Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=Score77; 1249865]It would be nice if you want to talk about Sousa you should do it on the Sousa site.

Lets keep this site on Santo Domingo only.

It would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It would be nice if you want to play moderator of this forum that you learned how to spell the name of said forum. It is SOSUA.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1249952]It would be nice if you want to play moderator of this forum that you learned how to spell the name of said forum. It is SOSUA.[/QUOTE]Oh I thought it was Jasousa forum, I was searching for it but did not find it. So he was intending to say Sosua. He is right, lets talk about Santo Domingo here and about Sosua in the Sosua forum. '

It took me 4. 5 hours to travel from Santo Domingo to Sosua. Sosua has no KFC. Santo Domingo has some.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1249649]. A Haitian massage chica in Sosua could be sucking numerous dicks per day, getting the cum in her mouth (no condom). A pseudo-intellectual like you or Frannie probably doesn't mind kissing and putting your tongue into a haitian massage chica's mouth, while traces of sperm from 3 or more different dicks is still fresh in her mouth.

Casa chicas by virtue that they cost more have less mileage per day, than a chica who is sucking dicks, for around 300 pesos per day.[/QUOTE]As usual Jao your input about Sosua is dated. Maybe you should stick to giving information about places you have been to in the last year or so.

[QUOTE=Score77; 1249865]It would be nice if you want to talk about Sousa you should do it on the Sousa site.

Lets keep this site on Santo Domingo only.

It would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I just finished catching up on the Sosua thread and I now I found the SD is full of
Sosua info. Not too good if I am looking for the lowdown on SD. Jackson must be on vacation.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1249952]It would be nice if you want to play moderator of this forum that you learned how to spell the name of said forum. It is SOSUA.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the typo

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1249998]I just finished catching up on the Sosua thread and I now I found the SD is full of.

Sosua info. Not too good if I am looking for the lowdown on SD. Jackson must be on vacation.[/QUOTE]There are guys who monger in santo domingo and in sosua. This is the Dominican Republic forum, there is overlay between all the threads, including the santo domingo and sosua threads (some guys fly into santo domingo and take a bus to bus to sosua, etc.). I clearly state in my posts that I have Not been to Sosua in years. Frannie, the official spokesperson for Sosua recently posted in the santo domingo thread encouraging a guy to change his plans and head to sosua. Frannie recently called Blackbeard resort a walled in garden. Where were you questioning Frannie's posts, asking him when was the last time he mongered in santo domingo or blackbeard resort or anywhere other than Sosua.

I read all the threads for the DR and I can remember Frannie saying he meets Haitian pros who work in massage parlors in Sosua. I asked Frannie one time what he pays for pros in Sosua and he told me up to 1500 pesos. From reading Frannie's posts seems he is exclusively with Haitian pros in Sosua, and seems he invites them to where he lives and maybe he tries to have a girlfriend experience with them.

I apologize if I insulted anyone who goes to Sosua. Seems you are a member of the no-game posse in Sosua. You can continue to have fun with the hard core and other pros in Sosua. Some women who work the p4p for game in sosua live with chulos (dominican boyfriends). The chulo gets a BBBJCIM before the chica heads off to the work in sosua and the chica is walking the streets of Sosua. 10 minutes after giving that Free BBBJCIM to her chulo dominican or haitian boyfriend. She soon encounters a guy like you, she says she is a campo chica and this is her first time in Sosua, a guy like you would probably believe her and treat her like a girlfriend, deep french kiss (dfk) her and when you encounter a certain smell and taste in her month, you'll say to yourself that she must have had something funky for lunch (DCG, Dominican Chulo Gism or HBG, Haitian Boyfriend Gism).

Contrast this scenario with a casa chica in santo domingo. At some casas in santo domingo, the chicas live on site (no Dominican or Hatian boyfriends getting free sex while the chica lives at the casa). Many chicas who live in the more expensive casas have very few clients, some may go weeks or longer without clients. A freelancer in Sosua can have two or more different male clients per day and then go home and have sex with her haitian or dominican boyfriends.

In 7 or more years mongering in santo domingo, I have paid for casa chicas 3 times. I am not a big customer of casas. Two casas in santo domingo whose owner should be thrown out of the country, girls house and sky house (owned by a cuban guy or a group of cubans). I will not spend a dime in girls house or sky high.

[QUOTE=Score77;1249163]Thanks for these excellant directions to GBP.[/QUOTE]There is a Volvo Car Dealer before Arysmendy Motors (Mercedes car dealer) then the building where GBP is located, when driving east on ave 27 de febrero. On the other side of ave 27 de febrero from GBP there is a BMW Mini Cooper dealer (Magna Mini).

Expensive car dealerships near where GBP is located, it is a safe area in the daytime (GBP opens at 2pm). It is also relatively safe at night (GBP closes at 11pm and is closed on Sundays).

[QUOTE=Llttf;1249992]As usual Jao your input about Sosua is dated. Maybe you should stick to giving information about places you have been to in the last year or so.[/QUOTE]If you could be so kind as to post what info that I posted about Sosua that is outdated, it would be greatly appreciated (no 300 peso haitian massage chicas in Sosua?). But since you only have 85 posts on the ISG, maybe someone like you is too busy to contribute detailed reports and photos of So-Sewer. I have no interest in visiting Sosua to get up-to date info on Sosua.

Some things about Sosua never change. It is a small beach town with relatively few non-pro chicas compared to santo domingo. Classicos is still owned by an Italian guy who probably had an american killed in sosua. A swiss guy was killed by a haitian guy in sosua within the last year and within the last few years there have been other murders of foreigners in and around sosua.

Nothing that anyone has posted on the ISG has convinced me to revisit Sosua. Intelligent Dominicans are not flocking to Sosua, because they know there are better places in the DR. Foreigners who want easy mongering will continue to go the Sosua, but as you know Easy is not always best. Are real estate prices in Sosua and some parts of the north coast being propped up by Russians trying to launder money?

As I have posted before, Santo Domingo has a size and population many times greater than sosua. Santo Domingo has rich to poor people, hard core to non-pro chicas, in amounts 1000 times greater than Sosua, so choice of chicas is greater in santo domingo. Within a few hours drive of santo domingo there is bani (playa palenque) , san cristobal (many attractive chicas) , boca chica (hard core pros and haitian chicas) , Juan Dolio (golf courses, villas and luxury apartments) , san pedro de marcoris (sexy big boned chicas) , Bonao (inland with rivers and good chicas) , la vega (carnaval and light skin women) , moca, jarabacoa, santiago, all within a few hours drive of santo domingo (generally an easy drive on good roads).

Contrast that with sosua which has cabarete, puerto plata and parts of samana with a few hours drive and Santiago (if you don't mind driving on twisty mountain roads).

My choices of chicas and venues (beaches or inland) are greater when I fly into santo domingo. Sosua is a good mongering destination for certain people. Sosua is not a good destination for me for various reasons, one of which is that I don't want to be in close proximity to people like you (I have never met you and have no idea what you look like, the tone of your post, tells me all I want to know).

I will continue to post trip reports with photos of the places I visit in Dominican republic. I don't post much on the Sosua thread, but I did more than ten trips to Sosua so I have some knowledge of Sosua, that might be useful to certain mongers (el neptuno apartments were nice in sosua, tradewinds in sosua were nice, the Palms apartments in Sosua I hated and I asked twice if the Palms changed any of their policies and I never saw a response). I can only hope that mongers like you continue to only go to Sosua and stay out of other parts of the DR. Again I ask you to point out, info that I may have posted about Sosua, that is outdated, thanks.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1249649]Casa chicas by virtue that they cost more have less mileage per day, than a chica who is sucking dicks, for around 300 pesos per day.[/QUOTE]300 pesos per client.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1249726]Do you have any actually evidence that there are Haitian chicas in Sosua sucking dicks and having mutiple men come in their mouth for "around 300 pesos per day", or is this just something that you lie in bed dreaming about? It is a bit worrying, isn't it?[/QUOTE]If I was like you or charles pooter and dreamed of Haitian women, I know for sure I would be man enough to travel to Haiti, were there are the greatest number of Haitian women on the island.

I don't want sex with Haitian women, neither with white women, if that makes me a snob or racist, so be it. France is the country that is generally considered the snob capital of the world, Haiti was a French colony and it is possible that some Haitians have adopted the snob French attitude. The majority of Dominicans, if they lived in the United States would be considered black. For the last ten years (and over 30 trips) , the Dominican republic has been my one and only monger / vacation destination. If I was a snob maybe I would travel to some other location like St. Barts and if I was a racist maybe some other place that had few or no dark skin people. You have accused me of operating a tour business in DR and you have said I am member of the tin foil hat brigade (crazy people) , your fellow Brit Charles Pooter infers I am a racist or a snob. Maybe you and charles pooter are negative because I have an Irish passport and I was born and raised in the boogie down Bronx, New York.

Since you seem to know about Haitians and sosua, maybe you can clarify a few things.

Are there Haitian pros in sosua and if there are, what are their prices. Are there places (salons, massage houses etc.) that employ Haitian women in Sosua, what services do they provide and the prices. If there are Haitian pros in Sosua (freelancers, massage chicas or freelancers who work in massage places or others) , what services do they offer, prices, percentages of Haitians to Dominicans in Sosua, and generally how would you describe the Haitians in Sosua (ie, slim, thick, non-hard core, etc).

From what I have read, seems some Haitians enter the Dominican Republic illegally. Do all Haitian women in Sosua and Puerto Plata have a photo identification card that shows what their age is (Dominicans have a cedula which shows their age). If some Haitian women do not have a photo identification card showing their true age, how can a monger know for sure if the Haitian is age 18 and above.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

I want to thank Jackson for operating this site, which is a great forum to exchange ideas, info, experiences, etc. I have met great guys and lifelong friends on this site.

On each of my last 25 trips or so, I have rented a car in the DR. I have not been involved in any accidents and I have driven to many different areas of the Dominican Republic, in the daytime and at night.

I personally know guys who have been involved in car accidents in the DR, who did not go to jail after the accidents. To keep one ISG member from exploding with anger, let it be known that if you drive a car in the DR and you get into an accident, you might go to jail (In the US, some American drivers involved in some car accidents are thrown into jail after some car accidents).

This past trip I rented a Nissan Tilda (nissan versa in the US) , four door car, good air conditioning, compact disc player, the car had under 1000 miles on the odometer. Alamo and National are owned by the same company. I rented from National this past trip and used the rental counter that said Alamo at the las americas airport in santo domingo (SDQ). I paid $238US for a 7 day rental, which included Third Party Liability insurance for $7US per day and tire, windshield protection for $3. 75US per day. I decline the collision / damage theft protection which costs $19. 50US per day (my mastercard credit card provides collision / damage theft protection and this past trip I purchased the custom luxe travel insurance from CSA for $54US, which includes $50, 000US for rental car damage as well as other coverages for medical, dental, death payouts, etc, [url]http://www.csatravelprotection.com/[/url]).

This past trip I was told that the $19. 50US per day insurance offered by National / Alamo includes the third party liability insurance and the glass, tire protection (if you decline the $19. 50US Alamo insurance, according to the Alamo website you have to take the $7US per day Third Party Liability insurance). My past 20 or so car rentals in the DR, have been with Alamo / National (same cars and same rental counters in the DR). I make the car reservation online at least 24 hours before arrival and print out a copy of the reservation with the price and bring it with me to DR. With Alamo / National the price on the reservation, is the price I paid. Alamo / National Car rental is open 24 hours per day at the las americas airport (SDQ) in santo domingo.

This past trip I used a $30US off coupon code from BJ's travel site; [url]https://www.nationalcar.com/index.do?action=/hotDealsTemplate&msg=ZL_BJVacations_splash&cm_mmc=bjs-_-web_offer-_-mop-_-5027379.[/url] (the codes in this link saved me about $45US on a weekly rental in the DR). I have never been asked for a BJs membership card in the DR at Alamo / National.

For the week that I used the car in the DR, I paid 3166 pesos for gas (about $83US). First two days in DR, I used taxis, because I was drinking alcohol those days, the last five days I drank no alcohol, because I knew I would be driving the car.

Some road photos west of Santo Domingo, highway near Bani and smaller roadway near Azua. Beach is Playa Monte Rio in Azua. Lots of mountains visible, drier climate with some large cactus plants growing, lots of farms growing tomatoes and onions, guys selling jars of cashews at slowdown spots on the road.

I try not to drive at night in the DR. I will not give AMET or Policia Nacional any reason to break my balls while I drive, so I drink zero alcohol the days I will be driving. I have all the rental documents with me in the car, insurance info from alamo (seguros universal in DR) , New York Driver's license and my US passport. This past trip AMET did not bother me. I was asked to stop one time in the afternoon near GBP, by two guys on a motorcycle who I thought were policia nacional, but maybe weren't, no name tag on the outside of their clothes and the guy questioning me would not let me copy his complete name from the identification card I asked to see. I also told those two guys to come with me to the US consulate or the US Embassy, which was close-by and they refused, they wasted less than 10 minutes of my time, no money and in hindsight they may not have been real police. That was the only stop I had this past trip.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1249643]Stereotype all Dominicans and not get called on it by your fellow pseudo-intellectual, charles pooter? You have witnessed and you know how every Dominican thinks? You want people to believe that you are intelligent.

And educated, why not add the word "Some" to the beginning of your post. Some Dominicans are impressed with brand names, just as some people over countries are impressed with brand names. White British people travel to new york to buy name brand clothes (Polo, Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Nike etc, most made in China). I would come across as ignorant (or hateful or racist) if I said all British people are quite easily impressed with mass produced commodities made in China from a common plant called cotton and are willing to take a 7 hour flight to buy these mass produced commodities at a discount.[/QUOTE]Jaosousa has a point."Some" would be a good qualifier but I am certain Frannie did not mean to badmouth the entire race of Dominican either. Speaking of brand loyalty, I do have to state that it is not only the DR folks that are guilty of it. I remember Italians asking me to buy boatloads of swatch watches (and Rayban glasses) when these were fashionable (perhaps they still are) not to speak of replica swiss watches, when I traveled to the Far East. The Chinese drink the XO almost like water with their "Kampai". No swirling the decanter lugubriously. Just a classic ostentatious display of conspicuous consumption! The fake Louis Vuitton bag is a classic in that you are almost expected to use a fake one.

In fact, being from the third world, I would almost defend the D. R folks' habit of brand loyalty. Often times, a multinational like Nestle' may guarantee a quality the local brands would not / cannot which in food may make some difference. Of course the fad element is ubiquitous. I have it at home too. Some years back, my 12 year old wanted an ipod." no. Thank you but an MP3 player just would not do" which I still think it essentially is. Of course, then we read about mad scramble at Walmart or wherever, just to grab the fancy branded gizmo on Black Friday and some, as you may be aware, are willing to lay down their lives for it.

While at it, can we let the animosity of the old countries go dormant? If we continue to pursue this, there is not end to the real or imagined slight. The Serbs would not speak with the people from Sarajevo and the Indians with the Pakistanis. Come on! Besides, I do not think the people here have any commercial interest they might be accused of peddling.

On a personal note, I discovered Bailey's thanks to this board and I really enjoy it, swirled with a couple of ice cubes and a woman in your arms, allowing you to explore her does not hurt either. Eh?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1250316]On a personal note, I discovered Bailey's thanks to this board and I really enjoy it,[/QUOTE]Brugal Cream is a Dominican version of Baileys, probably made from rum and cream, probably much cheaper to buy in the DR than Baileys. Baileys comes in various flavor, hazelnut, caramel and chocolate (if my memory is correct). Ron (rum) Barcelo Gran Platinum (clear rum or what is called white rum) costs $15US at the duty free in the airport in santo domingo for a 750ml bottle. Grey Goose Vodka was about $33US.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1250057]Frannie recently called Blackbeard resort a walled in garden.[/QUOTE]Well so what? Frannie actually said that Blackbeard' resort is a "walled garden", but you have changed the wording to suit your purposes. On the Internet, a walled garden is an environment that controls the user's access to Web content and services. In effect, the walled garden directs the user's navigation within particular areas, to allow access to a selection of material, or prevent access to other material. By analogy Blackbeard's resort, has some of the qualities of a walled garden. The word "paradise" also has in roots in words that mean "walled garden" and the same word is used in connection with the Garden of Eden. So I don't see what is wrong with the analogy.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1250057]. Some women who work the p4p for game in sosua live with chulos (dominican boyfriends). The chulo gets a BBBJCIM before the chica heads off to the work in sosua and the chica is walking the streets of Sosua. 10 minutes after giving that Free BBBJCIM to her chulo dominican or haitian boyfriend. She soon encounters a guy like you, she says she is a campo chica and this is her first time in Sosua, a guy like you would probably believe her and treat her like a girlfriend, deep french kiss (dfk) her and when you encounter a certain smell and taste in her month, you'll say to yourself that she must have had something funky for lunch (DCG, Dominican Chulo Gism or HBG, Haitian Boyfriend Gism).[/QUOTE]You seem to give an awful lot of thought to this topic and relish the details.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1250099]Since you seem to know about Haitians and sosua, maybe you can clarify a few things.

Are there Haitian pros in sosua and if there are, what are their prices. Are there places (salons, massage houses etc.) that employ Haitian women in Sosua, what services do they provide and the prices. If there are Haitian pros in Sosua (freelancers, massage chicas or freelancers who work in massage places or others) , what services do they offer, prices, percentages of Haitians to Dominicans in Sosua, and generally how would you describe the Haitians in Sosua (ie, slim, thick, non-hard core, etc).[/QUOTE]1. Yes. 2. Prices negotiable. 3. Yes. Manicures, pedicures, hair styling, nail jobs, massage. Sexual extras such as masturbation, oral sex, intercourse, or appointments off-site may be negotiated. However this is not really a formal "professional service", but just something that is done to make money for survival. See my post about salons on the Sosua thread. 4. About 20%, at a guess. 5. All types from highly educated to teenage runaways, dark, fair, tall, short, fat, thin. Most speak reasonable Spanish.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1250099]From what I have read, seems some Haitians enter the Dominican Republic illegally. Do all Haitian women in Sosua and Puerto Plata have a photo identification card that shows what their age is (Dominicans have a cedula which shows their age). If some Haitian women do not have a photo identification card showing their true age, how can a monger know for sure if the Haitian is age 18 and above.[/QUOTE]Most of the Haitian girls in Sosua have been there for a while, but there were probably a number of new arrivals after the earthquake two years ago when survivors were often left in a situation where perhaps most of their family or economic supports had been killed. Many of the Haitian chicas in Sosua live in Montellano, and some in Charamicos or Puerto Plata. Some are of mixed Dominican / Haitian descent and have Dominican cedulas. Others have Dominican visas. These visas last for a year and some of them will have expired and not been renewed. To renew they have to go back to Port au Prince or Cap Haitien and pay US$ 200 to renew. Some are parents of children who are have Dominican fathers and / or have registered a willing Dominican as father even if that is not actually true.

Usually the girls have passports as their primary form of identification documents. Passports show the date of birth. If you want to know for sure that a girl is above the age of 18, ask to see her passport.

I know a Haitian girl of 14 years who stays with a kinship group and helps to care for a child. She attends a missionary school, but is basically illiterate. She could easily pass for 20 years of age, and is generally flirtatious and hot-to-trot with boys and men. She says she wants a boyfriend. Her family does not approve due to the certainty that she will quickly get pregnant and be abandoned by the guy. However, the Haitian community is rather close knit, and if she were to appear on the streets of Sosua, other Haitian women would be very quick to make sure that she was removed. Haitianas who are illegal and have no documentation are also at much greater risk of being picked up by the police and removed from Sosua. Hope this helps.