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[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3075252]A nice phone can cost hundreds of dollars, but how much does that get you?[/QUOTE]Those chicks do not know a nice phone from applebutter. What constitutes a nice phone and an expensive one is the processor and the memory. Those chicks only need it to take pictures and they would like it to say iPhone for the prestige. Anything else they do not care and do not know about.
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3075298]Now you're overselling it. Maybe 20 years ago this play might have worked but telling guys that you could just show up in a barrio and hand out cheap handsets and get pussy thrown at you is not true.
Maybe if you were a Colombian who moved back to Medellin it would work a little bit but bringing girls back to your house like that in Colombia? Colombia is actually very family oriented women who engage in sex work do it on the low, You bring more than 5 or 6 different girls to your place a week and people are going to start looking at you strange and assumptions will be made about any woman who even talks to you.
As an expat You can do this but only if you take those girls to short time hotels and you're discrete. And 60 to 100 K while possible is improbable especially in expensive ass Medellin. It's hard to get 100 K deals in Cali now so unless you're talking about drug addicts or Vennies that you see one time at some point a regular is going to look for a raise.
Finally depending on how Gringo a guy looks and their level of Spanish they'the stick out like a sore thumb while living in a sector 4 or 5 barrio isn't a death sentance when the Moto thieves come around they're going to target the gringo especially if he's handing out phones..[/QUOTE]Here is a revised version of your text that cleans up the grammar, adds punctuation for readability, and maintains the exact points you are making about your living situation and community relationships:
I speak Spanish fluently and have lived in this same area for the last eight years. I have actually taken classes for my profession there in Colombia, and I have never had any problems communicating with my neighbors.
For the most part, most of these 18- to 20-year-old girls are home by themselves at some point during the day; their mothers and their mothers' boyfriends go to work. Stopping by to visit them is a piece of cake, especially if you live in the neighborhood. No one is going to stop you from speaking or communicating with them. Since they have been to my home—we have thrown several parties here—they know that I am doing well. They also know that I am stable because I have been here for eight years.
My house is secure; it takes two doors to enter, and I have security cameras all over the premises, including the front, the back, and the front doors. To enter my home, you have to ring a doorbell that calls my phone. Because of this, I do not know why it is out of the question to think that $60,000-$100,000 pesos is below market rate.
I am not the biggest or the scariest guy in the world, but what I can tell you is that in eight years, no one has ever come up to rob, harass, or take anything from me. I own a motorcycle there in Colombia that is registered in my name. I keep it parked at the parking garage, where I pay about $240 a year for parking, so I only have to move it whenever I choose.
The truth is, I am in touch with 150 18- to 20-year-old girls in my neighborhood, many of whom have never had children and many of whom I have known over the last eight years. Me being in communication with them or having a personal conversation with them is nothing out of the ordinary, because I have young people who live in my home and these neighbors frequently visit. Stay Vigilant. PN!
I don't know what era many of you are living in, but I can tell you this: last night, I purchased four triple cheeseburgers and fries from a local restaurant in Medellin. I was able to use my girlfriend's Nequi account to pay for it over the internet. Once I placed the order, the restaurant sent me a bill for 82,000 pesos. In America, just one burger at Five Guys would cost you right around 80,000 pesos. Because of this, I don't know why people are beginning to believe that you can't find girls in these neighborhoods for 60,000 to 100,000 pesos per encounter. I'm telling you now, 100,000 pesos goes a long way when you're living in Medellin. People are choosing to pay what they want to pay—it's their money, and I have no problem with what they spend.
However, I know what I pay. I stay in communication with several of the 18-year-old girls in my neighborhood. I move around, stay unseen, and I'm not a threat or a problem. People have seen me in this same neighborhood for the last eight years, so seeing me around is nothing new. I speak to everyone, and sometimes I sit and have coffee with the locals. Once I'm in an apartment or a home, whatever consenting adults do is our business. I'm in and out without a problem, and I have never paid 250,000 to 400,000 pesos to have an encounter with these young ladies. Stay Vigilant. PN!
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If stort staying or living in Colombia get the nicest place you're willing to pay with around the clock security. Then tip your guards and tell them they should call when the girl is coming up and leaving. Authorize them to take a picture of her cedula (ID Card) No cedula no sex. You'll want that if the girl tries to pass off a fake cedula. I'the take a picture of the cedula and the what's app on the negotiations. Remember a private deal between two adults is totally legal in Colombia. The place should have cameras all around again if scoped you'll need that as evidence.
Understand that in Colombia usually the Judge makes a determination of guilt based on a proponderance of evidence no jury is needed.
Finally you might even want cameras in your house you can do final negotiations with a secret nanny cam in the living room and fuck her in the bedroom. I would not flim the fuck session without consent that is a crime.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Let's speak actual facts. I live in Medellin, and I have a home here that I bought back in 2020 during the COVID era. I also have two brothers-in-law who live with me. Both of them work six days a week; one earns 600,000 pesos a week, and the other earns 525,000 pesos a week. So, when you try to tell me that 100,000 pesos is not a sufficient payment to be with a girl, I just don't understand why not.
My home in Medellin has eight bedrooms and four bathrooms, and I can post my electric bill for the month to prove it. For comparison, my home in America is a three-bedroom, one-bath, and my light bill there is nearly $140 a month with me living entirely by myself. In my Medellin home, there are about eight people living with me right now. There is frequent cooking, air conditioning running, fans blowing, and TVs on everywhere throughout the house. Even with all of that going on, my light bill is never over $250 a month.
So, why would 100,000 pesos not be sufficient payment for a girl if you know her, and she doesn't even have to leave her neighborhood to see you and earn that money? Please make it make sense. Stay Vigilant. PN!
To break up the monotony and give you an idea of just how crazy Medellin can be, I have a situation going on in my neighborhood right now. One of my neighbors is 21, and his girlfriend is 19. She has discovered the power of Parque Lleras and the power of her body. Someone has been paying her very well to see her. She's a pretty girl—very skinny, with a nice chest and a nice rear end.
Ever since she discovered the power of her body and started going to Parque Lleras, her boyfriend beats her every time she comes home. They've been fighting for about the last two to three months. I have informed him that sooner or later, he is going to go to jail for domestic violence because this girl is going to get tired of it. You cannot compete with these foreigners and these American guys who are paying your girlfriend. He is going to have to wait for another seven or eight years, or until she gets older or is no longer desired by these American tourists, because fighting her is not going to resolve the problem. The fact is, when someone is giving her 400,000 to 500,000 pesos, she will never look at him the same way again.
I actually feel horrible for the young man because he just can't compete with these foreigners and their money. LOL. Stay Vigilant. PN!
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3075301]So to clean this up maybe if you had no more than maybe 5 max regulars coming over a few times a week to your residence and if you mongered more taking the extras to a love hotel. 100 K in Medellin? Maybe getting a few desparate girls in Bello or somewhere and you'd have to vet the girls throughly and have to switch them out regularly. You'd also have to incentivize girls with tips to bring their friends to you unless you were stupid enough to try to recruit yourself. Even if you lived in a sector 3 area near a sector 4 area you're not getting girls in your barrio and you're definitely paying about 250 K in Medellin at the low end. Maybe if you were in Armenia 100 K would be fine but there's far less girls available.
I pay around 100 K in Cali and I have to negotiate hard and even then after awhile it creeps up especially when you factor in Transport. Actual single mothers are worst because after awile you start to get the sob stories and if you never contribute well they sell scopamine in kiosks in centro.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.[/QUOTE]Imagine working 12 hours a day for just $31. That is the equivalent of $2.60 an hour, yet people here in Medellin consider that a very good wage. Let that sink in the next time you hand someone 400,000 to 500,000 pesos for sex. Imagine a grown man working 12 hours a day for just 100,000 pesos. Stay Vigilant. PN!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3075303]Those chicks do not know a nice phone from applebutter. What constitutes a nice phone and an expensive one is the processor and the memory. Those chicks only need it to take pictures and they would like it to say iPhone for the prestige. Anything else they do not care and do not know about.[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with your response 100% factual. Stay Vigilant. PN!
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3075298]Now you're overselling it. Maybe 20 years ago this play might have worked but telling guys that you could just show up in a barrio and hand out cheap handsets and get pussy thrown at you is not true.
it would work a little bit but bringing girls back to your house like that in Colombia? ( i go to their house, not bring them to mines!)You bring more than 5 or 6 different girls to your place a week and people are going to start looking at you strange( no one looks at you strange after living in the area for 8 years) and assumptions will be made about any woman who even talks to you.
As an expat… unless you're talking about drug addicts or Vennies( I only Primarily deal with Vennies) that you see one time at some point a regular is going to look for a raise.
Finally depending on how Gringo a guy looks and their level of Spanish ( I speak Spanish Fluently) they'the stick out like a sore thumb..[/QUOTE]I have a few questions. First, who is watching the young teenage girls while their mothers are working in Parque Lleras and Parque Botero? Second, what job does a 25-year-old Venezuelan female who immigrates to Colombia have that allows her to make sufficient money to live a reasonable lifestyle? If a person cannot find any employment other than domestic work—which only pays around 325,000 pesos weekly—what other job will she do to provide enough money to support herself and potentially a young child?
Saying that sex work is a private or hidden entity is absolutely absurd, because it is not. These women know exactly what each of them must do to earn money. I live in the neighborhood with them, so I know who does what, who is home, and at what particular times. I know what is happening because I live in the same community with them. Stay Vigilant. PN!
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3075311]To break up the monotony and give you an idea of just how crazy Medellin can be, I have a situation going on in my neighborhood right now. One of my neighbors is 21, and his girlfriend is 19. She has discovered the power of Parque Lleras and the power of her body. Someone has been paying her very well to see her. She's a pretty girlvery skinny, with a nice chest and a nice rear end.
Ever since she discovered the power of her body and started going to Parque Lleras, her boyfriend beats her every time she comes home. They've been fighting for about the last two to three months. I have informed him that sooner or later, he is going to go to jail for domestic violence because this girl is going to get tired of it. You cannot compete with these foreigners and these American guys who are paying your girlfriend. He is going to have to wait for another seven or eight years, or until she gets older or is no longer desired by these American tourists, because fighting her is not going to resolve the problem. The fact is, when someone is giving her 400,000 to 500,000 pesos, she will never look at him the same way again.
I actually feel horrible for the young man because he just can't compete with these foreigners and their money. LOL. Stay Vigilant. PN![/QUOTE]For those of living stateside (USA) the cost of P4P with civilians can cost $500 and some girls want $1,000. I don't even bother with it. When I am in Medellin I pay between 200 k and 600 k. I can afford to pay more than this easily.
What I hear from the girls is that many guys don't want to pay at all. There's nothing that irritates me more than people with substantial means who are cheap. To pay someone an extra $50 or $100 is not going to put you out.
I was in Tijuana several weeks ago and those club girls charge a mint for "quick" sessions. That appeals to married guys who sneak out every now and then. I personally don't go in the park anymore. It takes a very bold person to meet guys for sex that you don't know. The stories I have that many guys than you think are psychos.
If that's the exposure why on earth would someone sell their bodies for rock bottom prices to please a penny pincher? Would you do the same if you were in their position? Of course not.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3075253]Aranjuez, Candelaria, and Manrique are all good neighborhoods if you mind your business and don't get involved in anyone else's. I've never had a girl from the neighborhood ask me for more than 60,000 to 100,000 pesos. I can go through and see them whenever I want; it's just that I have to make time because my girlfriend keeps an eye on me.
[/QUOTE]I don't dispute your story at all. But the key is you're talking about Aranjuez or Manrique. I'm sure you can find hot 19 year olds that will bone for a modest sum there. But the vast majority of foreign guys that go to Medellin are not going to be comfortable staying in those neighborhoods. Those are 1, 2, at best strata 3 areas of the city. You speak Spanish and are able to blend in in those neighborhoods, but most foreign guys are going to stick out.
I would consider you the exception to the norm. I've met quite a few foreign guys living in Medellin and Cali and most have been the victims of crime. Home break-ins (despite having doorman / security), mugging on the street, etc. I know an American of Puerto Rican background who was killed while staying in MDE.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3075346]There's nothing that irritates me more than people with substantial means who are cheap.[/QUOTE]The worst kind of cheapskate is one with money. Don't even get me started!
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3075346]For those of living stateside (USA) the cost of P4P with civilians can cost $500 and some girls want $1,000. I don't even bother with it. When I am in Medellin I pay between 200 k and 600 k. I can afford to pay more than this easily.
What I hear from the girls is that many guys don't want to pay at all. There's nothing that irritates me more than people with substantial means who are cheap. To pay someone an extra $50 or $100 is not going to put you out.
I was in Tijuana several weeks ago and those club girls charge a mint for "quick" sessions. That appeals to married guys who sneak out every now and then. I personally don't go in the park anymore. It takes a very bold person to meet guys for sex that you don't know. The stories I have that many guys than you think are psychos.
If that's the exposure why on earth would someone sell their bodies for rock bottom prices to please a penny pincher? Would you do the same if you were in their position? Of course not.[/QUOTE]The cheap guys keep the prices down and make you look good. Why are you so irritated about what other people do with their money?
Girls give their bodies out for "free" all the time. So they already do it in "their position".
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3075309]Let's speak actual facts. I live in Medellin, and I have a home here that I bought back in 2020 during the COVID era. I also have two brothers-in-law who live with me. Both of them work six days a week; one earns 600,000 pesos a week, and the other earns 525,000 pesos a week. So, when you try to tell me that 100,000 pesos is not a sufficient payment to be with a girl, I just don't understand why not.
![/QUOTE]Because you can afford to pay more. Its thus your responsibility to help these girls out of poverty.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3075309]Let's speak actual facts. I live in Medellin, and I have a home here that I bought back in 2020 during the COVID era. I also have two brothers-in-law who live with me. Both of them work six days a week; one earns 600,000 pesos a week, and the other earns 525,000 pesos a week. So, when you try to tell me that 100,000 pesos is not a sufficient payment to be with a girl, I just don't understand why not.
My home in Medellin has eight bedrooms and four bathrooms, and I can post my electric bill for the month to prove it. For comparison, my home in America is a three-bedroom, one-bath, and my light bill there is nearly $140 a month with me living entirely by myself. In my Medellin home, there are about eight people living with me right now. There is frequent cooking, air conditioning running, fans blowing, and TVs on everywhere throughout the house. Even with all of that going on, my light bill is never over $250 a month.
So, why would 100,000 pesos not be sufficient payment for a girl if you know her, and she doesn't even have to leave her neighborhood to see you and earn that money? Please make it make sense. Stay Vigilant. PN![/QUOTE]First of all we're here to provide information that will be helpful to other mongers trying to impress random people on the internet is not necessary. On one hand you live in large house but on the other hand you got in trouble trying to give cheap phones to down and out women.
The main thing is No Dar Papaya and if you do live in some large house giving someone a small amount of money is kind of dangerous. I mean why wouldn't some drug you if you're living large while spending little.
But my Opinion has no dominion of what you want to do. Just be safe.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.