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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population..[/QUOTE]Yup, some good fun on this thread is when the usual suspects post a link to an article, then you when you get past the title or the opening paragraph to see that the article is of the opposite view of what the poster said.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2593097]When this is just a failure to have to pay for women, and better to know it, with so many who are so frustrated about women.[/QUOTE]In the USA there is a shortage of women and most women are old and past menopause. The majority of immigrants are men from Mexico jumping across the river to the USA unlike Germany where most travelers are women from Eastern Europe.
The sex ratio is very bad in the USA and the legal system makes it risky to have sex at all unless one wants Black women who will have bareback sex with anyone but then sue for child support. The white women are prone to file sex crimes claims or fake assault charges etc. Which is part of the corrupt legal system in the USA plus there are many more men than there are women and the single women are usually over 45 years old.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592862]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.[/QUOTE]And you know everything?
[QUOTE=Gino02;2592837]Yup I personally know 2 girls whose close relatives (one case mom, another case grandma) died from something else in Romania and received between 500 and 400 euros to sign such Covid-death papers. It's not a myth, it's really real.[/QUOTE]Yes I was told about it by a couple of different Romanian girls.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592791]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.
"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.
"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.
Adulterer.
Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.
Shitty human.
All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.[/QUOTE]Is 500 too much for your pea sized brain? Perhaps 5 Chinese characters is more your style?
"advocates for mass deportation " - it must cause you pain when your favorite Islamic thugs are denounced.
"sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters." - Who else besides you? Your second handle? Anyway, I called you a CCP thug.
"can't take people using common meme-speak. " Nice way to weasel your way out of taking responsibility for the nonsense you typed here.
"black dildo" - LOL. Speaking about your experiences growing up in the AMP that someone mentioned on this thread? In your case, might not have been a dildo, might have been slapped by a real thing. Sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered.
BTW, you still have and't replied why you are not a hypocrite for looking to spread the virus after talking endlessly about virus dangers; and how ugliness and education are so linked to racism. Is that from a survey in China done by your CCP masters?
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.
Unless by dumbing down, you are talking about the illegal immigration of dumbfucks like Murse that did bring down this country.
For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! Which population do you hail from and how much increase in intelligence has that group seen? Our economy and GDP are doing awesomely at this time, apparently all this dumbing down did not hurt us. Perhaps jealousy does funny things to some people.
"Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate" - as you see it.
No one from the media, especially the liberal media thought Trump won any of the debates and yet he won the primaries.
Shapiro appeals to you perhaps because you agree with him or find him less threatening than Tucker is; be that as it may, Tucker's ratings are coming from paying users. That you agree more personally with Shapiro's positions have no bearing on it. You can't wish way things you don't agree with.
It is amusing that foreigners are always so concerned about drift in the US politics and paint doomsday scenarios and wish that things happened in a different way. The fate of this country, the direction we take are in the hands of the voters of this country. I may not agree with many things that happen in my country but if voters vote that way, they did. SO be it. I don't come to the German forums and demand or even wish that they voted this way or that way. I respect their right to choose their own path. Even on something as simple as 2017 rule change, if German legislators wanted to change their laws on sex, that's their prerogative. I don't pass halfassed assessments that the populations or legislators are dumbed down. Talk about being fucking arrogant.
Here is a question: the people of China don't even have a right to make their own choices. In the past few years, their government has taken far more dramatic changes in their direction that we ever did in the west. They have threatened Japan and South Pacific nations about territorial claims, constantly threatening Taiwan, abrogated all rights in HK, and now actively canceling numerous property rights in their country and especially going after foreign investors who funded the very development of their country. And yet, I don't see any murmur from some people here but they are so eagerly concerned about every small change in US politics and painting it in alarmist terms.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2593316]And you know everything?[/QUOTE]No, I don't know everything, I never claimed that. But I certainly know more than somebody whose preferred sources of information includes dog portrait painters.
I have spent time in Romania for work and know quite a few people from there or still living there, not just prostitutes. Romanian people I know have degrees in computer science up to PhD, a few of them from universities in US, UK or Germany, I know 3 doctors, one dentist, some quants with advanced math degrees, one math prof at a university, a few engineers, etc.
I admit, none of them paints portraits of dogs or hamsters.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.
For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! [/QUOTE]What you see as attack, I see as constructive criticism. You have a pot-smoking teenage son in your house, you ride his ass because there still exists an opportunity to remediate and correct. You have a 50 year old son still living in your basement? That's a lost cause. You kick him out of the house, and give him his inheritance early to ease your guilt.
Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:
[QUOTE]It literally changes your relationship with society, with each other. It probably interferes with productivity in weird ways. God only knows what its doing to our childrens brains, he said.
He explained that when Facebook was being developed the objective was: How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible? It was this mindset that led to the creation of features such as the like button that would give users a little dopamine hit to encourage them to upload more content.
Its a [b]social-validation feedback loop[/b] exactly the kind of thing that a hacker like myself would come up with, because you're exploiting a vulnerability in human psychology.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/09/facebook-sean-parker-vulnerability-brain-psychology.[/QUOTE]We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.
Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries. Japan and Korea became wealthy relatively recently. That "catch up" mode created an overwork culture and we are starting to see the consequences of that now. China may face a similar fate in the next 2-3 decades.
USA politics is world politics. And it has been that way for over 100 years. You pull any random person in Africa, the Middle East, Europe, or Japan. Less than 25 percent would know Xi Jinping. You ask them to name American politicians past and present, and they would easily name five. That speaks to America's place in the world.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593112]At the same time, Shapiro picks on idealistic college kids and "owns" them. Or other empty shell liberal talking heads. Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet.[/QUOTE]I do not know that many political pundits, so I will take your word for it on that assessment. But between Shapiro, Trump, and Tucker Carlson, who is the Harvard-educated lawyer? Do not need Wikipedia to know the answer that. My point is success is now based on how well you polarize. That is the new cultural currency.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593319]Is 500 too much for your pea sized brain? Perhaps 5 Chinese characters is more your style?
"advocates for mass deportation " - it must cause you pain when your favorite Islamic thugs are denounced.
"sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters." - Who else besides you? Your second handle? Anyway, I called you a CCP thug.
"can't take people using common meme-speak. " Nice way to weasel your way out of taking responsibility for the nonsense you typed here.
"black dildo" - LOL. Speaking about your experiences growing up in the AMP that someone mentioned on this thread? In your case, might not have been a dildo, might have been slapped by a real thing. Sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered.
BTW, you still have and't replied why you are not a hypocrite for looking to spread the virus after talking endlessly about virus dangers; and how ugliness and education are so linked to racism. Is that from a survey in China done by your CCP masters?[/QUOTE]You seem frustrated. Take a breath little guy.
I'll leave it up to you to answer your own bullet points that have already been answered. Quoting your posts in the past that directly refuted your own claims has always resulted in you just ignoring your own false claims. Not surprising give presumed weasel-like character. You're a shitty human who has constructed a phoney clean image. It's pretty clear.
As for 2 people, well pretty sure you also suggested McA to also have CCP allegiance based on what you know about a person's race.
In the past I've made the comment asking you to try harder in your retort. I take it back. You tried, and it's clear you have no comedic ability, just lame anger.
Seriously, who uses "thug" as an insult? What a tool.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.
Unless by dumbing down, you are talking about the illegal immigration of dumbfucks like Murse that did bring down this country.
For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! Which population do you hail from and how much increase in intelligence has that group seen? Our economy and GDP are doing awesomely at this time, apparently all this dumbing down did not hurt us. Perhaps jealousy does funny things to some people.
"Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate" - as you see it.
No one from the media, especially the liberal media thought Trump won any of the debates and yet he won the primaries.
Shapiro appeals to you perhaps because you agree with him or find him less threatening than Tucker is; be that as it may, Tucker's ratings are coming from paying users. That you agree more personally with Shapiro's positions have no bearing on it. You can't wish way things you don't agree with..[/QUOTE]Yet, another essay when criticizing others of diatribes. The lack of self-awareness is glaring.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412]Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:
We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.[/QUOTE]Counterpoint. Is it dumbing down populations or is it just taking previously unheard voices (often poorly informed or conspiratorial) and giving them podiums?
I like to think that the people of the past who would have otherwise educated themselves on a subject are still making the initiative to read entire articles, critically analyze, and verify facts / claims.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"It is amusing that foreigners are always so concerned about drift in the US politics and paint doomsday scenarios and wish that things happened in a different way. The fate of this country, the direction we take are in the hands of the voters of this country. I may not agree with many things that happen in my country but if voters vote that way, they did. SO be it. I don't come to the German forums and demand or even wish that they voted this way or that way. I respect their right to choose their own path. Even on something as simple as 2017 rule change, if German legislators wanted to change their laws on sex, that's their prerogative. I don't pass halfassed assessments that the populations or legislators are dumbed down. Talk about being fucking arrogant.[/QUOTE]McA,
What Passport do you carry? What does your birth certificate say? Are you a "foreigner?" Alas, whatever the answer, you'll always be a foreigner in the eyes of a bigot. The more I hear him, the more it seems that he's probably a patent office workhorse. He clearly does not exude "boss" energy.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412]What you see as attack, I see as constructive criticism. You have a pot-smoking teenage son in your house, you ride his ass because there still exists an opportunity to remediate and correct. You have a 50 year old son still living in your basement? That's a lost cause. You kick him out of the house, and give him his inheritance early to ease your guilt.
Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:
We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.
Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries. Japan and Korea became wealthy relatively recently. That "catch up" mode created an overwork culture and we are starting to see the consequences of that now. China may face a similar fate in the next 2-3 decades.
USA politics is world politics. And it has been that way for over 100 years. You pull any random person in Africa, the Middle East, Europe, or Japan. Less than 25 percent would know Xi Jinping. You ask them to name American politicians past and present, and they would easily name five. That speaks to America's place in the world.[/QUOTE]How is it constructive criticism when you characterize an entire nation, or at least half of them who voted for a specific person as having ADHD and have been dumbed down? That is an ad hominem attack at best.
But your point about Shapiro has been made in liberal media about Romney, Kasich, Kinzinger, etc. They and others are liberal media's fav conservatives. The reality is that definition of conservativism has shifted. What they like, dislike, their values, who they want to represent them, how they see themselves, all of it. Again, you don't agree with that shift and wish that things were as they were in 1980's or 1990's with Rockefeller Republicans still in charge, that is all fine but that is not the reality. People change and it is their prerogative. But you can't express your disappointment at this shift by calling them dumb and having ADHD. That is arrogance of the highest order. If you think you believe in Democracy but accept only verdicts that suit your values, then you are not a believer in democracy.
I am not talking about being aware of US vs Chinese politicians, names etc. -- that is a very superficial observation. I am talking about passing judgements. The shifts in US actions due to shifts in US politics are miniscule as compared to the seismic shifts that are happening in China as they unfold in front of our eyes. Xi effectively became president for life. Remember the amount of media outrage when Trump thought aloud if he followed Putin / Xi in that regard. The changes on property rights in the last 9 months in China are absolutely massive. The country is morphing into a socialist country completely. Entire sectors have been wiped out. And they have become extremely bellicose. I forgot earlier they also got into a skirmish with India a year or two ago. It is a huge hypocrisy to totally stay silent on all these issues but hold a magnifying glass on every small inequity / oddity in the US. And we are not even talking about their conduct w. r. T. Covid.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412] Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:
Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries..[/QUOTE]This is totally unrelated to the original post that kickstarted this; but a few things:
The first short video format site was vine, which got acquired by TWTR and which basically killed it; Tik Tok launched a couple of years later; Douyin operates in China but the parent company Bytedance bought musical. Ly which is the foundation of tik tok.
It is true that format became popular at mass level in China than internationally; FB focused on IG and copied many features of Snap; I know FB has regretted leaving the short video space to Tik Tok to this extent.
I don't know if social media causes ADHD and attention shortening or if that was already there and social media provides an outlet. The BBC link even disputes attention spans are truly short now.
I do know social media companies do tons of research about users interact with media / internet and tailor their products. This sort of research was simply not done 30 years ago, the ability to dissect the data at that scale was not there. Here is one link.
[URL]https://helplama.com/human-attention-span/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/health-38896790[/URL]
Apps like tik tok know exactly how many times users open their app, how long they stay before moving on, what they are doing when they open the app, are they in the car, in the train, in between classes in school walking to a new classroom, sitting on a toilet, sitting on the couch watching sports on TV but tuning into the app between commercial breaks, WG checking into the social app while taking a break with the John, whatever. They commission studies to study every aspect of these details; the end goal is to bring the user more frequently to the app, keep the user engaged for longer time on the app, and of course show them more targeted ads and making them buy stuff, then and there.
I don't know the attention span itself has changed that much over time, but 30 years ago technology had not advanced sufficiently to provide the perfect distraction to the user as efficiently as they can do today.
I have no interest in characterizing these changes as good or bad. They are what they are. Change is the only constant and there is no point bemoaning them. The way you grew up is very likely vastly different from how your great grandpa might have; was that good or bad?