchange rates can sometimes be less favorable than those at branches in the city, so it is advisable to only exchange a small amount to get you to your hotel.
[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3038553]Take this with a grain of salt, as have seen both it being closed / open. So, your guess is as good as mine. It does seem it was in operation on 15 Oct 2025, by a FB poster.
Google AI answer, when asked if BKK Airport had a Superrich.
Yes, theSuperRich money exchange booth at Suvarnabhumi Airport is open, with hours typically from 6:30 AM to 10:00 PM, according to a recent Facebook post. However, keep in mind that airport exchange rates can sometimes be less favorable than those at branches in the city, so it is advisable to only exchange a small amount to get you to your hotel.[/QUOTE]Google AI quoting a Facebook post on 15 October is out of date. My eyes saw no SuperRich last week (where it used to be located at the entrance to the ARL). If there is one elsewhere in the airport I'll use the salt.
[QUOTE=EdSetra;3038549]The booths near the Airport Rail Link downstairs in BKK airport seem to be gone, I saw only the bank one (Kasikorn maybe) at the top of the ramp last week. Shit rate at that counter, more than 5 Baht lower per than Superrich downtown. Good news is that Superrich now have booths at a few downtown BTS station concourses, for example Asok.[/QUOTE]The booths in the basement of the airport, including Superrich, were still (or again?) there on November 13.
The Superrich booths at the BTS stations, like Asok, have been there for quite some years already.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3038682]The booths in the basement of the airport, including Superrich, were still (or again?) there on November 13.
The Superrich booths at the BTS stations, like Asok, have been there for quite some years already.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll wear my glasses next time. Pass the salt.
Hi guys, so I'm in Pattaya at the moment and was looking forward to grabbing a beer while I get a nice BJ. As it turns out, this is harder to get than I thought. Problem is an overabundance of strip clubs and finding the good old BJ bar is like finding a needle in a hay stack. If anyone could kindly share the name of such said establishment so I can cut through the fat and go directly there to fulfill a crave, it would be appreciated. If the bar (s) are not in Pattaya but rather in Bangkok, please share the name. Many thanks!!
[QUOTE=Verraco;3038841]Hi guys, so I'm in Pattaya at the moment and was looking forward to grabbing a beer while I get a nice BJ. As it turns out, this is harder to get than I thought. Problem is an overabundance of strip clubs and finding the good old BJ bar is like finding a needle in a hay stack.[/QUOTE]Mentioned here over and over again. Go to Soi Xzyte, Soi Bongkot, and Soi Honey.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3038854]Mentioned here over and over again. Go to Soi Xzyte, Soi Bongkot, and Soi Honey.[/QUOTE]I personally like 007 club, Lips lounge and Legs Eleven.
BTW, where is soy xzyte?
[QUOTE=Algumetu;3038922]I personally like 007 club, Lips lounge and Legs Eleven.
BTW, where is soy xzyte?[/QUOTE]Soi Excite (Soi Chaloem Phrakiat 23 Alley) is the curved street to the left of Soi Chaiyapoon (Soi 25) if you are on Soi Buakhao. Excite Club is on that street, alomng with some girlie bars.
Hello all, you experienced mongers, appreciate all the info here. I was in Pattaya once about 12 years ago for 4-5 days (another 2-3 in Bangkok) and pretty much confined myself to Beach Road Walking Street, with one or two forays up Soi 6 (I think) and LK Metro. The sheer size of the place and the number of options was a bit daunting for this old gringo. Fast forward 12 years + one divorce and I'm ready to go back to the place I recall so fondly. I've found in my travels to other places that having a fun, trustworthy local guide opens up things that you would never see otherwise, so I'd like to do that in Pattaya. Someone who can take me to the best spots (hottest women, most fun venues, best restaurants) and also show me some things off the beaten path, maybe a new up and coming soi or establishment that I would never have found on my own. Do any of you know of a service like this?
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3039569]Hello all, you experienced mongers, appreciate all the info here. I was in Pattaya once about 12 years ago for 4-5 days (another 2-3 in Bangkok) and pretty much confined myself to Beach Road Walking Street, with one or two forays up Soi 6 (I think) and LK Metro. The sheer size of the place and the number of options was a bit daunting for this old gringo. Fast forward 12 years + one divorce and I'm ready to go back to the place I recall so fondly. I've found in my travels to other places that having a fun, trustworthy local guide opens up things that you would never see otherwise, so I'd like to do that in Pattaya. Someone who can take me to the best spots (hottest women, most fun venues, best restaurants) and also show me some things off the beaten path, maybe a new up and coming soi or establishment that I would never have found on my own. Do any of you know of a service like this?[/QUOTE]With a guide you don't know and who is there to monger you risk to be scammed tbh. Its the same things then 12 years ago, nothing really changed. There is some new gogo on WS but the sure values for hot girls is XS and pin ups.
Soi6 doesn't require a guide, you walk on it and point and click the girls you want. Massage place arent sure values in all case you have to do you own shopping. For daytime action its the dating apps of the GC but girls in GC are usually fat and ugly.
[QUOTE=Verraco;3038841] finding the good old BJ bar is like finding a needle in a hay stack. If anyone could kindly share the name of such said establishment so I can cut through the fat and go directly there to fulfill a crave, it would be appreciated. If the bar (s) are not in Pattaya but rather in Bangkok, please share the name.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya, there's a bunch of BJ bars on Soi Chaiyapoon (find it on Google Maps), a short street off Soi Buakhao.
In Bangkok there's the Wood Bar, Kasalong, Lolitas, Duangporn's Haven (all in Nana to Asoke area), and also a few on Patpong Soi 2 (not Soi 1 with the market). Should set you back around 800 baht.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;3039638]In Pattaya, there's a bunch of BJ bars on Soi Chaiyapoon (find it on Google Maps), a short street off Soi Buakhao.
In Bangkok there's the Wood Bar, Kasalong, Lolitas, Duangporn's Haven (all in Nana to Asoke area), and also a few on Patpong Soi 2 (not Soi 1 with the market). Should set you back around 800 baht.[/QUOTE]Which are the BJ bars on Soi Chaiyapoon?
Yeah, you can get a BJ in any closed bar (meaning a bar with a front door), they typically offer FS, as well.
Follow mongers,
I was in Pattaya about a month ago. I stayed near LK Metro. This was only my second trip to Pattaya of my 10+ mongering trips to LOS. This time I met most of the girls through TF. Of the 7 girls I met 5 was via TF. It is a bit of a hassle and can be time consuming. I found one gem that I will repeat next time I got to Pattaya. Some of the girls I met were part-timers, one worked in a shop in a mall. Another in a 7/11.
The gem, was truly fun to meet. She spoke ok English, ok enough to tell some jokes and laugh together. After a few drinks in my hotel room we went down to business. She started giving me a decent blowjob, I had my toys ready on the bed and she really enjoyed the small butt plug. It was truly satisfying to fuck her in mish when she had the butt plug in her ass. She reminded me of a girlfriend I had in my 20's who enjoyed anal. I turned her around and pulled out the butt plug, and when I slowly inserted my dick in her ass I heard her moan. After a few minutes in doggy anal, I flipped her around and started to use my vibrator on her clit, and I fucked her ass at the same time. I finished all over her face and she smiled when I finished. Like a true porn star!
My last days in the LOS were spent with one of my regulars in Hua Hin. Will write a report in the HH section.
Take care and happy hunting!
/ Kirsia.
[QUOTE=Kirsia123;3039785]Follow mongers,
I was in Pattaya about a month ago. I stayed near LK Metro. This was only my second trip to Pattaya of my 10+ mongering trips to LOS. This time I met most of the girls through TF. Of the 7 girls I met 5 was via TF. It is a bit of a hassle and can be time consuming. I found one gem that I will repeat next time I got to Pattaya. Some of the girls I met were part-timers, one worked in a shop in a mall. Another in a 7/11.
The gem, was truly fun to meet. She spoke ok English, ok enough to tell some jokes and laugh together. After a few drinks in my hotel room we went down to business. She started giving me a decent blowjob, I had my toys ready on the bed and she really enjoyed the small butt plug. It was truly satisfying to fuck her in mish when she had the butt plug in her ass. She reminded me of a girlfriend I had in my 20's who enjoyed anal. I turned her around and pulled out the butt plug, and when I slowly inserted my dick in her ass I heard her moan. After a few minutes in doggy anal, I flipped her around and started to use my vibrator on her clit, and I fucked her ass at the same time. I finished all over her face and she smiled when I finished. Like a true porn star!.[/QUOTE]Hi, nice review, you have contact details of the gem girl?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3039621]With a guide you don't know and who is there to monger you risk to be scammed tbh. Its the same things then 12 years ago, nothing reallay changed. There is some new gogo on WS but the sure values for hot girls is XS and pin ups.
Soi6 doesn't require a guide, you walk on it and point and click the girls you want. Massage place arent sure values in all case you have to do you own shopping. For daytime action its the dating apps of the GC but girls in GC are usually fat and ugly.[/QUOTE]Thanks, if not much has changed it will still be great. What's GC? I also see that Thai Friendly is good, do you have any experience with that app?
[QUOTE=Kirsia123;3039785]The gem, was truly fun to meet. She spoke ok English, ok enough to tell some jokes and laugh together. After a few drinks in my hotel room we went down to business. She started giving me a decent blowjob, I had my toys ready on the bed and she really enjoyed the small butt plug. It was truly satisfying to fuck her in mish when she had the butt plug in her ass. She reminded me of a girlfriend I had in my 20's who enjoyed anal. I turned her around and pulled out the butt plug, and when I slowly inserted my dick in her ass I heard her moan. After a few minutes in doggy anal, I flipped her around and started to use my vibrator on her clit, and I fucked her ass at the same time. I finished all over her face and she smiled when I finished. Like a true porn star!
[/QUOTE]Kirsia, clean out your inbox.
I've now almost completed 3 trips to Thailand for almost 1 month each this year. March, July and November (3 days left), and feel like I have enough to bring some inputs here on when to go.
Soi 6 had the best quality in March and July. Now in November, especially late November and early December, more and more of the top girls leave with some interim paying boyfriend.
Gogo bars on the other hand are at a peak now in high season. I suppose high season means more high paying customers at those insane rates the gogo bars charge now.
Freelancers were at a peak in March. Maybe that's just because it is right after high season ended, so the interim boyfriends had just left them.
So when to go is a question of what you like.
High season: Nov. -Feb. Means more people around. Both men and women. Hotel prices also goes up. Rumor has it the winter means less rain and clouds, but this year I had more rain here in November than we had in July.
Mid season of March (going into 1st week of April) would perhaps be my choice. A mix of both.
Low season of July into first 10 days of August was ok, but I felt it was a bit quiet. Many girls I met in March had gone to Phuket instead because in Phuket, summer is more high season. But it also do mean less competition.
Overall I feel like right now it is way too many people here, although this weekend was special for the fireworks.
Many non Thai working girls also do their best in order to get men to visit their country for work. I wish Pattaya could be the place to go for girls from every Asean country, but that seems to be wishful thinking. Especially the Cambodians feel like they want to go home after what happened this summer.
[QUOTE=Pistons;3040126]Overall I feel like right now it is way too many people here, although this weekend was special for the fireworks.[/QUOTE]Good to keep in mind that every weekend a lot of folks from Bangkok go to Pattaya, hence the uptick in traffic.
[QUOTE=Pistons;3040126]
Overall I feel like right now it is way too many people here, although this weekend was special for the fireworks.[/QUOTE]Whether it be the international fireworks competition this week or NYE, fireworks make Beach Road nuts. Best to book your hotel right were you want to hobby for these nights. Same goes for some other nights like during the music festival and possibly Loy Krathong. I enjoy watching fireworks near Soi 6.
Way back in Oct. (27th or 28th).
Did lot of rounds of soi 6 but I do not recall. This is what happens when you do not FR on time.
However I do remember the experience (one of the best) with another TF freelancer. I had my eye on her every since I got TF membership few weeks before arriving in Thailand.
She had some great pics.
Did back and forth after landing and it was not connecting. Finally got her number. Asked her to do video call but she instead sent her video which showed the same girl.
I again was out drinking (next to my hotel). I asked her to come at the restaurant where I was. She came (had some message exchanges as she was not able to find the entrance) and was looking great. Age was what she said around 24-25, Except all her pics had her way way white I love darker shades so I was fine. Had beer, asked if she is in a hurry and she said no. They had a live band playing and stayed for few songs.
Did some flirting, hand holding complimenting her nose ring etc (English was great. No issues with communication and never used google translator).
Walked back to my hotel, gave her ID at reception, once in room started with kissing and slowly undressed her. She had one piece on. Tiny boobs and great ass and that eyes.
Moved to bed and I was excited and said something dirty in Hindi. I said BKL show me your pussy. I was just excited. I was surprised when she responded back in hindi saying "hey do not say that I understand what you just said" .
I was surprised and I said that I never meant it literally, she was fun and said all is well.
So we continued and great BJ, kissing, fucking in different positions and pounded her pretty well.
Now normally post deed it is shower, wear your clothes and say good byes. However I was curious as to how she knew hindi. So she said she has friends and told me that she loves Bollywood. Played some youtube song and sang. She also said she can dance for me which she fucking did.
Then next 30-45 minutes she shared her playlist and sang song after song and even was ok with me recording her singing. I suggested her some songs and she liked those.
I paid her extra 500 on top of 2000. She told me she is going to Indian club straight from my hotel and said I am welcome to join. Unfortunately I had plans with my other buddies so I said next time.
She is my go to girl for next time. I will surely see her whenever I am in Thailand next time.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3040045]Thanks, if not much has changed it will still be great. What's GC? I also see that Thai Friendly is good, do you have any experience with that app?[/QUOTE]GC is a gentlemen's club.
Just got back from a few days in Pattaya and in my monging career (it's not massive compared with many on here) I've never gone to Pattaya and not taken a BG or beach road / Go go girl until now..
TF is just so easy, full of FL girls (definitely in Pattaya and BKK). So easy.
Was even sat in a bar at 1:20 am watching the football, pissed after having a lovely 21 yo in the afternoon and a fit as 30 yo early evening, thinking that will do for today.
I did not fancy anything in the Treetown bar I was in so jumped on TF and within 35 mins she arrived, 1. 5 K and she even got a round in, was MP princess who'd finished at 1 am.
Best of all I managed to smash 4 of the 7-8 girls I'd wanked over in the previous couple of months before my trip for (all ST) 1.5 K with one at 2 K.
I like all the different options available but TF worked well for me on this short visit, I was only in Pattaya for 2 days this time so did not have time to waste.
[QUOTE=Big77;3040633]GC is a gentlemen's club.[/QUOTE]Ah, thanks.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3040933]Just got back from a few days in Pattaya and in my monging career (it's not massive compared with many on here) I've never gone to Pattaya and not taken a BG or beach road / Go go girl until now..
TF is just so easy, full of FL girls (definitely in Pattaya and BKK). So easy.[/QUOTE]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041067]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?[/QUOTE]Setting your profile on Pattaya does not mean shit. No matter what you put in your profile they are going to ask shit that is already plain to see there.
This morning they installed those hard rubber speed bumps on Soi Pothole. No idea why. I have never seen anyone even attempting to speed down that soi.
Heading over to eat ice cream in Jomtien last night with a 20 year old massage chick I met yesterday. (She paid.) On Soi Khopai there was a Thai dude about to jump off a building. When I told him to jump, he ran back inside. Maybe he was on drugs or something. Today the massage girl said we should not talk anymore because of the age difference. She said she has never had a boyfriend and I am the same age as her dad.
Yesterday she overslept and missed work. She said she has to pay the shop 500 baht for that. Missing work on a weekday is only a 300 baht fine.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041067]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?[/QUOTE]In August I landed in Bangkok. Went to Pattaya. Set my location. Paid my membership and got flooded by messages. Maybe 150 in 1 day. When I left I cancelled it. Definitely worth it.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041067]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?[/QUOTE]It will happen once you're there. You are an walking ATM, make no sense to be contacted if you're not there, so they can access the funds, waste of time. The same goes for you, why make contact with a ghost? Today is there, tomorrow may disappear.
Look, but don't touch, until you're on location.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041067]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?[/QUOTE]If you contact ladies when you are not in Pattaya, you are wasting their time.
TF is for ladies who need a customer right now. Not next month.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041153]Heading over to eat ice cream in Jomtien last night with a 20 year old massage chick I met yesterday. (She paid.) On Soi Khopai there was a Thai dude about to jump off a building. When I told him to jump, he ran back inside. Maybe he was on drugs or something.[/QUOTE]Pattaya Man High on Meth Causes Apartment Fire and Balcony Standoff After Breakup Dispute.
A 32-year-old Pattaya man, identified only as "Mr. V", caused a major disturbance on Monday after a heated argument with his girlfriend escalated into destructive behavior inside his fourth-floor apartment in Soi Korpai.
Police from Pattaya City Police Station, led by Police Lieutenant Colonel Sonthaya Khonthap, responded to reports of a resident acting aggressively, damaging property, and attempting to start a fire inside his room. Upon arrival, officers and bystanders found the man shouting incoherently and holding a knife while refusing to come out.
According to police, the man had locked himself inside, attempted to ignite parts of the room, and threw a gas canister from the balcony when it failed to burn. Officers forced entry out of concern for public safety, at which point the man threatened police and climbed out onto the fourth-floor balcony.
He then moved along exterior ledges before entering a nearby motorcycle parts shop on the same floor, where he damaged several items. Officers were eventually able to subdue and arrest him safely.
The suspect had minor injuries from broken glass and told police he had been overwhelmed by stress following a breakup argument earlier in the day. He admitted to taking methamphetamine before the incident, which contributed to his erratic behavior.
A motorcycle taxi driver, Mr. Kiatisak Yodsanga, who assisted police and recorded portions of the incident, said the man started acting violently in the evening, alarming residents and prompting multiple emergency calls.
Witnesses also reported seeing the man moving along balconies, leading police to use spotlights to keep him visible and bring him back inside, where he was finally detained.
The suspect received first aid and was taken to a hospital for evaluation and drug testing. Pattaya police have charged him with possession of a Category 1 narcotic, with additional charges pending further investigation into property damage and public endangerment.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3040933]Just got back from a few days in Pattaya and in my monging career (it's not massive compared with many on here) I've never gone to Pattaya and not taken a BG or beach road / Go go girl until now..
TF is just so easy, full of FL girls (definitely in Pattaya and BKK). So easy.
Was even sat in a bar at 1:20 am watching the football, pissed after having a lovely 21 yo in the afternoon and a fit as 30 yo early evening, thinking that will do for today.
I did not fancy anything in the Treetown bar I was in so jumped on TF and within 35 mins she arrived, 1. 5 K and she even got a round in, was MP princess who'd finished at 1 am.
Best of all I managed to smash 4 of the 7-8 girls I'd wanked over in the previous couple of months before my trip for (all ST) 1.5 K with one at 2 K.
I like all the different options available but TF worked well for me on this short visit, I was only in Pattaya for 2 days this time so did not have time to waste.[/QUOTE]Thank you,
Can you (or any other BM who has used TF) please write couple of simple sentences: how to set up, pay, communicate with girls, cancel when you leave and any other key things.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041153]Today the massage girl said we should not talk anymore because of the age difference. She said she has never had a boyfriend and I am the same age as her dad.[/QUOTE]You must be young man. I get compared to their dead grandfathers. I'm usually older.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041067]I signed up for TF and started a free profile, set my location to Pattaya to see what happens (going there in late Jan / early Feb). No messages or interest at all. Does it only work once you pay the membership?[/QUOTE]You can set your location to Pattaya, but if you are not really there your profile will not be visible for the ladies.
Because most of them have specified a limited search area of, for example, 5 or 10 km around their location.
Just like you can do, once you're there. Although I'm not sure if that's possible with a free profile.
[QUOTE=Lars123;3041175]In August I landed in Bangkok. Went to Pattaya. Set my location. Paid my membership and got flooded by messages. Maybe 150 in 1 day. When I left I cancelled it. Definitely worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Sounds like it doesn't show me as physically in Pattaya just b / c I set my profile location there, that explains it. 150 in a day sounds almost overwhelming. Do you look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Were most of them legit or was it a catfish fest?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041149]Setting your profile on Pattaya does not mean shit. No matter what you put in your profile they are going to ask shit that is already plain to see there.[/QUOTE]Got it, they aren't like Tinder with the "international roaming plan. " At least not on the free plan. And the girl's are probably onto the drive-by types anyway. I'll pony up for the paid plan about a week before I go.
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3041189]It will happen once you're there. You are an walking ATM, make no sense to be contacted if you're not there, so they can access the funds, waste of time. The same goes for you, why make contact with a ghost? Today is there, tomorrow may disappear.
Look, but don't touch, until you're on location.[/QUOTE]Good advice, thank you.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3041199]If you contact ladies when you are not in Pattaya, you are wasting their time.
TF is for ladies who need a customer right now. Not next month.[/QUOTE]Got it. I was thinking to screen a few top candidates and set things up in advance for longer visits (like 24-48 hours) but t sounds like it's mainly for spur of the moment stuff.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3041239]You can set your location to Pattaya, but if you are not really there your profile will not be visible for the ladies.
Because most of them have specified a limited search area of, for example, 5 or 10 km around their location.
Just like you can do, once you're there. Although I'm not sure if that's possible with a free profile.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you and everyone else for the advice, I'll just sign up once I hit the ground in BKK. Besides TF, what is next on the list? I like young and good looking, last time as a noob I spent a bunch of time on WS and I did enjoy the go-go atmosphere, but the prices were high and half the time I ended up picking a straggler on beach road. I need to branch out this time.
[QUOTE=Questner;3041224]Thank you,
Can you (or any other BM who has used TF) please write couple of simple sentences: how to set up, pay, communicate with girls, cancel when you leave and any other key things.[/QUOTE]It is dead easy.
Get app, register, I pay annual subscription (worth it for me), upload genuine photos of yourself, I made a quick profile (it's not that important).
I set the location to Pattaya or BKK depending where I want to meet, when I'm in my home country.
Then I 'like' the birds I want to smash (and it's a good wank bank) so when I'm there I don't have to trawl through 100's of them.
Then when I'm there, I keep it short and sweet by direct messaging my favourite 8-10 with 'Are you FL, want to meet?' Obviously I don't like the ones who are looking for a husband / long term relationship. I also look to see if they're online or not as often if they are online they'll reply straight away and you'll be smashing them within the hour.
The rest just flows into getting their WhatsApp, discussing what they want / do not want, pricing etc and the rest is history as they say. I like to talk off the app ASAP.
As everyone knows they are not into bullshit / time wasting, let's meet next week / month is pointless so I never plan more than the next days action on TF.
And if in Pattaya or BKK and it does not pan out then just go with one of 5,000 plus other options available.
That's how it works for me, I'm sure other members have a different set up with TF but that's mine and it works well for me, I love smashing a bird or 5 out my wank bank.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041247]Thanks to you and everyone else for the advice, I'll just sign up once I hit the ground in BKK. Besides TF, what is next on the list? I like young and good looking, last time as a noob I spent a bunch of time on WS and I did enjoy the go-go atmosphere, but the prices were high and half the time I ended up picking a straggler on beach road. I need to branch out this time.[/QUOTE]You need to branch out and hit Soi 6 its instant action there. See what you like then 1 drink and straight upstairs on-site No BS. Also check out LK Metro tons of girly bars, maybe add a few gentleman's clubs, Heaven Above or MC Club for some earlier in the afternoon action.
At Thai Style: thank you, so it's through the app. Likely you've set up your profile directly and not through FBook. Have you received replies from paying members or free members? It has been reported that free member can only use 1 message in 10 minutes. This way you have to really move them to a side chat ASAP. Have they suggested other messenger then Whatsapp?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3041226]You must be young man. I get compared to their dead grandfathers. I'm usually older.[/QUOTE]I am their grandpa!
[QUOTE=EdSetra;3038555]Google AI quoting a Facebook post on 15 October is out of date. My eyes saw no SuperRich last week (where it used to be located at the entrance to the ARL). If there is one elsewhere in the airport I'll use the salt.[/QUOTE]It's still in the same spot it's been for years, in the basement just past the tube station.
But all the exchanges in that spot in the basement have the same rates. Which are multiple baths higher than any other exchanges in the airport.
[QUOTE=Elario;3041381]You need to branch out and hit Soi 6 its instant action there. See what you like then 1 drink and straight upstairs on-site No BS. [/QUOTE]Instant action at double the price. Went to Soi 6 last night and everybody wanted 2000 + 400 for the room. They would not negotiate. One girl stormed off and said well you go to Coconut Bar. What is up with that hierarchy shit? All of y'all are selling pussy. You are no better than them.
I have a buddy in town and we also hit the discos at 1 am. Every chick wanted 3000. I cut bait at 4:30 am and went to a massage chick's room. This is the first time she let me go there saying that her roommates would be back soon. When I got there I was sitting outside a while waiting for her to come. Some chick came up on Bolt motorbike taxi and I thought to myself that I should get her info. Then I said nahh it is probably her damn roommate. She finally came down to get me and we went up. Surprise! The chick was her roommate. My girl sleeps on the floor, but I got in the bed with the roommate.
Some guy video called and she gave him the third degree. She was telling him she has a problem and needs money. I guess he was laughing because she told him that she was serious and kept asking why she is smiling. These chicks know who they can get away with that kind of shit with. That has never happened to me. I would have hung up and blocked her. I was telling her not to be talking to that man that way.
I got on the floor with my girl and pulled my dick out. She covered it up saying we can not do that with her roommate there. I said she has seen someone getting their dick sucked before. No big deal. She refused though so I finally said we will go to my room then.
For some reason this chick refuses to believe I have a girlfriend, saying that she never sees her things there. I said she has her own damn house. I fell asleep at 6:30 am and woke up at 9:30 am. Did another session and went to take a shower. I came back and saw long black hair all over the room. I got the dustbuster out. I told her something was going to have to give. I need to only mess with bald chicks because my girl is always finding hair. I spent the night at her house the other night and saw a hair in her bed. I said ah ha, what is this black hair doing here? She looked at it and said that is purple; that is mine. I said well it looks black to me.
[QUOTE=Questner;3041406]At Thai Style: thank you, so it's through the app. Likely you've set up your profile directly and not through FBook. Have you received replies from paying members or free members? It has been reported that free member can only use 1 message in 10 minutes. This way you have to really move them to a side chat ASAP. Have they suggested other messenger then Whatsapp?[/QUOTE]It is a stand alone app for me, nothing to do with FB, I don't even use FB and if I did I certainly would not want it linked to my activity on TF.
I found the free version useless, a total waste of time, it is not that much (I think around 100 usd for 12 months) but you would have to check.
I've no idea if the girls I deal with through it are on the free version, I would guess not as they also have the 1 messages every 10 minutes or whatever it is, which would certainly be useless for them.
The reason I go onto WhatsApp ASAP is I find it quicker and can just then deal directly with the girl and of course it is more private. Every girl I have dealt with has WhatsApp these days, I do not even bother with Line anymore, although I have negotiated through the app before with no issues.
As I said for me, It is more than worth the money, I saved the annual cost in a few days by not paying bar fines and lady drinks.
I don't just use TF, sometimes I like a go go, bar, street princess in a ST hotel or a nasty MP mattress, good to mix and match.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041242]Thanks! Sounds like it doesn't show me as physically in Pattaya just b / c I set my profile location there, that explains it. 150 in a day sounds almost overwhelming. Do you look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Were most of them legit or was it a catfish fest?[/QUOTE]I look better than Brad Pitt in Fight club)) No, but we are in the same age range.
Sadly enough in my 3 weeks in Pattaya I was sick from food poisoning for 10 days (Aeromas bacteria) so I was a little weak. I definitely had 40 contacts that were worth inviting, but I only was in real contact with 5 girls. All beautiful, correct. And I even had a threesome with 2 girls who were advertising together. TF is taking over the scene. The bargirls and agogo girls are exploited. They have to go work every day for 10 hours, get drunk of deadly bored and when they are sick or hung over, have to pay a 3000 baht fine. They never get an hourly wage. Only get paid after one month, and get fined along the way. The only money a girl can make is by going short time or longtime. I know some girls who make more than 100 000 in an agogo / bar / gc, but they go out with customers practically every day. TF saves you the barfine. And when you have bad luck, it's only 1500-2000 lost. You can loose more on buying drinks alone.
I always combine my trip with visits to bars (Treetown, Chayapoon, soi 6.) Agogo's (Windmill, Kink, Lighthouse, .) GC's (should try!) and massage parlours (when I see a nice girl).
The best place to pick uip girls are clubs like Ibar, Isomnia, Flexx, Myst, Republic and, of course Juju club.
But this my personal opinion of course, all is in the eye of the "beerholder".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041476]Instant action at double the price. Went to Soi 6 last night and everybody wanted 2000 + 400 for the room. They would not negotiate. One girl stormed off and said well you go to Coconut Bar. What is up with that hierarchy shit? All of y'all are selling pussy. .[/QUOTE]Can you define or explain what you mean with "everybody"?
Are you saying average lookers stod firm on 2000?
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3041559]Can you define or explain what you mean with "everybody"?
Are you saying average lookers stod firm on 2000?[/QUOTE]Half of soi6 bar are now under the same banner. What do you expect? They are recruting all the cutest girls, they impose them a minimum LD sell before BF and taking a cut on the amount earned by the girls. The price are sky rocketing since this pattern started. 30 years of inflation had no effect on price in pattaya but suddently the last 10 years are pushing price up like x2, x3 and even x4 in some place.
When the pimp have 1st tier world income standard the girls have to bring more money in the bank.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3041565]Half of soi6 bar are now under the same banner. What do you expect? They are recruting all the cutest girls, they impose them a minimum LD sell before BF and taking a cut on the amount earned by the girls. The price are sky rocketing since this pattern started. 30 years of inflation had no effect on price in pattaya but suddently the last 10 years are pushing price up like x2, x3 and even x4 in some place.
When the pimp have 1st tier world income standard the girls have to bring more money in the bank.[/QUOTE]As these prices go up, it makes the soapy massage places appear to have decent value. I did two sessions at Honey 1 during the summer for girls at 2500 be and they were great plus way better rooms than the crappy ones at Soi 6. Same thing at Heaven Above which I found to be way better too.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3041570]As these prices go up, it makes the soapy massage places appear to have decent value. I did two sessions at Honey 1 during the summer for girls at 2500 be and they were great plus way better rooms than the crappy ones at Soi 6. Same thing at Heaven Above which I found to be way better too.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't even bother setting foot in Soi 6 these days, the novelty wore off years ago.
Some of the rooms upstairs are pretty nasty, yes I've used worse in Manila but for me there are so many better options in Pattaya to spend your time and money on along with the constant 'you buy me drink' hassle, I just don't have the patience for that shit these days as I know what better options are very close.
Again, that's just me, I'm sure some lads love it and that's the great thing about Pattaya, it really does have it all.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3041559]Can you define or explain what you mean with "everybody"?
Are you saying average lookers stod firm on 2000?[/QUOTE]Everybody that I asked. Whether they were average, above average, or below average is relative.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3041570]As these prices go up, it makes the soapy massage places appear to have decent value. I did two sessions at Honey 1 during the summer for girls at 2500 be and they were great plus way better rooms than the crappy ones at Soi 6. Same thing at Heaven Above which I found to be way better too.[/QUOTE]My buddy went to the soapy and said it was $80. Must have been 2500 baht. He said the girl told him she gets to keep 40% of that, which is 1000 baht. Pretty much lines up with giving Thai Friendly chicks 1000 baht.
We also went to 007. Did not mind buying drinks for the chicks with all the molesting going on, but they said our dicks were too big so they would only do blow jobs. Another friend recommended the spot. He said that he gets the same girl every time and she never disappoints. Maybe from now on I should lead with feel my dick to make sure it is not too big for you, before I go to buying drinks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041476]Instant action at double the price. Went to Soi 6 last night and everybody wanted 2000 + 400 for the room. They would not negotiate. One girl stormed off and said well you go to Coconut Bar. What is up with that hierarchy shit? All of y'all are selling pussy. You are no better than them.[/QUOTE]Double the price of what and where? It's been months many people have been saying the girls don't want to go lower than their 2 K rate but for some reasons some others were saying they get their girls there for 1000 baht. By the way many places are charging 500 for the rooms now (there are at least these bars: Redpoint, Panda, LoveMissile).
Panda is the worst as they also charge the highest price on ladydrinks in the soi (250).
It's a day before I fly out and my favourite messages me to say that she will be busy as her ex-boyfriend / sponsor is back and wants to renew the relationship. I can guess where this is going but she's going to try for that one last chance as she is way too old and has not been able to keep a sponsor. He's the third as far as I know, maybe there were others in the past.
Meantime I will have to make do with the girl that will drive up to Pattaya whenever I say so to spend the day with me for cheap, and of course TF girls, massage girls and bar visits.
Hello fellow members,
I'm new to Pattaya and planning a visit soon.
I need a beginner's guide to Pattaya recommendations for hotels, clubs, pickup points, or any reliable online sites.
I'm looking for 1 or 2 sessions and would like to know the usual cost for a night.
I prefer younger, non-regular contacts and would like to avoid street WGs.
Requesting guidance and suggestions from the senior members.
Thanks!
I had a little look on X in Pattaya.
Seems like prices on the thai market has not been affected at all by " inflation".
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3041711]I had a little look on X in Pattaya.
Seems like prices on the thai market has not been affected at all by " inflation".[/QUOTE]It look like bait currently posted on fiwfans website. Usually the girls arent even close to look like on the picture. If you are lucky it the same girls but the pisctures was taken 15 years ago and the girls have now 15 yreas + of mileage from gogo and massage shop.
[QUOTE=SexLover66;3041701]I'm new to Pattaya and planning a visit soon. I need a beginner's guide to Pattaya. Requesting guidance and suggestions from the senior members.[/QUOTE]Go back in this forum 25 pages and read forward. Actually, 50 pages would be better.
Read the reports about: Walking Street, Soi 6, and Soi LK Metro.
You will learn how the go-go bars on Walking Street operate.
You will learn how to go with a Soi 6 girl to one of the rooms that are above the bars on that street.
And you will learn how what's available on Soi LK Metro, both in terms of girls in the go-go bars, and freelancers.
You won't be an expert. But you'll understand enough to do OK on your first trip.
P.S. If 11 Bravo chimes in, do whatever he tells you to do.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3041711]I had a little look on X in Pattaya.
Seems like prices on the thai market has not been affected at all by " inflation".[/QUOTE]These are ladies looking to hook a Thai man.
[QUOTE=SexLover66;3041701]Hello fellow members,
I'm new to Pattaya and planning a visit soon.
I need a beginner's guide to Pattaya recommendations for hotels, clubs, pickup points, or any reliable online sites.
I'm looking for 1 or 2 sessions and would like to know the usual cost for a night.
I prefer younger, non-regular contacts and would like to avoid street WGs.
Requesting guidance and suggestions from the senior members.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Google pattaya addict, its on first page for me. Install reddit and subscribe to sub related to pattaya. This board post of the last 1-2 years (don't go before covid crisis you will hurt yourself with fake expectation from the past).
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3041565]Half of soi6 bar are now under the same banner. What do you expect? They are recruting all the cutest girls, they impose them a minimum LD sell before BF and taking a cut on the amount earned by the girls. The price are sky rocketing since this pattern started. 30 years of inflation had no effect on price in pattaya but suddently the last 10 years are pushing price up like x2, x3 and even x4 in some place.
When the pimp have 1st tier world income standard the girls have to bring more money in the bank.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 has more "banners" now than ever before. You have at least 7 different groups that own 3+ bars each. Each has its own rules regarding drinks and BF.
Back a few years ago when it was a single "banner" things were a lot more affordable. Competition wasn't healthy in this case because now everyone fights to have the most / best girls and they do it by increasing salaries and commissions, which inevitably results in higher prices for us the customers.
[QUOTE=SexLover66;3041701]Hello fellow members,
I'm new to Pattaya and planning a visit soon.
I need a beginner's guide to Pattaya recommendations for hotels, clubs, pickup points, or any reliable online sites.
I'm looking for 1 or 2 sessions and would like to know the usual cost for a night.
I prefer younger, non-regular contacts and would like to avoid street WGs.
Requesting guidance and suggestions from the senior members.[/QUOTE]So many options but I say get a hotel near beach road and pay 2000 baht for the streetwalkers there even tho you say you like to avoid. Sometimes there are good finds. And its a lot cheaper than the clubs. All night you will pay 5000 baht. Read the forum, man.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3041711]I had a little look on X in Pattaya.
Seems like prices on the thai market has not been affected at all by " inflation".[/QUOTE]How to find such twitter / Instagram handles?
[QUOTE=JamesBondAjay;3041957]How to find such twitter / Instagram handles?[/QUOTE]The example was some ads from Thai ladies looking for Thai men.
Note that in Pattaya, Thai women often pay for Thai men, so you have to know the context.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3041628]Double the price of what and where? It's been months many people have been saying the girls don't want to go lower than their 2 K rate but for some reasons some others were saying they get their girls there for 1000 baht. By the way many places are charging 500 for the rooms now (there are at least these bars: Redpoint, Panda, LoveMissile).
Panda is the worst as they also charge the highest price on ladydrinks in the soi (250).[/QUOTE]How can an individual complain about 2,000 on Soi 6. Hahaha.
100 Baht increase on Rooms sound s Nasty. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3042069]How can an individual complain about 2,000 on Soi 6. Hahaha.
100 Baht increase on Rooms sound s Nasty. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]If you laugh about this, you haven't understood the overall problem. It's not about a trivial 100 baht increase for the room. That increase is just the tip of the iceberg.
Prices are going up everywhere at the same time: drinks suddenly cost 100 baht more, rooms as well. When it comes to the women, we're often talking about an extra 500–1,000 baht now. At the same time, many bars are introducing minimum drink requirements, raising bar fines, and significantly increasing buy-out fees.
On top of that, there's another issue: you can't even be sure anymore that it will actually lead to "boom-boom" — not even after you've already spent a lot of money on drinks.
Taken together, this is no longer a minor annoyance but a broad-based cost explosion. Anyone who reduces this to a single price increase or laughs it off is completely missing the real trend.
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3042092]If you laugh about this, you haven't understood the overall problem. It's not about a trivial 100 baht increase for the room. That increase is just the tip of the iceberg.
Prices are going up everywhere at the same time: drinks suddenly cost 100 baht more, rooms as well. When it comes to the women, we're often talking about an extra 5001,000 baht now. At the same time, many bars are introducing minimum drink requirements, raising bar fines, and significantly increasing buy-out fees.
On top of that, there's another issue: you can't even be sure anymore that it will actually lead to "boom-boom" not even after you've already spent a lot of money on drinks.
Taken together, this is no longer a minor annoyance but a broad-based cost explosion. Anyone who reduces this to a single price increase or laughs it off is completely missing the real trend.[/QUOTE]Yes, life will become more expensive all the time. Unavoidable. No use crying, keep smiling!
Had a great time in November and earlier this year in pattaya but I agree on this one, the nightwish bars all seem to have that rule now where you need to buy a certain number of ld's before you can take a girl upstairs.
The st price itself didn't really bother me, around 2 k felt fair for the girls I picked, but I get why some of the guys I hang with are annoyed when they can pull similar quality much cheaper via gc or tf guess it's just the new reality there, the drinks rule is the annoying part if you just want to bang.
On the plus side everyone has line anyway so you can always add them and have them come straight to your hotel 😄.
[QUOTE=Downandup;3041665]It's a day before I fly out and my favourite messages me to say that she will be busy as her ex-boyfriend / sponsor is back and wants to renew the relationship. I can guess where this is going but she's going to try for that one last chance as she is way too old and has not been able to keep a sponsor. He's the third as far as I know, maybe there were others in the past.
Meantime I will have to make do with the girl that will drive up to Pattaya whenever I say so to spend the day with me for cheap, and of course TF girls, massage girls and bar visits.[/QUOTE]Enjoy. And who knows, your favorite might sneak in for a quick afternoon rendezvous!
If anyone can locate a link or pdf for the recent Soi 6 data on prices, team mix etc, please post it.
[QUOTE=Kontiki;3042189]Had a great time in November and earlier this year in pattaya but I agree on this one, the nightwish bars all seem to have that rule now where you need to buy a certain number of ld's before you can take a girl upstairs.
The st price itself didn't really bother me, around 2 k felt fair for the girls I picked, but I get why some of the guys I hang with are annoyed when they can pull similar quality much cheaper via gc or tf guess it's just the new reality there, the drinks rule is the annoying part if you just want to bang.
On the plus side everyone has line anyway so you can always add them and have them come straight to your hotel 😄.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to pattaya yet. But visiting in a week. From what I can see online is the easy way. But bars / clubs are a good fallback IMHO.
[QUOTE=Kontiki;3042189]Had a great time in November and earlier this year in pattaya but I agree on this one, the nightwish bars all seem to have that rule now where you need to buy a certain number of ld's before you can take a girl upstairs.
The st price itself didn't really bother me, around 2 k felt fair for the girls I picked, but I get why some of the guys I hang with are annoyed when they can pull similar quality much cheaper via gc or tf guess it's just the new reality there, the drinks rule is the annoying part if you just want to bang.
On the plus side everyone has line anyway so you can always add them and have them come straight to your hotel 😄.[/QUOTE]I guess they have rent, and electricity bills to pay...
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042237]I haven't been to pattaya yet. But visiting in a week. From what I can see online is the easy way. But bars / clubs are a good fallback IMHO.[/QUOTE]Bars are the easy way, as long as you don't go to Soi 6 or Walking Street.
Go to Soi Chaiyapoon. If you can't find a lady there, you have bigger problems than Pattaya can fix.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3041512]It is a stand alone app for me, nothing to do with FB, I don't even use FB and if I did I certainly would not want it linked to my activity on TF.
I found the free version useless, a total waste of time, it is not that much (I think around 100 usd for 12 months) but you would have to check.
I've no idea if the girls I deal with through it are on the free version, I would guess not as they also have the 1 messages every 10 minutes or whatever it is, which would certainly be useless for them.
The reason I go onto WhatsApp ASAP is I find it quicker and can just then deal directly with the girl and of course it is more private. Every girl I have dealt with has WhatsApp these days, I do not even bother with Line anymore, although I have negotiated through the app before with no issues.
As I said for me, It is more than worth the money, I saved the annual cost in a few days by not paying bar fines and lady drinks.
I don't just use TF, sometimes I like a go go, bar, street princess in a ST hotel or a nasty MP mattress, good to mix and match.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Grreat info. Exactly what I was looking for.
What is the range the girls are asking for ST? I get a range from 1500 to 3000 1 HR to 3 hrs. But seems like 2 k is the normal.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3041243]Got it, they aren't like Tinder with the "international roaming plan. " At least not on the free plan. And the girls are probably onto the drive-by types anyway. I'll pony up for the paid plan about a week before I go.[/QUOTE]If you pay for even a month and get their premium subscription, you can set the place in the search settings. This will be a global setting across the app. So all the swipes and searches from then on will list around that new area set.
Not sure if it is reflected for the girls who search nearby. But I did get a fair number of messages without me initiating them (or even looking at the profiles).
I haven't tried searching Pattaya, but in Bangkok, I search and send a message, and it works if you are close to the arrival date, less than a week.
God, that app is buggy as hell.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042250]
God, that app is buggy as hell.[/QUOTE]What bugs?
[QUOTE=Kontiki;3042189]On the plus side everyone has line anyway so you can always add them and have them come straight to your hotel 😄.[/QUOTE]Remember they give you their line contact in the hope that they're going to make you come and see them at their place of work. When it comes to their free time, they prefer spending it doing the things they like (clubbing in disco, spending time with their friends, resting in their room) instead of giving you a favor by coming to see you in the middle of the night so that you could save a few bucks.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3042285]Remember they give you their line contact in the hope that they're going to make you come and see them at their place of work. When it comes to their free time, they prefer spending it doing the things they like (clubbing in disco, spending time with their friends, resting in their room) instead of giving you a favor by coming to see you in the middle of the night so that you could save a few bucks.[/QUOTE]It depends on the girl and the situation. Yesterday and today I spent trying to convince a go go girl to come to her club tonight so I could see her. In the end, she didn't want to work at go go club, she ended up with me in my hotel for 2 hours.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042249]Grreat info. Exactly what I was looking for.
What is the range the girls are asking for ST? I get a range from 1500 to 3000 1 HR to 3 hrs. But seems like 2 k is the normal.[/QUOTE]All the girls I've had through TF in Pattaya have been 1. 5 K or 2 k ST plus the odd 100 be for a grab, I'm not interested in LT but I often ask out of curiosity and get quoted between 2.5 K and 4 K depending on time / girl etc, I've also had on more than one occasion the 'up to you answer' which I've found they use sometimes when they've sussed out you're respectful (which I am) and not a shit person.
In Bangkok it seems to be 2.5 K to 3 K ST, that's just in my experience.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3042375]It depends on the girl and the situation. Yesterday and today I spent trying to convince a go go girl to come to her club tonight so I could see her. In the end, she didn't want to work at go go club, she ended up with me in my hotel for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]It was probably her day off, because I think all gogo I met in pattaya was asking to meet them at the bar for the BF on working days. I doubt they can't call sick they go with a dude to escape the BF without risking to have problem at their job.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3042240]Bars are the easy way, as long as you don't go to Soi 6 or Walking Street.
Go to Soi Chaiyapoon. If you can't find a lady there, you have bigger problems than Pattaya can fix.[/QUOTE]Lots of Ladyboys on Soi Chiyapoon. Delirious Whisky Lounge is a ladyboy bar and has the best selection of scotch in Pattaya. Maggie Mays has Guinness on tap.
Some places I frequented last time that I recommend:
Soi Boomerang: Heaven Above had a lot of hot girls. Octopussy had a couple of hot girls.
Soi Honey: I really like the Hunny Lounge, tell Graham that Oz sent you. Go to Lips Lounge and you will get you dick sucked for a ladydrink.
LK Metro: I like LK Angels a lot more than Kink. Mint is usually slow, but the owner is a nice guy so it is at least a nice place to chill.
Soi Bongkot 5: Babylon is a fairly wild place.
Install Line on your phone now. I am in Line groups for Hunny Lounge, Babylon, Camel Toe & Free Willy, as well as the monthly bar promo group.
Go on some of the bar crawls particularly when you first arrive.
These are the bars I went to a lot and really enjoyed. I went to a number of other bars as well, but these were my regular stops.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3042240]Bars are the easy way, as long as you don't go to Soi 6 or Walking Street.
Go to Soi Chaiyapoon. If you can't find a lady there, you have bigger problems than Pattaya can fix.[/QUOTE]I've walk Chaiyapoon on the way to my Hotel.
As hard as it is to find a Hottie on Soi 6. It's impossible to find one on Chaiyapoon.
[QUOTE=SexLover66;3041701]Hello fellow members,
I'm new to Pattaya and planning a visit soon.
I need a beginner's guide to Pattaya recommendations for hotels, clubs, pickup points, or any reliable online sites.
I'm looking for 1 or 2 sessions and would like to know the usual cost for a night.
I prefer younger, non-regular contacts and would like to avoid street WGs.
Requesting guidance and suggestions from the senior members.
Thanks![/QUOTE][URL]gentsclubs.com[/URL] is one resource. I recommend going on a bar crawl early on. I prefer the slower pace away from Walking Street and Soi 6 and prefer to get a hotel or guest house near Soi Diana / Soi Buakhao. Last time I was there, LT started at 3000 baht + bar fine, ST started at 1000 baht + bar fine.
[QUOTE=Questner;3042223]If anyone can locate a link or pdf for the recent Soi 6 data on prices, team mix etc, please post it.[/QUOTE]500-3,000 depending. Team MiX- what's that?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3042389]It was probably her day off, because I think all gogo I met in pattaya was asking to meet them at the bar for the BF on working days. I doubt they can't call sick they go with a dude to escape the BF without risking to have problem at their job.[/QUOTE]Yes, which is a counter example to what Paula99 suggests as their general desires for their time off work.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3042403]500-3,000 depending. Team MiX- what's that?[/QUOTE]How many girls work at a bar? How many of them don't go with clients? How many of them are ladyboys? Etc. Its simple, the more working girls are the more chances to fancy any of them.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042249]Grreat info. Exactly what I was looking for.
What is the range the girls are asking for ST? I get a range from 1500 to 3000 1 HR to 3 hrs. But seems like 2 k is the normal.[/QUOTE]Standard price for a young cute should be 1500.
Less for older women. But if you want to be generous then up to you. But no reason paying 2000 for 30+.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3042401]I've walk Chaiyapoon on the way to my Hotel.
As hard as it is to find a Hottie on Soi 6. It's impossible to find one on Chaiyapoon.[/QUOTE]I walked 25 more than half a dozen times in the past 2 months. I was looking for a girl I thought was decent on a Facebook page of one of the bars. I didn't see a single girl I liked. Caveat - none of my walk throughs were after 7 pm. Maybe some Soi 25 fans will say it's way better after 7 pm.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3042375]It depends on the girl and the situation. Yesterday and today I spent trying to convince a go go girl to come to her club tonight so I could see her. In the end, she didn't want to work at go go club, she ended up with me in my hotel for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]I was talking about soi 6 bargirls, they've got a different mentality than gogo girls because there schedule is different.
These girls have only 3 days off on a 1 month contract, they need to be at work much earlier and are often tired when they leave their work late at night.
But of course it's going to depends on the girl and the situation, if you can catch her when she needs cash urgently, or if she is one of these girls with very customers the outcome will not be the same.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3042468]Standard price for a young cute should be 1500.
Less for older women. But if you want to be generous then up to you. But no reason paying 2000 for 30+.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Thats exactly what I wanted to know. Will keep it around $1500 then. Unless the she is extremely hot, I prefer to choose between 20-25.
Yes 1500 it's fair price. But it depends if you take extra or not! In Pattaya, I always like to fuck bareback so usually I pay between 2000 till 3000.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042516]Thank you.
Thats exactly what I wanted to know. Will keep it around $1500 then. Unless the she is extremely hot, I prefer to choose between 20-25.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3042268]What bugs?[/QUOTE]In the swipe section, you choose the heart to see who likes you. It will there on filter only liked no matter which screen you are. At one point, I decided to move to the web. It's even worse. Now I learnt how to get around it. Every time whe you click on that, you need to go to the browse tab and untick that restriction.
A few times, it's double-posted my responses.
The swipe section often do vertical scroll that will sure annoy if you wanted to see more photos.
Beyond those bugs, the app itself is not well thought out. There is no way you can search for people. You messaged.
Swipe can have a few lines of profiles. I always scroll down to see what they wrote.
On the web, the full-screen pictures do not have a carousel. One need to close each to see the images.
Even with all that with the amount of girls online and being able to get decent amount of contacts in BKK is a great win. I am sure I will be able to get what I wanted easily. Initially I thought I would need tinder. Now I think probably I will not need it.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3042385]All the girls I've had through TF in Pattaya have been 1. 5 K or 2 k ST plus the odd 100 be for a grab, I'm not interested in LT but I often ask out of curiosity and get quoted between 2.5 K and 4 K depending on time / girl etc, I've also had on more than one occasion the 'up to you answer' which I've found they use sometimes when they've sussed out you're respectful (which I am) and not a shit person.
In Bangkok it seems to be 2.5 K to 3 K ST, that's just in my experience.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That aligns with what I am hearing in Bangkok as well. Some try their luck with 3 k.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3042516]Thank you.
Thats exactly what I wanted to know. Will keep it around $1500 then. Unless the she is extremely hot, I prefer to choose between 20-25.[/QUOTE]Just remember that being extrmly hot doesn't always mean a good session. I picked up one FL outside LK metro once. She was around 40.1000 baht and she sucked me good. And a nice fuck followed.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3042477]I was talking about soi 6 bargirls, they've got a different mentality than gogo girls because there schedule is different.
These girls have only 3 days off on a 1 month contract, they need to be at work much earlier and are often tired when they leave their work late at night.
But of course it's going to depends on the girl and the situation, if you can catch her when she needs cash urgently, or if she is one of these girls with very customers the outcome will not be the same.[/QUOTE]Yes, very different situation because I was referencing a go go girl. I also didn't realize that I was responding in the Pattaya section, I was referencing a Bangkok Nana Plaza girl. To my knowledge, the Nana Plaza go go girls do not have monthly contracts. Some girls only work 2 or 3 nights a week and others work nearly every night.
Hi all,
I'll be traveling to Bangkok this week. Can I carry dapoxetine and a few other prescribed tablets from India without any issues if I have a valid prescription? Since these medicines are not narcotics, do I still need to declare them on the Thailand arrival form? Just looking for experiences from anyone who's done this before.
TIA.
Walking around Pattaya, it seems a lot less crowded than last year at this time. Usually, Soi Buakhow is jammed with cars, but I could cross the street no problem. Maybe High Season is late this year.
But there are a lot more bars now than a year ago.
[QUOTE=WanderingHuman;3042573]Can I carry dapoxetine and a few other prescribed tablets from India without any issues if I have a valid prescription?[/QUOTE]Dapoxetine (brand name Priligy) is a prescription-only medication used for the on-demand treatment of premature ejaculation (PE) in adult men aged 18 to 64 years. It is the first drug specifically developed and licensed for this condition. Alternatively, just pick a MILF.
You can bring in Tramadol, which is an artificial opioid, also available there. True opiates like codeine and Oxycontin require application to the Thai FDA in advance and one can only bring 30 days' supply. Other prescription medications should be issue-free. Check at permitfortraveler.fda.moph.go.th
I only experienced PE with a 'Goyang Madura' lady in Jakarta (see that channel here under 'Indonesia'). I wish there were a pill to speed up ejaculation to placate the moaning, 10-minute, Paisa Minnies in Colombia!
There is no medication specifically approved to speed up ejaculation. The available treatments are focused on delaying ejaculation, particularly for conditions like premature ejaculation (PE), where the goal is to increase the time to ejaculation. Medications such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), including dapoxetine (Priligy), paroxetine, sertraline, and others, are commonly used off-label to delay ejaculation and improve control and satisfaction during sexual activity. Dapoxetine is the only medication specifically licensed for the treatment of premature ejaculation in some countries, including the UK. Other options include topical desensitizing agents like EMLA cream, which contains lidocaine and prilocaine to reduce penile sensitivity, and phosphodiesterase-5 (PDE5) inhibitors like sildenafil (Viagra), which may also help delay ejaculation, particularly when combined with SSRIs.
No pharmacological treatments are approved or recommended to accelerate ejaculation, and the medical literature does not support the use of medications for this purpose. If someone experiences concerns about delayed ejaculation, treatment options such as testosterone, bupropion, or cyproheptadine may be considered, but these are not intended to speed up ejaculation.
Saw this and the handy guide with strategies and pricing for Soi 6, Walking st. Go-Gos and some other spots. Can be helpful for those who are new to PTY.
I have zero connections to the author.
[URL]https://www.mylifeinpattaya.blog/story/pattaya-girls-prices-guide-2025[/URL]
[QUOTE=Elario;3042628]Saw this and the handy guide with strategies and pricing for Soi 6, Walking st. Go-Gos and some other spots. Can be helpful for those who are new to PTY.
I have zero connections to the author.
[URL]https://www.mylifeinpattaya.blog/story/pattaya-girls-prices-guide-2025[/URL][/QUOTE]Ok info but I was offered 2500 by the girl next door for long time on soi 6 in July 2024. So even prices for LT is negotiable and depends on how busy they are. It was a slim 24 year old
[QUOTE=WanderingHuman;3042573]Hi all,
I'll be traveling to Bangkok this week. Can I carry dapoxetine and a few other prescribed tablets from India without any issues if I have a valid prescription? Since these medicines are not narcotics, do I still need to declare them on the Thailand arrival form? Just looking for experiences from anyone who's done this before.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Medications can be checked here: [URL]https://permitfortraveler.fda.moph.go.th/nct_permit_main/Main/FRM_checkdrug_index[/URL] to see if they are allowed.
[QUOTE=WanderingHuman;3042573]I'll be traveling to Bangkok this week. Can I carry dapoxetine and a few other prescribed tablets from India without any issues if I have a valid prescription? Since these medicines are not narcotics, do I still need to declare them on the Thailand arrival form? [/QUOTE]Not sure why you decided to post this in the Pattaya Reports forum. For starters you aren't even going to Pattaya but to Bangkok. The better option would have been "General Reports" or "Thailand Lounge and Chat".
I'm assuming you've never been to Thailand before. Thailand is the easiest country in the world to pretty much get any medication, especially sex related meds. Just walk into a pharmacy and buy it. No doctor visit or script required. I don't know anyone who's ever been pulled aside entering Thailand for carrying prescribed medication in quantities for personal use.
[QUOTE=Elario;3042628]Saw this and the handy guide with strategies and pricing for Soi 6, Walking st. Go-Gos and some other spots. Can be helpful for those who are new to PTY.
I have zero connections to the author.
[URL]https://www.mylifeinpattaya.blog/story/pattaya-girls-prices-guide-2025[/URL][/QUOTE]Is it worth to get a paying membership? It costs 29 € per month to unlock the vault.
[QUOTE=Elario;3042628]Saw this and the handy guide with strategies and pricing for Soi 6, Walking st. Go-Gos and some other spots. Can be helpful for those who are new to PTY.
I have zero connections to the author.
[URL]https://www.mylifeinpattaya.blog/story/pattaya-girls-prices-guide-2025[/URL][/QUOTE]That page just sounds like it is written by an AI - and let me get right to the point to tell you why. Things like that.
But the real info is in there. It's fluffed AI slop but rather accurate to my knowledge. Yes paying 2 k for a ST is on the high end. No, the mongers who live in Pattaya don't pay 2 k and risk a stroke when telling noobies not to pay that much. But if you're coming in from the west for a vacation, the prices there are accurate.
The decline of Pattaya's popularity is well-explained in a YouTube video. It is a great summary for those of us who experienced Pattaya's "golden years" and have now found better places to live and vacation. Check out Why Pattaya Really Changed. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNQQ4so4iY[/URL] The same reasons could apply to BKK, IMO.
Sam.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3043054]The decline of Pattaya's popularity is well-explained in a YouTube video. It is a great summary for those of us who experienced Pattaya's "golden years" and have now found better places to live and vacation. Check out Why Pattaya Really Changed. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNQQ4so4iY[/URL] The same reasons could apply to BKK, IMO.
Sam.[/QUOTE]The vibe of the video is depressing, despite all what he said if you never been to pattaya it still worth a least 1 trip. I know no place on earth like pattaya for a single man. It still a disney land for adult male and there is not only the grils who worth it but the food, the beach and a lots of other very intersting stuff to do. The image he is choosing are intentionaly to force the viewer to agree with the depressing things he is explaning: empty bar, empty street, building in ruins. But replace all this by image taken on WS and Treetown at Friday night evening or soi6 on a busy evening and the vibe would be totally different. Most image are from the early evening when the bar just openend or even in the afternoon. Of course it look dead empty. The place is alive around 22:00, not at 10 AM.
There is a lots of things he is not mentionning, like to cost of plane ticket. Now my plane ticket cost me a least x2 what they was costing before covid crysis. Lots of worker had made a switch to remote work in the past 10 years and a lot of working girl made the move too. Its bad for beer bar and gogo but not for regular customer. Going in bar is fun, but the girls who would cost 2000 BF+3000ST+1000 of beer and LD will agree for 1500 online. On the 6000 she probably get 1-2000 + the hassle of having to stand all night into the middle of a bar in competition with hundred of other girls, half naked under cold aircon then wasting her perfect body on dozen of LD each night. On the customer side you had the same fuck but you still have 4500 in your wallet for the next round and didn't had to waste yourself into an alcoholic behavior.
The video isn't talking about the one things who is the most unique about thailand meat market and its the GFE experience. In pattaya and Bangkok the girls you are BF are coming with you and if the vibe is good you can go drinking with her and do party then later go back at the hotel to fuck her. In other destination the transaction only include sex and its over after. This special GFE experience is vanishing slowly over year and faster then ever since covid epidemia but still there so its something very fun to live if you can forget that they are *****s doing *****s things to avoid being alone for too long in a ackward situation with another of the dozen of dick she will fuck and suck this week. Because being in a room 3 hours with you mean wasting her pussy 2-3 time for 1ST while roming all around bar she know and collecting her share on all the money you waste then only have to fuck once mean she earned more money into the 3 hours and her pussy is good for more 2 more customer that night.
But if you exclude all the GFE thing Thai put their price on an upper market and tbh most place in thailand arent offering what you can get for this price. This thing in the video is sadly true, most place you will go in now you will consider you lucky to see more then 1-2 girls you would really want to pay to fuck with. Most massage place, soapie, soi6 bar and even on WS are full or girls I would not fuck for free. Search on this board and google about place like Germany, Brazil, Colombia, spain, prtugal, makau, France (.) what you can get for 200 usd. It will make you reconsider the idea of a long trip to pattaya gogo scam. Its not the same overall experience but if the main reason to go there is to fuck lady pattaya is now playing into a different league and the place isn't in the top 5 of it. Bangkok is now a lot better for that and considered less expensive for what you get for the money you spent. Pattaya beach and smallest size is appealing and BKK is a huge and scary city and pattaya red light district is a lot more popular on the web then Bangkok scene who is more complexe beacause things arent all regrouped around 1 zone of the city.
In capitalist industry you must accept something, when its too expenssive just don't buy it and let the buffalo die. Because the current scam model of pattaya pushed me to avoid gogo and soi6. You can't copy what pattaya was 20 years ago but the current point and click online sex industry is something who can be found in a lot of place on this planet and for the budget it cost to go to pattaya and fuck lady you can have the same routine in a lots of different countryt for better sex with better looking womens. 1000-1500 $ for flight is a huge cut on a budget, lower this on a different destination to 500-1000 and you have near 1000 $ more to spend on girls. So pattaya meat market is now asking prices comparable with other market and the long flight cost +1000 $ then what other market are costing. Do the math and the 100-200 $ asked by the bars in pattaya is costing you 200-300 $ now. For 300 $ by fuck you can be sat in one of the best frankfur brothel and eating good quality food surrounded by 100 top model ready to fuck like the working girl of WS and soi6 bar.
So my 2 cent about this video:
1. pattay still worth it for the unique experience, go at least once if you can afford it but go with a decent budget, don't go there broke or you are going to cry and want to kill yourself. 10 000 tbh seem be the average reasonnable amount to have fun on a good day.
2. if you already been and didn't likedit, or you are tired of it and want to try something different or you doesn't care about all the GFE thing and disney land for adult bullshit and your only intent is to fuck with 9-10 top model and bimbo fuck doll. Well as I said do the math I explained early and plan in term of budget and cost per fuck.If you have to suffer the cost and pain of a long flight to go there pattaya isn't the best place on earth anymore , i think its probably not even into the top 10. Pattaya still on top or near the top for a lots of things like the adult disney land experience, the low cost for things like food and hotel room, the overall security who is something relatively impressing when you consider its considered a country who is financialy very poor but who is a lot safer then comparable country in africa , south america and even most big city of USA. But sadly pattaya taken a big drop into the list of sex destination for the pure ratio of dollard spend by fuck.
Phuket was easy to find the real massage parlors to the massage parlors with extra (either the pattern of the girls dressing or the setup. It was easy) as most of the massage parlors were around the Bangla road. It was a bit difficult to find them in Pattaya. Walking street is a mess with mostly occupied by Indian Clubs and targeting desi's to get into those clubs. I am not into clubs and did not like the entire atmosphere of the walking street.
Massage Parlors / Go Go Bars: It was kinda tough as finding the massage parlors wasn't easy, since Pattaya is spread across LK Metro and Soi-6 places. Most of the places had "go go bars" and as usually Indians are not welcome here, no girls tries to pull in the Indians (we were not in groups, just 3 of us), so expecting a better service in any of these places was a dream, hence didn't get into any of them.
Soapy Massages. With all the reviews, I zeroed in on visiting Honey 1, Honey 3 and PP Soapy Massage. I found one good in Honey-1. The prices were high but it's a good experience. The lady rushed through the service. But she was good, it's the same regular pattern. Shower - soapy massage on the mattress - deed - shower cleanup. Cost me around - 3300 for the counter with 200+100 for LD and tip.
TF worked greatly in Pattaya. At Kirsia123 shared a contact and she was really good, she travelled all the way from Bangkok just to see me. Setup the meeting in the afternoon at my hotel, it was hassle free. Banged her good for an HR. Pretty much tried all the positions in KS, standing / sitting / doggie and she took it all like a champion, finished in CIM. 2000 BH.
Tried another contact in TF the other day and she was great too. TF seems to be the best bet overall. Nice experience and safer to try. Hotel takes their ID cards before letting the lady in and reception calls the room or meets you in-person when the lady leaves. So no chance of stealing or other stuff.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3043054]The decline of Pattaya's popularity is well-explained in a YouTube video. It is a great summary for those of us who experienced Pattaya's "golden years" and have now found better places to live and vacation. Check out Why Pattaya Really Changed. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNQQ4so4iY[/URL] The same reasons could apply to BKK, IMO..[/QUOTE]Better than Pattaya? Really?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3042835]Not sure why you decided to post this in the Pattaya Reports forum. For starters you aren't even going to Pattaya but to Bangkok. The better option would have been "General Reports" or "Thailand Lounge and Chat".
I'm assuming you've never been to Thailand before. Thailand is the easiest country in the world to pretty much get any medication, especially sex related meds. Just walk into a pharmacy and buy it. No doctor visit or script required. I don't know anyone who's ever been pulled aside entering Thailand for carrying prescribed medication in quantities for personal use.[/QUOTE]Mostly agree. But see the recent Bangkok forum. 20 posts about how to save a couple of $ by going ARL over Grab / BOLT. Packing only carry on. Talking about elevators. This one post didn't bother me much and lot more closer contextually IMHO.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3043162]Better than Pattaya? Really?[/QUOTE]"Better" requires making a value judgement. Kind of like comparing whiskey or a motorcycle. Price? Performance? Style? Taste? Choices? Comfort? For me, right next door in Phnom Penh checks more boxes than Pattaya. As often stated, YMMV.
Sam.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3043321]Mostly agree. But see the recent Bangkok forum. 20 posts about how to save a couple of $ by going ARL over Grab / BOLT. Packing only carry on. Talking about elevators. This one post didn't bother me much and lot more closer contextually IMHO.[/QUOTE]It's not so much about saving money, it's about saving time. As soon as you are in Bangkok, you will find out that public transport is often the easiest and fastest way to get around.
I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043903]I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?[/QUOTE]LOL the girls in that first picture.
Second picture, yeah. I'd say in that one, 3 d from the left standing, and first on the left on the ground look good.
Look up videos of walking or biking in pattaya. Those ones are most accurate. Diamonds in the rough, but there is [I]a lot[/I] of rough to go through.
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043903]I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?[/QUOTE]In Pattaya generally I find 2 girls out 100 working girls to be attractive. However because of the volume you can still find someone. You have to be nimble and move fast between venues and / or climb up on pay scale. Nowadays internet as well may work for you.
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043903]I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?[/QUOTE]What you will see is 90% of the ladies in any given bar are substandard. But 10% are hottest.
What happens is that ladies in their 30's find themselves in the village with kids, but no husband and no job. They have friends working in Pattaya, so they go, but wash out in a month or so. The bar doesn't pay them a salary unless they meet a daily drink quota.
Perspective on ladies. I watched many videos and did thaifriendly contacts before visit. I'm mid 60's and looked for ladies late 20's-50 ish. Young girls most places mongering are poor performers and still can have 2,3 kids by early 20's. I checked out varios clubs, beach road, soi 6,massage. I got good massage from 40 year old attractive at shop for 1000 baht. Found many nice ladies late 20's-mid 30's in small clubs on side streets. I spent a few days, nights with 44 yr old, paid 2000 a day plus expenses. She took my clothes home to wash, had a scooter so was my local taxi where we didn't need car. Probably a 7 in looks but 10 plus personality and fun, finding good food and clubs for local prices. You can find diamonds in rough and is someone for all taste there. Plan a little but don't overthink.
[QUOTE=Luis2;3043924]I got good massage from 40 year old attractive at shop for 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]1000 baht for a massage?
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043903]I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?[/QUOTE]You just happen to come across girls from a shit bar on Soi 6 and a shit bar on Soi Honey that cater to cheap dudes who don't care much for looks but rather just it be cheap.
Massage withe xtras (full service covered GFE) for 1000. But first time visitors watch for ladyboys. My 1st choice based on looks was ladyboy upon closer inspection. And 1 regular bar in Bangkok, the prettiest bargirl was ladyboy.
During my visit earlier this year, I was surprised to find that 03 (and 01) condoms were not available at most seven eleven stores. Wondering what is current cost and availability situation?
If they are not available now a days, what is another good source of buying a dozen of these incredible condoms?
TIA to anyone who can advise.
[QUOTE=Plan77;3044028]If they are not available now a days, what is another good source of buying a dozen of these incredible condoms?[/QUOTE]I always bring my own from wherever I am residing at the time. Likely have a larger selection of brands to choose from.
Boots in Bangkok and at BKK have them. Guys have been known to buy out the stock though. I've never checked Boots in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Plan77;3044028]During my visit earlier this year, I was surprised to find that 03 (and 01) condoms were not available at most seven eleven stores. Wondering what is current cost and availability situation?
If they are not available now a days, what is another good source of buying a dozen of these incredible condoms?
TIA to anyone who can advise.[/QUOTE]7/11 is not the best place to look. However, they are easily available online; from such outlets as Shopee or Lazada.
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043903]I've never visited Pattaya, but I'm beginning to plan an early 2026 trip. My Facebook feed has begun showing pages of some clubs there. Attached are recent profile photos of the female staff in two bars.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but OMG, my opinion is most of these ladies are horrid looking.
My question is are these women representative of the majority of the staff working in the majority of Pattaya's gentleman's clubs?[/QUOTE]Your question specifically asks about the quality in gents clubs rather than say agogos. They are very different venues. GCs are fabulous value for money but the standard is unquestionably lower than in agogos. But as others have said. You'll find one or two very nice girls in GCs. I loved Passion (Jomtien) and Sin (Soi Bongkok 8) last trip. Both had a lot of poor or average girls and yet one or two really attractive options. If you have unlimited budget go to Climax Berlin. Pattaya North. Great venue, indoor swimming pool, great vibe and plenty of very very sexy girls. But prices are high. Agogos. And Soi 6. - you will find plenty who are very attractive.
With recent alcohol sales rules change, that is sales from 11 am to midnight, how practically things work now on WS, LK etc, do bars and clubs sell alcohol in extended hours to 4 am?
During the elections of February 8th, what alcohol sales ban is expected, 6 pm the day before to 6 pm on the day of the Elections, or midnight to midnight?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3043923]What you will see is 90% of the ladies in any given bar are substandard. But 10% are hottest.
What happens is that ladies in their 30's find themselves in the village with kids, but no husband and no job. They have friends working in Pattaya, so they go, but wash out in a month or so. The bar doesn't pay them a salary unless they meet a daily drink quota.[/QUOTE]You're on the right track but it doesn't work that way and it never has.
You'd need to be able to go back 20+ years to fully understand what has happened to the quality of the girls but suffice to say it is a mixture of rising wages in non P4P jobs, social media and smart phones, freelancing taking off big time and bars not being able to compete with what the prettiest girls can earn elsewhere, including the gogos.
Every bar needs girls to serve drinks and they won't be on any quotas but they will be on the same commissions. If a girl is hot but wants to work in a bar, sure, she might be able to negotiate a high salary with quotas but that is just the flipside of getting lots of commissions so it rarely happens. Only if on agency will there be quotas as the numbers are stupidly high.
You don't get many 30/40 somethings heading to Pattaya much as they can get work in the factories and stay home. Living in Pattaya with food, accommodation and transport can eat up a lot of money.
A bar needs a mix of attractions. I don't want a mute 18 year old but neither do I want a 45 year old. Somewhere in the 25 to 35 age range is ideal and possible 30/35 is perfect but no fat piggies either. Some guys want younger, some older, some like the fatties, some like big tits.
[QUOTE=Worldtourguide;3044324]You're on the right track but it doesn't work that way and it never has.
You'd need to be able to go back 20+ years to fully understand what has happened to the quality of the girls but suffice to say it is a mixture of rising wages in non P4P jobs, social media and smart phones, freelancing taking off big time and bars not being able to compete with what the prettiest girls can earn elsewhere, including the gogos.
Every bar needs girls to serve drinks and they won't be on any quotas but they will be on the same commissions. If a girl is hot but wants to work in a bar, sure, she might be able to negotiate a high salary with quotas but that is just the flipside of getting lots of commissions so it rarely happens. Only if on agency will there be quotas as the numbers are stupidly high.
You don't get many 30/40 somethings heading to Pattaya much as they can get work in the factories and stay home. Living in Pattaya with food, accommodation and transport can eat up a lot of money.
A bar needs a mix of attractions. I don't want a mute 18 year old but neither do I want a 45 year old. Somewhere in the 25 to 35 age range is ideal and possible 30/35 is perfect but no fat piggies either. Some guys want younger, some older, some like the fatties, some like big tits.[/QUOTE]A lot of factories "retire" women at age 35, which is the reason you don't see over 35 stopping work in a bar to go work factory. As for drink quotas, they are common these days.
The type of venues in Pattaya now are very different from 20 years ago. There are a lot more bars where older women can prosper, compared to the "Good Old Days". I was in Pattaya Back in the Day, where there were a lot more open bars, no real Gentlemens Clubs, and a lot fewer bars than today.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3044159]Your question specifically asks about the quality in gents clubs rather than say agogos. They are very different venues. GCs are fabulous value for money but the standard is unquestionably lower than in agogos. But as others have said. You'll find one or two very nice girls in GCs. I loved Passion (Jomtien) and Sin (Soi Bongkok 8) last trip. Both had a lot of poor or average girls and yet one or two really attractive options. If you have unlimited budget go to Climax Berlin. Pattaya North. Great venue, indoor swimming pool, great vibe and plenty of very very sexy girls. But prices are high. Agogos. And Soi 6. - you will find plenty who are very attractive.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PayForIt;3044159]Your question specifically asks about the quality in gents clubs rather than say agogos. They are very different venues. GCs are fabulous value for money but the standard is unquestionably lower than in agogos. But as others have said. You'll find one or two very nice girls in GCs. I loved Passion (Jomtien) and Sin (Soi Bongkok 8) last trip. Both had a lot of poor or average girls and yet one or two really attractive options. If you have unlimited budget go to Climax Berlin. Pattaya North. Great venue, indoor swimming pool, great vibe and plenty of very very sexy girls. But prices are high. Agogos. And Soi 6. - you will find plenty who are very attractive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Climax Berlin heads up, I've just booked a room there for a couple of nights for a change from View Talay 6, another great recommendation from someone on here (thanks for that) but the condo I want is only available for 4 nights of my stay so that looks a good alternative for a few nights and it'll be a nice change. Has a jacuzzi in the room for 2000 be which I thought is a very fair price, has very good reviews as well. It's not as central as VT 6 but I always rent a motorbike so no issues there, it's only 10 minutes away.
I'll definitely check out Climax Berlin, the beer prices don't seem too bad, 200 be for a Heineken, 300 be entry which includes a beer but obviously I've no idea the prices for the girls yet (I read 5 K somewhere) it doesn't matter anyway, if nothing takes my fancy or the prices are just super silly for what you get then I'll get a TF or Beach Road princess back to the in room jacuzzi instead, either way it's a win win.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3044415]Thanks for the Climax Berlin heads up, I've just booked a room there for a couple of nights for a change from View Talay 6, another great recommendation from someone on here (thanks for that) but the condo I want is only available for 4 nights of my stay so that looks a good alternative for a few nights and it'll be a nice change. Has a jacuzzi in the room for 2000 be which I thought is a very fair price, has very good reviews as well. It's not as central as VT 6 but I always rent a motorbike so no issues there, it's only 10 minutes away.
I'll definitely check out Climax Berlin, the beer prices don't seem too bad, 200 be for a Heineken, 300 be entry which includes a beer but obviously I've no idea the prices for the girls yet (I read 5 K somewhere) it doesn't matter anyway, if nothing takes my fancy or the prices are just super silly for what you get then I'll get a TF or Beach Road princess back to the in room jacuzzi instead, either way it's a win win.[/QUOTE]I think the same source on her fee has reviewed also a 1,500 baht exit fee extra at CB Hotel. But Friday and Saturday night shows may be worth to check them out.
After many many years had a short visit to Pattaya to attend some business matters. Some non-mongering points first.
Transportation: Used Pattaya Tom Taxi (+66982812537 on WhatsApp) for transfer from Central BKK Sukhimvit to Pattaya. THB1300 inclusive of tolls. Agent was very responsive and was able to book the evening prior to morning pickup. Used their cheapest option, but was provided a comfortable mid-sized car for both trips. Drivers were very prompt on pickup and careful with driving.
Accommodation: Booked the Flipper House Hotel on Soi 7. Used Agoda. 2 nights for Standard Double with breakfast was THB2500 including taxes and fees. Staff were okay, I would say they were what I call "farang curt" in their interactions. Room was nice. Comfy large firm bed and good shower, which is all I really needed or wanted. Breakfast was good and they had an egg station to make fresh eggs to order. I selected Flipper mostly for close proximity to the SCB Bank branch on Second Road, where I needed to do some pre-work for the next day's business matter. The staff at SCB were helpful and professional and got the job done for my business matter the next day.
Eats: I visited The Shack close to the SCB on first afternoon. Had thier double smash burger, which was nice but didn't have crispy edges I prefer. I also tried their filet steak the following day's lunch after successful completion of my business. Steak was good, but a bit overdone.
For dinners I had Alibaba Indian on Central Pattaya Road together with business associate. Excellent Indian. Butter Chicken, Daal, Naan bread and Tandoor Prawns were fantastic. Pattaya Mayor was there for some dinner event. For the second night dinner I had Nok's Smash Burger on Sai Song Road. Their double smash burger was to my liking with crispy edges and included a side of fresh crinkle fries. Very yummy, but I was not prepared that it was just a roadside stall with limited outside seating. It was a pleasantly cool evening, so it was not an issue for me.
Mongering: For the mongering stuff, it was not the focus of my trip, but I did walk over to Soi 6 to check out the scene. There were all shapes and sizes and quite a few girls I considered for a punt, but I didn't partake on the first night with the intention to come back on the second night to celebrate completing my business matter. I also walked up and down Beach Road and found nothing to my liking, the girls I encountered were simply too old and too fat. I walked up Soi 7 near Beach Road and I spotted a cutie at a pool bar that stopped me in my tracks. I went in, ordered a drink and started to play pool with the girl. I asked the older girls about barfining the girl and they mumbled something about "cannot, she owner's girl". Yuck, owner's Coyote Girl. Played another game of pool, paid and left. No action on the first night.
For the second night, I had intention to go out to Soi 6. After taking a rest in the afternoon though, I was thinking about what members have reported about the ease of Thai Friendly. I had never used it, so I thought let's see and downloaded. Very easy to set up a profile, add a picture and start. The interface is quite intuitive. Needless to say, it was just seconds before I was getting notification after notification that "XX is interested in you". To cut to the chase, it was not more than an hour before I had girls offering to come to the room for short time fun. I eventually selected a cute, slim and baby-free 21 yo (see pic attached) that was cudding on my bed literally 20 minutes after we sealed the deal. Kissing, BBBJ and condomless girlfriend sex (as pre-negotiated) were provided with girlfriend-like care. Ending was a deep CIP, which was the cherry on top to completing my business matter. THB2000 happily paid. Thanks to the members who have reported about Thai Friendly.
In the evening, I was going to go across the street for massage, but noticed there is an in-house place in the hotel. I popped in and asked the lone lady if she could do the massage in the room and she said CAAAN. So I had her up for a 90-minute oil massage, which was heaven to cap off the visit. The lady asked if I wanted "special", but I declined with my balls still tingling from the TF girl.
Returned to BKK the following morning. All in all the trip ticked all the boxes. I will make a separate post about my observations on getting the most out of the free version of Thai Friendly. Enjoy, AR.
To add to my post below, some reflective observations and optimizations based on my very brief experience using Thai Friendly without subscription in Pattaya.
(1) When you add a photo, go through the additional process to verify by facial recognition. If you do, this will unlock some swiping priviledge and it will give you a "verified" badge that signals to the girls you are you.
(2) Set your limited search settings soonest. I went for age 18-21, Search Near Me and Distance of 3 km. This way I got search hits that would be in my target age range and nearby.
(3) Unfortunately Height, weight and "no children" are Premium Search features. So you need to filter this when you look at each girl profile. My preference was for under 50 kg.
(4) I immediately started getting like notifications. Ping. Ping. Ping. If you just dismiss the notifications, it will go into your "Liked Me" folder, but all the IDs will be hidden with an "Upgrade" upsell. Here is a trick. Pull down the notifications and open up each one. If the girl looks interesting, you can click through. In my case the girl was outside of my preference so I would just dismiss that particular notification. This is an easy way to get premium feature for free.
(5) Key word used by all the working girls is "freelance".
(6) You will be limited to one message every 10 minutes. So I was very direct to move to WhatsApp. Any girl I was interested, I sent a message in TF "Hi. Freelance? Message my WhatsApp at XXXXXXX". With the 10 minute limitation, it is useless to try back and forth messaging on free TF, so move to WhatsApp or LINE as soon as possible.
(7) Once I got the girls on WhatsApp, it was direct to the point. I am attaching a couple examples of WhatsApp chats where the girl didn't meet expectation. And an example from the girl who actually came to me.
(8) Be direct with what you want. Besides my preference for looks, I wanted a certain age (21 and under) and weight (under 50 kg). I didn't want a baby mama (which I encountered frequently). And I wanted girlfriend sex no condom (which was surprisingly and pleasantly easy).
(9) Price most often quoted for what I was looking for was THB2000. I likely could have gotten lower with negotiation, say THB1500, but wasn't so fussed as long as my requirements and expectations were met.
(10) Pattaya TF is quite a meat market. By the following day I had over 180 likes, so volume is not a factor. For me, 90% of those likes were from girls outside of my target. But what I observed is that there were many girls who were working go-go bars, beer bars or beach road as their profile pics were straight from those venues.
(11) I had no issues with free Thai Friendly for the super short duration I used it. Many young and eager providers ready to meet up. However, if I was staying for longer than a few days, IMO it would definitely be worth a $20 monthly subscription to unlock the premium search and messaging features.
(12) Suggest not to try to set anything up in advance. TF is not a high-class escort site that takes bookings. I noticed I was getting notifications in waves, so it seems the girls come online in morning, afternoon, evening and late evening "shifts" depending on their working pattern. They want to set something up quick (and so do you), so nobody is waiting around for anybody. Once I found my girl, I ghosted all the other girls who were messaging. Just like that. And I expect the girls do the same.
(13) Upon return to BKK, I noticed TF is less effective because the city is much bigger and the pool density of P4P providers is less. But it can work, just with more patience and effort.
Hope this is helpful. Enjoy TF in Pattaya. AR.
Hi All.
Anyone tried LinLin from Cbody. I have booked an appointment with her for 90 minutes hoping some b2 b, HJ, sex she completed massage in 60 minutes and told she's finished I asked for extra services she said no. And left.
Any idea why she rejected. And Cbody girls provide extra services at all??
TIA.
The transformation of Soi 6 from a Short Time street to East Asian drinking bars is progressing.
You may have noticed the lack of reports here about Soi 6, volume is way down. With less emphasis on going to the room, the ladies can be older and fatter.
As Farangs understand that Soi 6 ladies aren't that interested in going to the room, they slowly disappear from the bars, heading to greener pastures. The problem is that, while Koreans can buy enough drinks to keep the bars in business, there aren't enough to support the ladies (as the Farangs disappear). This will result in lack of business for some ladies, who will migrate to other areas. The resulting thinning of the herds of ladies will cause some loss of interest by East Asian customers, the beginning of a death spiral.
I give Soi 6 5 years before it is converted to hotels.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3044705]The transformation of Soi 6 from a Short Time street to East Asian drinking bars is progressing.
You may have noticed the lack of reports here about Soi 6, volume is way down. With less emphasis on going to the room, the ladies can be older and fatter.
As Farangs understand that Soi 6 ladies aren't that interested in going to the room, they slowly disappear from the bars, heading to greener pastures. The problem is that, while Koreans can buy enough drinks to keep the bars in business, there aren't enough to support the ladies (as the Farangs disappear). This will result in lack of business for some ladies, who will migrate to other areas. The resulting thinning of the herds of ladies will cause some loss of interest by East Asian customers, the beginning of a death spiral.
I give Soi 6 5 years before it is converted to hotels.[/QUOTE]Big group took control of the street and fixed some minimum drink rules to the lady. They monopolyzed to cutest and popularized the girsl who are there only to bring customer inside to sell drink. Korean didn't provoked this, its business alliance between bar who bringed western business practice of profit maximisation. The bar are doing money with the alcohol, not with the sex. i seen this happening elsewhere on earth, you have clean fun and cheap brothel then you see foreign gang coming in and transform this to an american strip club in which you almost have to sit on your hands.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3044795]Big group took control of the street and fixed some minimum drink rules to the lady. They monopolyzed to cutest and popularized the girsl who are there only to bring customer inside to sell drink. Korean didn't provoked this, its business alliance between bar who bringed western business practice of profit maximisation. The bar are doing money with the alcohol, not with the sex. i seen this happening elsewhere on earth, you have clean fun and cheap brothel then you see foreign gang coming in and transform this to an american strip club in which you almost have to sit on your hands.[/QUOTE]The new Soi 6 business model only works if East Asians come and buy lots of drinks.
What happens is that East Asians come to Thailand as a group for two week holidays with their work buddies. They go to Soi 6 and show off by buying huge amounts of drinks. But, they can't go to the room with a lady because their "work buddies" will tell the wife.
So ladies in the bar wait for a customer who will buy them 40 drinks. For Farangs who want to go to the room, they are mostly out of luck. Better to go Soi Chaiyapoon.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3044705]The transformation of Soi 6 from a Short Time street to East Asian drinking bars is progressing.
You may have noticed the lack of reports here about Soi 6, volume is way down. With less emphasis on going to the room, the ladies can be older and fatter.
As Farangs understand that Soi 6 ladies aren't that interested in going to the room, they slowly disappear from the bars, heading to greener pastures. The problem is that, while Koreans can buy enough drinks to keep the bars in business, there aren't enough to support the ladies (as the Farangs disappear). This will result in lack of business for some ladies, who will migrate to other areas. The resulting thinning of the herds of ladies will cause some loss of interest by East Asian customers, the beginning of a death spiral.
I give Soi 6 5 years before it is converted to hotels.[/QUOTE]There's been a trend over the past few years of regular Western visitors cutting back on Soi 6, other than a few independent bars that I regularly visit the rest of Soi 6 no longer interests me. Night Wish has been squeezing as much money out of their customers as they can and when I was first asked to buy a girl a rack of shots before I took her upstairs then it was the end for me and I have not gone back. I spent the last two weeks going to Soi Honey and Soi Buakhao and those two Soi 6 independent bars.
I see some changes coming even quicker, NWG might have to sell off bars to fund their legal woes (did you know that as a company NWG was dissolved years ago?
There are less westerners and more asians visiting the street and not necessarily for sex with the girls. So I agree with you there.
Hi, I'd like some information about SOI 6. Is there any truth to the rumor that you have to have a minimum of 10 drinks to take a girl home? Do you have any news on this? If so, I'm not going to SOI 6 anymore. I'm waiting for your response for those who have updated information.
[QUOTE=Downandup;3044876]There's been a trend over the past few years of regular Western visitors cutting back on Soi 6, other than a few independent bars that I regularly visit the rest of Soi 6 no longer interests me. Night Wish has been squeezing as much money out of their customers as they can and when I was first asked to buy a girl a rack of shots before I took her upstairs then it was the end for me and I have not gone back. I spent the last two weeks going to Soi Honey and Soi Buakhao and those two Soi 6 independent bars.
I see some changes coming even quicker, NWG might have to sell off bars to fund their legal woes (did you know that as a company NWG was dissolved years ago?
There are less westerners and more asians visiting the street and not necessarily for sex with the girls. So I agree with you there.[/QUOTE]Which are the two indie bars on Soi 6? I'll check them out next time I'm in town.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3044933]Hi, I'd like some information about SOI 6. Is there any truth to the rumor that you have to have a minimum of 10 drinks to take a girl home? Do you have any news on this? If so, I'm not going to SOI 6 anymore. I'm waiting for your response for those who have updated information.[/QUOTE]No, there is no 'rule'. It depends on the bar and the girl.
Girl like you? Small barfine, upstairs, go to your room now kaa.
Girl no like you? 10 lady drinks and 1 rack of shots for mama, 3 k barfine, 3 k short time upstairs. No smoke kaa.
In real talk, it still depends on the place. If the girl says there is a lady drink minimum to go upstairs, they want your money. If she says there is a LD quota for the day before she can be barfined long time, that might be true.
If you're a piggy bank enough to pay the unofficial tax of whatever they want, go and pay it. Others will go to other bars or cross the street and get some freelancers who have no barfine quota nonsense.
If you're not a cheap charlie, go in to or be pulled in to a bar. Buy a cheap drink, or water even. Call over a girl that you like (or bring one in, or be brought in by one). Ask "do you go upstairs? Do you barfine long time to my hotel with me overnight? Likely say no to the second question; they don't know you yet. If they say 'no drinks only girl', pay your tab and leave. If they say yes, you're now going to negotiate how much you are going to be spending in the bar, on the barfine (which should be less if it's very late and close to closing, or should be ZERO if you take her after closing! And on her.
But IMHO if you're looking for girls for long time on soi 6 and you aren't willing to play the 1-2 day long game getting to know someone, I imagine you would be turned down quite a bit, or milked like a piggy bank.
LT is always easier on repeat visits.
Naming independent bars and group bars at Soi 6 and their policies will make life much easier. Step up.
High Season is in full swing.
Bolt taxis and Grab are not available. Baht busses are jammed. I'm stuck in my condo.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3044933]Hi, I'd like some information about SOI 6. Is there any truth to the rumor that you have to have a minimum of 10 drinks to take a girl home? Do you have any news on this? If so, I'm not going to SOI 6 anymore. I'm waiting for your response for those who have updated information.[/QUOTE]OK, first off if you intend to take a girl upstairs on Soi 6 then you probably will not be asked to buy a lot of drinks, but it has happened to me a few years ago at Toy Box.
There have been frequent reports that that if you want to take a girl out of the bar for a few hours or the rest of the night then you will be asked to buy a minimum number of lady drinks. But it depends on the bar and the mamasan and the girl if that will happen, on another forum there have been conflicting reports about specific bars doing this so it can't be a hard and fast rule.
Mid Soi 6 bar.
I got quoted 1,500 plus 400.
Not a Korean Type. A bit dark but not Blek. Face is very good. Closer to 30. Tiddies look really really Good. Yes it Matters.
Will do in a few Weeks.
Nothing said about minimum Drinks.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;3021984]Welcome to Pattaya, the world's capital of putas!
According to Google, "It's difficult to pinpoint an exact number, but estimates suggest there are between 30,000 and 50,000 sex workers in Pattaya. This city is known for its extensive sex tourism industry. Many of these individuals, including women and transgender individuals (ladyboys), come from impoverished regions of Thailand with hopes of improving their financial situations.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to write that.. I shall endeavour to sample the best of those recommendations in a couple of weeks.
Too many venues in Pattaya, never enough time.
Got to try and not spend all my energy on smashing TF girls which has become a bit additive of late.
A quick data point. Right now (10 pm local time) there are no girls on beach road. Only a few trannies, the usual ones. Thick crowds of men traipsing up and down, no doubt because they've been told Beach Road is where you can find women.
[QUOTE=XXL;3045093]A quick data point. Right now (10 pm local time) there are no girls on beach road. Only a few trannies, the usual ones. Thick crowds of men traipsing up and down, no doubt because they've been told Beach Road is where you can find women.[/QUOTE]You know there was a round up of the foreign hookers on Beach Road the other night. The locals are probably waiting for things to cool down in order to not be next.
[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1383283-8-foreign-sex-workers-arrested-for-soliciting-on-pattaya-beach/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Questner;3045001]Naming independent bars and group bars at Soi 6 and their policies will make life much easier. Step up.[/QUOTE]I know both Hollywood and Fire are independent. There are more, but I am not sure of the names.
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;3045147]I know both Hollywood and Fire are independent. There are more, but I am not sure of the names.[/QUOTE]Thank you. We should use AI competition on the names etc. At least GPT 5. 1 is clueless.
[QUOTE=Downandup;3045044]OK, first off if you intend to take a girl upstairs on Soi 6 then you probably will not be asked to buy a lot of drinks, but it has happened to me a few years ago at Toy Box.
There have been frequent reports that that if you want to take a girl out of the bar for a few hours or the rest of the night then you will be asked to buy a minimum number of lady drinks. But it depends on the bar and the mamasan and the girl if that will happen, on another forum there have been conflicting reports about specific bars doing this so it can't be a hard and fast rule.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 was very different a few years ago. The ongoing transformation into a "drinks only" venue has indeed changed Soi 6 for the worst.
[QUOTE=Questner;3045164]Thank you. We should use AI competition on the names etc. At least GPT 5. 1 is clueless.[/QUOTE]Some more independent bars:
Red Point.
Wet Spot.
Nymphoz.
Helicopter.
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;3045147]I know both Hollywood and Fire are independent. There are more, but I am not sure of the names.[/QUOTE]Those are the only two that I know are run by westerners as well.
Anyone else? This is valuable info on knowing who to support.
Soi 6 is vastly overrated it's a tourist trap now dudes always say it's great by saying how many women are on the street. I'm like that's nice but how many are hot and the price is over 100 dollars all in for short time. With drink minimum included with the higher st fee Thai friendly is the better option. I remember when you could just walk in and go straight upstairs now you got to sit and buy drinks hanging out.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3045028]High Season is in full swing.
Bolt taxis and Grab are not available. Baht busses are jammed. I'm stuck in my condo.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with High Season. It's because of the New Years holiday, almost no one is working including Bolt drivers and Baht bus drivers.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3045288]Those are the only two that I know are run by westerners as well.
Anyone else? This is valuable info on knowing who to support.[/QUOTE]Wet Spot.
Red Point.
Helicopter.
Nymphoz.
King Kong.
Soho.
Thai Rose (although I have heard there are LB).
Panda.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3045289]Soi 6 is vastly overrated it's a tourist trap now dudes always say it's great by saying how many women are on the street. I'm like that's nice but how many are hot and the price is over 100 dollars all in for short time. With drink minimum included with the higher st fee Thai friendly is the better option. I remember when you could just walk in and go straight upstairs now you got to sit and buy drinks hanging out.[/QUOTE]It worth it a few time but price are insane now and there is now way too much fatty and ugly compared to hot one. 10 years ago you could eaily find a 8 for 1000 tbh without even spending on drink and now you are going to be lucky to find a 6 who is asking less then 2000.
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;3045301]Wet Spot.
Red Point.
Helicopter.
Nymphoz.
King Kong.
Soho.
Thai Rose (although I have heard there are LB).
Panda.[/QUOTE]Thank you, that will leave us below the list (please correct if any bar permanently closed, changed names, merged etc):
Below unclear or NWG Night Wish Group:
Corner Bar.
Good Fellas.
Omega Bar.
Hot Pot.
Monkey Banana.
Oppa Bar.
Smoke & Mirrors.
Sexy in the City.
Showgirls.
Foxy.
Desire.
Spider.
Solo.
Slutz.
Butterfly.
Ruby.
Lust.
Horny.
Flirt.
Lady in Love.
Sweet.
Night Wish (obvious).
Blue Panda (? Same as Panda below).
Area 69.
Boofies.
Gold.
The Spot (? Same as Wet Spot below).
Sandman Sports.
Seduction.
Kelaya 66.
Avarice.
Tiffany's.
Miso.
Passion.
Miyu.
Wicked.
Elevate.
Wet Pussy.
VIP.
Click.
Saigon.
Playgirls.
Kawaii.
Playpen.
Toy Box.
La La Land.
At least in the past the simple MO was to ask the girl if she goes up, buy her and self a drink, pay the room and the girl to a total of about as example 1,800 baht.
The past is past.
Soi 6 is not what it used to be. Short Time is becoming rare, in favor of buying bargirls 40 drinks (at least that's what they want).
That's a long list and I know that out of it these are the NWG bars:
Omega Bar.
Sexy in the City.
Foxy.
Desire.
Lust.
Horny.
Flirt. This is where the manager William Reece Bilton and "owner" Punnipa Flowers got 21 year prison sentences for trafficking and selling a 16 year old.
Passion.
Kawaii.
Playpen.
Toy Box.
Wicked.
Kawaii
Playpen.
Toy Box.
Wrath.
Seduction.
Avarice.
Offshore.
Repent.
Exotica.
Saigon.
Playgirls.
La La Land.
Mod's bar.
Roxy.
Butterfly.
Where angels play.
Pussy Club.
Nature bar.
Envy.
This may include some bars that have been closed.
These are bars in other groups:
Smoke & Mirrors.
Miso.
Slutz.
Area 69.
Miyu.
These are known to be independent:
Boofies.
Corner Bar.
Ruby.
Click.
These are unknown:
Good Fellas.
Hot Pot.
Monkey Banana.
Oppa Bar.
Showgirls.
Spider.
Solo.
Lady in Love.
Sweet.
Blue Panda (? Same as Panda below).
Gold.
The Spot (? Same as Wet Spot below).
Sandman Sports.
Kelaya 66.
Tiffany's.
Elevate.
Wet Pussy.
VIP.
NWG has a web site ([URL]https://nightwish-group.com[/URL]) where they have photos of all their venues. I did a quick count. They have 20 bars on Soi 6. AR.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;3045398]NWG has a web site ([URL]https://nightwish-group.com[/URL]) where they have photos of all their venues. I did a quick count. They have 20 bars on Soi 6. AR.[/QUOTE]That's the most accurate link to know which bars are NW nowadays.
That list is consistent with their telegram channel providing the daily lineups of all their bars.
The lists given below are inaccurate or outdated, bars like Pussy club or Envy did not even reopen since covid, there's no bar with the name Nightwish since a few years already, Kawai has been taken over by the same group that already owns Saigon, benders, Wet six, Lala Land, Cooters, Bootycall and maybe more.
Very few bars are really independent, the ones that still are, are mostly run down, like My Friend You, Soho, LoveMissile, Sandcastle.
Chilli and Candy are from the same people, Lust and Desire are also working together, Goodfellas, Tomcat, Baba bar, Oppa are managed by the same people. Nikki bar is surely part of another group,.
It's hard to tell which bars are operating together because they change ownership frequently and add some new bars to their groups whener they can.
I'm pretty sure all these wolves are waiting for the big run down places to shut (like Amnesia, My friend You and others), take them over, divide the space in two different bars and maximize their profit that way.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3045370]The past is past.
Soi 6 is not what it used to be. Short Time is becoming rare, in favor of buying bargirls 40 drinks (at least that's what they want).[/QUOTE]What they want and what's happening for real is different. The 40 drinks are not uncommon, but not all the girls are waiting for that kind of customers only.
All the girls working there do ST. Some of them are picky, but they still do ST with the higher bidders. For example I knew a very pretty girl working in one of those independent bars 6 months ago, and I would give her 2 K each time for ST the first week we've met her. By the second week, she's been spotted by the Korean vloggers, and suddenly all of them were going to see her everyday. That alone brought her a lot of customers who were willing to give her 3 K. The result has been that almost every time I saw her after that, she started putting some drama between us, and wouldn't let me ST her, not because she didn't like me (she even spent one of her days off with me during that time), but because she was reserving herself for these guys giving her more money.
Late October and early November I've met 5 different girls there and fucked them all, many of them did put the emphasize on the fuck part very early in the discussion (they were not interested in drinking). The only negative I saw was the the talent was at it's lowest since covid. There were really very few girls that I would want to fuck at that time, but it seems it got better in December.
Telegram by NWG [URL]https://t.me/s/soi6ladiespattaya[/URL] You can scroll up to January 2, 2026 to see bars and photos posted. The whole purpose is to manage expectations and fit the bill. I wish every bar to succeed.
Japan Salary Man has limits.
My favorite Walking Street girl got a Customer for New Years Eve so she thought.
Until she disclose the Special Pricing. 20 drink minimum. Barfine up to 3,000 or so. Plus her fee.
All in maybe $500.
He Bowed and Declined.
Last night BF was 2,500. I paid it. Sunday back to 2,000.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3045484]What they want and what's happening for real is different. The 40 drinks are not uncommon, but not all the girls are waiting for that kind of customers only.
All the girls working there do ST. Some of them are picky, but they still do ST with the higher bidders. For example I knew a very pretty girl working in one of those independent bars 6 months ago, and I would give her 2 K each time for ST the first week we've met her. By the second week, she's been spotted by the Korean vloggers, and suddenly all of them were going to see her everyday. That alone brought her a lot of customers who were willing to give her 3 K. The result has been that almost every time I saw her after that, she started putting some drama between us, and wouldn't let me ST her, not because she didn't like me (she even spent one of her days off with me during that time), but because she was reserving herself for these guys giving her more money..[/QUOTE]I think 1500 - 2000 baht is reasonable and common. Do people really disagree?
Good place and decent rooms upstairs, would recommend.
[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3045652]I think 1500 - 2000 baht is reasonable and common. Do people really disagree?[/QUOTE]If not, then their minds may change if that exchange rate keeps falling! Hell, it may be even considered to be too high. Shit is starting to happen in Colombia. Minimum wage just got raised 20% plus the exchange rate falling. Now guess where these guys who were throwing around money like it was not real are going to be? Shelling out even more for a product that is getting worse. That is why you have to be careful saying it is "only" this amount and comparing prices to back home. When that pendulum swings the other way things are not going to be so delightful. But you did it to yourself.
I remember first visiting Thailand back in the mid 90's there wasn't a short term it was only long term with the women. The price at the time was $25 or 700 bhat sat the time. That was the same price for a baddie in the streets selling pussy in NYC who didn't smoke crack at the time. When these chicks charge $30 in America the price was matched in Thailand too. I'm not surprised that they want a $100 or 3200 bhat for a short term.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3045289]Soi 6 is vastly overrated it's a tourist trap now dudes always say it's great by saying how many women are on the street. I'm like that's nice but how many are hot and the price is over 100 dollars all in for short time. With drink minimum included with the higher st fee Thai friendly is the better option. I remember when you could just walk in and go straight upstairs now you got to sit and buy drinks hanging out.[/QUOTE]
I remember in the past in Thailand that was very common a young Thai woman move into your hotel or house with you and stay for 1 plus week the only thing you had to do was supply her with food, clothes and a small donation she can send back to her parents. I noticed no one talks about that anymore. I guess that is a thing of the past now. You seem to be a very knowledgeable person is that still common in Thailand or is it rare?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3045370]The past is past.
Soi 6 is not what it used to be. Short Time is becoming rare, in favor of buying bargirls 40 drinks (at least that's what they want).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046335]I remember in the past in Thailand that was very common a young Thai woman move into your hotel or house with you and stay for 1 plus week the only thing you had to do was supply her with food, clothes and a small donation she can send back to her parents. I noticed no one talks about that anymore. I guess that is a thing of the past now. You seem to be a very knowledgeable person is that still common in Thailand or is it rare?[/QUOTE]Very common if you like 50 year olds. The majority of younger chicks only want short time these days.
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046334]I remember first visiting Thailand back in the mid 90's there wasn't a short term it was only long term with the women. The price at the time was $25 or 700 bhat sat the time. That was the same price for a baddie in the streets selling pussy in NYC who didn't smoke crack at the time. When these chicks charge $30 in America the price was matched in Thailand too. I'm not surprised that they want a $100 or 3200 bhat for a short term.[/QUOTE]I know its a long time and memories can get fuzzy but as a NYC connoisseur I cannot recall ever getting a hooker for $25 in the 90's. It was no less than $50 for me back then. The last time I would have paid $25 would have been the early 80's and then the girl or her pimp would have wanted me off her after around 20 minutes.
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046335]I remember in the past in Thailand that was very common a young Thai woman move into your hotel or house with you and stay for 1 plus week the only thing you had to do was supply her with food, clothes and a small donation she can send back to her parents. I noticed no one talks about that anymore. I guess that is a thing of the past now. You seem to be a very knowledgeable person is that still common in Thailand or is it rare?[/QUOTE]I read a lot of trip reports on PA where there are guys who have LLT who stay with them when they visit. Build a relationship with a girl, maintain it, and then maybe next time you visit she will do what you describe.
But as for going right into a LLT with someone. I wouldn't expect many girls to agree. I'd expect them to at least want to know you a little bit before agreeing up front or over an app.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3046478]I read a lot of trip reports on PA where there are guys who have LLT who stay with them when they visit. Build a relationship with a girl, maintain it, and then maybe next time you visit she will do what you describe.
But as for going right into a LLT with someone. I wouldn't expect many girls to agree. I'd expect them to at least want to know you a little bit before agreeing up front or over an app.[/QUOTE]Avoid LT and LLT at all cost, you arent getting better sex, you fuck the same girls every day like if you was at home and you risk to live the worst thing who can happen to you in an open air brothel like Pattaya: falling in love with a prostitute.
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046335]I remember in the past in Thailand that was very common a young Thai woman move into your hotel or house with you and stay for 1 plus week the only thing you had to do was supply her with food, clothes and a small donation she can send back to her parents. I noticed no one talks about that anymore. I guess that is a thing of the past now. You seem to be a very knowledgeable person is that still common in Thailand or is it rare?[/QUOTE]Time to explain the 3 day rule to the newbies here:
Don't barfine a bargirl for more than 3 days.
Why not?
What a bargirl wants is a sucker who will fall in with her, go home, and then send her money (so she can maintain her Thai boyfriend in style). She will know within 3 days if you are a sucker. If she senses you are not going to send her money, every day after day 3 will be torture for both of you.
You can, as an alternative, give her increasing amounts of cash for days after day 3, but that is not a good way to enjoy Pattaya.
For starters what is a PA? I don't understand that abbreviation.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3046478]I read a lot of trip reports on PA where there are guys who have LLT who stay with them when they visit. Build a relationship with a girl, maintain it, and then maybe next time you visit she will do what you describe.
But as for going right into a LLT with someone. I wouldn't expect many girls to agree. I'd expect them to at least want to know you a little bit before agreeing up front or over an app.[/QUOTE]
Listen I live in the greater Seattle area matter fact Shoreline to be exact the infamous Auroa Ave can take me to my house LOL! In Seattle a prostitute can charge you $200 for a BJ and $500 for full service! The truth to the fact of the matter they only do that shit to certain guys in most cases every white, Asian and and Indian dude that window shops. The most I ever got quote out there is $150 on the average $120. Hey I challenge any guy to call a escort in Atlanta. Houston and NYC I bet the charge the same rates. I remember those days now I'm old and I look differently now. But remember your YMMV. I paid $50 before but $25 was the average price I hear guy's talking about $700 hookers in NYC never ran into especially not back in the days.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3046459]I know its a long time and memories can get fuzzy but as a NYC connoisseur I cannot recall ever getting a hooker for $25 in the 90's. It was no less than $50 for me back then. The last time I would have paid $25 would have been the early 80's and then the girl or her pimp would have wanted me off her after around 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Wow I guess there are some guys who'll choose wisdom over a novice. And hey some 50 yr old Thai women do looks good.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3046428]Very common if you like 50 year olds. The majority of younger chicks only want short time these days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046521]For starters what is a PA? I don't understand that abbreviation.[/QUOTE]Pattaya addicts, its different forum.
Ok. Thanks for the timely reply.
[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;3046643]Pattaya addicts, its different forum.[/QUOTE]
This year stay part of my Thailand holiday in Pattaya.
The city was full of tourists, but all the same relaxed. A friend tell was less than other years.
Girls was everywhere as usual, but the best in Soi 6. Young, beauty, fun, with price: 2 k to 3 k for girl around 20 years old, room 400 bath, girls drink around 200 baht.
Other bars have no so beauty girls, with rare exception.
Disco was full, with also girls, but I never tried to pick up. I picked up last summer in disco (3 k, 29 years old beautiful and nice girl).
I have had very nice time with Italian local friends.
I have had an amazing trip by boat in Monkey Island by catamaran. I suggest this trip, you can found on line here:
[URL]https://www.getyourguide.it/pattaya-l182/pattaya-tour-delle-3-isole-in-catamarano-con-pranzo-a-buffet-t586797/?ranking_uuid=cb4f980f-5961-440d-9356-2f75e7c5ad43[/URL]
Only bad report: flight. I slight with Saudia, all right the flight.
But then I would stay in Thailand 1 week more.
I try to change the flight, but they was not available one, in the day I need. NO problem my ticket was an delectable and refundable one.
But: to delete ticket online I need and OTP by SMS. I never got it. I try multiple time, with no SMS. It was not a mobile problem, because I ask to an friend.
From Italy to send an SMS to Italian number and it work properly.
I call Italian Saudia call center, and after some times line go down. I try three times, always problema.
I call international Saudia number, they send me an OTP by SMS. And, anymore, it never arrive. I try twice, never work.
I try with Saudia whatsapp, it just tell me to go to webpage.
I send to Saudia an email, it never work email.
I make a complain. After some hours I get reply: to go to web page!
I try the online cancellation module, it never work and send me to agent.
Agent was IA agent, and it cannot do nothing finally.
So I get the original Saudia plane, because legal redound was impossible. And I have a refundable ticket!
Last August I met a nice lady in Windmill. We became friends, not lovers, and I told her that I was very curious about the life of an agogo dancer.
She now sends me reports on a regular basis.
She just started in Pattaya, to make money for her 3 year old Daughter, because the father, Thai, was on drugs. She is very small, over 30, almost no titties, but she has a nice 'vibe' .
At first she was only accepting drinks, but after one month in the club, she started to go out with clients. But only if they offered her "big money". She is not your typical beauty queen, and she speaks English in a very poor way,. But she gets offers every day for short time, starting from 5 0000 baht. Some guys pay her 10 000 to 15 000 to spend the night. The barfine is 1 500 short time, 3 000 longtime. The salary is very poor, she gets paid around 10 000 per month (because she is absent sometimes, comes in too late, or plays with her phone.).
I was around 15 times in Pattaya since the 90 ies and never paid more than 2 000ST, but nowadays things have changed.
One man booked her for 10 000 for 3 nights, 10 000 per night. Night nr 3 he transferred her 50 K. . Another customer, 60 why. O, German, fat, old, offered her 120 000 for one month; She refused but the man gave her 23 000 for 2 nights.
She gets offers from at least 3 men every day. And they are all prepared to pay 5 000 and up. Some guys take her out, and they are even to drunk to f+++ her.
She makes good money, but her life is very hard. Drunk almost every day, dancing naked on stage in very cold circumstances, talking to at least 5 horny customers per day, working shifts from 20-00 to 04:00 am.
This is so bad for her health, she can never do this more than 6 months. But she makes 150 000 to 200 000 per month easily.
The people that pay her big money are from Germany, Australia, Switzerland, USA, Canada, Korea, Russia and Malaysia. The biggest spenders are from Germany. Young and old, fat and fit.
I hope she can save some money and not spend it on clothes, gold, clubs, family, friends etc. When she goes to her homecountry. She spends 30 000 in 2 days. Thai culture.
Last August I met a nice lady in Windmill. We became friends, not lovers, and I told her that I was very curious about the life of an agogo dancer.
She now sends me reports on a regular basis.
Thank you for an interesting report.
[QUOTE=Lars123;3046914]Last August I met a nice lady in Windmill. We became friends, not lovers, and I told her that I was very curious about the life of an agogo dancer.
She now sends me reports on a regular basis.
She just started in Pattaya, to make money for her 3 year old Daughter, because the father, Thai, was on drugs. She is very small, over 30, almost no titties, but she has a nice 'vibe' .
At first she was only accepting drinks, but after one month in the club, she started to go out with clients. But only if they offered her "big money". She is not your typical beauty queen, and she speaks English in a very poor way,. But she gets offers every day for short time, starting from 5 0000 baht. Some guys pay her 10 000 to 15 000 to spend the night. The barfine is 1 500 short time, 3 000 longtime. The salary is very poor, she gets paid around 10 000 per month (because she is absent sometimes, comes in too late, or plays with her phone.).
I was around 15 times in Pattaya since the 90 ies and never paid more than 2 000ST, but nowadays things have changed.
One man booked her for 10 000 for 3 nights, 10 000 per night. Night nr 3 he transferred her 50 K. . Another customer, 60 why. O, German, fat, old, offered her 120 000 for one month; She refused but the man gave her 23 000 for 2 nights..[/QUOTE]If at least 3 men per day offer her 5000 for Short Time, that's about 450,000 baht per month.
And that's not counting the whales who offer her more.
If a middle-aged lady with no tits can swing that kind of money in Pattaya then I am surprised the 25 year olds with very good bodies, lovely faces and appealing "vibes" in Bangkok only getting 3000 from me for Real Sex or Real Blowjobs aren't abandoning Bangkok to rush down the expressway 2 hours later to Pattaya.
Damn. I hope none of them read these forums.
That Pattaya lady ought to be paying Windmill a serious chunk of money just to hang out there every night rather than worrying about how poorly they pay her to show up whenever she happens to feels like it.
Can we then presume the 22 year old good lookers with fine tits, a winning "vibe" and who dutifully show up on time and every night clear at least 1 million baht per month at Windmill?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046957]If at least 3 men per day offer her 5000 for Short Time, that's about 450,000 baht per month.
And that's not counting the whales who offer her more.
If a middle-aged lady with no tits can swing that kind of money in Pattaya then I am surprised the 25 year olds with very good bodies, lovely faces and appealing "vibes" in Bangkok only getting 3000 from me for Real Sex or Real Blowjobs aren't abandoning Bangkok to rush down the expressway 2 hours later to Pattaya.
Damn. I hope none of them read these forums.
That Pattaya lady ought to be paying Windmill a serious chunk of money just to hang out there every night rather than worrying about how poorly they pay her to show up whenever she happens to feels like it.
Can we then presume the 22 year old good lookers with fine tits, a winning "vibe" and who dutifully show up on time and every night clear at least 1 million baht per month at Windmill?[/QUOTE]You know how it is: when it comes to stories, everyone's a millionaire. Men and women alike. No man is going to tell you, "I lost my job last week and I'm blowing my last dollars in Pattaya. ".
Then this woman probably has guys every few weeks who are actually willing to pay 10,000. And then it's portrayed as if it happens every single night. Days off work or sick days seem to be nonexistent.
One of my friends also knows about a freelancer. She wants to get married. And the guy supposedly sends 60,000 a month. Even when he's not there, the money keeps coming. And he's almost never in Pattaya. But she lives with two other women in a small condo and still goes to the clubs every night (without her husband's knowledge) to work. Stupid. Right? Or just a lie?
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3047003]One of my friends also knows about a freelancer. She wants to get married. And the guy supposedly sends 60,000 a month. Even when he's not there, the money keeps coming. And he's almost never in Pattaya. But she lives with two other women in a small condo and still goes to the clubs every night (without her husband's knowledge) to work. Stupid. Right? Or just a lie?[/QUOTE]Definitely a lie. If someone was sending her that kind of money, she would be back home fulfilling her farming or small store or restaurant dreams. Besides, if some guy is sending her 60,000 baht / month, I doubt she wants to get married. I will even go as far as to say that this small condo does not have A / c.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046957]Can we then presume the 22 year old good lookers with fine tits, a winning "vibe" and who dutifully show up on time and every night clear at least 1 million baht per month at Windmill?[/QUOTE]This made me laugh. I know you're a BKK guy but this clearly shows you've never been to Windmill. Girls looks are not a criteria for Windmill hirings. Skanky finger puppets is the criteria.
I definitely don't see whales lashing out big money at Windmill. When I was there last in November everyone was trying to finger and eat out girls for the price of a beer.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046957]If at least 3 men per day offer her 5000 for Short Time, that's about 450,000 baht per month.
And that's not counting the whales who offer her more.
If a middle-aged lady with no tits can swing that kind of money in Pattaya (...)[/QUOTE]As you stated, there is so much discrepancy in this town. It all depends on how experienced and how willing to save money you are. It's definitely possible to get a great bareback stunner for 2 k ST, or even 1.5k in some cases.
It's also very possible for a middle aged lady that demands a condom even for a BJ to get 5 k. All a matter of where, when and who is paying.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047006]Definitely a lie. If someone was sending her that kind of money, she would be back home fulfilling her farming or small store or restaurant dreams. Besides, if some guy is sending her 60,000 baht / month, I doubt she wants to get married. I will even go as far as to say that this small condo does not have A / c.[/QUOTE]Girls can be extremely stingy with themselves. This girl (non-photoshopped pic below) whom I've paid 4000 for short time for some years now since Covid told me she preferred to sleep with a fan. When asked if she had AC she replied she had but still preferred using the fan, which is not even a ceiling fan, just a crappy pedestal fan. She keeps complaining things are "expensive". God knows how much money she's raking in. Of course I prefer to kid myself I'm one of her very few clients, but am I? Or I am an overpayer and sucker, and you guys get her for 1500, but allow me to doubt that too.
[QUOTE=XXL;3047136]Girls can be extremely stingy with themselves. This girl (non-photoshopped pic below) whom I've paid 4000 for short time for some years now since Covid told me she preferred to sleep with a fan. When asked if she had AC she replied she had but still preferred using the fan, which is not even a ceiling fan, just a crappy pedestal fan. She keeps complaining things are "expensive". God knows how much money she's raking in.[/QUOTE]It's not always about the money.
Many Thais prefer to sleep using the fan instead of aircon, the reason being it is more comfortable. The cost of electricity could be part of the equation too, but not the only factor. Aircons are a bit tricky to adjust, it can get too cold, and then too hot once you adjust the temperature, it can be noisy, or the air flow goes directly to the face and so on.
And don't forget that Thais are better accustomed to the heat than most foreigners are.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046957]If at least 3 men per day offer her 5000 for Short Time, that's about 450,000 baht per month.
And that's not counting the whales who offer her more.
If a middle-aged lady with no tits can swing that kind of money in Pattaya then I am surprised the 25 year olds with very good bodies, lovely faces and appealing "vibes" in Bangkok only getting 3000 from me for Real Sex or Real Blowjobs aren't abandoning Bangkok to rush down the expressway 2 hours later to Pattaya.
Damn. I hope none of them read these forums.
That Pattaya lady ought to be paying Windmill a serious chunk of money just to hang out there every night rather than worrying about how poorly they pay her to show up whenever she happens to feels like it.
Can we then presume the 22 year old good lookers with fine tits, a winning "vibe" and who dutifully show up on time and every night clear at least 1 million baht per month at Windmill?[/QUOTE]I thought the average price was 1500-2000?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047006]Definitely a lie. If someone was sending her that kind of money, she would be back home fulfilling her farming or small store or restaurant dreams. Besides, if some guy is sending her 60,000 baht / month, I doubt she wants to get married. I will even go as far as to say that this small condo does not have A / c.[/QUOTE]I would not try to make a guess on how often that happens, but I wouldn't go and think this is a lie straight forward. I think we've all heard or read reports on these kind of stories multiple times already.
A few years ago I had a good connection with a girl working in Addict massage in Bkk. The girl was good looking, tall, skinny, nice face with a stylish haircut and was easy going. I think she was ranked number 3 in their lineup at that time.
She told me she was receiving 120 K baht every month from an American guy and 30 K from a Japanese guy. When asked why did they do that, she said she does not know and does not understand. Basically the guys didn't ask anything from her (not even to stop working there), but they were expecting her to come and stay with them full time during their visits in Thailand (a few weeks per year for each of them).
[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3047170]I thought the average price was 1500-2000?[/QUOTE]With freelancers, you can expect to pay 1,500-2,000 baht. However, you won't have any luck with that amount in bars and go-go clubs. Even in Soi 6, you'll easily pay 3,000-5,000 baht for a woman, including a room and a few drinks. In go-go clubs, the bar fine is already higher than what you'd pay a freelancer.
[B]1000 - 2000 THB[/B]: Prices you can expect in Gentleman's Clubs, Beer Bars (plus drinks but that is a personal choice) and Massage Parlors.
My experience (actual deals) with girls off of [U]Thai Friendly[/U] is 1000 - 2000 THB. [B]Beach Road[/B]: 1000 - 2000 THB.
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3047208]With freelancers, you can expect to pay 1,500-2,000 baht.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Misterxxx;3047003]You know how it is: when it comes to stories, everyone's a millionaire. Men and women alike. No man is going to tell you, "I lost my job last week and I'm blowing my last dollars in Pattaya. ".
Then this woman probably has guys every few weeks who are actually willing to pay 10,000. And then it's portrayed as if it happens every single night. Days off work or sick days seem to be nonexistent.
One of my friends also knows about a freelancer. She wants to get married. And the guy supposedly sends 60,000 a month. Even when he's not there, the money keeps coming. And he's almost never in Pattaya. But she lives with two other women in a small condo and still goes to the clubs every night (without her husband's knowledge) to work. Stupid. Right? Or just a lie?[/QUOTE]I know a 45 year old freelancer who picks up million baht sponsors. But she blows the money at gogo, nothing saved.
Her latest is some American rich guy who rarely talks to her, but sends big money.
Hey friends. I've got 7-days in Thailand. For my first trip, I do plan on doing touristy stuff in the daytime, but nights will mostly be dedicated to mongering.
I'm reading that Pattaya is where you go to drown in girls; is the mongering experience that different enough to warrant splitting up Bangkok and Pattaya? Or should I be just going all-in on one?
[QUOTE=LundonFrog;3047436]Hey friends. I've got 7-days in Thailand. For my first trip, I do plan on doing touristy stuff in the daytime, but nights will mostly be dedicated to mongering.
I'm reading that Pattaya is where you go to drown in girls; is the mongering experience that different enough to warrant splitting up Bangkok and Pattaya? Or should I be just going all-in on one?[/QUOTE]There is very little "touristy stuff" in Pattaya, so if that's something you are interested in, go to Bangkok! Lots of great food and touristy stuff in Bangkok. It's about 2 hours by car depending on traffic so easy to get from Bangkok to Pattaya. Have fun!
I would strongly suggest Bangkok. I always used to start my day with a blowjob bar around 11 and then go and see the culture of this beautiful country for the rest of the daylight hours. I would get back to the hotel or apt around 7, take a quick nap and then spend the rest of the night, out and about. Get home around 3-4, then repeat.
Nana and Cowboy will provide you with the "drowning in girls" experience. Bangkok also has a lot of more specific parlors for more specific kinks / tastes. It has a lot of culture and a lot of sex. It is a huge city. Eat some of the street food if you like spicy. Explore away from the tourist areas and you will get an interesting view of Thailand. I love it here.
On the other side, Pattaya has zero culture. (my goofy opinion) Everyone is there to make a buck or spend a buck. Cooks, Hotel Staff, Working Girls, they are all from somewhere else. On a longer trip in the future, spend a day or two in Pattaya and you will see what I mean. I travel there occasionally for a really well reviewed PSE provider but I never stay the night. The place reminds me of some summer honky tonk town in the USA.
Have fun. Smile at people, they will return the smile. At least learn Hello, and thank you in Thai. It goes a long way to be respectful here. Wonderful place.
[QUOTE=LundonFrog;3047436]Hey friends. I've got 7-days in Thailand. For my first trip, I do plan on doing touristy stuff in the daytime, but nights will mostly be dedicated to mongering.
I'm reading that Pattaya is where you go to drown in girls; is the mongering experience that different enough to warrant splitting up Bangkok and Pattaya? Or should I be just going all-in on one?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GreenToad;3047459]There is very little "touristy stuff" in Pattaya, so if that's something you are interested in, go to Bangkok! [/QUOTE]Plenty of touristy stuff in Pattaya. I would say even more than Bangkok.
I just got back from a Thailand trip, spending about two weeks in Pattaya in total.
If I only had one week, I'd still go down to Pattaya for two days. Party on Soi 6 and Walking Street, do an island tour during the day, explore the temples, and maybe visit the tiger park (if you're not there for eco-tourism.
Soi 6 and Prices.
I'm personally very picky with girls. I can walk up and down Soi 6 three times before spotting one I actually like out of the thousand that are there. I'm basically looking for a fairly young girl who goes to the gym and preferably hasn't had a baby yet.
Most girls I talked to asked around 2,000 for short time, whether in the bar room or elsewhere. Bar fines on Soi 6 are around 1 k, and room rental is between 300 and 500. If you take the room, you don't pay the bar fine, of course. Long time prices I was quoted were between 3 k and 4 k on Soi 6.
Beach Road and Walking Street.
I walked Beach Road from Soi 6 to Walking Street a few times but didn't see anything of interest, so I never asked prices. I'm sure it hasn't changed much since last time. They usually start at 2 k, which can probably be negotiated a bit.
Walking Street is now crowded with rude Indians walking five abreast and expecting the world to part for them. Yeah, right. Nothing against Indians, but a bit of humility and respect toward others would go a long way. That said, some bars on Walking Street still have amazing lineups.
XS, Windmill, and Kink.
I was at XS during their third anniversary and the lineup was insane, even later at night. Again, very much my type: skinny, young, and fit. I don't care about ass or tit size, but small is better than silicone for me.
Bar fines there were very excessive though. Even late at night they were around 2,000. One cute 19-year-old wanted 4,000 for short time at 2 am And didn't want to budge, so I kindly declined.
Windmill and Kink are still amazing for entertainment. Bar fines and drink prices are very reasonable, all things considered. I'd say Kink had a slightly younger lineup at the moment, but that can change day by day.
A lot of bars on Soi 6 and Walking Street reduce bar fines later in the evening, but the girls are still pricier. Freelancers really start at around 3 k.
Massage Parlors.
I checked out several massage parlors: Honey 3, Honey 2, Honey 1, and Sabai Dee.
At Honey 3 and 2, most of the girls were kind of chubby with big tits. Only the top-tier models were passable for me, but I'm not paying 7,000 for a soapy. Sabai Dee didn't have anything of my liking either. I guess these places now cater mostly to tourist buses, largely full of Indians.
The sweet spot for me was Honey 1. There's no space for buses to arrive there, so the crowd is more varied, and maybe because of that there's more variation in the girls as well.
I once picked a highest-tier girl, which was around 3,400 to 4,000 here versus 7,000 at Honey 3. She had a beautiful, fit body with nice tits. Another time I found a fit girl in the low tier, around 2,400 to 3,000 for a soapy or nuru. Both girls gave amazing massages, and the sex was way above expectation. They were very eager and seemed to enjoy it a lot, as far as I could tell.
Tinder and ThaiFriendly.
Lastly, Tinder and ThaiFriendly girls. I honestly had the most fun here.
Most asked 2,000 for short time. I didn't negotiate with the pretty ones, and it was great to have a daytime "snack" without spending money on drinks. I saw a few girls multiple times, especially if they performed well and didn't care about condoms. I can't have kids and I use PrEP, so no issues there.
One hot 22-year-old spent most of her time partying in clubs. She had a beautiful natural body with amazing be / see-cup tits. The highlight, though, was a girl called Bee from ThaiFriendly. Early 20's, petite, gym body. I instantly had a boner when I opened the door the first time.
She was a bit hard to reach on the phone sometimes. Later I found out she studied in a town nearby and just drove to Pattaya to earn some money. She was definitely a nympho, lots of fun. On the last day she even brought her cousin. Considering how picky I am, I found her pretty cute too. Made them play with each other . Fucked both and managed to make both come. Later she messaged me that her cousin had only had sex with her ex-boyfriend before, but was very happy with the encounter.
Club Pickup.
There was also a funny pickup in one of the nightclubs. We bought three bottles and got a VIP table. I randomly picked a girl who was hanging around and asked her to join us. I'm now 1000% sure that all girls in clubs are also working girls.
We partied for a few hours and she came with me overnight. She didn't ask for anything in the evening, but in the morning she wanted some money. I gave her 3 k. By then I had finished inside her three times 😛. She actually came back twice later for just 1 k, which made it the cheapest fuck I had. I could tell she really liked me. We were both in our 30's, so there was a good match. In the club I would have guessed her mid-20's.
Final Thoughts.
All in all, good weeks. I spent slightly more money than anticipated, mostly on girls who eventually didn't want to come with me. Some claimed to be on their period or never intended to leave the bar.
Some bars on Soi 6 are silly with minimum drink requirements before you can take a girl, on top of the bar fine. I would skip those bars. Nowadays I just ask about the prices during the first drink before continuing.
[QUOTE=GreenToad;3047459]There is very little "touristy stuff" in Pattaya, so if that's something you are interested in, go to Bangkok! Lots of great food and touristy stuff in Bangkok. It's about 2 hours by car depending on traffic so easy to get from Bangkok to Pattaya. Have fun![/QUOTE]That is actually incorrect. There is plenty of touristy things to. In Pattaya. There are now large numbers of tourists who visit for non mongering purposes and there are many activities to do.
As much as we complain that the hot thin 20 year olds that used to be in Pattaya have disappeared, nobody mentions the appearance of silicon enhanced 30 year olds that didn't exist back in the day.
Anyway, I recently had a throwback thin 20 year old in my condo, and she didn't do it for me.
Another newer model is the 30 year old with the artificial face (botox and silicon injections), nose job, white skin, its like they came out of a factory, they all look the same. I see them in China, too.
[QUOTE=Dvil00;3047478]
(...) I'm personally very picky with girls. (...) I'm basically looking for a fairly young girl who goes to the gym (...)[/QUOTE]This is where you undermine yourself. It's VERY rare for Thai bar girls to hit the gym by themselves. Pretty much every girl that looks good and takes the gym serious does it because they have gym freak for a boyfriend that pushed them to do it.
With some luck you will find one that recently broke up with the BF and returned to the bar while she still has the gym body (or even still works out).
The great majority of bar girls just rely on good genetics. There is one in Sandcastle bar called Donut, she is about 30 now and always had this amazing shape. Petite with a nice round ass, flat stomach and a beautiful set of natural tits. And she never set foot on a gym, just pure genetics marvel.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3047610]As much as we complain that the hot thin 20 year olds that used to be in Pattaya have disappeared, nobody mentions the appearance of silicon enhanced 30 year olds that didn't exist back in the day.
Anyway, I recently had a throwback thin 20 year old in my condo, and she didn't do it for me.
Another newer model is the 30 year old with the artificial face (botox and silicon injections), nose job, white skin, its like they came out of a factory, they all look the same. I see them in China, too.[/QUOTE]K Pop and filters have a lot to answer for. Korea has the most surgery per capita on earth and all the girls want to look like their filtered after photos.
[QUOTE=Goferring;3047780]K Pop and filters have a lot to answer for. Korea has the most surgery per capita on earth and all the girls want to look like their filtered after photos.[/QUOTE]You don't see so many of these botox / silicone faces in Pattaya, they are mostly in Bangkok. Here in Macau, I see some among the wealthy Chinese.
I shudder to think what these ladies will look like in 10 years, I don't think those face jobs are designed to last long.
Anyway, it's back to Pattaya tomorrow. Not much time, though, I head for Phu Quoc, Vietnam with 2 ladies soon.
[QUOTE=Dvil00;3047478]I just got back from a Thailand trip, spending about two weeks in Pattaya in total.
If I only had one week, I'd still go down to Pattaya for two days. Party on Soi 6 and Walking Street, do an island tour during the day, explore the temples, and maybe visit the tiger park (if you're not there for eco-tourism.
Soi 6 and Prices.
I'm personally very picky with girls. I can walk up and down Soi 6 three times before spotting one I actually like out of the thousand that are there. I'm basically looking for a fairly young girl who goes to the gym and preferably hasn't had a baby yet.[/QUOTE]Great report. And thanks for the suggestion about splitting up bkk and Pattaya.
I'm also sucker for slim thick gym girls. Was it really that slim pickings for you? There's a few on TF, but it'd be great to find them through other means as well.
[QUOTE=Dvil00;3047478]I just got back from a Thailand trip, spending about two weeks in Pattaya in total.
If I only had one week, I'd still go down to Pattaya for two days. Party on Soi 6 and Walking Street, do an island tour during the day, explore the temples, and maybe visit the tiger park (if you're not there for eco-tourism.
Soi 6 and Prices.
I'm personally very picky with girls. I can walk up and down Soi 6 three times before spotting one I actually like out of the thousand that are there. I'm basically looking for a fairly young girl who goes to the gym and preferably hasn't had a baby yet.
Most girls I talked to asked around 2,000 for short time, whether in the bar room or elsewhere. Bar fines on Soi 6 are around 1 k, and room rental is between 300 and 500. If you take the room, you don't pay the bar fine, of course. Long time prices I was quoted were between 3 k and 4 k on Soi 6.
Beach Road and Walking Street.
I walked Beach Road from Soi 6 to Walking Street a few times but didn't see anything of interest, so I never asked prices. I'm sure it hasn't changed much since last time. They usually start at 2 k, which can probably be negotiated a bit...[/QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for the suggestion on how to split up the days between BKK and Pattaya too.
I'm also a sucker for slim thick gym gals. Was it really slim pickings? I've been bookmarking a few on TF, but it'd be nice if to find them elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3047777]This is where you undermine yourself. It's VERY rare for Thai bar girls to hit the gym by themselves.[/QUOTE]Does he realize how many fitness centers would pop up around this place if bargirls / hookers were going to the gym?
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3047777]Pretty much every girl that looks good and takes the gym serious does it because they have gym freak for a boyfriend that pushed them to do it.[/QUOTE]I would say most Thai chicks who go to the gym these days are doing it under the guise of being a digital creator and it has nothing to do with any boyfriend. Even in the days when I would go to the gyms, the very few chicks that were in there did not have boyfriends.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047893]Does he realize how many fitness centers would pop up around this place if bargirls / hookers were going to the gym?
I would say most Thai chicks who go to the gym these days are doing it under the guise of being a digital creator and it has nothing to do with any boyfriend. Even in the days when I would go to the gyms, the very few chicks that were in there did not have boyfriends.[/QUOTE]I side with you, up until recently I didn't have a clue as to what a digital creator was, but did noticed it with a number of GoGo I've known for a long time.
Although I live on the Darkside, when I first came 20 years ago, I cycle daily far and wide but rarely did I see anyone particularly Thais riding or exercising at a park near my house. But for the last 10 years? Things have changed I see large groups leisure and race teams out in my area, Out on the lake is an exercise path where a large number in the early evening jog or walk, there are business that rent out cycling bikes. There are a number of Thai workout gyms open air now the park near my home morning a large group of women doing Yoga, several large groups of Thais with women working out.
It might not be much to a observer but Thais don't seem to even can or want to walk a block! I recently visit a Thai gym near my home twice a week to use the machine to work on strenghten my legs and there are several ladies there all different age. As for whether they have boyfriends or not I don't put myself out there since I don't know if they are my neighbors or not which I don't it getting back to my wife or son them getting the wrong impression! But the Thai Yoga instruction MIF great body and ass I myself was thinking of joining? LOL.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046957]If at least 3 men per day offer her 5000 for Short Time, that's about 450,000 baht per month.
And that's not counting the whales who offer her more.
If a middle-aged lady with no tits can swing that kind of money in Pattaya then I am surprised the 25 year olds with very good bodies, lovely faces and appealing "vibes" in Bangkok only getting 3000 from me for Real Sex or Real Blowjobs aren't abandoning Bangkok to rush down the expressway 2 hours later to Pattaya.
Damn. I hope none of them read these forums.
That Pattaya lady ought to be paying Windmill a serious chunk of money just to hang out there every night rather than worrying about how poorly they pay her to show up whenever she happens to feels like it.
Can we then presume the 22 year old good lookers with fine tits, a winning "vibe" and who dutifully show up on time and every night clear at least 1 million baht per month at Windmill?[/QUOTE]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3048173]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.[/QUOTE]This is High Season. Some bars, such as Windmill, are jammed with customers, and the ladies are making big money. Of course, their job entails girl-girl shows, getting fingered by customers in public, and lots of Short Time.
In a few months, they will be lucky to get one ST per shift.
Of course, bargirls lie about not having a Thai man, and most throw their earnings at a Thai guy. You would think that the ladies can't go Long Time if they have a Thai man, but its usually no problem, as long as he gets paid.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3048173]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.[/QUOTE]Well he started his post with "if". If "if" was a fifth, then every chick in Pattaya would be drunk and rich. Fortunately for us, "if" does not put 1 baht in their pockets. Chickens that you wish would hatch, can not be counted.
The other night we were in the disco and my brother's best friend was negotiating with a chick. (No idea why they were sitting next to each other writing messages back and forth.) She told him 6000 for 2 days. This is his first time ever in Thailand. He told her he would give her 1500 per day. She accepted. They had a great time together for 1 day. Funny how a guy who just stepped foot in Thailand can do this, but it is like garlic to Dracula for people who have been here for 20 years.
On the flipside, he lives with his girl back home. He told her he was sick in the room, then proceeded to post on facebook himself in the disco with all types of chicks for his girl to see. So his shit will probably be outside on the lawn when he gets back. As easy as it was to negotiate with that chick, it should have been for him to tell his girl he was going out. Lying for nothing. So yesterday he just wants to stay in the house all day. I said shit you have already been busted. Might as well pull out all stops now. No sense in staying in the room sulking and wasting the trip.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3048173]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.[/QUOTE]Why would a girl who can make 5000 in less than an hour give it for 700 to Thai men? Do Thai men feed her some magic potion? These girls do not even do Thai men, except for some "boyfriend" to whom they put out for free (not for puny 700 baht).
Take this girl I was negotiating with yesterday (screenshots below). Tallish, skinny with pinched waist and bubble butt, under 25. When I first contacted her in May 2025 she quoted the following:
2000 covered.
4000 uncovered.
No anal.
No CIM.
I sessioned her back then several times, both for 2000 and for 4000.
This year she only quoted 4000 (see screenshot). I asked her (in Thai) whether this was bareback, to which she replied with an OKAY sticker. This was at 10 am. I told her ok come over then.
She lives close by. Last year she used to show up within half an hour. This time she never showed up. She let me hang. All I got was a "Sorry" at 3 pm. Not "sorry I slept, can I come now? Just "Sorry".
What happened? The likely explanation is not that she ran to a Thai to give it to him for 700. She got hijacked by a better-paying sex tourist for sure. Men must have been hitting upon her in droves right as she messaged me, and one or several of said men made her a better offer. Since she knew me from last year as an unproblematic easy customer who finished the job in less than 40 minutes, I even bet the offers she got were closer to 10000 than to 5000.
[QUOTE=XXL;3048206]Why would a girl who can make 5000 in less than an hour give it for 700 to Thai men? [/QUOTE]Because there is a difference between can and will. Why would McDonald's sell Big Macs for $3 in Thailand when they can sell them for $10 in England? Why do you assume they can not do both?
Hi folks,
Will be back to Pattaya next week after a 10 year or so hiatus for just a few days. I'm traveling through SE Asia and flying back home from BKK. Could use some advise on what area to stay. Will be solo, not really into clubs, more of a beach bar people watching kind of guy. I tend to prefer freelancers and TF to hookup vs formalized gogos or lady bars. I enjoy walking, will walk 5-10 miles a day just exploring areas. Really enjoy good massages, HJ / BJ is the cherry on top but want to get a good massage every day. Maybe twice a day if they don't beat me up too much. Don't mind music everywhere but also not into ear blasting club music. Any advise from the regs would be welcome. Open to other areas as well. Thanks in advance and cheers!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048217]Because there is a difference between can and will. Why would McDonald's sell Big Macs for $3 in Thailand when they can sell them for $10 in England? Why do you assume they can not do both?[/QUOTE]Aside from what you noted, this is my own experience living with Thais, they might say they don't like Thai men even younger ones but being an Asian old school of thinking which is what I encounter everyday living here for 20 years. They want our money but down deep if opportunity arises they rather be with their own kind in general.
Now I don't know if they go from 5000 baht to a Farang to 700 baht for a Thai man, the actually money exchanges but living here on the Darkside, there are a number of huge venue owned and run by the BIB many of the ladies working far exceed what I've seen in town. From what my Thai son quoted it isn't 700 but like 2000 for the whole night. I've taken my cousins to few of these places they drooling soaked once girl finds out we aren't actually Thai the price goes up or they just down want to go but they will sit and drink and serve you.
This is the same reason on the Darkside, a young farm girl will start work in a local place first, they move from a 100% Thai place, to a small bar where old ass farang like me might go, the old guys out here see young fresh meat like the Thai Soi dogs they hit it like no tomorrow, once the girl get use to the money, told they can make more here there they are gone if not sponsor by then. I seen some and know a few stunners invited to parties and met their Thai boyfriend, now I'll be the first to tell you when I looked in the mirrow I'm lucky not to crack it, I'm not Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, but I look better than these guys even at my age! They getting it for free? LOL.
[QUOTE=Wadesi;3048219]Hi folks,
Will be back to Pattaya next week after a 10 year or so hiatus for just a few days. I'm traveling through SE Asia and flying back home from BKK. Could use some advise on what area to stay. Will be solo, not really into clubs, more of a beach bar people watching kind of guy. I tend to prefer freelancers and TF to hookup vs formalized gogos or lady bars. I enjoy walking, will walk 5-10 miles a day just exploring areas. Really enjoy good massages, HJ / BJ is the cherry on top but want to get a good massage every day. Maybe twice a day if they don't beat me up too much. Don't mind music everywhere but also not into ear blasting club music. Any advise from the regs would be welcome. Open to other areas as well. Thanks in advance and cheers![/QUOTE]You can get everything you listed in either location. Jomtien beach is a better beach, but these locations are so close to each other it won't matter, pick one or try both.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3048173]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.[/QUOTE]He was joking. A person with a normal IQ would know that.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;3048173]You seem like some sort of boosting low iq person. Very few people in Pattaya are making that kind of money. This is bullshit.
You just make this shit up so you can ecuse yourself to pay 5000 baht to ladies thai men would pay 700 to.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you got me.
What was it about my post that convinced you I was deadly serious about believing the horseshit that middle-aged no tits lady was laying on that guy about how many 5000 baht offers she gets every night at Windmill? Was it the part where I said, "That Pattaya lady ought to be paying Windmill a serious chunk of money just to hang out there every night rather than worrying about how poorly they pay her to show up whenever she happens to feels like it" that you quoted or the part where I hoped the hot 25 year olds I know in Bangkok don't read these threads and rush down to Pattaya where middle aged no tits ladies are making big bucks every night?
It's rare that we get someone so preceptive here on these forums. You should write a book.
[QUOTE=XXL;3048206]Why would a girl who can make 5000 in less than an hour give it for 700 to Thai men? Do Thai men feed her some magic potion? These girls do not even do Thai men, except for some "boyfriend" to whom they put out for free (not for puny 700 baht).
Take this girl I was negotiating with yesterday (screenshots below). Tallish, skinny with pinched waist and bubble butt, under 25. When I first contacted her in May 2025 she quoted the following:
2000 covered.
4000 uncovered.
No anal.
No CIM.
I sessioned her back then several times, both for 2000 and for 4000.
This year she only quoted 4000 (see screenshot). I asked her (in Thai) whether this was bareback, to which she replied with an OKAY sticker. This was at 10 am. I told her ok come over then..[/QUOTE]Yeah, its High Season, so trying to arrange a "date" with a lady in advance is problematic. She might find a customer at ridiculous prices, and take off. One reason why High Season sucks for ex-pats in Pattaya. I usually travel abroad for a couple of months until there aren't so many customers. I'm currently in a Vietnam-Singapore-Kazakhstan-Turkiye-Brazil marathon.
As for the infamous 700 baht price for Thai men, it's not real. The Thai sex scene is very different from the Farang scene. There isn't Short Time as we know it. Because so many ladies in Pattaya don't want to go with Farangs, they can work in a Thai bar where there is no barfine, they get paid for drinks. If they meet a guy they like, they will arrange for a date in a day or two. If that works out, she will stop work, and hook up with the guy, and get some day job. Of course, the guy is going to be recently arrived in Pattaya and may have a wife back home.
Just returned from a short trip to Pattaya. I stayed closed to Walking street in a guest friendly hotel.
Every night after 9:30 PM, ladies used to lineup in front of our hotel and nearby area. Those were average looking girls and price for ST was 1000 thb.
I took one of those for 1000 thb and had good time. (uncovered BJ followed by a boom-boom).
In the day time (for next few days), I used to walk around the area and look for the pretty ladies in massage shops (I kind a like ladies in early 30's).
Price for thai massage in the shop is 300 thb for an hour. But if you call the lady to your hotel for massage, it will cost you 500 thb for an hour.
I called multiple such ladies to my hotel during my trip and had good time (CIM, boom-boom, B2 B oil massage etc.). I go to shop and ask the lady of my choice to come to my hotel.
Price for BJ / boom-boom I was asked from those ladies was 1000 to 1500. So, in total it will cost you around 1500 to 2000 (massage fee 500 + 1000/1500 for the lady).
Catch. Some massage ladies may not be ready to do uncovered BJ.
Thai friendly. This time I could not find girls of my liking there. I only called 1 lady twice for CIM.
Price - 2000 thb.
Generally, girls from thai friendly will ask in a range 1500 to 2000. One even asked for 2500. I tried to negotiate for 2000, but then she said pay my taxi fair. I did not proceed.
Non Thai ladies. I found some non-thai ladies standing outside the Marine plaza hotel. Upon checking, I found they were from Morocco, Russia and Uzbekistan.
Took morroco lady (good face as per my liking) for 2000 thb short time. Her figure was good, but I was disappointed once the clothes were off. She has a surgery marks all around her waist. Upon asking she told that.
She had a fat removing surgery or something. Anyways boom-boom was good.
Next day took Russian lady for 2500 thb for ST. She was good. Nice body, no fat, great figure. Tried different positions. Had good time with her.
Both Morocco and Russian lady did covered BJ. To be honest, they cleared it in the negotiation phase that they will do only covered BJ and covered boom-boom.
That was a quick summary of my trip to Pattaya city. The city that we love.
Can someone who has stayed at mera mare pattaya confirm if they allow bring girls less than 20 yrs. Is there anyway to bypass it? Like in Amber you can take the elevator from parking directly to your floor.
Is there a equivalent of "FiwFans" or similar to this for Pattaya?
[URL]https://fan4you.nl/[/URL]
On that site I managed to find a couple a few good deals and prices. One even took me to.
[URL]https://t.me/[/URL]+ztYdYqGcA4 ozMDE1.
Only about 2 of the ladies there looked like the ad, but they were still were ranging from good looking to hot, though they many used "east asian" filters to like like kpop women. But most of all their prices were better, however it was in Bangkok.
Is there something similar in Pattaya?
Also is there rental girlfriends or something similar to "seeking" app service in Pattaya or Bangkok?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Wadesi;3048219]Hi folks,
Will be back to Pattaya next week after a 10 year or so hiatus for just a few days. I'm traveling through SE Asia and flying back home from BKK. Could use some advise on what area to stay. Will be solo, not really into clubs, more of a beach bar people watching kind of guy. I tend to prefer freelancers and TF to hookup vs formalized gogos or lady bars. I enjoy walking, will walk 5-10 miles a day just exploring areas. Really enjoy good massages, HJ / BJ is the cherry on top but want to get a good massage every day. Maybe twice a day if they don't beat me up too much. Don't mind music everywhere but also not into ear blasting club music. Any advise from the regs would be welcome. Open to other areas as well. Thanks in advance and cheers![/QUOTE]I prefer to stay near the Soi Buakhao / Soi Diana intersection. I enjoy LK Metro, Soi Chiyapoon, Soi Boomerang, etc much more than Walking Street and Soi 6. Last time I was there I stayed in Sutus Court 4, which I found to be comfortable and affordable. I like a little slower paced environment.
Gentlemen -.
Is this feasable? Are there quiet Internet cafes where you can do work, or which hotels have good lobbies or business centers? Or, based on your experience, are the temptations of drink and women too strong to be able to concentrate for a couple of hours? I'm contemplating a trip there where I may stay officially on the clock. The other requirement is a reliable, fast Internet connection for Teams calls.
Thanks in advance for any tips or experience.
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;3048895]Are there quiet Internet cafes where you can do work,[/QUOTE]Internet cafes? It is 2026. Everyone has internet in their hand these days. And damn near any place you go has wifi.
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;3048895]Are there quiet Internet cafes where you can do work, or which hotels have good lobbies or business centers? Or, based on your experience, are the temptations of drink and women too strong to be able to concentrate for a couple of hours? I'm contemplating a trip there where I may stay officially on the clock. The other requirement is a reliable, fast Internet connection for Teams calls.[/QUOTE]Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, especially at the establishments in the central part of town favored by falang tourists. You can also get a Thai SIM card for your phone and use 5G to work on your phone, or to use it as a hot spot. In light of all that connectivity in ordinary shops fewer hotels these days offer an old-fashioned business center. Perhaps if you pay big money to lodge at the Hilton or another luxe property.
So if your work involves sending or receiving emails via commercial providers like Gmail you'll be fine. Connecting from Pattaya to your employer's system is trickier. Lots of corporations are hinky about any packets that come from an IP address in another country. You may get blocked. Your employer may learn your location.
For online meetings using Teams and the like you'll need more than just bandwidth. You'll need RELIABLE bandwidth PLUS a quiet environment. There are a handful of WeWork-type remote working spots, but I've never used them. Suggestion: Rent a condo with a solid fiber optic internet connection.
As for resisting the tempting places that cater to naughty boys, only you can honestly evaluate your will power and dedication to your job.
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;3048895]Gentlemen -.
Is this feasable? Are there quiet Internet cafes where you can do work, or which hotels have good lobbies or business centers? Or, based on your experience, are the temptations of drink and women too strong to be able to concentrate for a couple of hours? I'm contemplating a trip there where I may stay officially on the clock. The other requirement is a reliable, fast Internet connection for Teams calls.
Thanks in advance for any tips or experience.[/QUOTE]Be sure to consider timer zone differences. If your team is US based, afternoon calls become 2 am calls when you're in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;3048895]Gentlemen -.
Is this feasable? Are there quiet Internet cafes where you can do work, or which hotels have good lobbies or business centers? Or, based on your experience, are the temptations of drink and women too strong to be able to concentrate for a couple of hours? I'm contemplating a trip there where I may stay officially on the clock. The other requirement is a reliable, fast Internet connection for Teams calls.
Thanks in advance for any tips or experience.[/QUOTE]Just get a nice condo, (2000-2500 Baht a night) say View Talay 6 or one of many others.
The places I stay have Uber fast solid room Wi-Fi, 20 plus floors up so it's nice and quiet, have some kind of desk / chair set up and a kitchen table and chairs, decent facilities, kitchen, bathroom, AC etc and with a great view of the sea.
Then when you're done, you're a 10 min walk from bars / all action or even closer (if at view Talay 6) to a selection of Beach Rd princesses or close to many Thai Friendly princesses who will come to you.
You can't go wrong. Good luck.
[QUOTE=JamesBondAjay;3048822]Just returned from a short trip to Pattaya. I stayed closed to Walking street in a guest friendly hotel.
Every night after 9:30 PM, ladies used to lineup in front of our hotel and nearby area. Those were average looking girls and price for ST was 1000 thb.
I took one of those for 1000 thb and had good time. (uncovered BJ followed by a boom-boom).
In the day time (for next few days), I used to walk around the area and look for the pretty ladies in massage shops (I kind a like ladies in early 30's).
Price for thai massage in the shop is 300 thb for an hour. But if you call the lady to your hotel for massage, it will cost you 500 thb for an hour.
I called multiple such ladies to my hotel during my trip and had good time (CIM, boom-boom, B2 B oil massage etc.). I go to shop and ask the lady of my choice to come to my hotel..[/QUOTE]It's nice to hear some different reports, I'm surprised you didn't find much on TF as there seems to be every possible option on there when I look which is daily.
Main problem is until you meet you don't know if she'll do ya head in, speak any English (I speak basic Thai so that's not an issue) or even look like the profile photo, I've had a few where they must have eaten 3 McDonald's meals and 7 bowls of ice cream every day since the photo was taken.
Good thing about meeting first in person is you get a vibe (good or bad) immediately and what you see is what you get.
It's all part of the fun though, be boring if it was like clockwork every time.
[QUOTE=Bunky;3048915]You can also get a Thai SIM card for your phone and use 5G to work on your phone, [/QUOTE]Thailand does not have 5 G.
[QUOTE=Bunky;3048915]...
So if your work involves sending or receiving emails via commercial providers like Gmail you'll be fine. Connecting from Pattaya to your employer's system is trickier. Lots of corporations are hinky about any packets that come from an IP address in another country. You may get blocked. Your employer may learn your location.
...[/QUOTE]I think ExpressVPN offer a plan to work around that. This is from Grok AI: "The dedicated IP address offered by ExpressVPN Pro is a unique, static IPv4 address assigned exclusively to you as a subscriber, tied to a specific VPN server location (such as Sydney, Australia; Toronto, Canada; or New York, USA). Unlike standard shared VPN IPs that rotate among multiple users, this IP remains the same every time you connect to that location, providing a consistent online identity while maintaining full VPN encryption and privacy. ".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048949]Thailand does not have 5 G.[/QUOTE]In the past I bought the fastest AIS plan. In a few locations, my cell phone indicated 5 G service, but mostly I got 4 G service. Since that time I've switched to a slower AIS plan to save a boatload of baht. The new plan normally comes up on my cell as 4 G and that's plenty fast for me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048949]Thailand does not have 5 G.[/QUOTE]Are you joking? If you have a 5 G capable smartphone, you may need to ajust the setting. On android go to "Connextions. Mobile Networks":
Preferred network type, choose 5 G / LTE /3 G /2 G (auto connect) or 5 G auto, avoid options like "LTE only".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048949]Thailand does not have 5 G.[/QUOTE]Like me, you probably have a 4 G phone, no 5 G support in HW.
Both TRUE / DTAC and AIS have 5 G, coverage in most urban areas across the country though still sure spotty. For a Joe Average user 5 G won't provide any real benefit yet.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;3049006]Like me, you probably have a 4 G phone, no 5 G support in HW.
Both TRUE / DTAC and AIS have 5 G, coverage in most urban areas across the country though still sure spotty. For a Joe Average user 5 G won't provide any real benefit yet.[/QUOTE]Nope. My phone is a flagship Samsung from the States. 5 G phones are not common in Thailand. Most are 4 G. You can get a 5 G phone (some models come in 4 G and 5 G version, with the 5 G costing more) but you will be wasting your money because you will not have authentic 5 G speed.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3048990]In the past I bought the fastest AIS plan. In a few locations, my cell phone indicated 5 G service, but mostly I got 4 G service. Since that time I've switched to a slower AIS plan to save a boatload of baht. The new plan normally comes up on my cell as 4 G and that's plenty fast for me.[/QUOTE]I used to get the 2500 baht / year plan (4 Mbps). This go round I stepped it up to the top of the line 3500 baht / year plan (6 Mbps). It is no faster. So when it comes time to re-up in August, I will go back to the 4 Mbps plan.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048949]Thailand does not have 5 G.[/QUOTE]This is an easily proven incorrect statement. AI says the following:
Thailand boasts one of Southeast Asia's most advanced 5 G networks, with coverage exceeding 80% of the population as of late 2023, largely driven by major providers AIS, TrueMove H, and DTAC. The country leads in 5 G adoption, with high usage in video streaming and digital payments, supported by both 5 G Non-Standalone (NSA) and increasingly 5 G Standalone (SA) services for lower latency.
[QUOTE=ThaiStyle;3048927]Just get a nice condo, (2000-2500 Baht a night) say View Talay 6 or one of many others.
The places I stay have Uber fast solid room Wi-Fi, 20 plus floors up so it's nice and quiet, have some kind of desk / chair set up and a kitchen table and chairs, decent facilities, kitchen, bathroom, AC etc and with a great view of the sea.
Then when you're done, you're a 10 min walk from bars / all action or even closer (if at view Talay 6) to a selection of Beach Rd princesses or close to many Thai Friendly princesses who will come to you.
You can't go wrong. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for your replies. I implied that I planned to surreptitiously work from Pattaya, which is not the case. I just want to find a quiet place with good enough connection speed for a Teams call. I mentioned Internet cafes because it gets boring working from home or a hotel room, so I like places with others around like co-working cafes.
I have a high end, unlocked Samsung phone. I also get the 4 mpbs speed 30 day plan from AIS. This costs 50% less than an AIS 5 G plan and is just as fast. I recall getting a 5 G signal now and then but it isn't faster than the 4 mbps signal. I find Thailand's 4 G to be very fast. As fast as the signal I get in the USA most of the time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049037]Nope. My phone is a flagship Samsung from the States. 5 G phones are not common in Thailand. Most are 4 G. You can get a 5 G phone (some models come in 4 G and 5 G version, with the 5 G costing more) but you will be wasting your money because you will not have authentic 5 G speed.
I used to get the 2500 baht / year plan (4 Mbps). This go round I stepped it up to the top of the line 3500 baht / year plan (6 Mbps). It is no faster. So when it comes time to re-up in August, I will go back to the 4 Mbps plan.[/QUOTE]If your phone settings have 5 G enabled, then your AIS plan must be such that it does not allow 5 G signal usage, only 4 G and lower regardless your phone supporting and the area where you are having 5 G signal on air. That would explain why you never see 5 G on your icons. I also have such plan for my home country SIM, due to lower price and no benefit to me from higher priced 5 G plans.
[QUOTE=Allover;3049098]I have a high end, unlocked Samsung phone. I also get the 4 mpbs speed 30 day plan from AIS. This costs 50% less than an AIS 5 G plan and is just as fast. I recall getting a 5 G signal now and then but it isn't faster than the 4 mbps signal. I find Thailand's 4 G to be very fast. As fast as the signal I get in the USA most of the time.[/QUOTE]Does not matter if your phone connects to network with 4 G or 5 G if you have a plan that is throttled to 4 Mbps or have 5 G access disabled. For Joe Average users 4 G speed is usually more than enough also as home internet access as long as you stay out of 4 K videos. Sure if you play some games online requiring high speed and esp low latency, you need fibre or 5 G cellular connection.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049037]Nope. My phone is a flagship Samsung from the States.[/QUOTE]Another possible reason for you not seeing 5G in Thailand is that your US 5G phone might not have support for the 5G bands used in Thailand.
At least in early days of 5G this was the case as 5G has different frequencies used in different countries, and not all devices supported all bands, rather had different version sold in different markets with different radio support. I guess Thailand uses the 2600, 2100 and 700 bands as they largely follow the European frequency allocations for cellular, US has different. Nowadays I guess less of an issue for new devices as I would guess they have wider radio support, but still might be limited at least with some models.
Hi Happy Mongerers.
I am solo travelling to pattaya on Feb 2nd week for 5 days first time. I am going thru lot of posts in this forum to be well equipped.
Appreciate the effort put by each of you in this forum to support each other.
I will be exploring everything. Request pointers / contacts of good gfes, massage centers in your radar.
I will be posting my experience soon.
[QUOTE=Pratyu123;3049223]Hi Happy Mongerers.
I am solo travelling to pattaya on Feb 2nd week for 5 days first time. I am going thru lot of posts in this forum to be well equipped.
Appreciate the effort put by each of you in this forum to support each other.
I will be exploring everything. Request pointers / contacts of good gfes, massage centers in your radar.
I will be posting my experience soon.[/QUOTE]If you want great service, let the girl pick you.
If you want a looker and can look beyond performance in bed, pick who appeals to you. Expect to pay more, if the girl doesn't like or doesn't want you.
Going to make my 6th trip to Thailand in Aug. 2 bkk 2 Pattaya. 1 split between both. Pattaya wins for me because of beach!! Great pussy in both.
Unfortunately this year I have to be in Hua Hin if I come. I reckon 4 day. Have 4 days in hand and wondering what the experienced guys say.
All in Hua Hin? Is it worth it? Not too fussy on pussy price but prefer quality and variety to choose. And it should be easy. No a military drill. I prefer to do it my hotel and not bars!
Can either head back to bkk for 3-4 days. Or to Pattaya. Beach and vibe wins.
Searched some on TF. Slim options on Hua Hin compared to Pattaya. Same ISG forum on HH seems a little "dry".
What do the experienced ones recommend. HH or split HH and Pattaya?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=NemanLion;3049255]Going to make my 6th trip to Thailand in Aug. 2 bkk 2 Pattaya. 1 split between both. Pattaya wins for me because of beach!! Great pussy in both.
Unfortunately this year I have to be in Hua Hin if I come. I reckon 4 day. Have 4 days in hand and wondering what the experienced guys say.
All in Hua Hin? Is it worth it? Not too fussy on pussy price but prefer quality and variety to choose. And it should be easy. No a military drill. I prefer to do it my hotel and not bars!
Can either head back to bkk for 3-4 days. Or to Pattaya. Beach and vibe wins.
Searched some on TF. Slim options on Hua Hin compared to Pattaya. Same ISG forum on HH seems a little "dry".
What do the experienced ones recommend. HH or split HH and Pattaya?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was in Hua Hin 3 years ago. Totally dead. Ended up having an African girl over from Bangkok.
[QUOTE=NemanLion;3049255]Going to make my 6th trip to Thailand in Aug. 2 bkk 2 Pattaya. 1 split between both. Pattaya wins for me because of beach!! Great pussy in both.
Unfortunately this year I have to be in Hua Hin if I come. I reckon 4 day. Have 4 days in hand and wondering what the experienced guys say.
All in Hua Hin? Is it worth it? Not too fussy on pussy price but prefer quality and variety to choose. And it should be easy. No a military drill. I prefer to do it my hotel and not bars!
Can either head back to bkk for 3-4 days. Or to Pattaya. Beach and vibe wins.
Searched some on TF. Slim options on Hua Hin compared to Pattaya. Same ISG forum on HH seems a little "dry".
What do the experienced ones recommend. HH or split HH and Pattaya?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hua Hin has a nice beach too. The trip from Hua Hin to Pattaya will eat up a day. Since you said you have to be in Hua Hin first I would just go to Bangkok and stay there for the few days until you leave. I have never used Thai Friendly in Hua Hin so can't help you there. There are a few cuties in Hua Hin. Just walk down one of the three bar streets, Bentabaht, Soi 80, or Soi 94 and if you see a cutie ask her if she barfines. Another tactic is find a bar with expats and ask them where to find cuties.
I landed in bkk yesterday, came directly to Pattaya. This place is nuts! I read up on reports here and the Thai friendly thread. And went through newbie guides posted on that thread too.
Never has it been this easier to get a girl. Moment after my location updated to Pattaya I started getting bombarded with notifications. Had to turn them off. Pulled two off the app yesterday. A 20 something and one in her 30's. Will make another post after my travel ends.
Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who reports here.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3049233]If you want great service, let the girl pick you.
If you want a looker and can look beyond performance in bed, pick who appeals to you. Expect to pay more, if the girl doesn't like or doesn't want you.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Thanks.
I guess most of the girsl hanging on beach road would also be on TF as most of them are seen messaging on their mobile phones all the time. So surely there are common ones on both sites.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3047232][B]1000 - 2000 THB[/B]: Prices you can expect in Gentleman's Clubs, Beer Bars (plus drinks but that is a personal choice) and Massage Parlors.
My experience (actual deals) with girls off of [U]Thai Friendly[/U] is 1000 - 2000 THB. [B]Beach Road[/B]: 1000 - 2000 THB.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;3049322]Hua Hin has a nice beach too. The trip from Hua Hin to Pattaya will eat up a day.[/QUOTE]It takes 4 hours to drive from Hua Hin to Pattaya. You just leave at 7 or 8 am. Nothing going on in Pattaya that early anyway. The beach must have changed since I was there last. It was nothing to write home about. I even drove to Prachup Khiri Khan (picture without rocks. Reason I went in the first place because the beach is supposed to be nice) and nothing special.
[QUOTE=NemanLion;3049255]Going to make my 6th trip to Thailand in Aug. 2 bkk 2 Pattaya. 1 split between both. Pattaya wins for me because of beach!! Great pussy in both.
Unfortunately this year I have to be in Hua Hin if I come. I reckon 4 day. Have 4 days in hand and wondering what the experienced guys say.
All in Hua Hin? Is it worth it? Not too fussy on pussy price but prefer quality and variety to choose. And it should be easy. No a military drill. I prefer to do it my hotel and not bars!
Can either head back to bkk for 3-4 days. Or to Pattaya. Beach and vibe wins.
Searched some on TF. Slim options on Hua Hin compared to Pattaya. Same ISG forum on HH seems a little "dry".
What do the experienced ones recommend. HH or split HH and Pattaya?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If mongering has any importance, I would minimize time spent in Hua Hin. Supply is far less and also quality lower. If you must go there or want to go there just to see the place, exception might be that during your mandatory stay you would bump to a keeper to stay with the whole time, however odds are low. HH is a retirement destinatin for elderly scandinavians and holiday destination for families. both Thai and foreign, not a mongering place. And the beach is nothing to write home about, way overrated in tourism marketing. It's an okay place as a stopover for 1 or 2 nights, that's it.
[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;3049078]I just want to find a quiet place with good enough connection speed for a Teams call. I mentioned Internet cafes because it gets boring working from home or a hotel room, so I like places with others around like co-working cafes.[/QUOTE]Pattaya has numerous places where you can nurse a nam soda while watching the world go by and being online via wi-fi or cell service. Microsoft Co-Pilot says you'll probably need 5-10 megabits down and 2-5 up for a standard Teams meeting, which doesn't seem like a heavy lift even via 4G. But now that everybody is addicted to short-form videos from TikTok and the like, you may find yourself in a bar or restaurant or coffee shop filled with zombified bandwidth hogs who max out the wi-fi connection.
Another issue, it seems to me, relates to etiquette. In a public place surrounded by other patrons I think it's rude to listen to audio of any kind played from the speakers on a phone, tablet or laptop. You can avoid that by using earbuds or a headset (which also makes it easier to hear the audio). But if the Team call requires you to address the group you're going to annoy the folks at the next table prattling on about the deliverables, or the metrics, or whatever hooey gets discussed on Team calls.
I too get bored working in my home office or a hotel room. So I'm all about the "third place" in my home town and while traveling. But when I'm in a public place I go out of my way to be considerate of other customers. In Pattaya it may take some trial and error to find a good spot, especially if you need to work remotely after sundown. You'll probably have better luck on the east side of Soi Buakhao, or even up and down Third Road.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;3049460]If mongering has any importance, I would minimize time spent in Hua Hin. Supply is far less and also quality lower. If you must go there or want to go there just to see the place, exception might be that during your mandatory stay you would bump to a keeper to stay with the whole time, however odds are low. HH is a retirement destinatin for elderly scandinavians and holiday destination for families. both Thai and foreign, not a mongering place. And the beach is nothing to write home about, way overrated in tourism marketing. It's an okay place as a stopover for 1 or 2 nights, that's it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, me thinks that's what I needed to hear. Will get in and out of Hua hin. And just soldier it to Pattaya after!
[QUOTE=Knobrm;3049460]... And the beach is nothing to write home about, way overrated in tourism marketing. It's an okay place as a stopover for 1 or 2 nights, that's it.[/QUOTE]The beach is bleak, wind-swept, and jelly fish are common.
There's a big expressway without pedrestrian crossing running paralell to the beach so you're trapped on the strip of land between that expressway and the beach. Western food restaurants are overcrowded, expensive and poor quality, even by Thailand's low Western food standards. Is there even a fruit market? I remember walking far before I could find an overpriced dragon fruit to buy. To me Hua Hin was be the most overrated tourist trap I ever came across in Thailand (I was neither in Pukhet nor Koh Pipi though).
Mongering opportunities are no better than on Koh Chang, which says a lot. If you want to monger away from trodden paths, cities like Hat Yai or Betong are way more interesting.
[QUOTE=ChoduMadan;3049372]I guess most of the girsl hanging on beach road would also be on TF as most of them are seen messaging on their mobile phones all the time. So surely there are common ones on both sites.[/QUOTE]So you assume the only thing a chick on Beach Road can be doing with her phone is messaging on Thai Friendly? That is like people assuming that if your phone is in your hand then you must be reading on ISG.
[QUOTE=Bunky;3049465]But now that everybody is addicted to short-form videos from TikTok...Another issue, it seems to me, relates to etiquette. In a public place surrounded by other patrons I think it's rude to listen to audio of any kind played from the speakers on a phone, tablet or laptop. You can avoid that by using earbuds or a headset (which also makes it easier to hear the audio).[/QUOTE]Definitely one of my top pet peeves. But too many morons (including chicks I am at times with) go on in public with this shit like they are in the confines of their own homes.
So many gifts invented that have turned out to be curses. I remember when facebook started and was solely a networking tool for university students. Now it is a place for the average uneducated person to re-post anything else they come across on the internet on a daily basis in a "look what I saw" fashion.
[QUOTE=XXL;3049521]There's a big expressway without pedrestrian crossing running paralell to the beach so you're trapped on the strip of land between that expressway and the beach.[/QUOTE]Well I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Yes Phetkasem is runs thru the town like old highways do in thai towns. I never thought it as difficult to get over though. And if you only stay for few days, you actually don't need to. But yes supply of pretty much everything is less than Pattaya and prices a bit higher too.
OP if you need an affordable hotel with good location and excellent beds, can warmly recommend Chalelarn hotel, stayed there few times on way to south.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049530]Definitely one of my top pet peeves. But too many morons (including chicks I am at times with) go on in public with this shit like they are in the confines of their own homes.
So many gifts invented that have turned out to be curses. I remember when facebook started and was solely a networking tool for university students. Now it is a place for the average uneducated person to re-post anything else they come across on the internet on a daily basis in a "look what I saw" fashion.[/QUOTE]Until now I never thought about it, I have a bit of hearing problem from my former work. When I do go eat in town it is normally loud conversation that I can barely hear what I'm watching add that with my hearing problem I got it near full volume. Going to stop by DIY and pick up a pair of buds.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049388]It takes 4 hours to drive from Hua Hin to Pattaya. You just leave at 7 or 8 am. Nothing going on in Pattaya that early anyway. The beach must have changed since I was there last. It was nothing to write home about. I even drove to Prachup Khiri Khan (picture without rocks. Reason I went in the first place because the beach is supposed to be nice) and nothing special.[/QUOTE]As beaches go Hua Hin is nothing special in the main drag strip area from the pier down past the Hilton, but it is far better than the shitty (in all senses of the word) Pattaya beaches.
The better Hua Hin beaches are to the south, around 3-10 kms out from central Hua Hin.
As to punting / mongering in Hua Hin, it is less volume (number and quality), so yes less choice, and it is most definitely of a more relaxed style in most bars / locations.
If you're looking to take back to your room, or call to come to your room, to bang and send away, well that's Pattaya TF style, and is not the norm at all in Hua Hin.
Hua Hin is walk the bars, have drinks, without being fleeced, engage, relax, chill, do short time there, or back to your room if close by.
Or as is the more common way, pick a take away lady for the night, drink some more in her bar, then bar hop or eat a little around night market, even extend the evening around Polo Club / Sam's Bar before back for an overnight at your hotel. All done very relaxed and somewhat cheaply, and importantly without the Pattaya normal fear that the girl will do a late night or early morning one pop runner.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3048990]In the past I bought the fastest AIS plan. In a few locations, my cell phone indicated 5 G service, but mostly I got 4 G service. Since that time I've switched to a slower AIS plan to save a boatload of baht. The new plan normally comes up on my cell as 4 G and that's plenty fast for me.[/QUOTE]The funny shit is that I just switched to my USA T-mobile eSIM and it shows 5 G and speedtests at 179 Mbps, more than 7 times faster than my Thailand AIS eSIM that only shows 4 G at 23 Mbps. Wow.
Lots of writing about various sex shows that has started in Pattaya after Covid, would be interesting to hear if anyone have been and what the think. Is it worth going?
Cheers.
Be.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3049233]If you want great service, let the girl pick you.
If you want a looker and can look beyond performance in bed, pick who appeals to you. Expect to pay more, if the girl doesn't like or doesn't want you.[/QUOTE]This small piece of advice can not be said anymore clearly. After a few years in the hobby, I don't even entertain the thought of taking a 8-10 that doesn't seem interested. After a half a dozen terrible performers, I have written off super hot ladies that don't pass the vibe check. A decent looking 5-7 that is super interested and aims to please with outstanding service is the fucking way to go mates.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049738]The funny shit is that I just switched to my USA T-mobile eSIM and it shows 5 G and speedtests at 179 Mbps, more than 7 times faster than my Thailand AIS eSIM that only shows 4 G at 23 Mbps. Wow.[/QUOTE]Back when I used to buy the fastest AIS plan, I did it to stream IPTV programming using my smartphone's hotspot for WiFi. Sometimes it worked, but more typically it had too many interruptions to be usable. I did speed tests many times when my smartphone indicated 5G, but never did I see anything remotely close to the 179 Mbps that you got. More typically I got 10-25 Mbps. Now that I've switched to a slower AIS package, I have not repeated the speed tests. But it has been plenty fast for everything that I've wanted to do, including video chats, email, surfing the net, and YouTube videos. I have neither tried IPTV nor upload/download large files that might be necessary for punters to work remote.
That 402 ms ping time seems long to me, with AIS 5G I was down around 20 ms. I don't know what that would affect, perhaps games, which I dont do.
I’m in USA now and my smartphone shows 5G. For comparison, now speed test shows 250 Mbps download, 1.9 Mbps upload, and 3 ms latency.
[QUOTE=Belsie;3049762]Lots of writing about various sex shows that has started in Pattaya after Covid, would be interesting to hear if anyone have been and what the think. Is it worth going?
[/QUOTE]Can you define what a sex show would be?
A girl dancing holding a pole?
A naked girl discretely dancing on stage?
A naked girl on stage playing and let customer play with her holes?
A girl sticking objects in her pussy?
A couple having sex on stage?
The first 4 you can find in various gogos depending on what you want. Ping pong shows are still a thing. But this goes way before covid as well, even more so actually.
The last one I don't think so, it would cause too much trouble if (when) it got caught.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3049908]Can you define what a sex show would be?
A girl dancing holding a pole?
A naked girl discretely dancing on stage?
A naked girl on stage playing and let customer play with her holes?
A girl sticking objects in her pussy?
A couple having sex on stage?
The first 4 you can find in various gogos depending on what you want. Ping pong shows are still a thing. But this goes way before covid as well, even more so actually.
The last one I don't think so, it would cause too much trouble if (when) it got caught.[/QUOTE]I guess it would contain most of what you write, but don't know as I have never been. I am thinking of the show 89 and 69 - anybody been?
Which gogo are you referring to where I can find what you write. Never seen that anywhere.
Cheers.
Be.
[QUOTE=Belsie;3049762]Lots of writing about various sex shows that has started in Pattaya after Covid, would be interesting to hear if anyone have been and what the think. Is it worth going?
Cheers.
Be.[/QUOTE]I heard a lots of things but tbh I rarely seen things who was near what I would call a good sex show. Most place have the same pattern: a line up of girls or a fsih bowl from which you do your selection, girls on a stage doing nothing and waiting for a customer, girls tring to get your attention to enter in a bar and drink, girls who are sat and drinking or playing pool and waiting you to come to see them. The things you are naming 'show' seem to happen mostly behind curtain in GC, BJ bar are dying so you might find a place where the girls are sucking the clients in the bar, if its your thing you have to not be selective on the apperance of the girls because you are going to be lucky to find a 6 and ever a 5 on 10 in those places. The sex show are things from the pasts I think, your chance to see some are pobably higher in Bangkok in Patpong or at nan plaza in Spanky bar. Rules are very strict on public sex in thailand, I don't think there is business who are actively and openly promoting live sex show. Sometime you see some really drunk epopole doing oral sex and playing with girls pussy in place like Windmill, but its not really what I would call a sex show. Windmill and GC should be where to do your research. Best sex show I seen was in Colombia. Girls are literally doing orgy live on stage, in Brazil too. In Brazil there is bar in whcih the client can fuck the girls on stage, but you do that and you are 100% sure to be live on the web while doing it so think about it before going there.
I've been to a number years before Covid, a few layout near the Lotus North, and next to bus station on Nua, also right before Covid, these are usually for tour groups particularly large Chinese from the mainland or Taiwan.
Save you time and money! Particularly the one's on Walking Street too!
What do you guys like to do during the daytime when you have downtime?
I'll probably be doing a session from some gals on TF, but I'd love to hear what people like to beyond that.
[QUOTE=LundonFrog;3050344]What do you guys like to do during the daytime when you have downtime?
I'll probably be doing a session from some gals on TF, but I'd love to hear what people like to beyond that.[/QUOTE]Many bars open at 1 pm. Go to Soi Chaiyapoon and you will find "closed" bars (meaning that they have a door).
Since I live in Pattaya, I can be very busy working in my condo during the day, but often have a lady come over in the afternoon for drinking and fucking.
Most only drink with customers. The few who do go ST refuse BJ or kissing.
This is a big challenge at all places, even at GCs in my experience. Are you all having any luck?
Hi, I asked someone on YouTube about the girls' prices. Can you confirm them for me, or are they different?
It could also be that they charge more because he's South Korean or Japanese.
I'm waiting for a response.
Walking ST:3000-3500,4000 (ex).
Walking LT: 5000 7000 (expensive).
Walking Bar-Fine: 2000 3500 (ex).
I think CRAZY PRICE in walking st.
Soi6ST:2000 4000 (ex).
Soi6 LT:4000 6000 (ex).
Bar-Fine:1500 2500 (ex).
2 F rental room: 400-700 (ex).
There is agogo and different price system bar in Soi6 that is expensive.
It is crazy price also, but you could find cheaper bar.
I recommend soi buakhao. Also there is crazy cheating bar and girl. But you could save your money more and enjoy more time.
[QUOTE=Shikhar10;3050808]Most only drink with customers. The few who do go ST refuse BJ or kissing.
This is a big challenge at all places, even at GCs in my experience. Are you all having any luck?[/QUOTE]Most women at Gentleman's Clubs will fuck.
There are some who cannot do LT because they have a live in boyfriend who picks them up when the bar closes.
There are a few who don't do ST because they are having their period or have some illness.
Of course, many Soi 6 ladies are drinks only now, but that is rare outside Soi 6.
What's becoming more common are ladyboys in regular bars, have to watch out for that.
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Buddy just came into town. His first time here. Took him and another guy he met on the plane to Soi 6 2 nights ago. (It is the other guy's first international trip anywhere. Will call him new guy.) We went into zero bars and bought zero drinks. Walked the street 1 time. They did pictures and videos with chicks and exchanged info. Chick literally picked new guy up and carried him into the bar and was blocking him from leaving.
One of the chicks and her friend met my boy at the disco when she finished work. After the club they went to his place. The next day at 12, they met us to eat and she was still wearing her club clothes with ass out. I told him he should have taken her home to get normal clothes. She stayed with him until about 6 pm. She did not want any money. He said she does live upstairs in the bar she works in.
When we left Soi 6, we walked to the soapy on 2nd Road. I walked in first. There were tons of chicks. I saw one chick closest to the door hiding her face. I say what the hell is she doing. It is like she does not want us to choose her. I looked behind me and new guy was making a video. One of the manager ladies rushed over and made him delete everything. He did not know, so he was ashamed to stay there and we went to the next soapy up which had nowhere as many chicks. Earlier before Soi 6 I had taken them to Naklua Seafood Market. New guy bought 1 lobster, 1 fish, 1 kg prawns, scallops, rice, and kale. I was laughing my ass off. He could not finish the prawns.
[QUOTE=Shikhar10;3051207]Approach-wise, typically I just greet with a smile and folded hands and offer to buy a lady drink. While drinking, I make some small talk -- name, where she's from, how old, yada yada -- and then I just ask if she goes short time.
I am open to feedback on anything I can improve.[/QUOTE]Yes. You seem to be putting the cart before the horse. Ask if she goes short time before doing any of that other stuff. Because if she does not do short time you just wasted a bunch of time and money. If she says yes, then I would ask the other questions like her name or whatever. After you have had a good conversation, [B]then[/B] a drink may be in order. (Or you could save your money by going straight to the room.) A drink is a reward, not a preward. That is like a boss paying a worker before the work week starts. Who would do that?
P.S. Why are your hands folded?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3051179]Most women at Gentleman's Clubs will fuck.
[/QUOTE]Not only have I never met a woman at a GC that wouldn't fuck, most are trying to get me to fuck within the first 15 m of me sitting down with them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051268]Yes. You seem to be putting the cart before the horse. Ask if she goes short time before doing any of that other stuff. Because if she does not do short time you just wasted a bunch of time and money. If she says yes, then I would ask the other questions like her name or whatever. After you have had a good conversation, [B]then[/B] a drink may be in order. (Or you could save your money by going straight to the room.) A drink is a reward, not a preward. That is like a boss paying a worker before the work week starts. Who would do that?[/QUOTE]That's good advice. Will stick to it. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051268]P.S. Why are your hands folded?[/QUOTE]Greeting with folded hands is common in India and Thailand. I have sort of built a habit of doing so as a sign of respect.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;3051289]most are trying to get me to fuck within the first 15 m of me sitting down with them.[/QUOTE]Same. My post focused specifically on a pattern I noticed among beautiful young women. The vast majority of women in GCs have been down to fuck quite eagerly quite soon.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;3051289]Not only have I never met a woman at a GC that wouldn't fuck, most are trying to get me to fuck within the first 15 m of me sitting down with them.[/QUOTE]As I reported in December, 2 chicks in a gentlemen's club told me and my buddy that our dicks were too big and they would only suck. They said we would have to get different girls if we wanted to fuck.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051264]Buddy just came into town. His first time here. Took him and another guy he met on the plane to Soi 6 2 nights ago. (It is the other guy's first international trip anywhere. Will call him new guy.) We went into zero bars and bought zero drinks. Walked the street 1 time. They did pictures and videos with chicks and exchanged info. Chick literally picked new guy up and carried him into the bar and was blocking him from leaving.
One of the chicks and her friend met my boy at the disco when she finished work. After the club they went to his place. The next day at 12, they met us to eat and she was still wearing her club clothes with ass out. I told him he should have taken her home to get normal clothes. She stayed with him until about 6 pm. She did not want any money. He said she does live upstairs in the bar she works in.[/QUOTE]Bars in soi 6 open at 3 or 4 pm. The girl lives upstairs means she's got a monthly contract with the bar and typically gets 3 days off for 27 working days, it is very unlikely she is being working there as a freelancer if she stays upstairs.
She didn't show up at least until 6 pm means she took a day off just to stay with your buddy. These days off are like a prize for these girls after having worked there for so many days, it's very unlikely they're going to blow some on a random dude for free.
Didn't your buddy conveniently forget to tell you he is the one who paid the full amount for her day off (at least 2500 baht) instead?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3051390]Bars in soi 6 open at 3 or 4 pm. The girl lives upstairs means she's got a monthly contract with the bar and typically gets 3 days off for 27 working days, it is very unlikely she is being working there as a freelancer if she stays upstairs.
She didn't show up at least until 6 pm means she took a day off just to stay with your buddy. These days off are like a prize for these girls after having worked there for so many days, it's very unlikely they're going to blow some on a random dude for free.
Didn't your buddy conveniently forget to tell you he is the one who paid the full amount for her day off (at least 2500 baht) instead?[/QUOTE]It was voting day. All bars were closed!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051364]As I reported in December, 2 chicks in a gentlemen's club told me and my buddy that our dicks were too big and they would only suck. They said we would have to get different girls if we wanted to fuck.[/QUOTE]In my hayday! I had the opposite reaction? As noted by others they can't wait to fuck basically tearing my boxer off I had to slow them down see some of the goods first run them through my interview question to make sure I get all the boxes checked off sound like it takes a long time but as you know it really doesn't. But once in the room the start to hesitate because they thought I being who I am was small turn out to be opposite not huge but bigger than they thought thus my handle LOL! In sports with my teammates who were mainly brothers my line was " I'm black below the waist " LOL!
This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.
Activated Thai friendly.
I contacted a girl through Thai Friendly. She said she is in Kanchana puri now.
She is okay to travel If I pay her travel allowance.
She agrees 6 k bhat including travel expenses and can stay with me 4 days.
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand.
Is this normal, Sending advance? I don't want to be scammed.
P.S.: She well conversed in English (only texting yet). She shared her pics and seems genuine.
If she is beautiful, how can she agree 6 k for 4 days?
I think pay 1 k in advance is the reply. After she would have family problem and disappear (or ask other money without meet).
This my view.
If you want I can send you an my picture edited with AI and you can fall in love for me. What is your girl favorite characteristic? I can put in "my" picture.
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.
Activated Thai friendly.
I contacted a girl through Thai Friendly. She said she is in Kanchana puri now.
She is okay to travel If I pay her travel allowance.
She agrees 6 k bhat including travel expenses and can stay with me 4 days.
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand.
Is this normal, Sending advance? I don't want to be scammed.
P.S.: She well conversed in English (only texting yet). She shared her pics and seems genuine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.[/QUOTE]This is a SCAM!
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand.
Is this normal, Sending advance? I don't want to be scammed.
P.S.: She well conversed in English (only texting yet). She shared her pics and seems genuine.[/QUOTE]It's a very common scam model so could say it is normal. Send her the cash and she'll block you right away.
IF the girl is good in english, it is likely that she is knowing the tricks of the trade well, 6 K for 4 days sounds unreal, I suggest to have due diligence, may be video call, converstions, and some talkindg before you go ahead.
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.
Activated Thai friendly.
I contacted a girl through Thai Friendly. She said she is in Kanchana puri now.
She is okay to travel If I pay her travel allowance.
She agrees 6 k bhat including travel expenses and can stay with me 4 days.
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand.
Is this normal, Sending advance? I don't want to be scammed.
P.S.: She well conversed in English (only texting yet). She shared her pics and seems genuine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.
Activated Thai friendly.
I contacted a girl through Thai Friendly. She said she is in Kanchana puri now.
She is okay to travel If I pay her travel allowance.
She agrees 6 k bhat including travel expenses and can stay with me 4 days.
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand..[/QUOTE]Tell her that you will meet her in Kanchana Puri first, and travel from there.
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.[/QUOTE]Written like a man who has never visited Thailand. Just show up and play it by ear. Anywhere in Pattaya between Walking Street and Soi 6 will be fine. Personally, I prefer Bangkok along Sukhumvit between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. In either case you will be overwhelmed with options.
Thai girls are well known for requesting advance travel money and then never showing up. Maybe they will ghost you or maybe they will come up with some sob story why they need more money. Clearly written text messages are no indication of an ability to communicate with spoken English; that free translator on your smart phone is very effective.
If you insist on one girl for several days, I suggest you try to start a long distance relationship using hours of video calls well in advance of your travel. That way you will at least have an idea if you can communicate and get along 24-hours for a few consecutive days.
First time in Thailand and I was really excited for this trip. I landed February 7th around 11 am and immigration was pretty chill. I used soitaxi to take me from the airport to my hotel for 1000 baht. A YouTuber recommended them and they are cheaper than using bolt to get to Pattaya. I stayed at a hotel called March hotel Pattaya. The hotel room was decent a the cleaners are nice. Just keep in mind, they only clean from 9 am-5 pm and one girl left makeup all over my bed sheets and I couldn't get new sheets until the next morning. I could bring any girl in without checking them as long as I walked them in with me. If I called a girl from Thai friendly to reach my place, they would sometimes call to confirm if I was expecting a guest or not. They would hold the ID and call me after the deed was done to confirm everything is good. When I landed, got food, and first thing I did was open Thai friendly. It was my go to way for hunting and was a very convenient method to meet these pretty ladies. I got all BBFS from Thai friendly girls.
I met a girl named Pao from Thai friendly who was a gorgeous tanned 21 year old. She looked just like her photos and loved squeezing her ass in her booty shorts. She would reciprocate DFK and had her tongue down my throat 😩. Gave her good head that got her shaking and I asked her for no condom. Hallelujah she allowed it and from my 3 weeks of no masturbation, I came in like 10 strokes. I'd be seeing her like every other day in the morning or so, to cum inside her. Amazing. Total price to meet this girl was 2 k baht and I'd give her an extra 200 baht to per visit cause I'd be creampieing her and her head felt so nice it was my fav. I will be missing you Pao.
The next girl I met was from TF and she was the hottest girl I'd fuck on this trip. In her bio it said she wasn't ai so I was skeptical at first, however, once I saw her in person. I got hard and ready to fuck her instantly. She was beautiful and had the best feeling tits I've ever felt in my life. So soft and elastic. She had braces on and just a very cute vibe about her. Feeling her body was just amazing. The first time I fucked her, I'd do it with a condom, but the second time I asked if we can go do it with no condom. She gave a little face and gave a price of a total of 3000 baht. With no hesitation I swiftly agreed cause I really wanted to fuck her raw but she said no cumming inside. After I eat her out for a while, I fuck her raw and it was welllllll worth it. I loved hearing her moans and feeling those perfect boobs in my hands. We did missionary, doggy, lazy doggy, and I'd finish on her back. She was surprised about the amount I left out LOL that is what 3 weeks of no jerking off does. We spoke about the different kind of men in Pattaya and she said she doesn't fuck Indian men cause most of them smell and Chinese men cause all they do s fuck raw. I have more things common with the Chinese than I thought LOL. I'd see her twice more cause she was well worth it in my eyes. Did I pay too much? Maybe but she's as hot af.
Thai friendly is actually really nice and convenient to meet young beautiful girls who will take it raw. I had way more success in Thai friendly compared to the club in person. I went to Ibar, insomnia, and myst during my visit. They were fun to dance at and all but from previous posts I thought it was going to be a 60:40 ratio of girls to boys. It felt more like 50:50 and sometimes leaning a bit more towards the men. There were beautiful woman there but most of them were in groups and it was hard to get even get eye contact with them to see if they were interested. Woman at times would try to grab me to see if I was interested but most of them would not be my cup of tea so I'd politely decline and move on. I never reserved a table and roamed around the clubs which was a bit awkward at times cause of how busy the clubs would be. If you have a table at the club, girls will ask to drink with you and this is for sure an advantage. Next time I'll be getting a table so I don't have to walk around like a lost dog. I went two nights in a row and brought a lady I liked. The first girl was 24, had glasses, an was thicc in a good way. We would dance and grind a lot at the club before heading back to my hotel. She sadly declined to do it no condom so we fucked with one and it was still a good time. She loved kiss and we basically kissed the entire session in each position. For 2500, it was worth it and fun.
In the second night at club, I was out until like 4 am cause I couldn't find anyone I liked enough to bring to my place. A lot of older girls kept grabbing me but I wasn't going to spend my money on them. I like them to be at least below or around my age which is 27. Before giving up, I went to insomnia at 4 am and it was kinda dead. It had a lot of girls hanging around and as I took a left turn, all I saw was a mountain of tits behind a cute dress. I could tell she was on the older side but we ended up making eye contact cause I was looking at her cleavage. We talked and I brought her back to my place. She was honestly a lot of fun to hangout with and she loved swearing LOL. We would hit up 7 eleven cause she was hungry and buy some food from a stall. She made me try different foods I've never had for the first time. All of this was fun, however, when we got to the bedroom, she was very aggressive and wanted to do things her way LOL. Ok fine I go with the flow and she asks for a condom and I said can we have sex without one?? Oh man bad mistake. She started lecturing me on how bad it is to do that and how I should always use a condom blah blah blah blah. I'm on prep and have my doxy strapped cause this is what I want woman. I am willing to take the risk girl let me live lmao. Saying no is fine but my god the lecturing got annoying. I ended up not cumming and sent her home. 2500 baht down the drain but that's life, can't win them all. I called up first Thai girl I met on Thai friendly Pao, and fucked her raw at 5 am. Amazing how convenient it is to get these woman to come to me when I want. After this experience, I never went to the club monger again. Clubs can be fun but I had a better experience elsewhere. Next time I visit Pattaya, I will be reserving a table at Ibar or insomnia to have an advantage. Or I will only go to clubs past 2 am when the girls are a bit drunk and get desperate for a client.
Next day I wanted to experience an agogo on walking street and went to windmill for how iconic it was. Beautiful girls on the stage dancing naked and in tubs that have a waterfall. It was honestly a lot of fun and buying a girl a lady drink would mean I can basically fondle them however I want and some girls were tongue fucking my mouth. There were these two small tight girls who wanted a drink and pointed to themselves, I was like fuck it why not. We ended up having a three way tongue wrestling match and they would take turns shoving their tongue in my throat. They'the be doing this and grinding me while I feel their asses and tits. I ended up bar fining one of the petite girls with a nice little ass on her and she was a lot of fun in bed. She gave me good head then would slide on my cock back and forth slowly and sensually while French kissing me. She teased putting the head of my cock inside of her and we ended up fucking raw without me having to ask for it. God she felt so nice, had me moaning. The damage was 1500 bar fine and 3000st + 2 k baht for drinks. On the more expensive side but I had a really good time so I don't care. What I didn't like was how many different girls would ask me for a drink. Especially the older girls kept pestering me, I guess I looked like an easy target but kindly fuck off puta.
Next day I would hit up Soi 6 for the first time, there was a food market right beside soi6 that I started to always eat at because the food was really good there and cheap. They had a big screen in the middle of market that would be playing any premier league games from the previous day. Going to Soi 6 for the first time, I thought the so gogo was overwhelming but this was on steroids. So many girls outside lined up in front of the bar they work at and they'd be looking at you to see if you have any interest. There was a bar that was just a bar and no girls at the beginning of Soi 6 and had to start drinking there a bit to calm down the nerves and not to feel shy. After I stopped being a pussy, I started my walk down Soi 6 and I would literally get harassed walking down this street from these woman. They would be grabbing my crotch, slapping my ass, feeling my chest, hugging me so I can't escape, surround me with a couple of their friends and drag me to the bar. On the first day a girl named Tia grabbed my arm and asked me to go to the bar with her, I thought she was cute and I liked her braided hair that had some white highlights. We go to the bar and we talk for a bit and I buy her a lady drink. She ends up kissing me on my cheek and neck and would tease kissing my lips for a bit before she went for it. I was fondling her most of the time as she did have a nice little bum on her that was squeezable. She liked to imprint her kisses on my face and neck but applying extra lipstick onto herself then giving me a bunch of kisses. The other girls and mamasan would laugh at me for how ridiculous I looked LOL. We played games like connect 4 for fun for a bit before I ended up bar fining her and went back to my place. Gave her good head cause I was in the mood and she loved it. She reciprocated after she came and couldn't take it anymore and slid on top of me for my favorite, no condom was nice not having to ask. Spent like 1500 baht at the bar, bar fine was 1000 and I paid her 2000.
At this point I have a rotation of 5 girls I met from Thai friendly that let me creampie them and I would invite them to my place when I wake up so I can fix my morning boner. God I love Pattaya. It would take them on average like 30 minutes to get to my place. In addition, I only got cat fished once by a girl that I met at like 4 am after visiting walking street. Still hit it raw at least and she felt real nice. She was really shy and didn't even say Hi to me and went straight to the bathroom to freshen up.
I went to Soi 6 again and a cute girl caught my eye. We locked eye contact and she gestured me to come and so I did. She was a lot fun and would tease me a lot. We played games and gambled on shots and I didn't mind cause I enjoy gambling but don't participate usually. Maybe only during the World Cup. We played games like connect 4, and some other game when you roll some dice. I ended up buying her 3 shots and I got pretty wasted at the bar. I ended up bar fining her and we were both hungry so we went to KBBQ and that was really good. There are two food markets to the left and right of Soi 6 and the one to the left had places still open at 2:30 am. She paid for the meal which was nice of her. After we finished eating, we went to my place cleaned up and had boom boom. She loved to dance and would dance and grind on me while singing her favorite song. She teased inserting my cock for like 2 minutes and then put it in herself. These girls love to tease like this and I am all for it. I creampied her and we did round 2 before she left at like 6 am.
I wanted to go to a different agogo so I went to XS agogo and the girls there are so sexy. They are young tight girls. Girls here are not as slutty and freaky as the girls at windmill but their looks make up for it. Two girls approached me and they were cute so I bought them both lady drinks. Thankfully a booth opened up and we sat there, one grinding on me and the other one I was feeling up. What I didn't like was how this was hag wanted to join and us and wanted me to buy her drinks. I kept saying no but she was being annoying and persistent so I gave in. That shut her up for a while but I guess I looked like an easy target LOL. The mamasan was nice and gave me a free shot so I asked for a Samsung (idk how to spell it) and after like 5 drinks, I was getting pretty drunk. Feeling up these girls were a lot of fun and them taking turns grinding on me and putting stickers all over my body. I left without barfining anyone cause I got wasted and knew it would be hard to have sex even with Cialis so I went home slept for a bit and ate then texted one of my regulars I got from Thai friendly. Thankfully the girl who said wasn't ai was still awake and she swung by, god she was so sexy. I got to creampie her this time. And we just talked for a while cause her English was pretty good for being 21 years old.
I went to xsagogo again, but this time I wasn't going to get wasted and I wanted to barfine one of the two girls I had in mind. I met the two again and bought lady drinks for them. I went on Valentine's Day and they were wearing nice red dress and two tops that were white, man they looked so fine in them. Having a stage full of these girls dancing with no top on was just a lovely sight to see. The original girl I wanted to barfine ended up going with somebody else, that's life we go next so I went for the second best option. We went back to my place and had boomboom with a condom but this condom broke midway and I didn't realize till I came deep inside her and when I pulled out, there was a big hole in my condom and semen was coming out of her. Was a nice sight to see but felt bad so I tipped her extra and she was fine with it. We talked for a while, danced, and she grinded on me. She looked so nice in her red dress. Apparently I forgot to pay for an 800 baht tab and the mamasan kept spam calling the girl I was with lool so I gave the money to the girl I was with and she went back to walking street to pay for my tab ooops my bad.
Last day I hit up my favorites I saved on line ID and fucked them all. I stayed up all night so I can sleep on the plane so I went on Thai friendly to see who was awake and this cute small 19 year old girl was awake and she agreed to st 2000 baht. She was so small and cute that it got me really excited once I saw her. Cute little tight ass and small tits with erase nipples. Eating her out was fun cause of her reaction and her pussy was so small and cute. When we went to have boomboom there was no mention of a condom so I went for it and man she was soooo tight. I could only put in the head and she was pushing me back a bit, I had to slowly stroke her and inch my way in. When I was able to finally fit most of my cock inside her, I was holding back from cumming cause of how tight she was. I ended up cumming buckets inside her and seen all of my semen coming out of her tight coochie and it was a lovely sight to see. She stayed for a bit and we watched TikTok together for a bit before she left and I started packing to leave from this paradise.
[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3052941]This is story in short. I am coming to Pattaya on March 1st week.
Activated Thai friendly.
I contacted a girl through Thai Friendly. She said she is in Kanchana puri now.
She is okay to travel If I pay her travel allowance.
She agrees 6 k bhat including travel expenses and can stay with me 4 days.
Before that she asks me to pay 1000 bhat as advance for travel through TrueMoney by depositing on any 7-11 in Thailand.
Is this normal, Sending advance? I don't want to be scammed..[/QUOTE]I wouldn't bother messaging girls while not in Pattaya. Just wait till you arrive and then ask girls if they are available for st. Message girls that were recently online for the best chance to get a message back.
Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
How would you guys think is the best way to accomplish this? Would it even be feasible to LT multiple girls from a gentleman's club or gogo? I've LT two girls at a time before from Walking Street and LK Metro, but I feel like pulling 6 girls at a time from one place would be frowned upon or get a mamasan laughing at me. Would it make more sense to plan this around a public holiday where there's no drinking and places are closed to throw my own personal party? Or should I bar hop and find a girl I really like from a place, bring her back to the villa and then explain to her that I'd like to have a big party with her friends and tell her I'll pay her extra for finding girls for the party?
Price isn't an issue, I fully understand this will cost at least $2000-$3000 USD for the girls alone per night, as well as $1000-$2000 for the property for the week. Not concerned about the money being spent, just want to make sure that I get what I'm paying for.
[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;3053115]Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
How would you guys think is the best way to accomplish this? Would it even be feasible to LT multiple girls from a gentleman's club or gogo? I've LT two girls at a time before from Walking Street and LK Metro, but I feel like pulling 6 girls at a time from one place would be frowned upon or get a mamasan laughing at me. Would it make more sense to plan this around a public holiday where there's no drinking and places are closed to throw my own personal party? Or should I bar hop and find a girl I really like from a place, bring her back to the villa and then explain to her that I'd like to have a big party with her friends and tell her I'll pay her extra for finding girls for the party?
Price isn't an issue, I fully understand this will cost at least $2000-$3000 USD for the girls alone per night, as well as $1000-$2000 for the property for the week. Not concerned about the money being spent, just want to make sure that I get what I'm paying for.[/QUOTE]Check out this website.
[URL]https://www.mythaitourguide.com/[/URL]
They can probably help you with the ladies, plus these ladies are escorts who are travel companions so this is what they do.
I would not have all the women their at one time. You can arrange for them to rotate out every day. In my younger days I was in a hotel room in China with four women at one time and it was not worth it. If you want to fuck multiple women at one time just to brag find a gentlemen's club.
[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;3053115]Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
How would you guys think is the best way to accomplish this? Would it even be feasible to LT multiple girls from a gentleman's club or gogo? I've LT two girls at a time before from Walking Street and LK Metro, but I feel like pulling 6 girls at a time from one place would be frowned upon or get a mamasan laughing at me. Would it make more sense to plan this around a public holiday where there's no drinking and places are closed to throw my own personal party? Or should I bar hop and find a girl I really like from a place, bring her back to the villa and then explain to her that I'd like to have a big party with her friends and tell her I'll pay her extra for finding girls for the party?
Price isn't an issue, I fully understand this will cost at least $2000-$3000 USD for the girls alone per night, as well as $1000-$2000 for the property for the week. Not concerned about the money being spent, just want to make sure that I get what I'm paying for.[/QUOTE]You are talking about renting a pool villa. Easy peasy. If you invite 5 ladies to a pool villa, no problem, its free money for the ladies.
Go into a Gentlemens Club, barfine one lady for the first night. The second night, ask her to bring some friends.
One word of caution: make sure the pool in your pool villa is shielded from view from nearby buildings.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;3053116]Check out this website.
[URL]https://www.mythaitourguide.com/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]That's a terrible site, very few girls under 30 and far too many over 40.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;3053116]Check out this website.
[URL]https://www.mythaitourguide.com/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]
48 regular escorts, 20220 confirmed bookings. Damn, those women are busy, with 421 dicks each.
0-1h for 6000 baht is also about 5x the going rate on Thai sites, and the women don't seem particularly young or stunning. Farang buffalo tax, no doubt.
[QUOTE=Lukai;3053073]First time in Thailand and I was really excited for this trip. I landed February 7th around 11 am and immigration was pretty chill. I used soitaxi to take me from the airport to my hotel for 1000 baht. A YouTuber recommended them and they are cheaper than using bolt to get to Pattaya. I stayed at a hotel called March hotel Pattaya. The hotel room was decent a the cleaners are nice. Just keep in mind, they only clean from 9 am-5 pm and one girl left makeup all over my bed sheets and I couldn't get new sheets until the next morning. I could bring any girl in without checking them as long as I walked them in with me. If I called a girl from Thai friendly to reach my place, they would sometimes call to confirm if I was expecting a guest or not. They would hold the ID and call me after the deed was done to confirm everything is good. When I landed, got food, and first thing I did was open Thai friendly. It was my go to way for hunting and was a very convenient method to meet these pretty ladies. I got all BBFS from Thai friendly girls.
I met a girl named Pao from Thai friendly who was a gorgeous tanned 21 year old. She looked just like her photos and loved squeezing her ass in her booty shorts. She would reciprocate DFK and had her tongue down my throat 😩. Gave her good head that got her shaking and I asked her for no condom. Hallelujah she allowed it and from my 3 weeks of no masturbation, I came in like 10 strokes. I'd be seeing her like every other day in the morning or so, to cum inside her. Amazing. Total price to meet this girl was 2 k baht and I'd give her an extra 200 baht to per visit cause I'd be creampieing her and her head felt so nice it was my fav. I will be missing you Pao....[/QUOTE]Ah to be 27 again! Nice report.
Wondering if anyone can help me get a lactating lady for some good time, will make your time worth while, thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=TheGyrator;3053206]Wondering if anyone can help me get a lactating lady for some good time, will make your time worth while, thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Presumably two ladies called Ice and Soi in the chapel meet your requirements.
Alternatively, just put a description to your TF profile that you looking for such, and let jungle drums play for you!
[QUOTE=Downandup;3053158]That's a terrible site, very few girls under 30 and far too many over 40.[/QUOTE]Yup. Online websites are always hit or miss in Thailand. There's tinder app, bumble app, thaifriendly, massage republic, eurogirlsescort, etc. But the women are old as hell, pictures are fake or old, and its a huge risk compared to just walking outside your room and doing your own hunting.
[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;3053115]Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
[/QUOTE]Airbnbs generally don't allow house parties and non-guest visitors. The owner may have a security camera or a neighbor could be too nosy.
If you insist: go to any gogo bar, explain to the mamasan that you want to barfine 5-6 women, pick the women, arrange transportation, get them to your villa.
But this won't be a massive orgy like a porno video or an open brothel like in Zurich or Germany. What's likely going to happen is they're going to be on their phone, ask for endless food and drinks, and expect you to bang them one at a time while the other ones wait in a different room or rubs your shoulders. Then after fucking the first 2 chicks, your balls will be drained and you'll be exhausted from trying to bang the rest. Then they're going to demand you play some thai music.
Summary: it's going to be a headache.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;3053352]Airbnbs generally don't allow house parties and non-guest visitors. The owner may have a security camera or a neighbor could be too nosy.
If you insist: go to any gogo bar, explain to the mamasan that you want to barfine 5-6 women, pick the women, arrange transportation, get them to your villa.
But this won't be a massive orgy like a porno video or an open brothel like in Zurich or Germany. What's likely going to happen is they're going to be on their phone, ask for endless food and drinks, and expect you to bang them one at a time while the other ones wait in a different room or rubs your shoulders. Then after fucking the first 2 chicks, your balls will be drained and you'll be exhausted from trying to bang the rest. Then they're going to demand you play some thai music.
Summary: it's going to be a headache.[/QUOTE]I have never had a problem bringing ladies to a pool villa AirBnb in Pattaya.
The rest of your post is accurate. For the ladies, its mostly Money for Nothing.
[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;3053115]Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
How would you guys think is the best way to accomplish this? Would it even be feasible to LT multiple girls from a gentleman's club or gogo? I've LT two girls at a time before from Walking Street and LK Metro, but I feel like pulling 6 girls at a time from one place would be frowned upon or get a mamasan laughing at me. Would it make more sense to plan this around a public holiday where there's no drinking and places are closed to throw my own personal party? Or should I bar hop and find a girl I really like from a place, bring her back to the villa and then explain to her that I'd like to have a big party with her friends and tell her I'll pay her extra for finding girls for the party?
Price isn't an issue, I fully understand this will cost at least $2000-$3000 USD for the girls alone per night, as well as $1000-$2000 for the property for the week. Not concerned about the money being spent, just want to make sure that I get what I'm paying for.[/QUOTE]Getting 5-6 randoms from a gogo is a terrible idea.
Best bet is to get 2 (maximum 3) personally tested girls that have a bisexual inclination, explain to them what you want and with a generous offer you have a chance of a proper debauchery. IF they click with each other.
Keep in mind also that most pool villas aren't very private. You could have neighbors that can clearly see inside the pool area due to low walls, so only the craziest girls would want to bang outside the most private areas of the house. The last thing you would want is a Thai family next door calling the police on you for being too loud / indecent. And even worse if you make a porn video and get caught.
If I was the guy asking:
- I would first find the filthiest ones for this and explain what I want to do with a generous offer (say 10 k / day).
- Then I would ask her if she has friends she is compatible with, the proper bisexual ones will have.
- If you are a BBFS guy, make sure the friend will be ok being barebacked as well (most girls DO accept BBFS but if other girls are involved they're much less likely to do it because they don't want to be judged by the other girls).
- Look for a proper private pool villa, get as many photos as you can and evaluate the area. Preferably visit there beforehand because photos are often deceitful and there could be nosy neighbors.
- I don't recommend making too much of a commitment on the duration. I'd say 2 days maximum.
- Get someone to assist you on this, providing drinks, food, cleaning (very important, girls leave food everywhere), going to 7/11 to buy something that was left out etc. The girls are mostly useless about this and you wouldn't want to have to do these things by yourself.
Also let me point out that most of the party atmosphere needs to come from you. If you're a "boring" guy don't expect the girls to take the initiative to rock the place. In 99% of cases, their natural behavior is to sit looking at their phones the whole day and do absolutely nothing besides eating. You need money hungry girls that know what they are doing.
Knowing some influential and connected nightlife people in Pattaya would help you with most of the arrangements.
Hey all. Going to be in Pattaya from 31 Mar-4 Apr, staying near soi 6. Would love and appreciate some recommendations on good pick up places and also FLs. DM is open.
Already talking to a few on tinder. But its a hit or miss a the pics might be misleading.
Also wouldn't mind catching up over a couple of beers if anyone here is interested.
[QUOTE=Zephyer;3054202]Would love and appreciate some recommendations on good pick up places and also FLs. DM is open.[/QUOTE]Pattaya has plenty of "good pick up places." Based on his prior reports I believe Khun 11 Bravo is our resident expert on those "pick up places," plus freelancers as well. I'm sure he will save you the trouble of reading prior posts in the month before your holiday begins by drafting a pithy précis. Cheers!
Your best bet is you can find few Yaccht / Baot Party Organizers, can find few in Insta, and then ask them to organize 5/6 gilrs of your choice and bang them all mid sea, also the same people will find all you need with a villa etc. It could be a bit more money, but negotiate hard, they will take care of it all.
[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;3053115]Looking for advice on how to accomplish what I'm envisioning. I've been to Pattaya a few times during month long stays in Bangkok. I was recently looking at Airbnbs in Pattaya and was intrigued by some of the awesome party houses that have a large pool, slides, pool tables, multiple rooms, tons and tons of places for fun. What I'm thinking is having 5/6 women to party with at one of these villas with lots of public debauchery one night or different girls across multiple nights. Banging them around the pool, in the kitchen, around the house where ever I want. Something like public days at Globe Club in Zurich if ya'll are familiar.
How would you guys think is the best way to accomplish this? Would it even be feasible to LT multiple girls from a gentleman's club or gogo? I've LT two girls at a time before from Walking Street and LK Metro, but I feel like pulling 6 girls at a time from one place would be frowned upon or get a mamasan laughing at me. Would it make more sense to plan this around a public holiday where there's no drinking and places are closed to throw my own personal party? Or should I bar hop and find a girl I really like from a place, bring her back to the villa and then explain to her that I'd like to have a big party with her friends and tell her I'll pay her extra for finding girls for the party?
Price isn't an issue, I fully understand this will cost at least $2000-$3000 USD for the girls alone per night, as well as $1000-$2000 for the property for the week. Not concerned about the money being spent, just want to make sure that I get what I'm paying for.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zephyer;3054202]Hey all. Going to be in Pattaya from 31 Mar-4 Apr, staying near soi 6. Would love and appreciate some recommendations on good pick up places and also FLs. DM is open.
Already talking to a few on tinder. But its a hit or miss a the pics might be misleading.
Also wouldn't mind catching up over a couple of beers if anyone here is interested.[/QUOTE]I land the 28th March. [B]Do not[/B] message the girls to make arrangements before you arrive, I find it best to message them when I want them, tell them now and they will be there usually within the hour.
So, I am watching these girls in Pattaya on YouTube. It looks like they are walking on lunch breaks or heading home. Are they open to meeting if see they walking on the street?
[QUOTE=ChoduMadan;3054327]Your best bet is you can find few Yaccht / Baot Party Organizers, can find few in Insta, and then ask them to organize 5/6 gilrs of your choice and bang them all mid sea, also the same people will find all you need with a villa etc. It could be a bit more money, but negotiate hard, they will take care of it all.[/QUOTE]This is actually very illegal and anyone doing it would be very careful about who is asking. And I would have serious doubt about them finding 5/6 girls of "my choice".
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3054633]This is actually very illegal and anyone doing it would be very careful about who is asking. And I would have serious doubt about them finding 5/6 girls of "my choice".[/QUOTE]To be clear, securing ladies for yourself to go out on a boat is legal.
A business that secures ladies to attend parties out at sea is also legal.
What is not legal is a business that secures ladies for sex. I'm not aware of any such businesses in Pattaya. Even escort services don't provide ladies for sex, although an escort lady might decide to have sex for a tip.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054726]To be clear, securing ladies for yourself to go out on a boat is legal.
A business that secures ladies to attend parties out at sea is also legal.
What is not legal is a business that secures ladies for sex. I'm not aware of any such businesses in Pattaya. Even escort services don't provide ladies for sex, although an escort lady might decide to have sex for a tip.[/QUOTE]Yes I was talking about the business and sex part. It would have to be some very reserved thing for a known group of select people, they wouldn't be advertising it for anyone.
Any business with some brains won't be talking about sex also on a chat (providing evidence). Even a Soi 6 bar, they wouldn't mention anything about barfines or sex if you ask them on their facebook pages. These are all better dealt in person.
Personally, I would give up this fantasy until the ops know more about Pattaya! I remember a few years back not sure how far there was an arrest of a boat who tried this fantasy. One comes to Pattaya I take a good guess regardless of any replies a great majority of Thais with foreigners are going to be in the P4 P when it comes to these types of fantasy fullfillments.
There are villas I'm sure Na Jomtien, more likely out on the darkside far out towards the Lake, independent villas, not surrounded by other homes, high walls, private gates, for rent many are already rented by Triads, LOL, operating Online gambling and scams.
My saying, if one puts themselves in a position for something to happen it WILL?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;3054809]Personally, I would give up this fantasy until the ops know more about Pattaya! I remember a few years back not sure how far there was an arrest of a boat who tried this fantasy. One comes to Pattaya I take a good guess regardless of any replies a great majority of Thais with foreigners are going to be in the P4 P when it comes to these types of fantasy fullfillments.
There are villas I'm sure Na Jomtien, more likely out on the darkside far out towards the Lake, independent villas, not surrounded by other homes, high walls, private gates, for rent many are already rented by Triads, LOL, operating Online gambling and scams.
My saying, if one puts themselves in a position for something to happen it WILL?[/QUOTE]If you want to go back a few years, I remember a Farang being arrested for taking a lady to his hotel room. The bargirl had previously been arrested by the Pattaya police, and agreed to help them catch someone else. I suspect that the higher-ups put an end to that sort of thing.
So, yeah, probably someone has been arrested for just about everything in Pattaya at one point in time. Hell, I was arrested for being in a bar once.
Anyway, we shouldn't scare the newbies.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054869]If you want to go back a few years, I remember a Farang being arrested for taking a lady to his hotel room. The bargirl had previously been arrested by the Pattaya police, and agreed to help them catch someone else. I suspect that the higher-ups put an end to that sort of thing.
So, yeah, probably someone has been arrested for just about everything in Pattaya at one point in time. Hell, I was arrested for being in a bar once.
Anyway, we shouldn't scare the newbies.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to scare anyone LOL! But many want to act out their fantasies, do it in your own country here we are at times just a target we can agree or disagree on this point! But I've seen a lot of tough guys or so they think when push come to solve in another country especially one's that are corrupt like Thailand, when back up against the wall they pee in their pants, I once met this Aussie he tough like he was the a MMA champion or something I think he had a thing against me or just Americans in general.
Told me he was head of the Tourist police or something in Pattaya, lots of bragging I remember a conversation about driving " Farangs always pay in an Accident " he got in one not his fault now being squeeze for 200,000 plus over coffee he ask for my help, down Na Jomtien to talk to Captain second round first for me, walked away free as a man. No thanks not even a cup of coffee but for a guy who talked as much as he did sat there like a puppet who just shit on himself.
Remember pre-covid, the owner of Windmill, seem lots of people didn't like him particularly the guy from Nighwish group, that owner always seem to be raided once he was setup by another Brit, just happened to be caught in the act the right time upstairs! Then there is the time out in Jomtien forgot the club there same thing happened these raids all smell of a snitch involved.
Then from my renter the wannabe cop who said they stuck the Indian who grabbed a girl ass one night out of I-Bar who wasn't a working girl but a dancer, he got busted at the station at Soi 9, they held his passport a few hours later they got 250,000 baht out of him and they say Indians got no money LOL. When you here for a few days got to get back to the family or work and every brainless Thai knows this they got you by the balls if you again " put yourself in the position for something to happen " No fucking travel insurance or Go fund me program is going to bail your ass out!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;3055156]Told me he was head of the Tourist police or something in Pattaya, lots of bragging I remember a conversation about driving " Farangs always pay in an Accident " he got in one not his fault now being squeeze for 200,000[/QUOTE]A couple of weeks ago my brother was here with his teenage stepson. They were at the light on their bikes then for some reason my brother's stepson hit the gas and ran into 2 cars. People in the first car wanted 30,000 baht, but my brother talked them down to 15,000 baht. The second car did not get damaged so he paid nothing to them. It was 1,500 baht and took 2 hours to fix the bike.
Last Friday at noon me and my buddy had finished breakfast at Pratumnak and were about to drive around for some errands. I made a right turn onto Soi 24 under the bridge near Third Road and Thappraya then noticed he was not behind me so I went back. I saw him picking up a girl's bike and figured she must have fallen and he stopped to help. When he picked the bike up the throttle was stuck and the bike took off. Then I crossed back to see what was going on. When he was about to turn right behind me, the chick tried to go around him on the right and hit his bike and she fell.
The girl said she was okay and only worried about the bike. Then she said some bullshit that you are not supposed to turn right right there. I said there is no sign saying that. Some Thai bystander with a bunch of crap piled up on his bike got involved saying he was her friend and said you can get a new bike but not a new body. My buddy called his insurance and they told him to offer the chick 2000 baht. She was ready to take the 2000 baht, but the bystander insisted on calling the cops. The cop showed up and the chick tried to put in his ear that he was not supposed to be turning right. So the cop said yeah you can't turn right here. I told him to go on with that bullshit because there was no sign. So the cop said we had to bring a mechanic to the scene. I was like why the hell we can't just drive the bike to a mechanic? Not like they can fix it out in the middle of the street anyway. The cop was like no. So I left to get a mechanic and brought him back. The mechanic immediately did what we could have done in the first place, drove it to the shop.
He went over the bike and started writing a long list and I was peeking at it. I told my buddy it was over 10,000 baht already. He had even written up for a new exhaust even with the girl was saying she did not need all that. So my buddy said he could give her 2000 now or just let his insurance handle it which would take a couple of months. Then the cop said he would just tow the bike and they could handle it at the police station. So my buddy agreed to that and was getting ready to leave. I told him that I think he misunderstood. The cop was talking about towing his bike, not hers! He confirmed with the cop and he started panicking and ran into the shop. He came out and handed the girl 9,300 baht then we left. He said he had enough for one day and went home. I was wondering how he even had 9,300 baht on him.
I have also had other friends who had to pay when a Thai person hit them and it was not their fault. Why are they never concerned about tarnishing Thailand's reputation when it comes to ripping off foreigners, but are always concerned about Thailand's reputation when a foreigner is doing something wrong like fucking on the beach?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;3055156]I'm not trying to scare anyone LOL! But many want to act out their fantasies, do it in your own country here we are at times just a target we can agree or disagree on this point! But I've seen a lot of tough guys or so they think when push come to solve in another country especially one's that are corrupt like Thailand, when back up against the wall they pee in their pants, I once met this Aussie he tough like he was the a MMA champion or something I think he had a thing against me or just Americans in general.
Told me he was head of the Tourist police or something in Pattaya, lots of bragging I remember a conversation about driving " Farangs always pay in an Accident " he got in one not his fault now being squeeze for 200,000 plus over coffee he ask for my help, down Na Jomtien to talk to Captain second round first for me, walked away free as a man. No thanks not even a cup of coffee but for a guy who talked as much as he did sat there like a puppet who just shit on himself.
Remember pre-covid, the owner of Windmill, seem lots of people didn't like him particularly the guy from Nighwish group, that owner always seem to be raided once he was setup by another Brit, just happened to be caught in the act the right time upstairs! Then there is the time out in Jomtien forgot the club there same thing happened these raids all smell of a snitch involved.[/QUOTE]It's true that if the police want to squeeze, you are out of luck.
But these are rare instances. The average monger has nothing to worry about.
Any nice finds on Beach Road?
[QUOTE=DCups;3055307]Any nice finds on Beach Road?[/QUOTE]Beach Road nowadays is almost completely represented by 'modern women' and some due to some miraculous modern technology are absolute knockouts. It's hard to impossible to find any decent woman though. Whatever is left falls under 2 on my zero to dozen imaginary scale.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3055206]It's true that if the police want to squeeze, you are out of luck.
But these are rare instances. The average monger has nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]Whatever the %, can you gaurantee it won't happen to this ops! You did suggest you do it all the time so why not help the guy out and provide a location for him that is as safe as you claim?
[QUOTE=Questner;3055442]Beach Road nowadays is almost completely represented by 'modern women' and some due to some miraculous modern technology are absolute knockouts. It's hard to impossible to find any decent woman though. Whatever is left falls under 2 on my zero to dozen imaginary scale.[/QUOTE]I will attempt to translate:
The hot women on Beach Road are fake. The real women are low quality.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;3055474]Whatever the %, can you gaurantee it won't happen to this ops! You did suggest you do it all the time so why not help the guy out and provide a location for him that is as safe as you claim?[/QUOTE]Let me talk to the newbies (since the experienced guys know the chances of being arrested by the police are akin to being struck by lightning).
Don't worry about the police arresting you for normal mongering activities. In the specific case of going on a boat with a bunch of girls, the boat operators take the one in a million risk, not you. I can't think of any foreign male arrested for mongering in Pattaya over the last five years.
That's not to say that people don't get arrested for "normal" crimes.
"six-foot-four and full of muscle" – Trip report.
I have been absent from Thailand since my several trips to the country and the last Year of the Horse. Likely Thais feel a lot of change in recent years but for the traveller like me the kingdom has not changed much. A philosophical phrase by Heraclitus that "No man ever steps in the same river twice" made much more sense.
All foreign visitors entering Thailand are required to complete the online Thailand Digital Arrival Card (TDAC) at least 3 days before entry. Visitors can submit declarations using Thailand's official e-declaration website:
[URL]https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/[/URL]#/ home.
I did it on a laptop and somehow had an issue with the phone number area code in Chrome, switched to Edge and solved the issue. Don't forget the card otherwise the immigration will send you back to the end of the line!
Main terminal arrivals hall has the full range of ATMs and currency exchange booths from major Thai banks. SAT-1 arrivals has ATMs and limited exchange counters, but you'll still pass through the main terminal for immigration and customs, where most services are located. Expect 220–250 THB per withdrawal fee, 20,000 THB max per transaction, and Visa Plus compatibility across all major banks.
In Pattaya I used banks at Central Festival Pattaya Mall, open everyday from 11:00 am – remember, life starts in Pattaya at 11 am. You can check for rates here (see first 2 columns):
[URL]https://www.bangkokbank.com/en/Personal/Other-Services/View-Rates/Foreign-Exchange-Rates[/URL]
You can get a pre-booked taxi from BKK Airport and back for 1,000 THB with lesser reliability and lesser availability. Regular taxis charge 1,700 THB plus tolls. I took both ways for 1,600 THB. There is a Grab service spot, next after the taxi line. Vehicles are modern. The rate is just below 1,500 THB plus tolls a bit under 100 THB, so around 1,600 THB with a small tip. I took both trips at night, and it was a nice ride.
Pattaya has vast options to explore, but for simplicity I would reduce it the following areas: Beach Road, Walking Street, Soi 6, Soi Buakhao and area, and everything beyond, and then online options.
Let's start with a Coconut Bar or Beach Road itself. Walking it is fun indeed (and my watch showed me an average 16 km daily / nightly walks) especially during a rare breeze from the bay. You just keep it cool and enjoy the people. Somehow no matter which direction you take it seems everyone else is moving in the opposite direction towards you. First there are 6 Indian guys, then 12 Indian guys and then 24 Indian guys, you get it. The glorious nation becomes more prosperous, so everyone wants to travel, everyone is in search for magical 'release' or 'rub' or 'massage'. Practically the Indian community does not change anything, everyone is welcome! Seen a Russian lady walking in high winter felt boots in plus 27 Celsius, what a brave woman, maybe she was a firefighter by calling, who knows. As for freelancers, almost everyone nowadays is a 'modern woman' with whatever aspects and additions and reductions to their bodies. I can only admit that for connoisseurs of such achievements Pattaya is a place to be. You can see them amazingly good looking. A slight minority of genuine women at Beach Road are absolutely below acceptable.
We are moving to Walking Street with its clubs and agogos. Agogos usually have a happy hour from 8 pm to 9 pm. All of them basically a ripoff. Since a lot of information on Pattaya in circulation is outdated, I would recommend the following very accurate links on Soi 6, hotels, girls and agogos (no benefit for me as a disclosure):
[URL]https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/pattaya-girls-guide/[/URL]
[URL]https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/pattaya-go-go-bars/[/URL]
[URL]https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya/[/URL]
[URL]https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/soi-6-bars-pattaya/[/URL]
I would keep a copied file for above as you never know when any site can be taken down.
Bamboo Entertainment – Pub WVGF+RWF S Pattaya Rd · Opens 8 pm to 2 am is one of the FL places near Walking St, however with older ladies and older gentlemen as patrons.
One of the clubs has a dress code (I was denied entry, don't remember which one):
808 Night Club. Night club, WVGF+J8 X, Walking St. High-energy nightclub featuring an open-air shisha lounge, plus local & international DJs. Opens 8 pm [URL]808pattaya.com[/URL].
(iBar) Club Insomnia. Night club, 110/2 Walking St Rollicking nightspot with DJ-fueled dancing, colorful lights & a bar with terrace seating. Opens 9 pm [URL]clubinsomniapattaya.com[/URL] The Insomnia iBar is the gateway to style and contemporary design in Walking Street. Consisting of 2 distinctive zones, the bar and terrace, you can find your space to party with the crowd or chill out on the bay.
Republic Club Pattaya. Night club, 131/4 Soi JP, Opens 10 pm Republic-[URL]nightclub.com[/URL].
MYST. Night club, 139/7 Moo 10, [URL]mystclubpattaya.com[/URL].
Mixx Nightclub 104,4 Moo 10, Pattaya City [URL]https://www.facebook.com/mixxdiscotheque[/URL].
Flexx Club WVFC+W72 McDonald's, Soi Soho Square, Walking St open 1 am to 7 am.
We are moving to Soi 6: See [URL]https://nightwish-group.com/[/URL] and Telegram by NWG [URL]https://t.me/s/soi6ladiespattaya[/URL] Basically many are managed by the above group, some by the others or independent. I am not into a business of it, but you should be beware of where you can get (always) what you want and how much it will cost you. I have a list, but can't be sure how up to date or accurate is it:
Hollywood – foreign managed, Fire – foreign managed, Wet Spot, Red Point, Helicopter, Nymphoz, King Kong, Soho, Thai Rose, Panda – all independent.
Below unclear or NWG Night Wish Group: Corner Bar, Good Fellas, Omega Bar – NWG, Hot Pot, Monkey Banana, Oppa Bar, Smoke & Mirrors – other group, Sexy in the City – NWG, Showgirls, Foxy – NWG, Desire -NWG, Spider, Solo, Slutz – other group, Butterfly – NWG, Ruby, Lust – NWG, Horny – NWG, Flirt -NWG, Lady in Love, Sweet, Night Wish (obvious), Blue Panda (? Same as Panda below) Area 69 – other group, Boofies, Gold, The Spot (? Same as Wet Spot below), Sandman Sports, Seduction – NWG, Kelaya 66, Avarice – NWG, Tiffany's, Miso – other group, Passion -NWG, Miyu – other group, Wicked – NWG, Elevate, Wet Pussy, VIP, Click, Saigon – NWG, Playgirls – NWG, Kawaii – NWG, Playpen – NWG, Toy Box – NWG, La La Land – NWG, Wrath + NWG, Repent + NWG, Poison, Utopia – NWG, Maggie Choo's – NWG, Mod's – NWG, Exotica – NWG, 3 Angels – NWG, Roxy – NWG, Offshore – NWG, Where Angels Play – NWG.
Other than I think the ladies on the outside of the clubs should be inside, here is my critical point of view. They stand outside, they squeeze you, grab your chest, they spank you, block your way, and with all this horseplay their show is in no way sexy, enigmatic or appealing. Some are chubby bloated on beer and rice, and many just malnourished, under 5 feet under 40 kilos. One ad on TF listed a girl with a weight of 33 kilos. When I saw a few scrawny ones I almost suggested to buy them a sandwich (Buying bread from a man in Brussels he was six-foot-four and full of muscle I said, "Do you speak-a my language?" he just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich). Anyway, I liked girls like them when I was pre-school, gifted them toys, played a dentist with one etc. Now, these are no different and I don't want any sexual action with them, thankfully.
I count Soi Buakhao, LK Metro, Tree Town area as one, and if you have to choose which area in Pattaya to stay I would recommend Central Pattaya. Just take Hilton as your central point and move from it to adjust for your budget. Let's say from View Talay 6 you can cross the road into Soi Myth Night and start checking out the bars, and then move up to Soi Made in Thailand up to Soi Buakhao, then turn right to Tree Town area, then to LK Metro and further and explore adjacent Sois, like Soi Chaiyapoon aka Soi Pothole, Soi Boomerang and others.
There are couple of places that are considered open to freelancers; however, I found them loud, problematic with talent, older age etc:
Candy Club 64,14 Soi Buakhao.
Billabong Bar on LK Metro WVJM+2 QQ Red Light District, LK Metro Aly.
You can also check out Juju club (Soi Buakhao at Chaiyapoon, late night 1 am to 3 am.
If you want to visit Gentlemen's Clubs: [URL]https://www.gentsclubsmap.com/[/URL].
If you are looking into some extra activities, then you can follow a bit outside to Soi (Bongkot) Bong Koch 8 where some joints are open from 1 pm, like Bada Bing.
Some places are reported as a bit overdo, naughty clubs:
King's Club - 3rd road 20150 from 1 pm to midnight [URL]https://www.gentsclubs.com/gc/kings-club[/URL]
Red House – Bong Koch 8 – from 2 pm to midnight.
Pirates. Bong Koch 8 – from 1 pm to midnight.
Maggie May. Soi Chaiyapoon. Open Daily 1 pm. Midnight.
M Club – 3rd road – 2 pm to midnight.
Club Sin. Bong Koch 8 – from 3 pm to midnight.
Purple Club. Bong Koch 8 – from 1 pm to midnight.
Club 4.
Excite – 120 Chaloem Phrakiat 23 Alley – from 3 pm to midnight.
Telephone. WV9 V+WG Soi Batman – 9 am to 9 pm.
La Poste. Soi Lengkee - – from 1 pm to midnight.
Paradise. Darkside.
Club Fate. Soi Boomerang. Opens at 18:00 and closes at 04:00.
Hunny Lounge. Soi Honey. Opens at 14:00 and closes at 24:00.
Sweet's Lounge.
Juicy Lucy. Bong Koch 8 – from 2 pm to midnight.
The Chapel. Bong Koch 8 – from 11 am to midnight.
Club Secret. Bong Koch 8 – from 2 pm to midnight.
Bada Bing. Bong Koch 8 – from 1 pm to 11:30 pm.
Babylon. Bong Koch 5 – from 2 pm to midnight.
Carre Blanc. Bong Koch 8 – from 12:30 pm to 11 pm.
This club in the northern part was recommended but I missed the visit:
[URL]https://climax-club-pattaya.com/[/URL] Climax Berlin Pattaya 8 152 Pattaya 3rd Rd, Pattaya City open daily from 9 pm to 5 am Friday and Saturday parties, see schedule.
One clear note to a reader on my generally negative view of Pattaya as a repeat destination is that it lacks, opposite to Latin America, romance, passion, enigma, intrigue all well played like in a theatre there, but not in Pattaya. What you see is a service culture with its massages, oral play, so you can choose between 'shot ti' or 'lon ti' without any real game or foreplay and without any prospect of long-lasting aftertaste.
Here is a typical story. After the flight I took an hour of Thai massage. Chose a gorgeous ladyboy named Emmy, which I would call 'Emmy-500-CC' judged by her plans to upgrade into new bolt-ONS. I said to myself, why not, she could win any of the beauty contests, why not to give her a try in massage. She then led me upstairs, switched off the lights and in 5 minutes started to show me porno videos of what we can do. O, boy. We chatted later, but since she was not proficient in Thai massage, she called me an older lady who tortured me for one hour and I left healed feeling light like a cloud of fine air.
Here is another story. Her name is Anna, and I am not sure if she is a post op or a genuine lady – a question to the audience, what would you say? She is 20, gorgeous, flat chested, athletic, height 175 cm, normal voice, says she is a lady, has a 3 old son and showed me the pictures, has a vertical see-section scar (I am not a doc), has a pussy, which felt a bit less stretchy, although we used condoms and lube, she is a starfish in my mind, does not offer anal, does not like oral as well. She hangs out with ladyboys. She refused twice on my offer which was puzzling. Eventually I told her where I stay and she agreed.
Now a couple of words about my Thai Friendly experience. I used an app on a travel cellphone; it took me some time to upload my photos as it didn't work at the start. I moved the process to a laptop, then back to a mobile and then it worked. You have to verify your photo to start things moving. I used unpaid version and the app allowed me somehow unlimited chats when there was a conversation. Some ladies ghosted on me, some took forever to answer, like one sentence in four hours, so I banned them, some have not agreed on pricing even though have not named the fees themselves. Also, posters can name them as F-females and T-transexuals, but in reality, many of the same sex members for whatever reason are still listed as females. Eventually the available pool was not compelling, it was repetitive and small. Maybe it was that I used the unpaid version, but TF did not work for me, even as I belong to 'any age' that many ladies favour.
What would I suggest to repeating visitors? Well, one night at the elections time, I actually saw a place on Soi Buakhao full of men sipping on their soft drinks, like the Forty Thieves in their cave, not even for one girl, not even for Ali Baba! Camaraderie, and all, I see. But come on, where is the talent? Where are the freelancers? What has happened to birth rate? Of course, I can blame myself, you can blame me, but there is still this impartial view in the air that the quality sucks big time. No matter how the venue is organized, the quality of the talent still sucks. Yes, the dancers are tops off, but they don't know how to dance, how to seduce, what to say, their bodies are mostly ruined. They were like that all the time during previous trips, just this time I was not drunk, and without beer goggles it's tough in Pattaya. It's even tougher for an occasional visitor not embedded into community or online. So, maybe the talent pool in Bangkok is larger, and with a heavier purse and an obstinate commitment to get into a scene where you don't belong as foreigner or a non-Asian foreigner may bear fruit for a repeating fellow. As for me, with my love of Latinas and the simple math the Thai proposal may just not work moving forward.
Some daily notes that you may find useful:
When you plan to take a speed boat to your planned beach on Ko Larn, check upfront if due to waves and weather the option is available for your day. At the Pier the help is limited, and you may not like to take the ferry or take a land transport to get back to the ferry while on the island.
Max Muai Thai maxmuaythai. Co. Th from 7 pm to 9 pm is highly recommended. Take you tirak with you! The ticket is around 1,500 baht.
The Art Street, Soi 13, moved to Pattaya 3rd Rd and Thappraya Rd. Area.
Check your Sunsets here: [URL]https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/thailand/pattaya?month=3&year=2026[/URL].
Take your wife for a dinner here at Hilton: [URL]https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bkkhphi-hilton-pattaya/dining/[/URL] Located on at the top of Hilton Pattaya, on Level 34, Horizon Rooftop Restaurant & Bar 4 pm to 1 am.
Central Pattaya (Central Festival Mall) – recommended for everything, wine, banks, stores.
[URL]https://www.centralpattaya.com/en/home[/URL]
[URL]https://web.mappedin.com/central-pattana/central-pattana-central-pattaya.html[/URL]#.
[URL]https://www.centralpattaya.com/en/tourist-information/vat-refund[/URL]
For inexpensive items [URL]http://www.mikeshoppingmall.com[/URL].
Terminal 21 Pattaya (2018) – Iconic shopping mall themed like an airport. [URL]https://www.terminal21.co.th/pattaya/[/URL] open daily 11 am to 10 pm – food court is recommended.
I may also recommend two quality guest friendly properties where I stayed recently:
Siam at Siam Design Hotel with its Sky Bar / pool / lounge and one of the best views of Pattaya Bay, as well its buffet breakfasts (value 800 THB) and.
Melia Pattaya with its shaded pool, Chinese Restaurant and a Roof Top area with fantastic views of the bay, buffet breakfasts guided by the chef and the concierge service.
Here is the time to post I have offered my '2 satang'. But since it sounds dubious and fleeting and repetitive like the song of the Asian koel in the shrine's garden, I would like to finish with the quote from the illustrious one, the Buddha:
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way".
There is also something very attached to Pattaya: Change is the only permanent thing.
And.
Although human laws are flawed, it does not extend to the laws of karma.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3055545]Let me talk to the newbies (since the experienced guys know the chances of being arrested by the police are akin to being struck by lightning).
Don't worry about the police arresting you for normal mongering activities. In the specific case of going on a boat with a bunch of girls, the boat operators take the one in a million risk, not you. I can't think of any foreign male arrested for mongering in Pattaya over the last five years.
That's not to say that people don't get arrested for "normal" crimes.[/QUOTE]You would like that wouldn't you without any backlash, but the topic this wouldn't be a normal crime and you so boldly lay blame on boat operator when outside of newbie these MF will throw you under the bus than take any responsibility or a fine. If Thai net citizen cry foul over Indian peeing in public when it is done all the time if something happens as slim as it might be to you outside of newbie shit hits the fan you be the first to take off as you do with most potential situation.
Try sticking to what you know best which is continue to live in fantasyland that every Thai women has a sponsor and Thai boyfriend. The rest of us know better LOL.
I am semi retired and have been traveling to Bangkok for around four months each year for the last four years (DTV visa). My previous experiences with Pattaya have been lackluster, so I've been spending most of my time in Bangkok, and when I need some sun and sand, I usually travel down to Rayong. But I needed a change of scenery and so I came to Pattaya this weekend. Walking street still has its beauties, although I find the bar fines a little high (but I also find there are much less aggressive with selling drinks than they are in Nana or Patpong). Soi 6 has a carnival like atmosphere and it might just all be a little too much for me. LK Metro and the surrounding area seems to have potential but I wonder if I'm going to the right bars and go-go clubs because the quality of women looks to be around six or seven.
But I'm beginning to think that the Diamonds in the rough in Pattaya are to be found on ThaiFriendly. I was skimming through the site today and made contact with too many women account. I was on the lookout for someone petite and made contact with several. The girl I settled on wanted a little more than the others (2000 versus the 1200-1500 the others were quoting) but I decided to make the leap.
It turns out she's a barista who works at Central Plaza. At first, when I saw her, I thought I might've made a mistake because it was clear that she had used some filters on her photos, but it was her. But the real surprise occurred when she stripped off her clothes to present to me a tight little 4'10" body of a 22-year-old. Now with someone who is 6 foot three and a little more than double that age, my mind was swirling with devious thoughts.
This leads me to the title I chose for this report. What occurred over the next 90 minutes have me rethinking if I've been mistaken for making my base of operation operations, Bangkok. That little firecracker drained every ounce out of me. Sitting, standing, upright, sideways. Hand, feet, mouth and everything else you could think of. I have nothing left in me and it's only 7:10 PM on a Sunday.
JFC!
[QUOTE=FriendlyGuyHi;3055641]I am semi retired and have been traveling to Bangkok for around four months each year for the last four years (DTV visa). My previous experiences with Pattaya have been lackluster, so I've been spending most of my time in Bangkok, and when I need some sun and sand, I usually travel down to Rayong. But I needed a change of scenery and so I came to Pattaya this weekend. Walking street still has its beauties, although I find the bar fines a little high (but I also find there are much less aggressive with selling drinks than they are in Nana or Patpong). Soi 6 has a carnival like atmosphere and it might just all be a little too much for me. LK Metro and the surrounding area seems to have potential but I wonder if I'm going to the right bars and go-go clubs because the quality of women looks to be around six or seven.
But I'm beginning to think that the Diamonds in the rough in Pattaya are to be found on ThaiFriendly. I was skimming through the site today and made contact with too many women account. I was on the lookout for someone petite and made contact with several. The girl I settled on wanted a little more than the others (2000 versus the 1200-1500 the others were quoting) but I decided to make the leap.[/QUOTE]Just recently signed up and seen this post I'll give my 2 cents. Regular traveller to Thailand I always go phi phi to relax on the beaches and the Pattaya to let loose. Last few times I used to get girls from the clubs mainly from Myst club as I felt good quality ones. Usually charging around between 1,500 to 3,000 depending on the girl. The last time I was there bumped into a Turkish guy who was brilliant told me not to waste time with the club girls and use Thai friendly. And OMG absolute game changer. Met a girl from there who said had a proper job and was doing this to make extra money. Her pictures looked too good to be true but I gave it a try and I kid you not she looked better. She was working at the Hilton in Pattaya and was amazing night. Still friends with her and I can also ask her for discount on Hilton's LOL. But 100% recommend Thai friendly.
[QUOTE=FriendlyGuyHi;3055641]
But I'm beginning to think that the Diamonds in the rough in Pattaya are to be found on ThaiFriendly. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jay2026;3055802]But 100% recommend Thai friendly.[/QUOTE]I concur. Thai Friendly can be very rewarding. Sure, YMMV and it can be hit or miss, but in Pattaya it's usually much more hit than miss these days. Over the years Thai Friendly has become better and better.
By the way, in case you didn't know already, there's a separate thread for TF:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;3055913]I concur. Thai Friendly can be very rewarding. Sure, YMMV and it can be hit or miss, but in Pattaya it's usually much more hit than miss these days. Over the years Thai Friendly has become better and better.
By the way, in case you didn't know already, there's a separate thread for TF:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes 100%. I was in Pattaya during the holidays. It was fun. I was like lost boy in the candy store. Girls are fun and I had girls from 11 am till early morning and they are pretty quick.
I usually start chatting, and if someone agrees to come, it usually takes a beer or two at the bar, and the girl is in. I didn't go out too much. I went out for a walk to see the clubs, but that's about it.
I went to a really good spa an excellent one. Was good. Everthing was packaged a very good experience.
[QUOTE=SwashBuckler77;3056210]Interest level is extremely high. Of course these are normal ladies so not "grabbing your arm hansome man". More of numerous ladies making eye contact for longer than 2 or 3 seconds (even though when I went, I had a lady on my arm) or randomly coming up to you, toasting etc. I never ever cold approach but I certainly warm approach. All the places I went to were warm approach heaven. Absolutely zero white devil vibes (well I am not a white looking person 555).
To clarify, it wasn't Thai only. Bad choice of words on my part. I meant These venues were 99% Thai. The music was in Thai, all the sing-a-long songs are in Thai, the live bands only sung Thai songs etc. A typical westerner might feel uncomfortable. Hell, I felt uncomfortable the very first time I was there but a local Thai lady took me. I quickly learned to sing a long, dance, and make small talk. Just a very different experience going somewhere that you are the only recognizable foreigner in the building. After a few drinks, toasts from randoms (men and women), and dancing. I quickly forgot that I was even the only foreigner.
Now the late late spot (Newbie. Closes at 4 am), there were a handful of foreigners there. It is more of a dancing type club with dj sets and a live cover band. The DJ played some recognizable western music (EDM, Pop, Hip Hop) but the cover band was all Thai music. The DJ would play for like 30 minutes, then the cover band would do 5 or 6 songs. They just kept swapping out throughout the night.[/QUOTE]I would like to advise that these types of [U]Thai Clubs[/U] are all over [B]Pattaya[/B]. No one ever reports on them. [U]I suspect they don't want others to know where they go[/U]. I know I don't! I've been going to them since the first week I was in [B]Pattaya[/B]. I am glad others are also discovering the a different type of nightlife than usually reported on by visiting [B]International Tricks[/B].
As an [B]Sex-Pat[/B], I am pleased to consistently read these reports and see my favorite spots are never mentioned.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;3055954]Yes 100%. I was in Pattaya during the holidays. It was fun. I was like lost boy in the candy store. Girls are fun and I had girls from 11 am till early morning and they are pretty quick.
I usually start chatting, and if someone agrees to come, it usually takes a beer or two at the bar, and the girl is in. I didn't go out too much. I went out for a walk to see the clubs, but that's about it.
I went to a really good spa an excellent one. Was good. Everthing was packaged a very good experience.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the good spa and where, you visited?
Well gentlemen, I haven't posted on here in a couple years, mostly because I've spent nearly all of the intervening time trapped beneath the thighs of a parade of Amazonian beauties and unable to reach my phone to tap out a report.
I kid, of course. But I am sitting on a bus brambling down the road from Pattaya to Bangkok with nothing else to do and in quite a blissful state. So I figured I would write a report.
The hotel. Pineapple residence.
I arrived in Pattaya on Friday afternoon (March 6) and checked into the Pineapple Residence on Soi 4. If you are frugal and minimalist like me, I highly recommend it. Having stayed in many budget hotels across the world, I can tell you it is one of the best bargains I've ever found. Cost is 800-1000 baht tonight, and you get a relatively comfortable bed (no bed in a modest Asian is truly comfortable), ice cold air, hot water, good quality internet, a working fridge, TV, and power outlets that work with your chargers from the US. Plus, they clean your room daily and accommodate requests such as extra pillows, towels, water and toilet paper. It is also extremely quiet at all times of the day, despite being within a stone's throw of the main drag. In the six nights I stayed there, I only occasionally ran into another person in the halls and never heard anything inside my room except the occasional passing motor bike. I swatted a couple of gnats but did not see any type of roach or insect in my room.
Of course, it is possible that I got one of the best rooms at the hotel (3rd floor by the stairs), because I complained bitterly about the one they put me in on the 2nd floor which had not been pre-air conditioned for my arrival and I heard the sound of a saw nearby. But the one I got checked every box for me, was much better than the Baron Beach hotel I stayed at last time which cost about double the price, and there was never a thought of going anywhere else once I settled in. Breakfast costs 150 baht if you can wake up by 10:00 after staying out until the wee hours of the morning. Perhaps the only drawback is that there is no elevator, but that probably goes for most hotels in the area.
The BEST PART, however, is that they have no qualms at all allowing you to bring as many girls as you would like up to your room, with zero hassle, paperwork or judgment. The girl just leaves her ID and the front desk and you barely break stride before hitting the sheets. Once, no one was at the desk and me & my lady just strolled right up to the room.
The action. BEACH ROAD BUFFET & ONE BAR FIND.
Having not slept in a bed for over 24 hours when I arrived, the first thing I did was go to sleep. Woke up around 11 pm, and hit Beach Road where the Pattaya Music Festival was in its final weekend and people were everywhere. The top Beach Road waiting spots were occupoed by throngs of people and tents.
LADY #1 - SWEET BUT FUGLY.
I had saved up my juice for about a week and just needed to get some lead out. I picked one of the closest ladies to Soi 4 and we did the deed for 1000 baht. She got the job done, but in retrospect, it was a terrible decision. She was extremely friendly, mid-30's, and gave the best service she could, but face and body were about a 2/10 compared to the women I saw over the course of the next five days. My standards shot up faster over the course of my stay than the price of oil lately. About the only good things that can be said about that first lady is she helped me clear my mind and she wasn't a lady boy.
LADY #2 - 40 y / O GF EXPERIENCE.
Lady #2 was a big upgrade and no doubt the best lay I'd ever had in Pattaya. She wanted 1500 baht but gave me a "discount" of 1300 - I added a 100 baht tip for 1400. From Northeast Thailand, she was very honest with me that she needed money and had not been screwed in two weeks. The reason for that is pretty plain to me. Aside from being 40, she was a conservative dresser, one of the few ladies on the road wearing dark jeans and just a regular t-shirt. Looked like she was dressed for a Chili Peppers concert in fall weather. Had I known what else was out there, I would not have even stopped to ask her name, but I am damn sure glad I did.
Underneath that plain black t-shirt was one of the nicest sets of natural tits I've ever laid hands on. Taller and with more muscle tone than most Thai women, soft skin and long silky smooth hair with an intoxicating perfume that I can still smell at this very moment. The downside was she required me to wear a condom for oral on the first night. Other than that, the sex was amazing. I made her cum with my tongue and cock, and the following evening she was back in my room blowing me bareskin and riding me like a porn star. We made love with the passion of old flames that had not seen each other in years. Her English skills were good, which is always a plus.
LADY #3 - THE BEST FRIEND CUTIE.
Although my balls were completely drained after two trysts in less than 24 hours with Lady #2, I decided to hit Beach Road again at about 3 am To see what was out there. I ran into Nancy across from the Central Payttaya Mall who drove me back to my hotel at no charge on her own motor bike. Nancy is chubby with a cute face & smile, bubbly personality, and good English skills. We spent most of our time together just talking and laughing. The kind of girl I wish I could take home with me, not for the sex but for her company. At the end, she gave me a BJ and hand job. With how spent I was, it wasnt' easy for me to finish, but Nancy made me cum by jamming her fingers deep into my prostate. That did the trick but also put me out of commission for a little while. I paid her 1000 baht and took her WhatsApp.
LADY #4 - REPEAT FROM LAST VISIT.
While perusing Beach Road the next evening, I ran into a lady I had met on my first visit to Pattaya. (One of the drawbacks to Beach Road is that the more time you spend there, the more it becomes a minefield of former flings.) I had made the mistake of telling this lady I would see her again when I returned, and took her my room for 1000 baht purely out of guilt. We mosly just talked. She attempted a hand job, but it was futile given my physical state. I was happy to see her go on her way and give my body a chance to recover.
LADY #5 - BAR FIND.
On Tuesday, I was walking to the 7-11 across from Soi 6 around 4:30 pm and saw three absolutely gorgeous bar girls crossing the road in cutoff blue jean shorts. Two of them had to be 8's, and if one of them wasn't a 10 she was damn near a 9. 5. Let's just say you don't usually see girls that fine except in music videos.
I waited for them to come out of the store, struck up a convo and followed them back to Hollywood Bar. They let me in the back door and I watched as about 20 fine-as-hell girls said a group prayer before beginning their shift. Three other guys were already sitting in the bar before I got there. As soon as the girls broke the huddle, I went looking for the smoking hot one that I saw crossing the street. The girl I grabbed was just as hot, but was actually a different girl. 25 why / o from East Thailand who looked a little like a more athletic version of Zendaya. Toned legs and a perfectly shaped a $$ that was just crying out for baby oil.
I bought her a lady drink (180 baht) and a beer for myself (100 baht). Her English was awful. Almost every sentence had to be translated. At first the girl seemed quite stand-offish, but after turning on my Western charm and telling her a few jokes I got her to laugh and smile at me. After breaking the ice, I was very direct that I wanted to take her to my hotel and described the things I wanted to do with her. She said she could not leave the bar until 10 pm, but I could take her to my room until the bar closed at 2 am For a 1000 baht bar fine and 4000 baht for her. With how she looked in those little cutoff jean shorts, that didn't seem outrageous. But I asked her what it would cost if I wanted her for a shorter time than that, like two hours. She said 800 baht bar fine and 2500 for her. I'm about as frugal as they come, but I have also learned not to stare a gift horse in the mouth. Especially when that horse is 5 feet, 7 inches of feminine perfection. I told her I'd be back at 10.
I walked down Soi 6 several times and never ran into a really beautiful girl who quoted me less than 5 k. I suspected the reason I got that price is because she supposedly had not been bar fined since the music festival started more than 2 weeks ago. It makes sense because there are many pretty girls in that bar, and many more up and down Soi 6, and she is definitely on the shy side.
(By the way, I think I figured out a way to walk down a go-go alley and check out the inventory without getting constantly accosted. Find a group of 5 or 6 young Indian guys, follow close behind, and let them block for you. Young Indians are like pesky bar girl mosquito spray. Pro tip.).
Anyhow, I waited until 10:30 to go back to the bar, in the hope I might create a little sexual tension by making her wonder if I was really going to show. When I arrived, she seemed to be trying to avoid me. I guessed that she regretted the price she quoted me and didn't want to go with me. I sat in the bar for a little while and drank a very reasonably-priced 60 baht bottle of water. I finally saw her alone and asked her if she was ready go. When I initially talked to her, she typed something that was a red flag. That the two hours we had together did not include the time it took us to walk to the hotel together. I found that comment concerning, because only a clock-watcher says that, and I did not want to fork over a large chunk of baht for a dead fish experience with a girl who was just waiting to leave my room.
Anyone who has read my prior reports knows that it is my standard policy to insist that girls go the extra mile to earn my business. It's not about the 15 minutes, it's about gauging whether I am likely to get good service from this girl or not. So after she told me she was ready to go, I asked if it was okay if our two hours didn't start until we got to the hotel room. She responded that the two hours had to start when we left the bar. Test failed. I told her that I needed to go get something to eat first, and I might come back. By that time it was already 11.
As I was walking back, I felt a little miffed and thought to myself how I would be crazy drop 3300 baht on a girl who wasn't excited to go to my hotel, no matter how good she looked. Been there done that, and it's not a good experience. The other option was Lady #2, who had been blowing up my phone every night since I saw her last, but six hours of anticipation for this bar girl had me wanting to try something new.
So I decided, screw it, I'm going to go back to Hollywood, sit there and enjoy the music, and if I can take one of those beauties in the cutoff jean shorts back to my hotel for 2 hours for what sounded to me like the best deal on the strip (800 + 2500), I'd probably take the chance on it this one time just to see how it turns out.
So I go back to the Hollywood bar, plop down and strike up a conversation with an ex-pat from California, and just observe all the beautiful young ladies milling around the place. Very few of whom gave me the time of day. My Zendaya girl walks over near me after a while and I said Hi. Talked a little bit with me, and I don't recall what was said, but at some point flashed me that little smile. And when I saw her smile, I thought what the heck, this is what I came for right?
A few minutes later, we were back at my hotel with her wearing the exact little cowgirl outfit she wore at the bar (you better believe I insisted on that) and us dancing to music over my Bluetooth speaker. She loosened up quite a bit, and even though she didn't speak five words of English, she sang every single word of Rhianna's "Kiss It Better. " And kiss it was exactly what I did. Gently running my hands and mouth over every inch of her stunning body, while sitting in a chair with her standing in between my legs and swaying to the music. I teased her like that for about eight or nine songs, and she got really turned on by it. By the time I finally took her panties off and laid her on the bed to eat her pussy, she was sopping wet. She blew me while draped over the side of my lap with such light mouth pressure that it couldn't possibly get any self-respecting man off; but just looking at her beautiful body while she was doing it kept me hard as rock and raging with lust. The fact that she wasn't that into me but couldn't deny what her body wanted made the sex that much hotter for me. She was my exotic captive princess for the night.
The ending was a new one for me. She didn't want to take my load in her mouth, so I laid her on the bed sideways in front of me and finished on her perfect butt while admiring her beautiful bronzed body. Probably will be my go-to now when I am bedding a 9 or up.
Earlier that evening, I had wondered if 2 hours with this girl would be enough to do her justice and whether I should go ahead and fork out the extra 1500 baht. To my amazement, we did all that walking, dancing, foreplay, banging her into blissful exhaustion, and then laying pipe porno style. All in no more than an hour and 20 minutes. We showered and then spent the remaining 40 minutes spooning while I watched her play candy crush.
Even though I doubted she was into me at all, I was pleasantly surprised when she messaged me on her own the next evening. I went over to the bar and talked to her, but I wasn't about to fork over another 3300 for her mediocre bedroom skills. And I think she understood that. Would I go another round with her one day? Definitely, but not on this trip.
Instead, I had my eyes set on Beach Road once again for my final night in Pattaya.
LADY #6 - 20 why / O BARGAIN BEAUTY.
I ran into Lady #6 on my way back from shopping at Central. Apparently, Wednesday night is the night to hit Beach Road. The volume had tripled from Monday and the quality was much better. I was half ways planning on ending my trip with ladies 2 or 3, but when I saw the other options, my plans changed quick.
The first one that caught my eye was this cute dark-haired oriental lady with a bob sitting in her lawn chair. That's my weakness. The thought of her short hair bouncing rhythmically above my groin as she milks me with those luscious lips sent shivers through my loins. The second was a cute slim young girl in cutoff jean shorts. Another weakness. Both asked 1000 baht for ST. I took their WhatsApps and went to dinner to weigh my options.
My first instinct was to go with the beautiful bob, but I forgot her name and had neglected to send either one of them a message when I took their WhatsApp. Rookie mistake. I spent a good 7-8 minutes scrolling thru my contacts and cussing myself while trying to figure out which one she was, but in vain. Fortunately, I did remember the second girl's name and sent her a message asking if she was a lady boy. No response. That pretty much confirmed to me that she was a biological male, because no girl who looked that good and had a pussy would be offering herself for 1000 baht.
Exactly one hour and 17 minutes after I messaged her that question, at 1:06 am, she responds "I am a woman. " By the time I saw the message, I was sitting at Hollywood bar shooting the sh*t with Zendaya from the night before, while admiring the scenery and contemplating which of the first four ladies was going to end up in my bed when the bar closed. After the new girl confirmed that she did oral without a condom, I told her to come to my hotel in 20 minutes. I kissed Zendaya goodbye and off I went.
I happened to be walking up to my hotel right as her motor bike arrived, and suddenly I was Chevy Chase and she was the girl in the red corvette. I cannot remember seeing a more angelic figure get off the back of a motor bike in my life. I was so awestruck that as she was paying for her taxi, I covertly snapped two pics of her from the side just so I could memorialize what I was seeing. I have never done that before. She wasn't a 10 or even a 9, but for a 20 year old with long flowing hair and a perfect body, she was everything I dreamed of in that moment.
Not even 10 minutes later, I am laying on the bed with my back pressed against the wall while admiring this girl's ass while she gives me the most perfect. And I emphasize the word perfect. Blow job I can remember getting. Perfect rhythm, pressure, saliva, hand action, everything. I put on some music and when "Stacks On All Sides" by SkaiIsThaGod hit that beat with her doing her thing, I was in some kind of hedonistic heaven. I have good stamina and my Colombian girlfriend is the only one who can get me off with just her mouth; but I had to stop this girl three times to keep from erupting.
Flipped her around for 69 and ate her perfectly tight and tiny jewel of a pussy with her toned little at ss sitting on my face. Then once she was good and wet, pounded her in doggy while standing on the side of the bed until my legs were shaking. This girl made all those little high-pitched ultra feminine squeals and gasps that absolutely drive me crazy, but was also sporadic enough to seem like it was an involuntary response to physical pleasure. Her petite knuckles gripping the bed sheets while I pummeled her from behind is a sight I won't soon forget. I have no clue if she was actually loving it, but as many of you fellas know, once you reach middle age, just the illusion that a 20 year old hottie is getting off on your bedroom moves is worth its weight in gold.
Unlike my Zendaya girl, I made it a point to show this girl minimal affection, because I wanted a completely different experience from the night before. Lady 5 was passionate lovemaking and Lady 6 was just hot sweaty f*cking and pure carnal lust.
I finished in her in mish on my elbows, which is highly unusual for me, but with her gasping and bleating into my ear, it just felt right. My climax was mind-blowing and we were both covered with sweat from head to toe.
Her English skills weren't great and when she was blowing me I asked her if I could do 2 shots for 2,000 baht. She agreed, so after the first one I told we'd lay down and rest a little while before going again. I usually wouldn't even consider trying that, but damn this girl made me horny. Well I didn't get a chance to put my sexual prowess to the test, because after an hour and a half of getting absolutely wrecked, she told me she was too tired to go again. I've never heard of a prostitute turning down the chance to double her fee in the same go, so I was surprised. I paid her exactly 1000 baht. No tip, no taxi. Before she went, she let me take pictures of her body in the mirror. Both naked and with clothes, which I will certainly cherish when I am home reminiscing about our night together. She then walked out the door with a smile and a kiss. I figured I probably wouldn't hear from her again, but about 30 minutes later she was texting me heart stickers and asking when we could see each other again.
My experience with Lady #6 was not the best sex of my life, but given what it cost me and how little effort and emotional / time investment it required to get her in bed, I am confident in saying it was the best-value sex of my life. I had found the holy grail of mongering. The diamond in the rough for the price of quartzite.
Fellas, I am now sitting on this bus going to Bangkok and, as I stare 1,000 yards out the window, I can tell you it is one of the most sickening feelings. I am in utter disbelief that I just left that place voluntarily, with a girl like that begging to f*ck me again tonight and maybe every night for the foreseeable future, for less than it would cost me to take her on a decent date. All to do what, sit in a plane for 20 hours and go back to real life? Such a bitter pill to swallow.
I do understand that it has to be this way though. Nothing good would come from staying. Last night raised my standards to an unrealistic level. From now on, every girl who falls short of Lady #6 will be somewhat of a letdown. And if I stayed and had that same girl five more nights in a row (which is what I probably would do), it would just make it that much harder to leave. I'd usually point you guys to a gem, but not this one. Even though I know she won't be there when I return. Don't bother trying to find her, because you'll never be able to pick her out from the lady boys who look and dress just like her. I just happened to luck out, for once. And when some guy who knows how to spend money the right way takes her off the market, at least I'll know there is nothing I could have done.
I used to read the reports on here about Pattaya, and I was always very skeptical. But now I understand.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;3056281]I bought her a lady drink (180 baht) and a beer for myself (100 baht). Her English was awful. Almost every sentence had to be translated. At first the girl seemed quite stand-offish, but after turning on my Western charm and telling her a few jokes I got her to laugh and smile at me. After breaking the ice, I was very direct that I wanted to take her to my hotel and described the things I wanted to do with her. She said she could not leave the bar until 10 pm, but I could take her to my room until the bar closed at 2 am For a 1000 baht bar fine and 4000 baht for her. With how she looked in those little cutoff jean shorts, that didn't seem outrageous. But I asked her what it would cost if I wanted her for a shorter time than that, like two hours. She said 800 baht bar fine and 2500 for her. I'm about as frugal as they come, but I have also learned not to stare a gift horse in the mouth. Especially when that horse is 5 feet, 7 inches of feminine perfection. I told her I'd be back at 10.[/QUOTE]Pro tip: The price of their room upstairs is 400 baht, price for the girl should never be over 2 K bahts for an hour, especially a bar like Hollywood. No other bullshit needed.
Fuck her once upstairs to know if she is a good girl, and only then bring her back to your hotel the next times if you're satisfied with her.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;3056281]I ran into Nancy across from the Central Payttaya Mall who drove me back to my hotel at no charge on her own motor bike.[/QUOTE]I think it's a White Honda Click motor bike.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3056317]Pro tip: The price of their room upstairs is 400 baht, price for the girl should never be over 2 K bahts for an hour, especially a bar like Hollywood. No other bullshit needed.
Fuck her once upstairs to know if she is a good girl, and only then bring her back to your hotel the next times if you're satisfied with her.[/QUOTE]Also, she took advantage of the BF. 1000 b is the BF after 10 at Hollywood. It gets lower at 12. And, once barfined, the lady doesn't need to return to the bar. So, for 4000 b she should have stayed over. Not leave at 2 as she said.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3056317]Pro tip: The price of their room upstairs is 400 baht, price for the girl should never be over 2 K bahts for an hour, especially a bar like Hollywood. No other bullshit needed.
Fuck her once upstairs to know if she is a good girl, and only then bring her back to your hotel the next times if you're satisfied with her.[/QUOTE]Well, if the choice is 2400 for upstairs at the bar or 2800 to walk her to my hotel on Soi 6, I'm taking the 2800 option. A bar girl is a special occasion splurge for me, there is usually more than enough action to keep me busy. And I haven't even tried any of the other spots that guys post about on here yet.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;3056281]Well gentlemen, I haven't posted on here in a couple years, mostly because I've spent nearly all of the intervening time trapped beneath the thighs of a parade of Amazonian beauties and unable to reach my phone to tap out a report.[/QUOTE]You wrote a great report. [U]Detailed and enjoyable to read[/U]. It should serve as an example to all of the information a trip report should contain. Remember it is not the critics that count. There are plenty of them. Enjoy being a [B]man in the arena[/B] like I am.
[B]Thanks for the excellent report![/B]
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;3056357]Also, she took advantage of the BF. 1000 b is the BF after 10 at Hollywood. It gets lower at 12. And, once barfined, the lady doesn't need to return to the bar. So, for 4000 b she should have stayed over. Not leave at 2 as she said.[/QUOTE]To be fair to her, I was the one who specified 2:00 because I thought that is how it worked. She did start gathering her things right at 2:00 though. Maybe she thought that's when I wanted her to leave. But thanks for letting me know that they don't have to go back to the bar. There may be times in the future when I want to keep a girl for longer, but an hour and a half was plenty for this one.
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;3056357]Also, she took advantage of the BF. 1000 b is the BF after 10 at Hollywood. It gets lower at 12. And, once barfined, the lady doesn't need to return to the bar. So, for 4000 b she should have stayed over. Not leave at 2 as she said.[/QUOTE]Also, I chose the shorter option for 2500, not the 4000 she originally proposed. So my time was up after 2 hours whether or not she had to go back to the bar. I did appreciate that she stuck around and played on her phone in bed until the time was up. I thought maybe she couldn't go back until 2 anyway, but I guess Thai girls just believe in giving you every minute you pay for. Not surprising because they also do all sorts of extra things for you that prostitutes in other countries would never do without demanding additional money. The value and service quality in Thailand is unmatched. That's probably why there is a currency exchange on every corner and no guy ever leaves that country with any baht in his pocket.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3056247]What's the name of the good spa and where, you visited?[/QUOTE]It's Suwon Gentlemen's Nuru Massage. I think around 4 k, but I truly enjoyed it. It was quite good.
Hi,
I and my friends are going to Pattaya and Phuket for a 6 day trip. Any good guide for strip clubs and places to visit? Best if all nude strip club.
Does anybody know where there is a good sauna in Pattaya?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mombie75;3057008]Does anybody know where there is a good sauna in Pattaya?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The Korean sauna on third road (between South Pattaya road and Central road), there's also one on the darkside, nextdoor to Kiss foods restaurant.
I think there are a few others around Pratamnak too, but they might be more expensive.
[QUOTE=RexRhex;3056976]Hi,
I and my friends are going to Pattaya and Phuket for a 6 day trip. Any good guide for strip clubs and places to visit? Best if all nude strip club.[/QUOTE]RTFT, but, the spark notes version of it is;.
Make a triangle starting at Soi 6, go south until you hit the bottom of walking street, then look up 'LK President' hotel and add your third point there.
Everything within there, including on the beach is where you p4 p.