Panama City

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2814276]Gentleman,

Newbie here (I have read everything I could find on the forum) one question, about pay. I have heard most say they negotiate up front, but pay AFTER, and then tip if they service is special. I have heard some say, they pay upfront. I understand paying for transport / driver upfront, no problem, but do you ever pay first? I have read members talk about how they pay for XYZ, they receive half and then the get bait / switch.

I am looking at escort outcall, probably at my hotel.

I apologize if I am posting this in the wrong forum, but you guys seem to have a lot of knowledge, so I am asking here.

In addition, while I have lots of ideas about PTY, anyone have any recommendations for Bocas DelToro?

And finally, is there a "Newbies guide to Mongering, The top 20 things a newbie must know" anywhere here on the forum? I same some things under FAQ, but nothing like the sage advice I am gettin from you guys.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Another day in Panama City. Went on a tour chagris river and embrera village tour. They row you to a waterfall and lunch at a tribal village. Nice scenery but you need to be fit to walk through the jungle. My companion was a lady from USA. We had great time together and still keep in touch. The tour guide lived in USA on the way back to drop me we started talking about girls. He said he can set me up. Attached is the picture of a girl who I did not like. Although he claimed he knows many this is the only picture he sent.

In the evening went to Mercado Marisco restaurant and had ceviche and fried fish. Very tasty and not expensive. After that went to Hilton casino and played blackjack. Went to the bar. Lots of girls outside hotel as well as in bars. All looking for punters. Most are past sell by date. Found a young Colombian and negotiated $100 for couple of hours. Fairly pretty with nice enhanced boobs but would not allow pictures. There is a way on the side to get her to the room without going through reception. Had a good time but nothing like a GFE I get in Asian countries. BBBJ and some rimming with condom sex. I was tired but she got on top till she came and missionary after and I came. Had shower together and talked for a long time about life and love. Had to escort her out.

Advice to the poster who asked is that whole of Panama City turns into a brothel at night time. There are girls outside and inside bars in the hotel and other bars. Do not need escort service here. Just approach, talk, settle and take her to the room. Most can be had for $100 for ST. I saw lots of older ladies trying to look young. Hit the bars and casinos and girls are everywhere. Service wise it will be like box of candy. Unfortunately that is the present situation worldwide.

Day two and three. Considering my age and that day one was eight hours of travel time and three hours or horizontal mambo this old boy took day 2 off.

The hotel is quite busy. I'm definitely not the only one participating in this hobby. In my short time in the lobby I've seen several going up and several coming down.

Day three I have the pleasure of the company for a few hours of a petite little thing from Seeking. She's probably going to get a callback.

My partner in crime and other things is arriving today. So we'll probably be hitting the streets tonight. A more accurate report of the bar on the corner and casino action later.

Lee.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2814478]Another day in Panama City. Went on a tour chagris river and embrera village tour. They row you to a waterfall and lunch at a tribal village. Nice scenery but you need to be fit to walk through the jungle. My companion was a lady from USA. We had great time together and still keep in touch. The tour guide lived in USA on the way back to drop me we started talking about girls. He said he can set me up. Attached is the picture of a girl who I did not like. Although he claimed he knows many this is the only picture he sent.
.[/QUOTE]The girl whose pics you attached has been around for a while, close to a year anyway, and has gone by Paulina. She's a Colombian from Cali. Very nice figure and decent face. I tried to pick her up from the Ocean's Casino Bar a couple times, but she started at $200 and wouldn't go below $140. She was also very adamant that it be 1 hour, not a minute over. I didn't get a great vibe from her so never took her.

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2814276]Gentleman,

Newbie here (I have read everything I could find on the forum) one question, about pay. I have heard most say they negotiate up front, but pay AFTER, and then tip if they service is special. I have heard some say, they pay upfront. I understand paying for transport / driver upfront, no problem, but do you ever pay first? I have read members talk about how they pay for XYZ, they receive half and then the get bait / switch.

And finally, is there a "Newbies guide to Mongering, The top 20 things a newbie must know" anywhere here on the forum? I same some things under FAQ, but nothing like the sage advice I am gettin from you guys.[/QUOTE]Regardless of country, 99% of the time negotiate up front and pay after. Now and then the girl will push and I may put it out front or give her half up front, but that's once in a blue moon. Usually if they push really hard for payment upfront I show them the door. I'll tip for non-standard things in a given country, if the interaction was really GFE, or if I expect to see the girl again. For overnights I'm usually less likely to tip as they're already getting a good payment.

I don't usually pay for transport, but given Ubers are so cheap I'll often pay for their ride back.

For other monger items I think you can find on the various forums. I happen to believe strongly in having my own condoms, lube packets (sometimes flavored for the girls), massage lotion, and ample Listerine mouthwash for the girl and myself. For girls I see more than once I'll have small gifts like perfume or lingerie that you can pick up cheaply online. The girls love that stuff.

Day four:

The bar on the corner is a complete zero. It may be open but it ain't functioning. Zero activity beyond the cigar bar.

The caf a few doors down from the AC is buzzing. A lot of people on the streets.

Went to the casino. A lot of activity but nothing that tickled my fancy. Did have some good nachos and an excellent Rum and Coke.

My buddy made a few bucks at the blackjack tables. I expended my cash on food and alcohol. Lots of ladies. Certainly more than the 20 that has been reported. But as I said nothing I felt like taking home. Let's remember I'm 76 so just being out this late it's an accomplishment.

There's always tomorrow it is another day and I do have a date at 1 PM with a petite Young thing. Anybody notice a pattern there?

Lee.

Another beautiful day in Panama. After breakfast took Uber to Panamacanal Miraflores locks. The girl said no ships passing in the morning because of low water level. She said I can come back in the afternoon. But I have already seen how locks work on my Egyptian Nile Cruise. So no need to come back. They do have a I Max show. Excellent presentation. Must see. Went and looked at the Locks. Nothing special. They are building new Locks for larger ships.

Took Uber to Casco Vieho. Old town alleyways with lots of shops, restaurants, Bars. Walked around and few trinkets and a Panama Hat.

After Uber to Mercado Marisco. Plenty of fish. Bought 5 Lobster Tails for $15. Right outside they cook for you. Paid $10. Very tasty.

Nice rest and in the evening went to Sun Casino. Practically dead. Went to Hilton. Plenty of people and lots of girls. There were few good looking young ones. Talked to few none would come down from $150 maybe because of Saturday night. Gambled and had many drinks at the bar. Best nachos I tasted. None of the other girls tickled my fancy. Many of them are fat. Called it a night and went back to the room.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;2813869]Its a big no no to use your personal phone for mongering activity. You should certainly get a local sim, and use that for whatsapp communication for getting Chicas online. BTW, panescorts you are connecting directly to the chica there is not middle person. But if you go to inperson location (Goldfinger or other massage places), you get to see what you are going to get.[/QUOTE]I think the best way to go out and see what you are getting. Seems like PTY was a fine place for that (e. G. Cafe Habanos, Alejandros, Casnion). , but one question.

I have been looking on Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I Was thinking of Incall, but I hear some require you showing ID get into or enter her place? I don't want to have to show my ID.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Red1960;2814332]I was in panama a few weeks in January and I flew from the city to bocas on air panama. Took around an hour you fly into small airport they have a dog sniffing all the luggage from the plane. I did take the bus back from David to Panama City it took around 7 hours. I saw a few girls from panescort site at their place and I alway paid them after. Uber fairly cheap in Panama City so much cheaper to go to their place than paying a fee at hotel. I felt safe around most of the city but I didn't take my real billfold I carried one with a little money few fake cards just in case got robbed or pick pocketed. It's fun this old gringo wanting to go back. Have fun.[/QUOTE]I looked on Panescorts, couldn't find anything in Bocas except one chica posting from 2 years ago.

I will look again.

Day five:

Quiet Sunday. Stay with me it gets better. Some coffee at 7 AM and breakfast at 8 AM. Played around on the Internet. Got a confirmation for 1 o'clock date. Cute petite Panamanian. The pretty young thing arrived on time and massively improved my trip that has been so dull so far.

Absolutely adorable. She warned me that she would be very shy at first but when she got comfortable with me would be much better. Put it bluntly about an hour after her arrival I was laying on my back barely able to speak and begging her to come back tomorrow. Absolutely adorable young lady.

She only lives about seven minutes from the hotel so I'm thinking twice a day. Once in the morning again in the late evening. OK who am I kidding. I slept for four hours after she left ain't no Way this old boys doing it twice a day.

I was beginning to think I lost my touch. But it was just a slow start.

I'm looking forward to the next couple of days. I need to rest up.

Lee.

My experience with incall had been different in different incall locations. In some places, they asked to see ID, and they didn't enter any details. And in others, they entered in a paper log. And in some they didn't have any security guard. So it all depends on provider, how high end condo the Chica is living in. But I wouldn't much worry about it. IMHO, I am more comfortable providing my ID in those chica location than getting them registered as a guest in the hotel. Thats just me.

[QUOTE=Diogenees;2814918]I think the best way to go out and see what you are getting. Seems like PTY was a fine place for that (e. G. Cafe Habanos, Alejandros, Casnion). , but one question.

I have been looking on Panescorts and lagaleriapty, and I Was thinking of Incall, but I hear some require you showing ID get into or enter her place? I don't want to have to show my ID.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Where did you find this cute petite Panamian? Appreciate any details of her.

[QUOTE=Lee;2814930]Day five:

Quiet Sunday. Stay with me it gets better. Some coffee at 7 AM and breakfast at 8 AM. Played around on the Internet. Got a confirmation for 1 o'clock date. Cute petite Panamanian. The pretty young thing arrived on time and massively improved my trip that has been so dull so far.

Absolutely adorable. She warned me that she would be very shy at first but when she got comfortable with me would be much better. Put it bluntly about an hour after her arrival I was laying on my back barely able to speak and begging her to come back tomorrow. Absolutely adorable young lady.

She only lives about seven minutes from the hotel so I'm thinking twice a day. Once in the morning again in the late evening. OK who am I kidding. I slept for four hours after she left ain't no Way this old boys doing it twice a day.

I was beginning to think I lost my touch. But it was just a slow start.

I'm looking forward to the next couple of days. I need to rest up.

Lee.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;2815083]Where did you find this cute petite Panamian? Appreciate any details of her.[/QUOTE]All the girls I have seen over the last three years have been from Seeking Arrangements. I don't give out names to people I don't know. There's a lot of strange people out there and I would not want to be partially responsible for these girls getting hurt. They are very vulnerable.

Lee.

[QUOTE=Lee;2815138].I would not want to be partially responsible for these girls getting hurt. They are very vulnerable.

Lee.[/QUOTE]Well said, Good for you.

Day six:

Routine. Coffee at seven breakfast at eight afternoon delight at one. The giver of great pleasure arrived early and stayed late. This time we both went to sleep on the couch. No extra charge.

After her departure spend my time on the couch recovering. 6 PM some dinner. Chilling out for the rest of the evening and resting up for tomorrow's adventures.

Lee.

Panama is very good mongering wise for a short trip. Very safe in the daytime and Uber is cheap to travel anywhere. Excellent cheap food if you like seafood. Clean city with everything hygienic.

Girls are everywhere. Bars, casinos are teeming with available girls. Can negotiate fees for everything. $100 is standard for ST. Hard to find real beautiful girls. Lots of older girls. Younger girls also are flashy, boobs pushed up or enhanced, some with bubble butt. Girls do not approach you. They do smile. You need to approach and start talking. Sone speak manageable English. If you know basic Spanish it is perfect. I did not get any GFE vibe. It is all business. I do not think bareback is available.

Since all dealings are in dollars there is no need to mentally convert. Most girls are in a group and at least two. Very rarely just a single girl standing or sitting by herself. Makes it harder to negotiate. Drink prices are closer to USA prices. Good drinks by the way.

I had only three encounters and not an expert in local scene. Since I took some nice tours I was busy and too tired after. Did not venture into Facebook, tinder etc. I was hoping for LT but did not pan out. If I am going to pay $300 for LT I would rather wait till I go to Asia where I pay less than $100.

I used to have great time before when all girls stayed all night in Costa Rica, Panama, Dominican Republic. And much cheaper. All the places have become more expensive and girls have become mercenary.