Angeles City

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I think we may be talking past each other. Let me try this another way:

1) Yes, you can buy a ticket from Manila to Bangkok in AC, no problem. There are several travel agencies that can help you. I have used both Kokomo's and Action Travel. It will usually take a full day to get it, though, so plan ahead.

2) However, you will not be allowed to fly from Bangkok to Manila (or Clark) in the first place without having a return ticket to Bangkok already (or at least some kind of ticket out of the Philippines).[/QUOTE]Thanks nice and clear. Yep knew about outbound ticket. Always have one.

I only bought at Cebu Pacific Air ticket offices before. Some discount airlines do not allow others to sell tickets on their behalf. Now I know Cebu Pacific do, and in AC. Might use Koko's, nice and handy.

Thanks

Gentlemen,

I would appreciate your experience on this matter. Its my first time living in Asia and I plan on mongering between Xmas and New Years.

How is Angeles during the holidays? I am assuming that there will be less bar girls there because of the holidays but is it 20% less or 60% less?

Also are there alot more mongers there? Just trying to make my plans.

[QUOTE=Philosophery]... Just trying to make my plans.[/QUOTE]


It's business as usual! Simply go and enjoy your time there!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I think we may be talking past each other. Let me try this another way:

1) Yes, you can buy a ticket from Manila to Bangkok in AC, no problem. There are several travel agencies that can help you. I have used both Kokomo's and Action Travel. It will usually take a full day to get it, though, so plan ahead.

2) However, you will not be allowed to fly from Bangkok to Manila (or Clark) in the first place without having a return ticket to Bangkok already (or at least some kind of ticket out of the Philippines).[/QUOTE]Its already long ago I did my last visit to the Phils, so I wasnt sure about this point anymore. Did I got you guys right? I have to show of a return-ticket to be able to enter the country? I'm this kind of guy who don't like to plan to much in advance and I wasnt sure how long I want to stay in AC and Cebu. So I decide only to book a 1-way ticket to stay more flexible. So isn't enough to show them my return ticket from BKK to europe?

Thanks for reply

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]When I went into the casas in Manila I picked out the girl that I wanted and told the papasan. When the girls came to sit with me for the interview process I asked each of them simply, "What do you like to do?" From 3 different girls in 3 different casas I got the same answer, "I don't know." So from then on I thought that these are strictly fucking machines. They serve no other use whatsoever. Hell even an 8 year old can tell you they like skipping rocks, fishing, or eating ice cream.[/QUOTE]
I do not think you understand the depth of the problem. Most of these girls grew up very poor. This is the only reason they do P4P, not to stock up on drugs or they want promiscous lifestyle.
Phi is a male dominated society. You cannot put these girls on par with 8 year old in western countries who are not shy in making their intention known and speaking out. These girls grew up doing whatever the men in their family say without complaining.
Besides when they join the bars, casas etc they are told to be obedient with the customers. What are they going to talk about with a total stranger? Their life story, weather? One thing they know very well is that you picked the girl for sex by paying money. So it is sex you are going to get good or bad. Once they are in the business longer and get more familiar with westerners they tend to open up but it will always be " upto you "
I have seen fresh girls in AC behaving like this with no talk. Once they are there few months they know what they want and demand things.
Give them time.
I believe strongly in treating these young girls lots of compassion and passion.

[QUOTE=Sammon]I do not think you understand the depth of the problem. Most of these girls grew up very poor. This is the only reason they do P4P, not to stock up on drugs or they want promiscous lifestyle.
Phi is a male dominated society. You cannot put these girls on par with 8 year old in western countries who are not shy in making their intention known and speaking out. These girls grew up doing whatever the men in their family say without complaining.
Besides when they join the bars, casas etc they are told to be obedient with the customers. What are they going to talk about with a total stranger? Their life story, weather? One thing they know very well is that you picked the girl for sex by paying money. So it is sex you are going to get good or bad. Once they are in the business longer and get more familiar with westerners they tend to open up but it will always be " upto you "
I have seen fresh girls in AC behaving like this with no talk. Once they are there few months they know what they want and demand things.
Give them time.
I believe strongly in treating these young girls lots of compassion and passion.[/QUOTE]
Sammon's right. When you ask young provincial girls in a casa "What do you like to do?", they might also confuse that with a sexual question. Specifics. In her mind, you are asking what naughty things she likes to do. There is probably zero chance she will answer this question, for several reasons. First, she probably has no favorite naughty thing she likes. She's not that experienced with a loving boyfriend (just customers). Second, even if there is a specific thing she likes, she's too shy to say that out loud. What you will get is either, "I don't know," or, "Up to you sir."

On the other hand, even if you spoke bisayan or tag and COULD communicate well with her, her life experiences are limited, and you have little in common or little to actually talk about. She has plenty to talk about, with her friends (she can't shut up), but not with you or me. You know the old saying: "Never argue with a pig." First, you can't win the argument, and second, it just annoys the pig. Just go put your seed in the girl. That's what you want, and that's what she wants (so she can get paid and be done with you or me).

[QUOTE=Westcoast1] When you ask young provincial girls in a casa "What do you like to do?"[/QUOTE]
Where are these casas?

I am no PhD in social psychology like you folks.. but me thinks these hos were just dumb as a bag of hammers thats all...

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Sammon's right. When you ask young provincial girls in a casa "What do you like to do?", they might also confuse that with a sexual question. Specifics. In her mind, you are asking what naughty things she likes to do. There is probably zero chance she will answer this question, for several reasons. First, she probably has no favorite naughty thing she likes. She's not that experienced with a loving boyfriend (just customers). Second, even if there is a specific thing she likes, she's too shy to say that out loud. What you will get is either, "I don't know," or, "Up to you sir."
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Sammon's right. When you ask young provincial girls in a casa "What do you like to do?", ... answer: "Up to you sir."

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... and this is exactly the right answer, isn't it!? :)

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]When I went into the casas in Manila I picked out the girl that I wanted and told the papasan. When the girls came to sit with me for the interview process I asked each of them simply, "What do you like to do?" From 3 different girls in 3 different casas I got the same answer, "I don't know." So from then on I thought that these are strictly fucking machines. They serve no other use whatsoever. Hell even an 8 year old can tell you they like skipping rocks, fishing, or eating ice cream.[/QUOTE]

Well, I guess it depends on a lot of things. Let's say you go to McDonalds back home, you have a menu, you give the order, you pay, you eat and leave. You don't get a philosophical conversation with the people taking your order. The person flipping the burgers may be doing a college degree, but they aren't getting paid to have a conversation past, 'have a nice day', and 'do you want fries with that?'

If you want a multi-lingual person who is prepared to pretend to care about what it is you want and engage in a discussion on that subject, you have to pay far more than you will in a Casa. If you want them to talk about stuff, offer them enough $$$ and I bet there are plenty who will. Put another way, why should they bother with you other than for the transaction? Do you think they want to talk to you? Truly? They want you in, out, in, out, in, out and then pay - all as quick as possible, and talking to you means that maybe they miss out on the next customer. So, lack of conversation is actually the smart option in that business. Just as minimal talk via scripted pleasantries is part of the business model of McDonalds.

Oh, and Fast Buck Artist, the place is littered with stories of how some of these ho's can make big money by scamming mug punters. On both sides, ho and punter, there are the predatory cats, and the fat 'dumb as a bag of hammers' buffalos. It is nature's way of redistributing wealth and semen. :)

Amjeck your PM box is full. Can't PM you.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Oh, and Fast Buck Artist, the place is littered with stories of how some of these ho's can make big money by scamming mug punters. On both sides, ho and punter, there are the predatory cats, and the fat 'dumb as a bag of hammers' buffalos. It is nature's way of redistributing wealth and semen. :)[/QUOTE]

Oh mate, in my sexperience, most working girls have a brain the size of a peanut and will screw up the most basic tasks such as "Meet me at the Mall ground floor at 9pm" - she'll show up at the wrong mall, wrong floor, 1hour late, with no load in the phone.

So lets not overanalyze this crap.. if it walks like a dumb ho and quacks like a dumb ho, it might be a future science genius in need of an education, but the sad truth is, it's just a stupid ho.

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]So lets not overanalyze this crap.. if it walks like a dumb ho and quacks like a dumb ho, it might be a future science genius in need of an education, but the sad truth is, it's just a stupid ho.[/QUOTE]I agree with what everyone is saying. It's just that I have different criteria for ST and LT. If I'm going for 1 round or a quickie with a SW I could care less if she opens her mouth or what she knows or thinks. But if I am choosing for LT (overnight) GFE then I want my hos to have some type of personality. This stems from mongering in Rio and Pattaya with FL where most of the time the girls won't leave on their own but you have to kick them out or whip out some money so they know it is time to leave (it was the same for me with the FL in AC). When I'm doing the GFE I like to do shit like go to the beach, movies, bowling, sight see (I love using them for tour guides), or whatever. So I want to see if there is any sort of chemistry before I make a commitment to LT. The hole and heartbeat (heartbeat optional) is fine if for just a quick fuck. But for LT I need some type of chemistry; hence the interview process where I am more selective.

Quite the typical self proclaimed international mr wonderful. i would stroke your ego a little but it seems your doing ok.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I agree with what everyone is saying. It's just that I have different criteria for ST and LT. If I'm going for 1 round or a quickie with a SW I could care less if she opens her mouth or what she knows or thinks. But if I am choosing for LT (overnight) GFE then I want my hos to have some type of personality. This stems from mongering in Rio and Pattaya with FL where most of the time the girls won't leave on their own but you have to kick the girls out or pay them so they know it is time to leave (it was the same for me with the FL in AC). When I'm doing the GFE I like to do shit like go to the beach, movies, bowling, sight see (I love using them for tour guides), or whatever. So I want to see if there is any sort of chemistry before I make a commitment to LT. The hole and heartbeat (heartbeat optional) is fine if for just a quick fuck. But for LT I need some type of chemistry; hence the interview process.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Oh mate, in my sexperience, most working girls have a brain the size of a peanut and will screw up the most basic tasks such as "Meet me at the Mall ground floor at 9pm" - she'll show up at the wrong mall, wrong floor, 1hour late, with no load in the phone.

So lets not overanalyze this crap.. if it walks like a dumb ho and quacks like a dumb ho, it might be a future science genius in need of an education, but the sad truth is, it's just a stupid ho.[/QUOTE]

I agree this gfe stuff is just bull shit. These girls are only interested in money and which dumb ass will send them monthly western union, while they pretend to be at home or going to school.
Some girls are more devious or better actress and better earners, but at the end of the day a ***** is a *****.
Why even pretend that a prostitute working Fields is anything but a prostitute.
To say they are small brained would be a compliment.
Have fun enjoy them but keep it in perspective..