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[QUOTE=Amazake;2824243]With respect to over 100 HPV viruses, I have included the following quoted material from medical sources:

"Most men who get HPV never have symptoms. The infection usually goes away by itself. But, if HPV does not go away, it can cause genital warts or certain kinds of cancer. Talk to your healthcare provider about anything new or unusual on your penis, scrotum, anus, mouth, or throat.

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Men definitely need to be concerned about human papillomavirus (HPV). More than 40 types of HPV can be passed on through genital or oral sexual contact, and HPV can infect men's genital areas, including the skin on and around the penis or anus, as well as the mouth and throat.[/QUOTE]A true story.

A friend of mine was also a hobbyist. He got a genital wart. He found out he has HPV. His wife divorced him.

About 10 year later, he developed a throat cancer. It needed to be removed. It is a very risky procedure because it is very close to the air pipe.

During the operation, there was complications. The air pipe was blocked, heart stopped beating, blood flow to the brain stopped. My friend and I lives in a city best known for cancer research. His doctor is very experienced in this type of operation. Air was pumped to the lung, his heart was restarted. The operation was considered a success.

A few years later, he started to feel tingling sensation from his extremeties at night. He started to talk a little slower. His ability to understand complex concept lessened.

He no longer hobby because he finds interacting with strange girls with unfamiliar phone numbers and addresses confusing.

Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825376]Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.[/QUOTE]I think that you find nothing decent with 5 K, personally I think that in Taipei, a young teen needs 8 K-10 K as baseline. So Taipei is expensive for outcall fun.

Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825376]Hi All,

First time posting here and looking for some advice. Currently I am staying here in Taipei for a month and looking for some fun in the meantime. I am trying to find something a bit more "high-end" (not tea house / KTV / street) but I am not getting much from searching online and reading everything here. One thing I noticed is jkf and I see options such as 60-90 mins for about 2-3 k twd, but I am wondering if there are better options out there. I am willing to pay up to 5 k per hour if that is some sort of an indication. Also, I am Asian and speak fluent mandarin so hopefully that broadens my scope a bit. Thanks in advance for all the suggestion I can get.

Thanks again and stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825466]Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.[/QUOTE]From mathematical expectation point of view, if the probability to have a good quality girl is 10%, then the price to pay to get a good girl will be 5 K /10% = 50 K.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825466]Read through Filler's posts cause he probably fits your description the best. He is fluent in Mandarin and has dabbled plenty at your price point.

I am quite well-versed now in the MR, EG listings. Quite a few of them will come down to 6 k (that's my number) so I'd imagine quite a few also will come down to 5 k. In fact, it's not unusual to see a quality girl who advertises at 5 k off the bat. That said, the listings are hit or miss and you'll need to spend time really trying to sort it all out and decide who's most likely the type of girl you want to see.

Again, I default to Filler's experience in terms of lower price, Mandarin-only listings or spas.

I see where Didier is coming from with his comment about higher prices as a baseline, but I think that's strictly for outcall. If that's not necessary for you, then incall would be the higher value play.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2825530]From mathematical expectation point of view, if the probability to have a good quality girl is 10%, then the price to pay to get a good girl will be 5 K /10% = 50 K.[/QUOTE]So far I have seen 5 girls from the websites at the 5 k price point or lower. Everything depends on your perception and preferences obviously, but I'the say all five were "good. " Two are ATFs and two were very good, only one was borderline good and she was actually 2. 5 k. So honestly I'the say my hit rate has been 80% or 100% depending on your rigidity in what is good.

BTW, I don't disagree with you on the price point. My 5 k is for incall. Most of them that I see at the at price are nearly double for outcall, which is what you seem to be paying as a baseline for outcall. So we're on the same page, it's just that if you're willing to do incall then the price can be lower.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825575]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.[/QUOTE]Saw I got mentioned so I'll just throw in my opinion / experiences in regards to your price range.

Most of my the girls I met were through JKF / some sort of pimp via LINE. You can also find some reviews of the girls available via pimps on a website if you just google sex 100.

Girls range anywhere from 2 k - 5 k per hour, 1's, with +500-1000 for +1's.

IMO I don't think the price range from 2-8 k will determine the quality of experience you can have. I've paid 8 k for 90 min sessions that were just mediocre but the girls were hotter, and also paid 3. 4 k for 60 minutes with an more average looking girl but the service she provided was much more superior. So it all comes down to luck in finding the girls with excellent service as well as what you're looking for.

As for using JKF / reviews to determine which girls are good, here are a couple things I use when considering contacting a girl:

1. User journal reviews: reviews posted under an ad on JKF with no link to an actual diary / report on the users page are kind of useless. I believe some of these messages are either bots / pimps trying to promote the girls since a lot of them are copy pasted. What you want to look through are the reviews under the ad that will link to the users journal, and provide much more detailed reports. They usually will rate the girls face, body, and attitude + what services they provide such as CIM, or +1's freebies or will it cost more. These reviews are much more valuable and the more the better. You can use these to determine if you want to visit that girl. A lot of these users also have a lot of reviews, so you can also just skim through their reviews to find a girl instead of looking at the ads directly.

2. Pictures: Since most of the pictures on JKF ads are highly edited / P.S./ covered, if you can get access to more pictures than the ones on the ad, the higher likelihood of a better experience. Usually this means clicking through a post that links to the users journal / diary / report and there should be more pictures there or finding a pimp and asking directly.

3. Being a regular: Since you're only here for a short while, this might not be suitable for you. But if you can find a pimp with a decent selection of girls, and consistently use them, they will send you pics of the new girls first before they are put on JKF.

4. Number of reviews: On JKF the number of reviews / comments aren't that important IMO. Usually more reviews = better experience but I've also seen girls with less than 3 comments on the ads and just went for it and it was one of the better experiences I had.

If you're willing to dish out a little more money like you said, you can try the girls on MR / Euro that have a lot of favorable reviews, just be aware that the rate of post-ops is higher and do your research beforehand. Note: never just agree to the girls initial price. They deliberately say the price is high on purpose and you can usually get them down to 5 k.

My ultimate recommendation every time is still Helen on Euro. She's still probably one of the best experiences I've had but costs 10 k per hour / no negotiation.

Sorry if what I wrote out is a little sloppy, I did it in a hurry and didn't double check it. If you have any questions while your here, feel free to ask on the forum. Most of my info is from personal experience + this forum combined.

Feel free to view some of my field reports from a month or 2 back that I posted here for more detailed experiences I had.

[QUOTE=Xiaoli2222;2825575]Thanks, yeah I am mainly looking for incall. I am also not oppose to spending in the upwards of 6-10 k if I can get a good experience as this is about the same price range that I am used to in the States. Price is not a huge concern to me, primarily just looking for a good time since I will only be here for a short period. I am just curious as what is the consensus on all the listings on jkf, there are some extensive reviews which seem decent. I am just a bit apprehensive since the price is so cheap.[/QUOTE]My two favorites from my time in Taiwan and arguably my two favorites (or at least equal to) ever, were both 5 k. So spending more doesn't mean better, although I would say it might improve the odds slightly of a quality girl. But really the girls just price themselves however they want based on how they feel they're worth and / or what they feel is worth it to them, so there's not necessarily a strong correlation of fair market value across the independents. Going through an agency may be a very different story. Also, I'd add that ever since I decided that 6 k was my limit, I've had a 15 k quote drop down to 7 k (I ended up still not seeing her cause she wanted that night only and it wasn't going to work for me) and I've had several 12 k requests cut in half to 6 k. So really most are going to be able to come down in price.

All of this said, I still bet that JKF and Filler's other directions will probably yield the best value for you. My Mandarin isn't quite up to that standard yet.

[QUOTE=AbcGators;2825608]So far I have seen 5 girls from the websites at the 5 k price point or lower. Everything depends on your perception and preferences obviously, but I'the say all five were "good. " Two are ATFs and two were very good, only one was borderline good and she was actually 2. 5 k. So honestly I'the say my hit rate has been 80% or 100% depending on your rigidity in what is good.

BTW, I don't disagree with you on the price point. My 5 k is for incall. Most of them that I see at the at price are nearly double for outcall, which is what you seem to be paying as a baseline for outcall. So we're on the same page, it's just that if you're willing to do incall then the price can be lower.[/QUOTE]Totally on the same wavelength. By the way, is incall safe and easy please? It takes place in public hotel or in residential flat? How proceed? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Filler17;2825708]Saw I got mentioned so I'll just throw in my opinion / experiences in regards to your price range.
Most of my the girls I met were through JKF / some sort of pimp via LINE. You can also find some reviews of the girls available via pimps on a website if you just google sex 100.
[/QUOTE]Please what is JKF? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2825835]Please what is JKF? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The f stands for forum, so if you expand the word and search for that you'll find it. There are 2 sections on there, for massage and hotel / uniform if you look under the "Variety" section on the main page.

It's a bit intimidating at first, but once you get to used to it then it's not bad.

[QUOTE=AsiaFever;2825869]The f stands for forum, so if you expand the word and search for that you'll find it. There are 2 sections on there, for massage and hotel / uniform if you look under the "Variety" section on the main page.

It's a bit intimidating at first, but once you get to used to it then it's not bad.[/QUOTE]I cannot see what you mean, could you please be more explicit? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Didier5810;2826099]I cannot see what you mean, could you please be more explicit? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sent you a DM.

Hey everyone,

Thanks for the detailed posts about JKF. I've been loitering on those forums for months now, and have added over 50 accounts with a lot of reviews, but never actually met someone. I usually see the same comment copy pasted on multiple profiles, and then see the same girl posted by multiple different pimps. I really want to be heading to a private room instead of a brothel sort of place. I'm quite worried about hidden cameras and the like.

I have also tried to find posts with a journal / blog in the comments, but haven't been able to find much. I usually just click on posts with a lot of comments and read them, but most of them don't have a blog post.

So my question for you is, do you have some girls that you would recommend? Please PM me if that works.

How did you filter out the private workers versus the pimps? Did you go to those brothel type establishments as well?

How do you ensure that the room is safe?

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