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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1586455]Man sees girl. Man asks girl to room. Girl says ok. Man fucks girl. Man showers. Man looks for next girl.

Robes and towels. Some men are naked. Entry anywhere from 30 to 90 euro depending on which club. Stay for the entire day. Most clubs have free food and alcohol. Can have sex in public or private room. Sex is anywhere from 25 euro to 60 euro for half hour depending on the club. Most clubs are 50 euro for half hour.

Girls do not ask for drinks. Only club I am aware of that girls ask you to buy them drinks is Dolce Vita. Don't act like a newbie and this will never happen.[/QUOTE]Summary of all. Thanks. I have never been in there due to visa problems against turkey, hope to come there soon!

I agree with [B]The Cane, Breadman and Neutron Flux[/B]. In my 1000 + posts and reports you won't find snarky comments but I do get annoyed by the newbie posts that purely waste bandwidth (examples given by these three). German FKK thread has excellent info and one only needs to spend 15 minutes reading ROD section (well maintained and updated by the captain) and come up with specific questions.

P.S. [B]Breadman[/B] is one of the most helpful posters on this thread, especially to newbies. IMHO any hint of criticism against him and people like him is undeserved. The fact that he sends unsolicited PMs full of useful information shows that he is one of those that care more about helping fellow mongers than his total "post count".

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1586977]I ran into a guy who was on one of these fkk tours. He had rented a car, and was simply sleeping in his car for a few hours. Generally, it is pretty safe around those places, so he was not afraid of getting mugged etc. Also, this was summer, so he won't freeze in the car. He was in the club till 4 AM anyway, on most days. He would sleep in the car till 9 or 10 AM, wake up, and drive to his next club. And then he was sleeping off for a few hours in a quiet area in the club, and then get on the prowl. Over a week, he saved nearly 400 bucks, per his claim.[/QUOTE]So funny you posted this. I found myself in the same situation after a long night at Yin Yang. My problem was that I was buzzed and stoned and it was closing time. I had GPS which showed several hotels in 2 KM distance but who knows which ones have an open reception at 2 AM. I drove 1 km from YY and pulled into the parking lot of a small office complex and slept in the car till 6 AM. Renting a station wagon where seats can go flat came in handy.

Hello All,

Just thinking about my next FKK adventure. Being summer soon I wondered what your thoughts were on clubs with garden areas, pools etc?.

I would like to get into the true FKK spirit of things and go for some good old balls out fucking in the summer sun.

Cheeky Dancer

Oase is still the club with the best garden and pool. Also beds at a discreet distance for fucking as well as outdoor tents for shyer folk.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer;1589241]Hello All,

Just thinking about my next FKK adventure. Being summer soon I wondered what your thoughts were on clubs with garden areas, pools etc?.

I would like to get into the true FKK spirit of things and go for some good old balls out fucking in the summer sun.

Cheeky Dancer[/QUOTE]

I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?

[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1589282]I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?[/QUOTE]I would think GT and LR would be kind of perfect, with the football outside in the tents and the inside for normal business. I know Samya has the whole Kino (top floor) for football, but that'll probably mean it's only guys there. PHG has a beamer in the nighcafe, Panthera will proabably have a beamer. I'm pretty sure you can watch it anywhere, but in different clubs there might be different amounts of 'taking over the club'.

[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1589282]I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?[/QUOTE]My friend, at GT the football matches are projected in the dining area tent and not in the "kino", which they are saving for porno.

At Samya, it is shown on the TV in the outdoor grill area, which is also covered.

At Magnum they show it in the penthouse level.

My top choice is GT because the white leather sofas are comfortable and it never gets stuffy. Also the seating is length wise as opposed to Samya where it is hard to get good viewing angle unless you are in front of it.

Magnum is not bad but it can get crowded.

I am planning a five-day NRW trip in early August and planning my club line up. This is my second trip, the first including stops in Samya, Babylon, Bernds, and Oase. During that trip, I found that I am actually more comfortable in larger clubs where attractive girls are allowed to approach and spend some couch time. In the NRW, most clubs seem to require you to pick out a girl and approach her, but if you decide not to take a zimmer with her after approaching her because you find that her personality is not to your liking, it seems very awkward.

Can you recommend an NRW club that has the following characteristics: 1) FKK quality girls, 2) FKK (nude) policy, 3) girls approach guys with a little pre-zimmer couch time, 4) NRW pricing for extras and extended time, 5) high probability of GF6?

Other than Oase (which is 2 hours away and quality has apparently deteriorated), Babylon seemed to be the best match, but it is a smaller club and you have to approach the girls.

[QUOTE=Mambomike;1589534]and extended time, 5) high probability of GF6?

Other than Oase (which is 2 hours away and quality has apparently deteriorated), [/QUOTE]I don't why you seem to believe the quality at Oase has gone down. Your statement is certainly NOT based on direct experience or a recent visit, is it? Because I've just returned from a several days in Frankfurt and I found the quality of the line-ups at World and Sharks definitely displayed deterioration, but the line-ups at Oase (over several days and individual visits spanning about 3 weeks) blew away the competition from the other clubs. Couple that with the superior club atmosphere (compared to Sharks, for example) and one of the top outdoor areas, and the preferred "girls approach guys and engage in couch time" culture at Oase, I found it hard not to keep going back to this club vs the other options in / around town. You really should go and take a fresh look before you decide the line-up is deteriorated based on (sometimes unreliable and possibly biased) 2nd-hand information. I think you will be impressed with the place right now.

NRW clubs have many attractive aspects (like the favourable pricing for Entry, Sessions and Extras) vs Hessen clubs, but as far as the nudity factor, couch time element and the "approach policy" Hessen clubs are generally much better, at least in my experience. So it is a trade off really between certain advantages and disadvantages for either area. Other factors to consider are ease of access and size and variablility of the line-ups and the general service standards offered at these clubs.

Many of us can certainly relate to what you describe as an awkward situation in some "no approach" clubs where you sit on a girl's couch just to have a quick chat to gauge the chemistry or personality, and then you get red flags or something else that makes you loose interest in a girl, but it's tough to back out. I've found this "awkwardness" to be more accute at clubs like ACA and F39 (the old place on the fringe of Bochum). But at GT and LR, I found it less a factor, or in other words: I was able to chat and enjoy some "uncommitted" time with a girl at LR and GT more than at some of the other very strict "no approach" clubs.

But even in Hessen clubs like Sharks, it is tough to get much quality couch time with a girl unless you know eachother from previous sessions. In this particular aspect, Oase seems to work best for me. World second. Much more rare at NRW clubs in my experience.

O

[QUOTE=Ortos;1589554]I don't why you seem to believe the quality at Oase has gone down. Your statement is certainly NOT based on direct experience or a recent visit, is it? Because I've just returned from a several days in Frankfurt and I found the quality of the line-ups at World and Sharks definitely displayed deterioration, but the line-ups at Oase (over several days and individual visits spanning about 3 weeks) blew away the competition from the other clubs. Couple that with the superior club atmosphere (compared to Sharks, for example) and one of the top outdoor areas, and the preferred "girls approach guys and engage in couch time" culture at Oase, I found it hard not to keep going back to this club vs the other options in / around town. You really should go and take a fresh look before you decide the line-up is deteriorated based on (sometimes unreliable and possibly biased) 2nd-hand information. I think you will be impressed with the place right now.

O[/QUOTE]My problem with Oase was a significant lack of daytime talent, there were more girls in the evening but the daytime action was severely lacking. What use is the garden if there aren't any smoking hot naked girls to look at while your relaxing on your lounge chair? There are enough good lookers at Oase to keep one busy at night but not having much of a selection during the day throws off the game plan of guys who like to fuck throughout the entire day and not cram 5 girls into the evening. I do find it interesting that you compared Oase to World and Sharks but not to Mainhattan or Palace (not that I go to Palace anymore). Mainhattan and World might not have the best lineup compared to Oase but I found the talent to be evenly spread throughout the day.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1589611]My problem with Oase was a significant lack of daytime talent, there were more girls in the evening but the daytime action was severely lacking. What use is the garden if there aren't any smoking hot naked girls to look at while your relaxing on your lounge chair? [/QUOTE]As far as Hessen clubs go, the general rule nowadays is that the line-up will be significantly better during evenings / nights than daytime. This may have something to do with less men visiting these clubs before 17.00, whereas just a few years back Oase used to boast a pretty decent and strong (relative to other area clubs) daytime line-up.

Well, I don't know when you last visited Oase during daytime, but my impression from speaking to a number of pretty desirable girls at Oase who were packing up at around 22.00 (because they claimed they'd been working since the morning) was that over the month of June, the daytime line-up at Oase has improved markedly from where it was, say, a month or 6 weeks ago. Maybe your last visit to Oase fell withing the shadow Easter?

Anyway, my main point is that right now, Oase had the best and most extensive line-up or girls (with talent) between the three clubs I chose to visit, W and S being the other two. I've been twice to Mainhatten last year and really never liked the place. (There is an FKK axiom: Some clubs just don't work for certain guys, whilst the same club does work for others. Same with specific girls.) Palace I've pretty much given up on lately, unless I'm desparate, but I never give up on a place for ever, just for a while. I'll probably re-visit Palace some day in the distant future, but certainly not during the warmer months when an outside area is a facility to be used. BTW: To your comment "What's the use of an outside area when there are no smoking hot ladies around," etc: Well in June and July, it stays light outside til after 21.00, and the night shift arrives at 17-19.00. Plus there are other benefits to a club's garden area that don't involve sex or the ladies.

O.

Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer;1589629]Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.[/QUOTE]Just type "monger map germany" into the google search box.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1589617]
Anyway, my main point is that right now, Oase had the best and most extensive line-up or girls (with talent) between the three clubs I chose to visit

O.[/QUOTE]

I was there the first week of May and the last week of May, both saturday visits. The first week of May actually had the better lineup of the two visits. Again, you can't write off Oase but it is sad to see a club with such a huge garden not even bothering to open the outside bar in the spring.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1589689]

Again, you can't write off Oase but it is sad to see a club with such a huge garden not even bothering to open the outside bar in the spring.[/QUOTE]I made several visits during June, from start of month through end. Each visit saw the outside bar up and running. In fact, there were three bars running: the main bar opposite reception; the "new bar" by the pizza oven; and the outside bar. Oase may well be considered a different club than it was in May: some changes took place. I saw many ex-Oase girls who had moved on to other clubs, suddenly were returning to Oase during June. They changed the food policy also. I must say, even though I entered with apprehensive expectations because of negative reports, what I actually saw in Oase was very satisfying: A bit like the good old days.

Oase still remains for me the best club in terms of line-up and other important factors (food being not one of those). It's also one of the best in FKKland (virtually the only big Hessen club) where one can get consistent couch time (and action!). And from what I observed on multiple visits to this club, I was not the only one enjoying this!

O.