East China - Shanghai

hi,

first post. thought i'd share my story. left my hotel, gran melia, and went walking around. deliberately left wallet and cards in hotel, and only had 2k cash and my phone. by the marriott, i was approached by a hot looking girl, who kept following me, even into mcdonalds while i had dinner. then she hailed a cab and i got in figuring what the hell.

i didn't know about this forum, until after, when i searched about what happened to me.

on the way to the place, she was very nice talking about her family, and even showing pictures of them. finally we arrived at what was a seemingly a ktv place, and she led me to a room. there she begged for a drink and the mama too, and finally i relented. the girl left, and the mama brought in six girls, of which i picked number one from nanjing. then she wanted a drink too. while this was going on they brought fruit and nuts into the room too. when nj girl was alone with me she gave me a horrendous hj, while people were coming in and out of the room. when she finished, she said she come back with some towels, but never saw that one again.

two dudes came in next. one was clearly muscle and he actually seemed like he didn't want to be there.

the other guy had an adding machine and he did some sums and presented me a bill for rmb23k. i smelled a setup and stayed calm, though inside i was a cross between shit scared and thinking how can i talk my way out of this one. anyways, i said i don't have that. i only have about 1800, he can have it, as i need at least 100 to get home. he said nope the prices were clearly marked on the table, to which i saw a very faded price list, and sure enough when i did my own sums, it came to that exact 23k figure.

unbelievably, he was trying to make small talk while i was trying to do the sums on my iphone. something about he is a foreigner too, being japanese in shanghai. i didn't care, by then i wanted this all behind me. when i got defensive / adamant about not having the money, he kept saying he was being polite and i was being unnecessarily hostile. by then i was less worried about the muscle, as he didn't say a peep, didn't uncross his arms, and didn't even look up.

finally, after emptying my pockets about 20 minutes of going in circles i had convinced the spiky haired japanese guy that i couldn't pay, but i have an atm card in my hotel. after he went back and forth with the manager, we came to an agreement that i would go back to my hotel, get my card, go to the bank, withdraw 10k, and pay the muscle guy, then i would walk home. no one recognized the gran melia, which i thought was pretty odd.

they sent in another girl, this one was old and ugly. but skinny and dressed like a real ****. so i went to the bathroom while muscle guy waited by the door of the bathroom. on the way out, i paid more attention. i saw several asian men singing with girls of all types passing the various rooms, which were well lit. then i really felt framed. as barely a table lamp was ever turned on in my room. at the front desk, i could see a white guy going through "ok, try this card" process. up the giant spiral staircase to the ground level, where i saw the original girl who took me to that spot. she was laughing with a doorman type, and when she saw me she just kept laughing and talking.

in the cab, i showed my hotel room card but the ugly girl said something in chinese and he said ok. either way we were going back under the water so i felt ok-ish. but when we stopped, there were about six very buffed out men, in "i'm going to kick your ass" black wife beaters. i actually blurted out,"oh shit". i pointed back to my card, and yelled at the driver,"take me here!" he just laughed and the ugly girl paid him. then from what i could gather, she wanted me to go to the convenience store with her, and i noticed the muscly guys had disappeared. by then the original muscle guy was getting irritated by the ugly girl.

by then i left the car because the driver was being a dick just laughing at me. i stepped into the store and the girl was trying to grab my arm. i pulled away and left the shop. back on the street i saw the original muscle guy standing there, and then a cab came going the other direction. i waved him down, and walked casually over to the cab (a van) , and get in and show him the hotel room card. he said ok, and we went away, by then the guy and girl were back outside of the store on the street and started chasing the van on foot. then the driver stopped at the light! i was so livid, but how could he know.

at every light i looked at every cab to see if i can find them. i thought so once but i guess it wasn't. i got back to the gran melia, and made a beeline to my room. when inside i let out a deep sigh. but then i thought, they know where i'm staying so they might be waiting for me later, so i don't know why, but i went to the bank and withdrew the 10k anyways. by then it was 2am, and i went back and slept. the next morning, nothing.

i had a flight in the afternoon after a client meeting, and by the time was through customs i was laughing about it. after all of that, and i was pretty scared then, i got off with only paying the cab fare to the venue. i don't know how it worked out that way, but i felt pretty lucky.

i can attest to the rule: don't go with touts!

be well.

well, its been a nice find after two days of casual chats, references from friends and hotel staff and quite an amount spent on trial.

finally found a chinese girl after few trial and errors. this one is to keep.

this is going to be long. bear with me.

was sure that i'm not going to find anyone in manhattan or judy's and with a dry massage season where i didn't expect anyone with an english skill, i asked few friends and was referred to couple of girls. well, not to take anything from the girls, they were stunners and we met in a starbucks but was turned off by their english skills. since i wanted someone for more than a week, language was a key to decide. i had to say no to these girls. (regret not saying yes for a short time.)

with a sad face, i was in a cab, going past shanghai international convention center. having no where to go, i thought,"if i could find one english speaking girl, it must be here." unfortunately, there was no convention. but that didn't bother group of girls hanging out near the entrance. curious enough, i approached them and was stopped since i was told something in mandarin. do no what that was.

grabbed some beer from family mart near by, i went to my hotel lobby and asked them to send an in-house massage lady. well, a pure traditional massage and nothing else. i said anyone after one hour and went to the room drinking. something went through my mind and i called up the lobby and said "no massage." i didn't know anything else to say. the girl on the other side asked something which i could barely understand. i repeated what i said and kept the phone. wore my boxer shorts, starter taking push ups in the room. (i generally do this to be fit but not a fitness freak.) i was sweating as the ac was off. after around half hour, i hear a knock on the door and i opened it and found a girl at the other end. i thought the receptionist didn't understand and i said "no massage" and tried to close the door. well, she stunned me by saying "i'm not the massage girl" and giggled.

surprised, i asked her who she was and she told me that she manages a massage place (a girl managing?) on some street and was referred by the receptionist friend. i saw that she eyed me. from head to toe. let me say this. i'm an average looking joe. i told her that i didn't want a massage and she asked back, what else i was looking for. everytime, i try to end a conversation, she asks me something and keeps on the conversation. she was beautiful and i was wearing just a boxer and i was growing. before that could turn to an embarassment, i said i will change and was about to close the door, she put her heeled leg between the door and the frame. i was taken a back and didn't know what to do. a guy with no mandarin skill and bringing a girl every alternate day to the same hotel, i didn't know how to react to this move and thought someone from the hotel is playing or going to scam me.

since the hotel has a camera in the corridor, i didn't mind changing to my jean and tee with the door open. she came in and saw three beer cans and stack of condoms. without wasting time, i asked her what she wanted. she said that the receptionist is a friend of hers and she referred and wanted to speak with me. i repeated the same "no massage." she said her name was "liu" and gave her her hand (not like shaking but with palm down. an invitation to kiss it). well, i may be not a chinese and defenitely know that liu can't be her name as i somehow think that its surname. so i asked her real name and she told me it was mei. i took her hand and smelt it and kissed it briefly and told her my name. once i was in my jean, i wore my sneakers and immediately walked out of the room. she followed me out and i closed the door and walked to the elevator. she was walking beside me and i didn't know where to go. i just didn't want to be alone and get scammed. i took the elevator down and to the large lobby and stormed out of the hotel to the open space. the weather was ok in the evening. she asked me where we were going and i said i was taking a walk. she stopped and asked me whether we are going to talk at all or not. this time i can see she was kind of irritated, the smile lost from her face. i turned back and asked her what does she want. she asked me whether we can sit somewhere and talk.

i told her we can go to a starbucks and talk. we walked for a while (brushing against each other) to a nearby starbucks. honestly, she was a sight to behold. a petite girl with her hair done as a large bun and elegantly pulled back to look like a receptionist or an air hostess. a warm smile and a lovely body shown a bit by the choice of skirt and stocking that she choose. i will describe her later. we sat down on a cozy couch with our bodies touching. when something is too good to be true in mongering scene, its always a trap or scam. this one was going in that direction. we ordered cafe mocha and some biscotti and sat down again.

i started with the basics. how did she find me? she was annoyed that she had repeated this many times that the receptionist told her. i asked her what specifically was told to her. and to my amazement, she told me that i was looking for sex and she can provide it. thats nice. i told her that i'm looking for one girl only till the end of the holidays. she was not committing for a week and said, first she needs to get comfy with me and only if the chemistry works out, then she can come with me. she was insisting on short term and i said, i wanted overnight atleast. thankfully, she spoke good english and i was more than happy to negotiate. well, she wanted 2500 for a night. now, i thought this is a buyers market with pickup clubs. i could have easily had 3 viets or someone else from the regular scene. i was willing to shell out 6000 for next ten days on this. and i was not eager to spend all on one night. i said no thanks. now here's the catch she said. if she feels that the chemistry is good and think that i can be like a bf to her, she will spend the next ten days with me for some shopping and feeding! i was dumbfounded. didn't know what to say to this. she was lovely and hot and damn fucking sexy for an average joe like me. i asked her 'why me? ' she said she is not traveling this year and wanted to stay in shanghai. and asked me casually, 'anyway, how lousy can one night get? ' i laughed and decided to take the chance and negotiated that it will be paid in the morning. it was late afternoon and we had all evening. we chatted for a while, normal chat getting to know each other. thankfully we had few common interests in books and music. that was a breadth of fresh air to me. we picked up some more beers, pringles, chocolates and tea from another family mart and went back to the hotel with the receptionist winking at both of us. we went to the room and upon closing the door and hanging the 'do not disturb' card in front, she started to kiss me, it was an awesome kiss. i probed deeper and deeper and she too was matching me every bit by bit. our saliva mixed and we were almost tearing our dresses apart. beneath that beautiful dress lies a great body to adore, admire, enjoy and make love.

normal (small for our size but average for east asia) boobs but perky and round without a sag. she has her nipples pierced and her navel pierced too. stopped to regain our breadth, we laughed and hugged for a bit as i was probing her ass, accentuated by a very high heel she was wearing. i opened couple of beers and gave her one and we took it. i was admiring her body and drinking my beer. i was so curious to know why she does what she does. it was simple. she wants to settle down later but was enjoying her time. thats why she says, she doesn't go out with chinese guys. one for the expat crowd only. elegant, sexy, intelligent and a cocktease. (on another note: i called up the newly mentioned gem in forum and she refused to serve me.)

the deed was awesome for some 20 mins. she is real tight, considering she has boned only expats! it was a sweaty sex and we were starting to stink. unmindful of the fact that i just came in that hole (with a condom, of course) , i went down on her. i think i have never done that. but yea, it was good. never thought about it when i did that. i dint make her cum with my dick but did that with my tongue and fingers!

we were then speaking about other interests and stuff like that. (as i have mentioned in my earlier post, i was in a mood for a companion and not just plain sex). i opened the tub and we were in it for an hour or so, gently washing each other, kissing, groping and drinking. we talked about her limits and what she won't do and what i won't do etc. thankfully, she was open to anal but she has never tried it. so if she refuses in the middle, she wants me to understand it, while shaking my tool with her hand. how can i say no to this, now! we came out and dressed and went out for a quick meal / snack in the nearby hotel.

we decided to drink tonite and started to bar hop for a while. she took me to alleys and small drinking places, i can't even remember. as usual, my jhonny took over and we took a cab to my hotel and started another session. this time i don't remember what happened and even she doesn't! early in the morning i woke up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and was fucking horny and she was sleeping with her face down. i slowly split her thighs and started to rim and jerk off. she moaned a little and woke up. i asked her to remain as she were. i was giving back something like what i received in my earlier trip to merrilyn. as i was about to cum, i went to her face and asked her for a bj till i came in her mouth.

tired, hungover and spent, i slept off and woke up to a great smell of breakfast ordered from the hotel room service. when the reality struck, i thought my 2500 is gone for couple of shots! gentleman as i was, i took out the money and she stopped saying after a week, with a smile! now, that i didn't expect. i have some cosplay fetish and asked her reluctantly whether she would oblige and she said fucking yes! i took her to shop with me, trying to get her dressed as schoolgirl, maid, cheerleader, nurse, secretary and finally one special thing.

we have decided to stay together till oct 12th, exploring mutual passions, driving around and spending time like real gf / bf.

i'm allowed one pic but will restrain from it.

i once again apologize for being so fucking long. but i think, its worth it.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1476929]I'm not sure how many of them are advertising the real pic. So it would be again trial and error. That's the reason I don't pick from web.

Had few nasty experiences.[/QUOTE]Most massage girls in China don't want to put their real photo on the website because China is actually a typically conservative country, If her genuine photo is observed by a friend, relative even her parents, she will be very embarrassed, her reputation will probably be entirely destroyed. On the other hand, some massage agencies use the fake photos is just for cheating, it may be a scam.

In addition, Happy Massage recently is developing a 'photo verification' function, it may be able to identify whether the photos of the massage girl are real or unreal.

[QUOTE=Jeddah88; 1477182]Hi,

First post. Thought I'd share my story. Left my hotel, Gran Melia, and went walking around. Deliberately left wallet and cards in hotel, and only had 2k cash and my phone. By the Marriott, I was approached by a hot looking girl, who kept following me, even into McDonalds while I had dinner. Then she hailed a cab and I got in figuring what the hell.

I can attest to the rule: don't go with touts!

Be well.[/QUOTE]Brother, first, congratulations on keeping your cool, waiting for an opportunity, and being bold enough to extricate yourself from the situation. Hopefully it will help others to remember the message never to go with (male or female) touts.

[QUOTE=ShHappyMassage; 1477499]Most massage girls in China don't want to put their real photo on the website because China is actually a typically conservative country, If her genuine photo is observed by a friend, relative even her parents, she will be very embarrassed, her reputation will probably be entirely destroyed. On the other hand, some massage agencies use the fake photos is just for cheating, it may be a scam.

In addition, Happy Massage recently is developing a 'photo verification' function, it may be able to identify whether the photos of the massage girl are real or unreal.[/QUOTE]If verification is built, then we know what to expect. So, how will Manhattan and Judy be during the holidays?

I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.

Returned to Shanghai Hotel last evening to say good- bye to a 'friend' of mine, #25, Tingting, who will leave soon. She is young, has an amazing body (but small tits) and just a wonderful attitude. She asked me to bring her friend along, which normally is not my thing, but I agreed this time. Her friend was #21, Angie. Angie was a bit more chubby than Tingting, but with great tits, so it was good match. She spoke English very well. And, same as Tingting, she had a great and very energetic attitude. I had a great time.

Lev

I just lived out my secretary dream.

I won't trouble everyone with another detailed report. But, it was an amazing experience and a new thrill to have it in your own office.

I have gone to this place before but never gone inside. The girl at the desk has been old, fat or covered in acne. I was always afraid that was the one I was getting. I guess I was wrong!

I have been going to Yuyan place when I wanted to get a quick massage near my hotel. The infamous #18 of Wanhandanglu (or some spelling like that- this is a different #18 of my previous post) has left and gone home to Chengdu to get married. She did refer me and a few others to her sister who works at Beijing lu. When you see her, you can tell they are sisters.

She is girl #10. The massage was 208RMB. She has a nice body (8) , breasts slightly bigger than the normal small breasted China girl. Much bigger than her sister's little strawberries. I saw her twice alone and once with another girl (story to follow). Her massage is ok but ask for the hard one. She really can't do a good softsensual massage. She allowed full touching. At one point, I sat up on the bed and held and kissed both breasts while she stood there and stroked me. She also offered to give me the finger up the butt if you were interested. She asked for a "small tip" but did not say how much. I gave her 120rmb (which is what I gave her sister incase she was comparing notes) and she was happy with that. I am sure the rest of you mongers could get away with 100rmb. She speaks very good English, was friendly and willing. Not the prettiest (face 6) but one to visit where you know what you are going to get. She does not think she gets enough business, so I think that is an opportunity for us to get a good relationship with her. As she is not the prettiest, she is probably not chosen as much.

After my double phoenix bust in my other post, I wanted a 2 girl massage. I went back and asked the guy at the desk. He thought I wanted 2 girls for 208 and said no. After I got through I would pay 416, he went to ask the girls. #10 and #8 came running. #10 recognized me from the last 2 stops. I had 2 girls giving me a massage, fingering both at the same time while face down. On the flip, they both let me undo their bras, kiss breasts. I fingered #8 and kissed her breasts while #10 did the HJ. #8 got really wet and was into it. #10 told me she was horny because she had not seen her husband back in the home city for a while. They were both great play toys. The did not have a good routine together, but were willing to do what I wanted and willing to please. I probably over tipped but it was excellent service and I had a lot of fun.

The place is 24X7 so anytime is good. I was pretty drunk another time at 4am after cruising Manhattans and Judy's. I stopped off at 1810 Beijing lu on the way back. I got #12. She was very pretty and a nice body. She told me she was willing to do a 3some with #1. #12 is probably an 8 overall. (remember I was drunk, so let me know if the beer goggles were on LOL). She was good, same routine. She would not budge off a 200rmb tip. I think being 4am and me smelling like 10 beers didn't help. She allowed full touching, kissing her breasts and all. Her massage was better than the other girls.

Bottom, line, lot's of good girls here, massages are not bad priced, starting to be my favorite place after Changping lu and #18. There is probably a CBJ or BBBJ with one of these girls but I never got around to it.

One other thing, not all the doors lock. If that is important to you (it is to me) , make sure you ask on the way in or point to the door when you get in the room.

The owner of Beijing lu is also the owner of Yuyan lu and Wanhangdang Lu. All are 24X7. All do HJ.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1477878]I have gone to this place before but never gone inside. The girl at the desk has been old, fat or covered in acne. I was always afraid that was the one I was getting. I guess I was wrong!

The place is 24X7 so anytime is good. I was pretty drunk another time at 4am after cruising Manhattans and Judy's. I stopped off at 1810 Beijing lu on the way back. I got #12. She was very pretty and a nice body. She told me she was willing to do a 3some with #1. #12 is probably an 8 overall. (remember I was drunk, so let me know if the beer goggles were on LOL). She was good, same routine. She would not budge off a 200rmb tip. I think being 4am and me smelling like 10 beers didn't help. She allowed full touching, kissing her breasts and all. Her massage was better than the other girls.[/QUOTE]Sam, will she do outcall for a night? I already have one and would love a threesome.

Did you get full service for only 298, or did she ask for a tip? Please go back and write down the street address and be sure to get her worker number. Otherwise your post is no helpful.

BJ.

I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.[/QUOTE]

This is my first good KTV experience.

My companion for next two weeks went to take her luggage so that she can move in with me. She stays in Qibao and I'm in Pudong. Quite a distance.

Went to a KTV 77something in Dongfang Lu to just spend sometime till she is back.

Cozy club. The guy was very accomodative as there was no crowd when I went in. The girls speak zero English. One actually spoke some broken English.

Spent some awesome two hours.

Downside: No girl wanted to come back to the room. Probably because my lack of Mandarin. Not sure about the reason.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1477771]I just lived out my secretary dream.

I won't trouble everyone with another detailed report. But, it was an amazing experience and a new thrill to have it in your own office.[/QUOTE]Did you actually do it with your secretary or did you hire / ask a girl to dress in an OL costume and act it out in your office?

That is a huge difference.

There is a modern Chinese proverb: For whatever reason, the Chinese characters are not displaying correctly.
(Loose translation: Let your secretary do the work, and when there is no work then you do her.)

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478062]Did you actually do it with your secretary or did you hire / ask a girl to dress in an OL costume and act it out in your office?

That is a huge difference.

There is a modern Chinese proverb: For whatever reason, the Chinese characters are not displaying correctly.

(Loose translation: Let your secretary do the work, and when there is no work then you do her.) [/QUOTE]Not with my real secretary. Its with a companion in my office.

Bros,

There are so many of them in Chinese cities. From reading reports, I know they are girl-friendly (why not? After all, they began by catering to middle class Chinese businessmen) but on the hotel search engines, they are more expensive than the average IBIS? Are they better in quality?

Since I come from overseas, I always pre-book my hotels because I have the fear of being over-charged if I just walk in without a reservation. Am I doing it wrong in China?

Oh, to you guys who always use the Hiltons and Marriotts who think I am cheap, please know that I don't travel on business, just to tour and play. So yes, I have a budget.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.