Lineups occur every hour on the 1/2 hour.
That's twice an hour guys!
YES they take plastic including AMEX.
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Lineups occur every hour on the 1/2 hour.
That's twice an hour guys!
YES they take plastic including AMEX.
[QUOTE=Canyon]I've heard a lot of you talk about the racetrack in the basement of the Lisboa Hotel, but I'm not sure what you mean. Is it an actual racetrack with horses? If so, it doesn't seem as if a racetrack would fit in a hotel basement. I've also thought it might be a term used to describe a ring of shops with girls walking around looking for guys. What is it?[/QUOTE]
You have been a member since Mach 2004 and don't know what is the racetrack. It's a pickup place for dogs in the basement of the Lisboa Hotel. The dogs run around a track, RTFF.
[QUOTE=Canyon]I've heard a lot of you talk about the racetrack in the basement of the Lisboa Hotel, but I'm not sure what you mean. Is it an actual racetrack with horses? If so, it doesn't seem as if a racetrack would fit in a hotel basement. I've also thought it might be a term used to describe a ring of shops with girls walking around looking for guys. What is it?[/QUOTE]
It is called Lisboa Racetrack because this is where girls would walk using a predefined route from the hotel fruit shop along the basement food court and shops turn around and repeat the route much like a racetrack which seems like a fitting name as this is the part of the casino where you place bets on races.
[QUOTE=Mongerer69]Lineups occur every hour on the 1/2 hour.
That's twice an hour guys!
YES they take plastic including AMEX.[/QUOTE]
NICE!!!!!!!! Thank You for the information. I did a fair amount of research on 18 Sauna, but I just couldn't figure that piece out as it was never directly provided. Now I can relax, wander around Hong Kong during the day and get there whenever I feel like it. Was planning a late afternoon sauna visit followed by some casino action later that evening and then back to HKG by midnight. SCORE!!!!!
Hi All,
After some very nice reports about Macau I decided to go over for some days from Hongkong, but should have better stayed in HK. Well, at least I won some money in the Casino, that is about the good part. Another well, I have to admit there were also some fun parts, but I made two wrong decissions about the girls I have chosen and that is what makes it a desaster.
After arrival I went directly to the East Spa Sauna at the Waldo Hotel, easy to find, nice welcome and brought up to the floor. The atmosphere is quite nice there, the usual change of dresses and then to the shower area. After I was standing below the shower a nice young lady came and hinted me to stop the water. Ok, so I did and she, in her little dress, started to wash me from head to toe. This was nice and followed by a ten second BBBJ.
So far so good, I then headed into the pool and my washing lady asked me if she can join for another 258 I think. Fine, come in young lady. She did a very, very mechanical job on me, rubbing her naked body all over mine in the water, but it was so mechanical that I did not even get an erection, anyways, nice to have a beautiful girl next to you in the water and playing a bit with her.
Then off to the relaxation area, quite fine but annoying was the constant extra offers, I said no to fot-massage, ear cleaning, head massage, manicures and pedicures at least 15 times during half an hour, the same girls or guys kept coming back all the time. OK, some nice food from the menu for free, then realised that only one glass of beer is free, the rest to pay, ok, no problem. The manager also constantly annoyed me by asking me all five minutes if I am ready to choose a girl. Damn it, I said I want to wait for the show before I decide! It was about 6pm and they told me that the show will start at 7pm, so what is so complicated to understand that I want to wait?
Finally the show sarted and was as described in a previous post, quite funny, but another annoying thing that the girls were wearing hats and huge sun-glasses, so you could not see their faces.
Anyways, I then was nearly forced to decide and have chosen number 27, a real cute and beautiful girl with a great body. Then I got a menu list and a pen! On the menu were about 25 different "extras" to choose from, you were allowed to tick 6 of them as an extra. It ranged from "kissing ear" to "stuffing ice into the asshole with the tongue of the laddy" and fire and ice BJ and whatsoever. I ticked six and thought it was a bit strange as most of these things would just be standard in a good sauna. After ten minutes or so the room was ready and we were asked to leave. Nice room, clean, spacious and just fine.
In the shower with the girl and she washed me, we tried to communicate, but was impossible, still she was fun and giggling so I thought it will be nice.
It was not, it was one of the most unerotic sessions I have had during my mongering career!
She started by putting the list with the "Extras" next to me and then finalised her preparation: Getting Kleenex, a lot of it next to us, ice water, hot water, the condoms, Shower caps, Listerine and good knows what else, this took about five minutes. Fine. Then she started working of the list. I mean literally that is what she did, she looked at it and saw something like "rubbing the naked body on back", yes, then she did that. Mechanically. Then "licking feet and hand", put the two shower caps over my feet and licked a bit on them, WTF? And she constantly used the Kleenex, she licked my left shoulder, stopped and whiped off with the Kleenex; licking right shoulder, whiping off with the Kleenex. Kising nipple left, whipe off with the Kleenex and so on. Annoying and I was about to stop the whole story, was really thinking of calling it an interesting experience with no shot.
She saved it a little by starting the fire and ice blow job, BBBJ, her technique was quite nice, but again, licking my left ball followed by a Kleenex procedure. I just wanted to get over it and signalled her that she should just continue to suck, which she did and finally I came with a lot of concentration in her hands. Oh, followed by a looot of Kleenex action obviously.
I think she used nearly a full package of it. If she gets a commision by the company producing these things?
Common shower and off I went back to the relaxation room, not really relaxed, but annoyed. Spoke to a Japanese guy next to me and he reported about the same thing.
And here again, I coud not get rid of all the "Extra" offers, they came and harrassed me constantly which was so anoying that I finally said yes to a thigh massage by a nice Thai Lady.
She in fact gave me a nice massage and told me that she could not finish me off as it was not allowed, anyways it was too close to the previous shot.
Then I left, bcs the extra selling was so aggressive that I felt like beeing on a turkish bazaar (sorry, nothing against it, but after a while just too aggressive).
I had to settle a bill of 2K something for the whole experience.
All in all I was very unsatisfied, felt ripped off and would never go back again, eventhough I know it is a hit or miss with the lady you choose.
Hope you make better experiences, nevertheless I tried another Sauna today and had a similar experience, I now started to hate Kleenex! Will report in detail later.
Have fun,
Schaf
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Hi Schaf
Thanks for the report ! I can feel your frustration ,has anyone here had a similar experience ?
I've been twice to East Spa sauna and enjoyed the place eating, drinking ( a lot) than jacuzzi and massage sessions but never took a girl for sex there coz I suspected it would be too mechanical and wouldn't be worth the price. Probably will hit 18 this trip. And definetely Venetian FLs
on arriving at the shun tak center i bought a hk$1680 (?) voucher for east spa and a discount admission to the japan av show at the lisboa for hk$250 (vs 380 at the grand lisboa). after checking into my hotel (the emperor--good central location) i had all afternoon to kill as i planned to go the east spa after the av show, so just at random bumped into the windsor spa. i opted for a 1 hour package for hk$878 and was taken into the changing room where a young filipino man packed my clothes in my locker and gave me a towel and my keys on a wrist-band. they warned me that as it was only 1:00 on a weekday there might not be as many girls as later, but i only needed one.
after showering i was given shorts and tunic and led to the lounge were two other punters were lying about reading magazines. complementary orange juice soon arrived, and after a bit of noshing a lineup of 4 girls was produced. all of the girls were chinese, all were beautiful with similar faces, modest pushed-up breasts and sleek (not to say flat) bottoms, and i picked #389 by virtue of her smile. her name was something like fang-fang and was a real sweetheart. she took me hand-in-hand (isn’t that a universal custom?) back to a great room where she would have stripped off in seconds if i hadn’t stopped her and explained that “i want to help!” the unveiling accomplished, a neat pussy was revealed with inner lips that disappeared when the legs were together. we proceeded to the shower and another thorough cleaning-up. she wasn’t as meticulous with my rear as i had hoped.
back on bed i lay face down and let her go through the routine. she brushed her breasts quite charmingly all over my back, then flipped me and did the same with my front. she was very amused when i pulled her around to get a better view of her cookie. she did a little cat-bath (with lots of kleenex to wipe as she went—something of an annoyance), some fire-and-ice, and finally some major ball-licking/sucking. i tried to get a bit going on her side and while her pussy was moist, and her clit definitely engorged (look it up), none of my tricks got her off the rails to where i wanted her to be. we finished with a very acceptable hand-job (my norm). fangfang was a sweet, pretty, eager-to-please gal with nice bolt-ons that have a very natural feel in action. recommended.
back in the lounge i consumed some apple juice and a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich and napped for an hour.
i meandered over to the grand lisboa, found the rock-za hall and exchanged my voucher for the best seat at the 8:30 show. i had an amazing reuben in the deli on the balcony of the grand lisboa and sipped a carlsberg while watching three girls do pole routines behind the main-bar below. they did a great job, considering their ending point was covered tops and the kind of bikini bottom that seems modest in front but shows off all of the buns with great effect.
looking for a straight massage before show-time, i found a place very close in the beverly hotel that offered hk$358 for 45 minute shanghai massage or $398 for the same “+handjob”. that’s exactly what the sign said, and the young girl at the receptionist repeated it verbatim. i opted for the non-handjob version but upgraded to the 90-minute version for hk$498. it was a very decent massage in a comfortable but tiny massage room with no music? i almost dozed, but woke up when my masseuse—a cute little thing with red tunic and panties—started to rub cream into my inner thighs and stroke very near the business area.
on the flip the teasing continued with inner-thigh massage, stomach massage—and periodically i explained by my pointing at my erect penis and saying “nothing for him!” or, “no! back to sleep!” she kept testing my resolve, though, and it amused her a lot that i didn’t want a hj. of course, i *did* want a hj, but needed to save something for the east spa. finally she got on the table between my legs and began to seriously massage my groin cracks and scrotum. it was awfully nice, and i thought i would pop, but stuck by my guns—so to speak—and our time ended happily. and prematurely, as the clock in the massage room was 20 minutes fast, by the way.
back at the lisboa i watched the bar show and sipped a bear for 20 minutes before reclaiming my awesome seat at the rock-za show: first-row, centered, and exactly at the end of the runway. the show was a perfect example of wholesome japanese strip-theater. seven beautiful girls—almost identical in breast size, overall figure, pussy configuration and unshaved little pubic-beards—did wonderful things for about an hour.
the first set will give you the idea. five girls were on stage in kimonos, somehow tethered to ribbons that dangled from the ceiling, dancing to a hot beat with projected “stars” whizzing against the backdrop. it was all energy, beat, and motion. in the second song the girls slipped their ribbons and took those winding sashes off each other and were soon standing topless in seductively arrayed kimonos. the lead girl ambled artistically out to the end of the runway and proceeded to take off her kimono, leaving only a transparent linen wrap and began to do slow, artistic gymnastic moves while the stage rotated. every pubic hair, every bit of labial equipment was on abundant display for several minutes until she artistically retreated and the second set began.
the set themes varied, but mostly in costume and dance style: the second began with four girls in 20’s-style flapper outfits and ended with one girl posing nude a la the first set; the third set began with four girls in long fur-trimmed vampish gowns, the fourth involved four hot warrior babes (sans katana, sadly) and a kimono-clad princess; the fifth was a flamenco-themed number with lots of stamping of high-backed shoes, etc. of course, each set ends with one girl being naked and posing, so you can see this show was all about tradition. the only aspect omitted was the traditional (in some places) posing for polaroids after each solo set, but maybe they only do that in the lower dives in tokyo that i know and love.
to wrap up the av show, one of the most notable involved group of can-can themed dancers who reappeared and did a kind of runway-show one-by-one where they sashayed down, stripped off, slung their dresses over their shoulder, and strutted away exactly as they do it in milan. this one ended with a bride—complete with tiara, diamond choker, and jeweled shoes—tossing her bouquet followed by her dress (a custom that i would like to see become more widespread) and proceeded to do the final set all blazing with diamonds and nude elegance. another very hot number began with two caped girls as butterflies, one wearing a black beaded wig and matching waist beads that dangled around but did not interfere with the view of her cookie. her partner wore the same except white. they did an amazing duo dance that was very sensuous, totally revealing, and more like girl-friends than girl-lovers.
note that most japanese strip-theater is not grossly sensual, but seems to strive for "classy elegance"--along with a good clear look at the pink bits. poise seems to be the girls chief attribute.
well, to say i was a bit randy is beyond obvious. i made my way to the waldo hotel—an easy walk but i foolishly took a taxi—and up to the east spa. it made an immediately positive impression. the front staff are all female, and after taking my voucher and getting my name a relay team of young indonesian girls took me to my locker, disrobed me, toweled me up, and took me to the shower area where i was handed over to a cute chinese girl in a two-piece outfit that looked like something out of the jetsons. she pointed me into a shower where i began to shower and had hardly gotten wet when she turned off the water and motioned that i sit on the little seat. soon she soaped me up and gave my penis many more strokes than seemed absolutely necessary. i think this was also a kind of short-arm inspection, as she peered at every area quite carefully. then i was to stand and turn around and my rear end and back had its turn.
then it was rinse time and after i was all rinsed i turned off the shower to dry but my shower girl insisted that i sit down again. as a side note, i noted that one of the shower stalls across the way had a lovely naked girl soaping up! wtf? my shower girl swished some mouthwash around and proceeded to envelop my penis into what i assume was both an enticing mini-blowjob combined with sanitary rinse. wow!
a “show” had just started, so i was relegated to a secondary lounge until it was over. i fought off the massage people, ordered an apple juice, and after the show the manager, kevin, came in to explain my ticket options. i had one hk$248 menu-item included; i opted for a 20 minute lap-dance in the hot-tub with a hot gal with bolt-ons stiffer than i like. she was really sweet, and could have rubbed me to an orgasm in the tub in a matter of seconds. i spent most of the time fending her off, and feeling her up in a totally uninhibited way. oddly, her pussy was almost undetectable by feel—not an asset, in my opinion. back in the lounge i chatted with mai-tai, one of the thigh massage ladies, who was very persistent but i didn’t need any genital stimulation yet! after the hot-tub lap it was another round of showering, and my provider showered up as well. that explains the naked girl showering on the first of my many showers at east.
finally it was time for “the show.”
the show at east is a very clever marketing tool. in addition to a line-up, the audience interaction is wonderful. i think the first offering was to straddle the punters lounges and deliver a breast rub. i noticed that as i enjoyed the warm softness of girl all over my front i could look over her shoulder and see a back-view of the pussies of all the girls doing the chaps in the lounge chairs facing me. the little black nylon outfits they wore could be pulled down to hip level but concealed nothing. then the lineup switched, and the girls opened our tops and sucked our nipples, then –switch!- they opened their tops and delivered us little vibrators to buzz their nipples. the final switch involved reaching into our shorts and massaging our johnsons. afterwards the cry went out, choose! choose!
it was very effective; i would have chosen any of them. i settled for #18, a bouncy girl who had almost nipple-licked me into unconsciousness (i’m ticklish). she was an awesome choice—all fun, all girl, fantastic attitude. back in the fairly posh room i undressed her, we had a great shower together—and she cleaned up my nether regions very auspiciously—before returning to the towel spread bed. her routine was typical: breast rub all over, then an ice cube in her mouth and made my flesh pucker all over my back with it. finally she zeroed in on my bottom and between her tongue and the ice i doubt that my anus will ever be the same.
when it all became a bit too intense i tried my erotic turn-on tricks with her but she pled “too sensitive,” so i relented. i needed to drag things out, so we tried every kind of petting i could think of. i got a chair and she did awesome nude laps—front and back—and then i put her in the chair and did the male-stripper version to her. she thought that was hilarious! with her back on my lap i got her pussy straddling my thigh (with my hand thoughtfully place palm up) and she fell to riding the rail. this time she responded almost immediately: wet, erect clit, and hardly seemed conscious that she was getting turned on. her back and belly sweated up, and she seemed right on the edge of a great orgasm, but couldn’t get there. i transitioned to the bed and with her lying on my body, head in my neck, and hand under her pussy, continued. i think the “head in the pillow” all nestled against my neck and hair is a good security blanket for shy girls. anyway, in minutes she was writhing like a maniac and humping my leg for all she was worth.
i used every second of our time, and she never let up for a half-second. fun, all-there, eager, as cute as could be—my gal did me proud. i think her name is sha-peen-uh, but ask for #18 and say johnny says hi.
by now i was exhausted, took my leave sadly, tipped the indonesian girl who had shined my shoes, and staggered back to the emperor.
i had recovered enough by the next afternoon to try another highlight on the tour—darling i, and it was, as advertised, an easy walk from the ferry terminal via the second-story walkway. in fact, just go until you come to the first elevator, descend, and enter right.
i thought the building a bit dingy, and inside it was all a bit more intimate and faded than i had expected. the manager explained that the girls in the area on the right were just about to go off shift were on “happy hour” and roughly hk$300 less than the girls in the “fresh” collection on the left. i opted for the $$ and picked number 601, miss yu from vietnam. she was a real sweetie with large real breasts, the typical barely-there bottom, an angelic face and wonderful attitude. if this had been my first event on arrival it would have been a world-class memory, but i had so many sweethearts in the last 24 hours that her skills—especially at body-to-body in the tub—just didn’t blow my mind, although they definitely should have. all in all a good experience, but perhaps macau just has a way of getting one to the point of thinking, “girls! meh.”
yu saw me back through the fishbowl area and onto the elevator and i noticed that there were many more girls, including a stunning blond sitting in queenly splendor in her very own viewing area. i wanted to stare and ask questions, but they were very definitely hustling me out and no doubt she was some e. european iceberg with a big price tag.
ps another great macau adventure is to do the skywalk, climb, or bungee at the macau tower. definitely an awesome experience.
I'll be going to Macao and I have a few more questions after reading the forum. I would appreciate some help from some of you veterans.
1. Can you walk in a a sauna and look at the girls and facilities before deciding to stay or do you have to pay and stay once you're in?
2. The Venetian website shows some nice suites for reasonable prices. Is this a good place to stay and how are the freelancers there?
3. Are the papasans and hosts at the saunas helpful and reliable in recommending girls?
4. How have people found their experience with girls picked up in the basement of the Lisboa Hotel? How much? How was the service? Go to her room or your rooom?
5. Is Darlings 1 a sauna like Rio, 18 and East Spa or is it a massage parlor?
6. Can someone give additional commentary on the facilities and girls at Rio, 18 and East Spa. I heard Rio had better facilities and nicer girls, but more selection at 18. Any recommendations?
Thank you very much.
[QUOTE=Canyon]I'll be going to Macao and I have a few more questions after reading the forum. I would appreciate some help from some of you veterans.
1. Can you walk in a a sauna and look at the girls and facilities before deciding to stay or do you have to pay and stay once you're in?
2. The Venetian website shows some nice suites for reasonable prices. Is this a good place to stay and how are the freelancers there?
3. Are the papasans and hosts at the saunas helpful and reliable in recommending girls?
4. How have people found their experience with girls picked up in the basement of the Lisboa Hotel? How much? How was the service? Go to her room or your rooom?
5. Is Darlings 1 a sauna like Rio, 18 and East Spa or is it a massage parlor?
6. Can someone give additional commentary on the facilities and girls at Rio, 18 and East Spa. I heard Rio had better facilities and nicer girls, but more selection at 18. Any recommendations?
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]
1. No, but the entry including free food, drinks and facilities is usually only around 300 MP if you do not pick a girl
2. Location is not the best for the sauna and nightclub scene
3. Yes, usually they are
4. Have not personally, but most I know say it is shit service. Price around 800-1000 depending on your ethnic origin. You go to her room.
5. No, Darlings 1 is a fishbowl kind of place where you do not really stay other than for the sex
6. Rio facilities are very good and good looking girls. 18 has more number of girls and IMO just as good looking girls. I find the best saunas to be the more smaller ones like Golden sauna, Sanado, Boss and Excellent, but that is my personal opinion. All of them have enough selection for my taste (usually around 20-40 girls) and they are about 40% cheaper than Rio and 18. Staff there is more personal and fun to hang around with (inside and outside of the club ;-)
[QUOTE=Henio]6. Rio facilities are very good and good looking girls. 18 has more number of girls and IMO just as good looking girls. I find the best saunas to be the more smaller ones like Golden sauna, Sanado, Boss and Excellent, but that is my personal opinion. All of them have enough selection for my taste (usually around 20-40 girls) and they are about 40% cheaper than Rio and 18. Staff there is more personal and fun to hang around with (inside and outside of the club ;-)[/QUOTE]
Interesting comment... During my first experience, being lazy I stayed at the Rio only (was in same hotel) but you made a good point on the last sentence, very appealing.
I found the staff at Rio nice, ready to laugh. I tried to hook up with one of the indonesian waitresses, but it needs patience and time, I feel. They surely have strict rules and there is a control room that surely monitors lots of things in the big room (might even control in the "small room, lol, who knows, jsut for security purposes, would not blame them). So if they see a girl chatting too long with a customer they might find a way to avoid that.
Are you telling us that at the small ones it is easier to pick up some of the stuff for an "after party"?
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Are you telling us that at the small ones it is easier to pick up some of the stuff for an "after party"?[/QUOTE] If you have any kind of game, it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Remember it is a numbers game, just ask many enough and you will end up with plenty. You need to be prepared to go clubbin' with them and stuff like that and then you hit your hotel room.
Having said that, macau nightclubs are the easiest place in the world to pick up a girl for the night, pros, semi-pros, amateurs or just your regular horny girl.
The smaller clubs are much less restrictive than 18 and Rio when it comes to interaction with the staff.
Henio, thank you very much for the information and for the clarity of your writing. It was very useful. You mentioned that it was easy to pick up girls in Macao nightclubs. Can you recommend two or three clubs? Also, if I pick up a girl in the nightclub, is service likely to be better than a girl from the racetrack at Lisboa? I know YMMV and that it's hard to say without knowing the individual girls, but in general, do you think it makes more sense to go fishing in a nightclub rather than in the racetrack?
[QUOTE=Canyon]Henio, thank you very much for the information and for the clarity of your writing. It was very useful. You mentioned that it was easy to pick up girls in Macao nightclubs. Can you recommend two or three clubs? Also, if I pick up a girl in the nightclub, is service likely to be better than a girl from the racetrack at Lisboa? I know YMMV and that it's hard to say without knowing the individual girls, but in general, do you think it makes more sense to go fishing in a nightclub rather than in the racetrack?[/QUOTE] Apples and Oranges. You are usually not gonna pick up a Chinese girl in a nightclub, but usually a Indo or Phil girl. Possibly a Russian sauna girl off duty (but expect to pay for that). If you have game, you pick up a freebie at the nightclubs.
Here are some nightclubs
Lions Bar at MGM (has been picking up lately and starts a bit earlier than the others)
D2 (dont go before 2am)
MP3 (Small club by the waterfront). Nice bar next to it that is a great pickup spot as well during the early evening
MP4 (only open weekends...and Thursdays I think). Has been slow lately
Bellini lounge at the Venetian. Sometimes good, sometimes kind of empty
DD3 (mostly Chinese and Vietnamese there...not a good place for westerners to pick up). I have only been there once and did not like it much
It has been 2 years since I was last in Macau. Went to Windsor Sauna last night, behind the Holiday Inn. Can not say enough good things. Nice atmosphere, many of the staff speak some English, about 30 girls in the line up.
All looked Chinese. Most 7-8. Service was excellent, room and shower very nice, food good and all in for 896. No add ons, no extras, oh, you can opt for a 60 minute massage after sex for another 200HK.
Today hit the lunch buffet at the Sands. 119HK, excellent spread including sushi, sashimi, smoked fish, shrimp, hot food included seafood, lamb chops and some carved meats all very nicely done, along with desserts.
After lunch, although I could barely walk, I waddled over to Lei Lei in the scary old mall across from the Golden Dragon. 90 minute massage and handjob was 320HK. Girl was very cute and tiny. She did a fine job too, quite a bargain in an expensive city. Full service was 550 but I don't think you get a line up. Not sure. Small place, basic rooms, I would assume mostly locals, its well hidden.
Henio, Thank you for the information.