FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Ortos]I am quite confident in saying that the general standard of beauty in Partytreff girls would NOT stack up very well with the same average standard at the big FKKs. This should be expected. One does not wait for the same quality of food at an all-you-can-eat buffet in Vegas as you would find in a 3-star Michelen kitchen, right?

O[/QUOTE]
Hey O,

As a fan of both genres, in general I agree with you, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.

Visited Pussy Club Wuppertal yesterday together with our PT expert Wan King and a newer member, and of the 17 women there, 6-7 of them would fit right into some of the finer FKK clubs in terms of looks and with their skill sets would probably do rather well. I was very pleasantly surprised since the overall looks quality of PT women over the last couple of years has deteriorated if that was possible, so this was a very refreshing change for the better.

Have to say that there are some gems in other clubs, but you need to sift through some very unattratctive sludge to find them, since as you say the general standard of beauty just doesn't stack up.

Need to keep a closer eye on the Pussy Club chain, now with 4 PT's around Germany. I spoke yesterday with one of the women there who works with the management in helping set up their clubs. Their strategy is to bring FKK club standards to the PT scene in terms of facility and SP. Their Wuppertal facility is very nicely done; Nice furnishings. classy atmosphere, constantly being cleaned, hands-on management, nice sauna and relaxation area, in-house masseuse, nice size and well- fitted rooms, and there's even a choice of robe or towel when you come in. Everything except the food selection (at least in Vegas you'd find something to eat at the buffet and they replenish the serving trays when they're emptied) would stack up very nicely against some of the better known FKK's, including my own club of choice.

Will be interesting to observe over time, if they can stick to their philosophy and maintain these standards. I was at their Berlin club a couple of months ago and came away very unsatisfied with the ambience and facility. Just hope that that's another exception to a rule...

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey O,

As a fan of both genres, in general I agree with you, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.

Visited Pussy Club Wuppertal yesterday together with our PT expert Wan King and a newer member, and of the 17 women there, 6-7 of them would fit right into some of the finer FKK clubs in terms of looks and with their skill sets would probably do rather well. I was very pleasantly surprised since the overall looks quality of PT women over the last couple of years has deteriorated if that was possible, so this was a very refreshing change for the better.

Have to say that there are some gems in other clubs, but you need to sift through some very unattratctive sludge to find them, since as you say the general standard of beauty just doesn't stack up.

Need to keep a closer eye on the Pussy Club chain, now with 4 PT's around Germany...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that additional info, clearly gathered in a "hands on" fashion...or in WK's case, gathered in a "tounge-in-ass" manner, I imagine!

This is a very interesting development, this Pussy Club in Wuppertal. And of course you are more than correct to point out that even across the board in the PT club world, one can always find gems both in terms of looks and performance. The question is: does on really want to sift through the shit, etc.?

But with the possibility that clubs like the one in Wuppertal you mention bridging the gap between FKKs and PTs, we may have to re-write the comparison text describing the differences between the two...

Ortos

An article that mentions Artemis (with some photos).

About the state of the market in general:

[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGUxmkIXxddwuLJKc4mmTT6tMdugD98SH9500[/url]

Spent an evening at Artemis last week and compared to previous visits I found the selection more limited and the whole experience somewhat less satisfying though I still did sample four of the women who were there. I went on a Thursday night and I have usually been on Fridays previously and this may explain something.

I was attacked by a bunch of Romanian girls soon after entering the lounge and especially one duo who looked like they pretty much only worked as a pair. Neither of the two were especially attractive and I did not like their hard sell approach.

Eventually I decided to go with Sasha, also a Romanian who was not especially pretty (6) but seemed to have better chemistry and agreed to DFK and said she was especially good at fellatio. She was attentive in a professional way but gave a good BJ and was willing to try various positions to get me off. Not memorable but not a bad start to the evening.

Off to the sauna and steam to clean off and shower and back to the lounge. I was approached by a tall Russian woman from Siberia who I found quite enticing but I did not want to go again so soon and told her I would look for in 15 minutes. An dark haired Persian woman (Michelle?) was waiting close by and pounced on me the second the Russian walked away. She seemed to really want to go with me and we chatted clumsily for awhile as she did not speak great English and I did not speak great German or Persian. She was touching me,kissing me and caressing all the while we were talking and seemed to be in no hurry to go up to a room. Finally we went up and she was into very slow, languorous kissing and caressing. Her BJ technique was wet and sensual but I prefer strong suction and she moaned loudly when I went down on her. We started off in CG and soon were in pounding away in mish and some kind of sideways position. She was trying really hard to keep GFE vibe through all this but I was in a pound em and cum mode so it was kind of wasted on me. She seemed disappointed that I did not want to prolong and slow down our encounter and I came during a rapid rabbit hump motion while she had her arms and legs wrapped around me.

Back to the sauna and pool and I found that the jacuzzi can be quite pleasurable. Anyway, decided to just relax for a bit and sat in Kino and watched a guy really do this girl for everybody's viewing pleasure.

After a short nap in the smokeless downstairs room went up to look for my next friend. Too bad that more girls did not hang around downstairs as, the air is much cleaner and it is much quieter and easier to get to know a girl before going off to the room.

I saw this Czech girl with full lips and a great smile, a little bit heavier, at the bar who seemed to be quite popular. her smile really seemed to be genuine and she had a great attitude. I asked if she would lie with me on the couch for awhile. She said her name was Ludzig or something like that and she cuddled with me offering me easy access to her soft parts and occasionally touching me along my thigh and dick in a delicate way. She seemed to be in no hurry to go up and seemed content to be cuddling. After awhile she had me hot and bothered and off we went to the room. She was the best session of the night. She told me she had not cum that night so I offered to DATY her to an orgasm. She really got into it and there was a lot of kissing and sucking along the way and it was pretty clear that she came as she was too sensitive for a while after that to be touched there. She then gave me the most amazing blow job - great suction and she really knew what to do with the balls and surrounding area to make it extra special. After awhile I told her to climb on and again we started in CG. She was really skilled in in her pussy muscles and I could feel her coaxing me as she slid back and forth. I rolled her over and wanted to be on top as she was really soft and comfortable and I really liked the way her soft and real breasts squished against my chest as I slid in and out of her. I did not last long as she had me on the verge of coming with her BJ. Great session and I recommend her if you like bigger women. I paid her 60 even though we had been together pretty close to an hour - she seemed happy and and felt that her orgasm time did not count.

I ended the evening with a German girl called Jane - tall and skinny with blonde hair. IN the Kino where we gave the old guys a late night live show - she was all business and and while she got me hard and was competent with her blow job - it felt kind of mechanical and I just wanted to cum and be over with it. So after a while I told her to climb on and finished quickly in CG as I was not into it. Would not recommend her.

I guess not bad for an evening but I have had much more fun at Artemis and except for the Czech girl I would not repeat. Usually there are at least 10 girls I would really like to be with but on this night there were barely five and really only 3 that I really wanted to be with. Also too many girls who just come up to you and say "lets go room ".

So continuing my report, after visiting Moase and GT, I traveled to Berlin to go to Artemis. Love Berlin. Such a great city. Artemis is just the icing on the cake. The first thing to report is the increase in entry fee to 80 euros since my visit last summer. I found this surprising due to the economy. I guess they feel that those who will pay 70, will also pay 80 without affecting the total numbers.

Anyway, as previously reported, I was a little "damaged" due to too much sex at GT (I guess that would classified as "an FKK injury") so I knew that I would only be able to see 1 girl. After eating and working out I was frustrated that I couldn't even find 1 girl that I liked! Luckily, after a few hours I was able to find 1 such girl who I loved. Her name is Sarai (? ) and she is from Germany. Skinny, young, beautiful, model-type about 23 years old. Dark tan, straight shoulder-length dark hair and bright green eyes. She spoke great English and we had a good conversation. In the room, great DFK (YMMV), BBBJ, and sex in whatever positions I wanted. No anal but very friendly spirited service. She also recently got implants which I actually thought were real until she told me. I guess she was totally flat before. I give her Face: 9/Body: 10/Service: 9/Attitude: 9. She was so great that I came back 2 nights later and repeated with her an hour and a half. While I was leaving that second night I was happy to see some other hot girls there which restored my faith in Artemis for a return visit.

As an observation for those who care, I noticed that Artemis had many more caucasian blondes (which I like) working there than did Oase and GT (more dark-haired girls). And I don't mean Romanians with dyed blond hair but more German/Dutch/Scandinavian looking.

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Spent last weekend in Berlin. And was able to fit in some sightseeing in addition to my trip to Artemis.

Followed the directions in this thread using the S bahn – and they were perfect. 15 minutes from downtown to the valuables locker. Not bad! Anyway, arrived around 9 PM on Saturday. Put my valuables away – took a quick shower (very short shower cycle – even more annoying than Oase! ). Took a quick run through the club – and it was obvious, most of the action is around the bar (or the electronic maj jong machines! )- and that the guys outnumbered the girls – AND that there was a 10-15 minute wait for rooms. Should have realized that I was in for a tough night.

Spent the first 30 minutes scoping out the talent – and I was a little disappointed with the quality. Of course, YMMV, we all have our personal preferences and it was busy, so this is by no means a slam on Artemis. Approached by a girl from Brazil, from India – neither of interest – but interesting international feel. The facilities are very impressive. The bar area is large – with lots of places to get to know someone. The two kinos are good (rarely saw anyone in the downstairs kino – surprising.). Same with the downstairs bar – only saw guys sleeping there. The pool is impressive – and the weight room. The outside patio (very small – not at all like Oase or World) – off of the weight room was closed. Most of my time was spent in the bar area.

Eventually spotted a model-type German blonde named Sally. Smiled and nodded, she came up to the bar. Normally, she is not my type – she was 170 cm (little taller than I like), blonde/ brown eyes (that is good! ), C or D cup bolt ons (normally breast size isn’t important – but prefer natural). HOWEVER, she was very easy to talk to, we had both been to Miami recently, so had a good (OK – it was superficial) conversation – and enjoyable (what 50 year old can claim an interesting conversation with a 20-something model! ). We sat in one couches by the bar – and eventually to a room. The clinching factor was the offer of a slow session with body massage – and was clear everything was on the table. Tried to upsell – but just told her to start with 30 minutes – and we’ll see what develops. Overall, I think if I had been more ‘directing’, this could have been a good session. But it was only OK. The body massage was less than a minute – and she covered herself with oil – which made kissing, etc., not an option. An meant that she took out a very cold wipe to clean me off before the BBBJ – almost brought everything to a stop. It was an incredible view in CG, but her breasts were very hard. Went to mish – finished in doggie – what an incredible view- both from behind & in the mirror. Finished in about 45 minutes – she was ready to go, but I wanted another 10 minutes or so – and she was agreeable. Overall, not spectacular and would not repeat, but OK.

Spent the next hour watching from the staircase on the main floor. Interesting to watch the dynamic – and it eliminated a couple of girls from consideration as they came down the stairs with obviously not enthusiastic customers. Spotted a petite, very slim, brown haired girl, not the most attractive, but a great smile. She was about 163 cm, probably 45 kg, B, natural cup – name was Sadi? From Poland. English was OK – we struggled a little, but she was a trooper – and we did laugh over some of the mis-interpretations. Spent about 15 minutes talking in the bar (while she smoked)– and then on to the room. Ended up in the same room as before – after a 10 minute wait. This was a relaxed, fun session. Asked about options, again – said we will see how things develop & she we OK with that. She does an excellent BBBJ, paying attention to all parts, and is an OK kisser – not fully DFK, but responsive. I took over, starting to kiss down her body. Never made it all the way down – and started in mish. Only drawback is she held onto the condom for the entire session – not so bad as she was tight, but it was a little distracting. Ended up in doggie – again great view in the mirror – and directly. We ended up within the 30 minute time frame. Overall, good fun, and would repeat because of chemistry.

Showered, then went back out – and saw one other girl that I would be interested in – reddish brown hair, slender, tight body, blue eyes, about 165 cm. But she was playing the electronic maj-jong (? ) machine for the next 30 minutes – and she was pretty serious – so decided to leave.

I would rate Artemis as one of the better clubs – but I have had better days at both Oase & Palace – but again – it was one night- an only 5 hours – and a Saturday. So I’m sure if I went back it would be better.

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After hesitating about the price I decided to take a chance and try out the Artemis. I had a good time. My reference the Globe in Zurich.
I descriptions of the place in other reports are accurate although the smoke in the upper lounge did not bother me too much.
I arrived Sunday around 13:00 and left around 19:30. I was able to include two meals in the visit which made the 80 Euro entrance a bit more reasonable.
The place ws not crouded, the girls said that all the trafic was closed because of the Berlin Maraton. There were about 10-20 at first and the numbers encreased to 20-30 when I left the w/m ration was all the time about one to one. The general quality was low 6-7 but you could find alot of 8-9 and even 1-2 10. In general the girl quality in the Globe is better.
Had two sessions. This time I decided not to listen to my dick but to my brain.
I chose carefully. I avoided the stunners and the pushy ones and all and all enjoyed both sessions.
The first was with a Let girl called Carolina. I met her on the sofa downstairs she was nice warm and tempting. She has green eyes prity face (in my opinion I dont like the barby face more the cary ann moss type) good figure although she was not thin. She cooperated with kissing (no thong) gave a nice bare blowjob and after three positions I finished. Good starter noting to write praise songs about.
Had some wellness action, sauna, weight workout, sleeping near the pool. Maybe it was a slow night but the girls came downstairs alot and I had to fend off shark attacks during relaxation. I don't like the pushiness. I always gave in for one but during the conversation she told me she is not kissing so I thanked her and sent her back to the sea.
The second session was with Samira. She is turkish small thin figure. Brown skin, prity face (her face skin is a bit rough but it thus not harm the general impression) dark eyes, thin figure. She was kissing passionatly gave an exelent blowjob and cooperative fucking in all positions. I finished with a handjob from the legends with her finger in my ass. Enjoyed the session very much.
All in all 80+60+60 Euro well spent.

[QUOTE=Joe Bond]
The place ws not crouded, the girls said that all the trafic was closed because of the Berlin Maraton.[/QUOTE]
Strange, because the Marathon are in september. [url]http://www.scc-events.com/events/berlin_marathon/2009/[/url]

Looking forward to visiting Artemis tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon, about 2:30 pm. Will anyone from the ISG board be there? I haven't been able to touch base with anyone when I've visited Palace and Oase in Frankfurt, but maybe in Artemis?

I'll be the slim Asian (Chinese) guy about 50, walking around and scoping out the girls. Say hello!

Regards, R.

Here are a few short reports from over the past few weeks.

Sol, from Argentina apparently, mid to late 20’s dark hair and complexion, large-ish enhanced breasts and a solid frame. Speaks good English, actually better than her German I think. We met on the sofas in the bar and at first I was not overly impressed or enthusiastic. But she has something. Sort of a “dirty girl” appeal and I thought she might be a good fuck.

Off to the rooms we went and soon we were on the bed and out came the handy wipes.

Yikes!

The first thing I noticed is that she had very little sensitivity to the fact that the male organ (Little Angus) can be, at least at first, a bit in need of some careful handling. I understand the need to give Little A a wipe but this girl was pulling and wiping like she wanted to yank him off. On to the bj and things did not get much better. Sol can not be faulted for a lack of enthusiasm but she seriously needs to learn some sensitivity skills.

I asked her to slow down a bit and soon had her lying on her back with her legs spead and gave her a good licking to which she was reasonably receptive. But as it was a half hour session we soon put on the condom and assumed doggy position. This is where she seemed to excel. She is, as mentioned, a solid framed girl and she could take a rather vigorous fuck for a good length of time. In the end I was satisfied with this but was a bit disappointed that the preliminaries (foreplay) was sub par.

I like this girl and she was a fun and interesting conversationalist but it is doubtful that I would book her for a repeat session.

Juliana claims to be from Costa Rica and she certainly has a bit of a Latina Look(reasonably tall, streaked hair, nice eyes, solid wide hips and simply magnificent pair of large stand-up breasts-more on these later) but she seems to have spent a good deal of her life in Europe. Again she has good English and is a reasonably skilled conversationalist who seems in no hurry to get to the room. In fact after 15-20 minutes of talk, though interested, I begged off her request to go to a room claiming that I was still to close to my earlier session and needed some time to recuperate. She took it well and we agreed to maybe hook up later.

Later arrived and I called her over. She seemed a bit surprised but then I guess the girls hear the later excuse a lot. Soon we were in a room and she started me off with a massage after briefly trying to up sell me to an hour session.

The handy wipes came out and the session went a bit south:-((

Now I understand that the girls need to be a bit concerned with hygiene. But Juliana seemed to be a wee bit overly worried that Little A was some how oozing disease. She used several wipes and got down close, inspecting him for, I imagine, all manner of drips and bugs. Finally satisfied she proceeded to give a hand job and finally, reluctantly I felt, gave him a bit of a perfunctory suck. It felt like she was doing me a favor and wanted to get this part of the session over with asap. Fine with me seeing as it was such a lousy bj, and soon Little A was finding himself nestled between her breasts.

A word on her breasts. She claims that they are natural. The are big (C’s?) and stand up without a hint of sag. And there are no visible scars. The only place I did not really check was under the arms for insertion scars. I felt it would be rude. But...I have my doubts as to their lack of enhancement. Just too perfect IMO. And I could swear I felt the implant at least in one of the breasts. But if they are implants, and I am really not sure, they are the best job I have ever had the privilege to fondle.

So I could have quite happily just titty fucked her. But to finish there she wanted extra.

Fuck that. For what is ultimately a glorified hand job?

So after a lick of her pussy I had her assume the position and fucked her vigorously for some time from behind. As this was a later session for me it took a while and I have to give the girl credit for maintaining a litany of reasonably convincing moans and encouragement and a smattering of dirty talk to bring home the desired conclusion.

In the end I mentioned to her that she seemed not to enjoy the bj part of the session and she got quite defensive and gave me a lecture on how unhygienic is the male organ. I was tempted to suggest another profession, or at least a switch to a venue where she could deliver cbj, but did not want to escalate her Latin temper at this point so I just agreed with her that penis’ are generally filthy and dripping nasties and need to be steam cleaned regularly.

So in the end I was fairly disappointed in this session and again I would have to say that I would not repeat with Juliana.

Nicolette (early 20’s) comes from Bulgaria. I met her late one evening and what struck me was her smile. She has a great big and genuine smile and is very much fun to talk to. No pressure from her as we lay and chatted fro quite some time. Her English is quite good.

Now this girl is not the most glamourous girl working the room but she has a nice look to her and she takes care of herself. She is (again) a solid girl with a big ass and small-ish breasts. But not too small. I actually find them to be a perfect size.

In the room I have to say that the fist thing I noticed was the quality of the bj. Ncolette is a very enthusiastic fellatrix. But she is not a technician, she is an enthusiast. By this I mean that some girls seem to have a bag of trick and they are all about technique, eg. Conchita, Christine-see previous reports.

Nicolette has a degree of sensitivity but mostly she just seems to let loose and gobble the knob. Simply lovely.

So I have repeated with Nicolette several times and each time it has been very, very enjoyable and the sex has been hot. She a girl who wants you to have a good time and will work to make that happen.And she remembers what you like and will deliver it the next time. She gets a very high approval rating from me, attested to by the fact that I have repeated with her every time I have been to Artemis in the past month or so.

I especially enjoy a cim finish with her;-))

Well that is all for now. This will be my last report for several months (sometime next fall) as the summer months are upon us and I want to take some time to regroup, save a bit of cash and give the Artemis scene a bit of a rest. Going to the same FKK often can be fun but I notice that the last few times I have been it has been a bit boring. I feel the need to give it a bit of a rest and allow some fresh talent to appear. But I will be a round and am always available for questions and comments.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Well that is all for now. This will be my last report for several months (sometime next fall) as the summer months are upon us and I want to take some time to regroup, save a bit of cash and give the Artemis scene a bit of a rest. Going to the same FKK often can be fun but I notice that the last few times I have been it has been a bit boring. I feel the need to give it a bit of a rest and allow some fresh talent to appear. But I will be a round and am always available for questions and comments.[/QUOTE]


As always another top-notch report!

About the last paragraph quoted above:

Maybe this is the time to get on a train to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt and give a try to say GT or Oase? Imagine the excitement and adventure when you bring your A game, honed by many nights in Artemis, to a new club? It's like a star poker player bringing his game to a new casino where the other players don't know him. And you will finally see an FKK with an outdoor area! Just a thought you know...

O

[QUOTE=Joe Bond]I am arriving to Berlin at the end of June too (maybe the same conference as Sko.

I would like to know what is the quality of the studios/massage parlors/private girls i.e. brothels in Berlin vs an FKK like Artemis?

In such a place you get a session for 60-80 EU for example:

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]

Is Artemis worth the 80 Eu entrance fee?[/QUOTE]Like Angus said, you pay for the facilities and the possibility to chat the girls up.

I used to frequent KD when in Berlin, but during my last couple of visits I have started to focus on Artemis. I took me a while to learn the ropes, to sort out the good ones (it is a learning experience every time) and to appreciate being chased. The sessions keep on getting better and better - and costlier.

If you have the time (5-10 hours) and money (250€ and up), treat yourself to a luxurious night. If you are on a budget, you can get a quality session at the aforementioned establishments.

Some people enjoy playing soccer and others golf...

[QUOTE=R The Man]Looking forward to visiting Artemis tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon, about 2:30 pm. Will anyone from the ISG board be there? I haven't been able to touch base with anyone when I've visited Palace and Oase in Frankfurt, but maybe in Artemis?

I'll be the slim Asian (Chinese) guy about 50, walking around and scoping out the girls. Say hello!

Regards, R.[/QUOTE]Just curious R Man as I will be in Berlin shortly for the first time. In addition to being an anglophone, is there any slight at all felt for being an Asian (Chinese) hobbyist in these parts?

[QUOTE=Nick Depalma]Just curious R Man as I will be in Berlin shortly for the first time. In addition to being an anglophone, is there any slight at all felt for being an Asian (Chinese) hobbyist in these parts?[/QUOTE]I am assuming you are asking whether you would be welcome in Artemis. Answer is yes, if you are clean, solvent and behave as impeccably as all Asian gents do in my experience in these clubs.

[QUOTE=Ortos]As always another top-notch report!

About the last paragraph quoted above:

Maybe this is the time to get on a train to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt and give a try to say GT or Oase? Imagine the excitement and adventure when you bring your A game, honed by many nights in Artemis, to a new club? It's like a star poker player bringing his game to a new casino where the other players don't know him. And you will finally see an FKK with an outdoor area! Just a thought you know...

O[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

And a very good thought it is too. One that is on my mind. I do have to wait and see how the summer plays out as my income takes a bit of a dip in July/August. In any case I do have it on my agenda to make a small FKK tour with esteemed ISG member Iseeu this coming fall. Perhaps in October. But as you say, it would be nice to experience an FKK with an outdoor area so I will also look at the possibility of a shorter trip in August sometime.

Regards and I will keep you posted.

AM