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Tulip and Mango
The line up at Tulip around 12. 30 pm was awful. There were only 6 girls available all on the chubby side and most of them in their 30s (or even worse?). So I left quickly and moved onwards to Mango. It was my first visit there.
The line up there was much better, no hotties, but a few girls were kind of charming. I picked the one that smiled at me the most and off we went. I cannot recall her name properly but I think it sounded somehow slightly sexually explicit something like Boom or Bong. When I look at the pictures on the Mango website there is a strong resemblance to Fong, so maybe it was Fong not Bong LOL! A girl from Chiangmai in her late 20s. Her English was ok, her body not perfect but far from being unattractive, very exotic eyes and dark skin just the way I like it. She took a lot of emphasis on the showering and although I know it's kind of somehow avoiding the customer of having too much sex with her I didn't rush her onto the bed. Finally she engaged in lots of DFK, BBBJ, licking balls extensive anal rimming. She let me come in her mouth and after some massage routine I fucked her in various positions. Felt to add some extra tip for the second shot but don't really know what the rules concerning one or two shots are. Price was like 800 for the mamasan 1600 for the girl plus some tip for a two hours session.
My experiences with massage parlours in Bangkok left me with mixed feelings. Not in a buyer's remorse way since I didn't have a big disappointment at one of the massage parlours but neither had a breathtaking experience there. I've been to Nataree, Mango and Annie's only. While Nataree had definitely the best looking and youngest girls out of this the performances at the other parlours were better. While I felt like a king in some of Macau's MPs (which is of course an expensive pleasure) in Bangkok soapies or oilies it was just ok for me. It seems that Soi Cowboy works much better for me. Seeing the girls without a rush for choosing then have a little chit chat during the lady drink checking how they move, smile, laugh and sometimes kiss is perfect for me before taking them to my hotel and spend the whole night with them. I was spoiled there on my very frst visit a few years ago and since someone mentioned the reluctance to DFK in Thai culture I can honestly say that I never had a bad kisser out of the Soi Cowboy girls. I know it's odd to always look for the GFE but well it is so easy to get this in Soi Cowboy.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1363618]I look at all the girls names on my phones, and think "who the f. Is that name?" or when have met a dozen Annes, Nits and Nois, how to remember which one. These days I have to put date and place of meeting the girl next to her name and a perhaps a rating. Otherwise might fail to remember who she is.[/QUOTE]It is not always possible, but I try to take photos of all my girls and save them to the hard drive in a consistent, informative file name format like Town-Bar-Name. Jpg. Then when I go back to the files or I want to remember a specific girl, all the pictures are assembled in an easily understood order. It is good to look back, reminisce, and see the girls again.
And pictures are a great quality control mechanism. Six months after a trip or right before I start on a new one, I like to look back and review the the quality of my girls based on just their looks. Memories get fuzzy and can play tricks on you. The pictures are very revealing and do not lie. Most of the time they confirm a good memory I already have, but sometimes the pictures can be very damning in a negative, but enlightening way. For example, although all my Manila Bay Club memories are positive, the pictures of my MBC girls force me to admit the hard truth that there is not one looker in the bunch. They were all nice girls and showed me some great times, but OMG; the pictures are a little shocking. I smile and ask myself, what was I thinking? LOL. But, I remember what I was thinking at the time. Those MBC girls were very seductive in a friendly sexy manner especially after drinking and spending an hour in the joint.
Other pictures stir up the opposite feelings. When I see a beautiful girl or even a nice looking girl smiling at me and I remember the great times I had with her, I can't help thinking how good it is to be alive to enjoy this bountiful feast and I can't wait to get back to South East Asia and get more. The Canon PowerShot SX260 HS or SX230 HS is a great little compact camera to take along on a trip.
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[QUOTE=Nullnull;1363640]While I felt like a king in some of Macau's MPs (which is of course an expensive pleasure) in Bangkok soapies or oilies it was just ok for me.[/QUOTE]Indeed Macau saunas are far more expensive than BKK oilies or soapies. But with an overall view, you get more for the bucks in Macau.
A good bill in Macau can end up around 2500 MOP, ie apprx 10000b.
In BKK 10k baht can get you 4 sessions, ie 4 girls, but in a much different environment (beauty of girls is an old time debate). Or can get you an expensive girl in atop gentleman club.
In Macau you get one fill hour in a very nice room+massage water bed as in Rio, free food and drinks, many hours in a relaxing atmosphere, a couple of side sessions (thigh massage, etc) , a wide choice of stunners.
Each one his own, of course, some prefer the 90' session in an oily / soapie in BKK.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1363618]Really? Are you getting a lot of secret useful tips not shared with the forum? I have been enjoying avoiding many senior members.[/QUOTE]That must be why it isn't possible to send you a PM. .
Haven't met up with Canyon in a few years, sadly, but spent some time with the Rabbit, BKKRookie and FoxTwo recently. The frog and burgmeister are alway interesting conversationalists. Nothing super secret, just enjoyable banter about the world.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1363689]In Macau you get one fill hour in a very nice room+massage water bed as in Rio, free food and drinks, many hours in a relaxing atmosphere, a couple of side sessions (thigh massage, etc) , a wide choice of stunners.[/QUOTE]Can you make that a little clearer. I mean screw the wellness and relaxation. That doesn't interest me. I don't like real massage. How much unrestricted play time with the girl?
I have to compare that with how long I would get with say my favourite Bangkok model for 10K (a very long time).
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[QUOTE=Pita123;1363706]That must be why it isn't possible to send you a PM.[/QUOTE]Yes I don't really believe in PMs so disabled it. Get too many silly questions that should be asked of the forum in general or not at all. Also too many guys I am not sure if I want to meet. I know you already from ChokChai steakhouse, so you are on my good list. I just remember Foxtwo now too. Ah, Centaurus too. Some of the old handles start to return to my memory. Never actually met Raptors but meant to. Sorry to bore the rest of the forum, but I don't want to switch PMs on and monitor it.
I only just set up a Facebook name (one of my Thai names) to keep in touch with an MP girl. I have been resisting for so long. I am not very sociable really. I don't want all my friends to know all the other friends. That would be a disaster LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1363718]Yes I don't really believe in PMs so disabled it. Get too many silly questions that should be asked of the forum in general or not at all. Also too many guys I am not sure if I want to meet. I know you already from ChokChai steakhouse, so you are on my good list.[/QUOTE]I was confusing Canyon and Centaurus. Both great guys!
I recall Chockchai. Good to be on the list, but no way to contact you. .
Anyway, I should have some interesting stuff to post in the next two weeks. Have some interesting insights from outside of Thailand I need to post too.
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Massage with a twist
i never made it to tulip mainly because my needs were well looked after at mango, especially by fon. being with her is a bit like when i was messing around with the neighbours daughter when i was a teenager except that she really does give a very good bj and fs. not the most perfect body but there are places where you can spend twice as much for a white skinned beautiful ice-queen starfish. but she makes up for that with a real gfe. mango provides close to what tulip does except the girls at tulip are guaranteed to do anal, which is not on my want list anyway. and it is close to where i stay anyway.
i paid a visit to aviva as i only had one hour available and i am not keen on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. aviva only allows one shot, if memory serves me right but that is all i wanted anyway. the girl looked good but she wanted the money up front, saying that mamasan said that all newbys to the aviva should pay up front. i said that i am a customer since years and the discussion stopped. the experience was good as she had a nice body with larger than usual tits.
aviva now have a flip card downstairs which they show the customers to ensure that they know the minimum tip. it seems that they may have problems with customers getting the service but not wanting to pay.
somewhere in the forum i read about a line of massage places in a walkway between soi 11 and 13 sukhumvit where fs is available. whoever it was who provided the tip, many thanks. i took a look. it was a very mixed bag which includes some ladyboys too. but i picked on one where they had a 25 year old girl with a pretty face. they had a toilet with a shower that could barely fit one person and massage took place in stalls with just curtains at the front of each stall. i had a shower. this was a good move because the guy next door did not and all he got was a hj, as my girl told me afterwards because he was smelly.
the girl was chatty and flirty but a little shy. very white skinned. great rapport. she agreed to bj and fs and was lovely and tight. no kids and possibly because she does not shag a lot. it was difficult to keep the noise down. i don't think that shagging is banned there but they don't want all the customers to know. it is possible that the girls don't want the owners to know too much as they probably would have to share their tips with the owner.
she was so good that the next days i twice paid a barfine for her of 1000baht to go long time at my hotel. it suited me very well because i could go bar hopping alone or with friends until 11. 30pm and then go pick her up and shag her senseless in the comfort of my own bed. she was a lot less inhibited there too. there was no rush in the morning as i got a very nice gfe then.
she asked me not to put her photo or name up on the forum because she likes things the way they are. at the massage place, she does not shag more than once a day, sometimes none at all, and most of the time she gives hj or bj as that is what most of the customers want. it makes sense as not every customer will want fs in a stall where everything can be heard in the other stalls. also, more than one fs a day and she gets sore. she definitely did not want me to put my finger inside her pussy and bbbj was completely out of the question in the massage place. so she stays very clean. she seemed to like my company and bringing her back to my hotel was also a good move as the room had a large full bath where we both had a good time. makes a change from always being on a bed. i will keep her number but i am guessing that a girl like her will find a foreign husband before long.
my experience was exceptional. i don't think that everyone is going to find that experience every time at one of these small massage places at that location. but it is probably worth the trip, if you have an hour to spare and are in the area and prepared to accept that there may not be a diamond in the rough at just that moment.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1363709]Can you make that a little clearer. I mean screw the wellness and relaxation. That doesn't interest me. I don't like real massage. How much unrestricted play time with the girl?[/QUOTE]If the Macau standard of the rooms, the shower assistant, the shows (that aways include some kind of foreplay) , the relaxation in between, the pretty good food, the massage don't matter to you at all then you get more bang for the bucks in BKK. If I remember correcty then you only get 60 minutes of unrestricted play time in Macau for the price of around 4k THB. What I liked especially about Macau saunas were the Indo (or sometimes Viet) girls that take care of you in between the fucking sessions. They speak pretty good english, give excellent massage and are flirtatious to the max. And the line up of the girls in Macau has always many stunners and some of the nasty stuff like rimming or the famous fire and ice is always included in Macau so it doesn't depend on "chemistry" or the girl. But I see there are also many reasons why to prefer BKK over Macau.
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[QUOTE=Simian; 1363726]She was so good that the next days I twice paid a barfine for her of 1000baht to go long time at my hotel. It suited me very well because I could go bar hopping alone or with friends until 11. 30pm and then go pick her up and shag her senseless in the comfort of my own bed. She was a lot less inhibited there too. There was no rush in the morning as I got a very nice GFE then.
She asked me not to put her photo or name up on the forum because she likes things the way they are. At the massage place, she does not shag more than once a day, sometimes none at all, and most of the time she gives HJ or BJ as that is what most of the customers want. It makes sense as not every customer will want FS in a stall where everything can be heard in the other stalls. Also, more than one FS a day and she gets sore. She definitely did not want me to put my finger inside her pussy and BBBJ was completely out of the question in the massage place. So she stays very clean. She seemed to like my company and bringing her back to my hotel was also a good move as the room had a large full bath where we both had a good time. Makes a change from always being on a bed. I will keep her number but I am guessing that a girl like her will find a foreign husband before long.
My experience was exceptional. I don't think that everyone is going to find that experience every time at one of these small massage places at that location. But it is probably worth the trip, if you have an hour to spare and are in the area and prepared to accept that there may not be a diamond in the rough at just that moment.[/QUOTE]You made a good move taking her. I do that all the time in that area usually when I stay at President Palace on Soi 11.
You had a good time and you can think what you want, but I would not believe her sex history at that shop. Those places are very popular and know as FS spots. Many of the girls there FS and Bareback other guys. Most of those shops are 24/7 so they have a high customer base.
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1363849]You made a good move taking her. I do that all the time in that area usually when I stay at President Palace on Soi 11.
You had a good time and you can think what you want, but I would not believe her sex history at that shop. Those places are very popular and know as FS spots. Many of the girls there FS and Bareback other guys. Most of those shops are 24/7 so they have a high customer base.[/QUOTE]If there is one thing I have learned in Thailand and it applies to some other Asian locations, it is that people lie all the time about their sexual history. Hey, people do that in Western countries too. I personally would never bareback any girl who works a bar or a massage place. In fact, I would not bareback any girl from any country until I got to know her really well. In my own history, I got STDs from girls who were non-pros more often than I got from pros. A good professional will know how to protect herself against STDs.
The nice part about this girl is that she did not say that she did not have sex with the customers. She readily agreed that she did. And there was no way she would even give me a taste without rubbering up. I did not get into whether there was a Thai boyfriend. Often there is and through her you are exposed to his sexual hygiene practices with other girls / boys etc as much as her behaviour with customers in the massage place.
What I liked about her was that I enjoyed her company, she smelled sweet down below, she did not give the usual bullshit about sick buffalos or dying grandfathers and she was great in the sack and she appeared to enjoy herself. In my book, that is as good as it gets. I have since been back to Bangkok but I chose not to call her because I had a different agenda. But I will call her again when I have the time to enjoy her, assuming that some foreign guy has not married her by then.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1363618]Really? Are you getting a lot of secret useful tips not shared with the forum? I have been enjoying avoiding many senior members.[/QUOTE]I agree. There are only a handful of ISG members I would meet now as usually members bore the hell out of me. Always the same discussions about what is the best MP and girls and all.
Pita123 and Giotto are the only guys I see often and these guys can have a good conversation outside of P4P (which can't be said for all members here).
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[QUOTE=Nullnull;1363815]If the Macau standard of the rooms, the shower assistant, the shows (that aways include some kind of foreplay) , the relaxation in between, the pretty good food, the massage don't matter to you at all then you get more bang for the bucks in BKK. If I remember correcty then you only get 60 minutes of unrestricted play time in Macau for the price of around 4k THB. What I liked especially about Macau saunas were the Indo (or sometimes Viet) girls that take care of you in between the fucking sessions. They speak pretty good english, give excellent massage and are flirtatious to the max. And the line up of the girls in Macau has always many stunners and some of the nasty stuff like rimming or the famous fire and ice is always included in Macau so it doesn't depend on "chemistry" or the girl. But I see there are also many reasons why to prefer BKK over Macau.[/QUOTE]Again, most of the guys in Macau are Asian and want service. They are not looking for a GFE. I have said it many times; Guys don't come to LOS to f&k w&king, they come to LOS to date w&king girls. Myself, I want service. Don't want to ask about rimming, don't want to worry about what is on the menu, and certainly don't want to hear "no, no, no." I will never forget asking one gogo gal to talk dirty during sex. She replied, "I am not a dirty girl." Amazing to me that a gal who has probably had an olympic pool's length of p#cker or more up her thinks that talking about it makes her "dirty." No, it makes you fun!
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[QUOTE=Simian;1363891]The nice part about this girl is that she did not say that she did not have sex with the customers. She readily agreed that she did. And there was no way she would even give me a taste without rubbering up. I did not get into whether there was a Thai boyfriend. Often there is and through her you are exposed to his sexual hygiene practices with other girls / boys etc as much as her behaviour with customers in the massage place.[/QUOTE]Very well said and Everyone visiting Thailand should remember that.
I also swore never to Bareback a Massage or Bar girl but did on a couple occasions. Funnily enough the only STDs I caught were minor stuff from BBBJs.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1363905]Again, most of the guys in Macau are Asian and want service. They are not looking for a GFE. I have said it many times; Guys don't come to LOS to f&k w&king, they come to LOS to date w&king girls. Myself, I want service. Don't want to ask about rimming, don't want to worry about what is on the menu, and certainly don't want to hear "no, no, no." I will never forget asking one gogo gal to talk dirty during sex. She replied, "I am not a dirty girl." Amazing to me that a gal who has probably had an olympic pool's length of p#cker or more up her thinks that talking about it makes her "dirty." No, it makes you fun![/QUOTE]I imagine that she sees talking dirty as being rude and she doesn't see herself as a rude person.
As for Macau, the fact that you state is exactly what played to my hand in Macau. The girls I was with were pleasantly surprised by a customer who was nice to them rather than businesslike. And that leads to better service IMO.
But in BKK I find myself moving away from the "dating working girls" camp. I don't want to BF a girl early in the evening as I don't want to do anything with her but go back to the room. Earlier in the evening I'd rather go to a movie, hang with friends, listen to music in a non P4P place.