[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]... till I retire in my seventies with a young Haitiana sipping tea (the prelude to heaven).[/QUOTE]
Was that aimed at me? Pretty accurate description if it was!
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]... till I retire in my seventies with a young Haitiana sipping tea (the prelude to heaven).[/QUOTE]
Was that aimed at me? Pretty accurate description if it was!
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Was that aimed at me? Pretty accurate description if it was![/QUOTE]99% of the guys on this board hope to get where you are now, yes I was hoping you would GET IT.
IMHO this crackdown has more to do with cleaning up the image of Sosua and really this entire island nation for tourist/investment purposes. This has been floated around by many of you in the forum already. This part is nothing new to this conversation. A couple things surrounding this entire situation, however, lead me to present the following "conspiracy theory" on the whole situation.
1) The street scene in SDQ gets totally cleaned up and everything is now totally indoors.
2) La Passions invests a ton of money on improvements out of the blue.
3) CMP crops up out of nowhere.
4) I am hearing intel that there are a couple other bars in the same general area/side of town as Passions and CMP having on site chicas with salida for take out.
My "theory" is that this crackdown has been in the works for a while. Although things can move quickly here in the DR, Peters investment timing and the opening of CMP when there were no outside signs of a crackdown are suspicious. I think some type of heads up on this made its way to somebody about the crackdown. Entrepreneurs saw the situation and looked to capitalize on it. Follow the money.
Moving things in doors and outside the site of tourists and investors makes utmost sense to me. Those that think that the loss of money to the local Sosua economy spent by punters would negate any increase of normal tourist dollars and especially investment cash, need to rethink their position. Just take a look at the people sitting in the airplane on their way down to the DR, and count in your mind how many are there as tourists vs. those for our hobby. Tourism is a huge source of income here in the DR. To me the Hatian clean up is a side benefit to the those involved.
I have always had trouble understanding changes that happen in a vacuum. I look for cause and effect, hence one man's conspiracy theory.
My 2 cents,
P
I think these two posters see the situation as it really is.
Ponderosa Post #7044
Marc Anthony Post #7035
[QUOTE=Ponderosa]....Those that think that the loss of money to the local Sosua economy spent by punters would negate any increase of normal tourist dollars and especially investment cash, need to rethink their position.........[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Marc Anthony].....The entire chica biz is just a tiny fraction of the money in RE and regular tourism.......[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]
BTW talked to my ace cabbie and he said look for more changes. One drink minimum at Latinos andMerengue, along with possible cover charges in the future. No more free parades of girls strolling through.[/QUOTE]
Like I'm gonna pay a cover and buy drinks with no chicas!
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Nothing good lasts forever, we just ride the wave till the next lull.......[/QUOTE]Has a date been set for the Sosua Memorial Service?
December 3 will be the new beginning of the New Sosua?
I remember when I first starting coming to Sosua, five years ago, and reading about how the government came in one weekend and wiped out Long Beach in Puerto Plata. If I remember correctly the government gave the puta and beach bar owners a few days notice. One weekend they came in with bulldozers and flattened the place out. So I don't doubt that the puta business as we know it will be shut down on Pedro Clisante.
Some have questioned why do it now. Why not wait until after the holiday season. I think Helpmann answered that in one of his posts by stating the official tourist season begins December 15. (Post #7029)
[QUOTE=Helpmann]......The crackdown on prostitution in Sosua has everything to do with the Department of Tourism. The tourist season officially begins in three-weeks (December 15). Preserving the "normal" tourism industry in Sosua, through the reduction in prostitution and criminality during the tourist season (December 15 - April 15) is what the crackdown is about.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slimtower]I was approved off for 5 vacation days. I've been reading all the reports on the crackdown in Sosua. Im literally ready to purchase my ticket today! I'm looking to go next week. Is there anybody who can give me a straight up honest opinion to if I should go. Better yet, someone who is actually down there now would be better information. Boca chic popped into my head but I was alittle disappointed my last time I was there.[/QUOTE]I'm headed down on Saturday. Staying at D'Piero. Does not sound great but there is always La Passions.
[QUOTE=Sidney]Like I'm gonna pay a cover and buy drinks with no chicas![/QUOTE]
This might be more directed at the chicas that hang out five at a table with no drinks, or the chicas that walk through repeatedly but never spend money. My Dominican cab driver told me this, I'll believe when I see it.
Although I have never been to Sousa, it has been on my radar since this past summer. Since then, I have been doing a lot of research to prepare for my virgin trip next summer. With my luck, all this work will be for nothing, but, I've got a feeling, Sousa will still be up and kicking, but in a different style.
Although I have never been in the DR, I have mongered in other countries. I remember a few years ago, when the Tijuana govt. wanted to get the streetwalkers off the streets, and into the bars/hotels. They had just redone the streets/sidewalks, and had designed a plan to clean up the streets and get the eyesores inside. It never worked, but the streets are much nicer, now.
In the case of Sousa, it appears to me, as a outsider, that they want to move the action inside, so it is not as obvious/in your face. They would like to improve their town as a vacation destination for the general population, and still allow the ladies to do their thing a little more low key.
This may decrease the number of girls who are available for us to visit with. It may cause prices to rise, due to the middlemen that will now be the clubs/hotels. This may dampen the atmosphere as a "mardi gras" free for all. Bottom line, you should still be able to visit and do your thing, just not as wild and crazy as in the past.
Time will tell. The girls, bars, and hotels will have to adjust to the new rules and guidelines and figure out how things will work with the new regulations.
Hopefully it is all figured out by the time I am ready to book for next summer.
Will Classico's be open in the evening time(after 9pm) after the new laws take effect in December? Can ladies still come and enjoy a night of dancing and drinking.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]Although I have never been to Sousa, it has been on my radar since this past summer. Since then, I have been doing a lot of research to prepare for my virgin trip next summer. With my luck, all this work will be for nothing, but, I've got a feeling, Sousa will still be up and kicking, but in a different style.
Although I have never been in the DR, I have mongered in other countries. I remember a few years ago, when the Tijuana govt. wanted to get the streetwalkers off the streets, and into the bars/hotels. They had just redone the streets/sidewalks, and had designed a plan to clean up the streets and get the eyesores inside. It never worked, but the streets are much nicer, now.
In the case of Sousa, it appears to me, as a outsider, that they want to move the action inside, so it is not as obvious/in your face. They would like to improve their town as a vacation destination for the general population, and still allow the ladies to do their thing a little more low key.
This may decrease the number of girls who are available for us to visit with. It may cause prices to rise, due to the middlemen that will now be the clubs/hotels. This may dampen the atmosphere as a "mardi gras" free for all. Bottom line, you should still be able to visit and do your thing, just not as wild and crazy as in the past.
Time will tell. The girls, bars, and hotels will have to adjust to the new rules and guidelines and figure out how things will work with the new regulations.
Hopefully it is all figured out by the time I am ready to book for next summer.[/QUOTE]I called Jihad (owner of Sea Breeze) and he said they are basically trying to clean up the streets so certain things are not so obvious. They don't want chicas wearing provocative clothes, and trying to steer everything to after dark. Also, he claims the only females they arrest don't have id's. Which I do not believe. He talked like nothing was wrong, but everything seems wrong from what I am reading.
... plenty of rental pussy in Sosua, even with the new rules. Last time I was there was in August, and I must say that even I found it a bit gross that you couldn't walk down Pedro Clissante on the sidewalk at night without being groped and harassed. I actually had to punch one chica (very hard) on the arm to get her to lay off when repeated verbal requests were ineffective. She may have been trying to pick my pocket too. My hand was still sore the next day.
How can any legitimate tourist and his wife or family walk around a place like that without finding it offensive?
[QUOTE=Frannie] I actually had to punch one chica (very hard) on the arm to get her to lay off when repeated verbal requests were ineffective. She may have been trying to pick my pocket too. My hand was still sore the next day.
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Anybody who goes to Sosua whether tourist or especially Dominican goes to Sosua for 2 things, beach and pussy, no ifs ands or butts about it. The other minorities are "locked up" in their own little worlds at the resorts.
p.s. can you pack a tazer in your luggage for next time.. That will teach em...
[QUOTE=Frannie]... plenty of rental pussy in Sosua, even with the new rules. Last time I was there was in August, and I must say that even I found it a bit gross that you couldn't walk down Pedro Clissante on the sidewalk at night without being groped and harassed. I actually had to punch one chica (very hard) on the arm to get her to lay off when repeated verbal requests were ineffective. She may have been trying to pick my pocket too. My hand was still sore the next day.
How can any legitimate tourist and his wife or family walk around a place like that without finding it offensive?[/QUOTE]
I've tried a few times over the years to go to the big discos and always ended up fighting off aggressive putas the whole time and hardly being able to just look around much less choose or approach some chica I liked. That was true of High Caribe at the other end of the street too (remember that place ...nobody seems to think Sosua is dead without it).
At High Caribe i remember one small fairly innocent looking chica who just followed me around and kept trying to hold my hand. I'd tell her no, go away- in increasingly harsh ways and she just ignored whatever I said and kept it up, meanwhile looking small and innocent.
I ended up talking to her and buying her drink ('If I buy you a drink will you leave me alone? Vigorous head nodding). Eventually we both got on motos I'd paid for (explaining to the guys in advance I wanted to lose her) and I managed to escape.
The idea of girls chasing you, like a lot of things, seems amusing until you actually have to deal with it.
To respond to my own story, I'm aware that if you just do the scene a few days in row the hard core chicas will stop treating you like fresh meat - pretty much like the beach vendors and street hustlers - they know the new guys from the regulars. I was never into it enough to bother though because I was always finding chicas during the day in shops and other places I liked better.