Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=nite_runner]Tatsuo..

We just sponsored a family member (brother and his family) and it took approx 18 months.. Lots of phone calls and letter writing... And it does not stop once they arrive stateside... Not just the culture shock however, they will need complete care and feeding for the first two years...[/QUOTE]I know this is my first post but I've been lurking for a while... If you bring her family to the states, you're screwed! Keep them in the phils and just send some money once a month or so... I married a little filipina and she should be here soon. She has mentioned her family coming for a "visit" but I just kinda let it float out there without an answer. I told her its ok if she sends half of her paycheck home every month once she's here and working and she seems ok with that. But I will not let her family come here! I have said in the past that it will be better if we just go visit them every now and then. She seems ok with that too. I've heard alot of horror stories about letting family members come here! You are responsible for them when they get here! I will NOT do that! I've also heard that once they come here, you're loving filipina wife will change as well! I don't know about it first hand but, I don't intend on finding out either!

Goodluck man!

[QUOTE=Marc25]Planning to marry my girl,non pro,,farm ,sending her to nursing school which to my surprise she is excelling and enjoying,,she has 4 brothers and 3 sisters ,none of whom is rich,,also she has 10 nieces and nephews,,anyone with experience ,what do you think the chances are that she will want or be pressured to sponser all her relatives,,i am doing okay but not for 20 people,,there has been no contact to date or interest as none of them are destitute ....[/QUOTE]


First off you (nor can your wife) can not sponser any non immidiate family member( IE, cousins nephews aunts uncles grandparents )unless they are under the age of 18 and you or your misses is the legal guardian of that person or they are invalids. Brothers and Sisters take anywhere from 3-10 years for approval and it has to show that they are a benifit to the US and will not be a burden on the social system. (IE educated or have a sufficent income/savings to support themselves in addition to what you would pledge if they fell on hard times.) 90% of the time the visas are denied. Also your new family members would be uneligable for any state aid benifits for a mimimum of 5 years once they were approved. Parents a bit easier and can take anywhere from 1-3 years depending on thier location. If they are visiting the US and deside to stay if they apply for the visa they can stay while there visa is under review. however this does not give them the right to work and free movemnet out of the US.

Take my advice if you dont want them to come here on a perminate basis then dont even invite them over. I made this mistake with a peruvian wife. Now I have a filipina and there is NO chance that will happen again.

NOTE: waiting times are on average they can and some times do take a bit longer

There is a form of undertaking that they can be made to sign at US visa section where they undertake not to attempt to change status once they get their visitors visa and giving the US the right to immediately cancell their visa and deport them if they attempt to do so.This might go down better with the little woman then saying I WILL NEVER ALLOW YOUR PARENTS TO VISIT US,In Filipino culture that is very cruel and heartless,90% of Filipinos would advice Marry the bastard,get your citizenship then Divorce him.A poll of 6 of my Filipina staff found that cruel and heartless.Much better to say Yes dear,They can come over to visit,but first they have to sign some papers........,you can also secretly fax the US embassy in Manila that they have intentions to change status.They will be denied off course their visas,then you can say,I wanted to have them over,but you know those#@%&%@$ guys in the embassy wouldnt allow them.....

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]There is a form of undertaking that they can be made to sign at US visa section where they undertake not to attempt to change status once they get their visitors visa and giving the US the right to immediately cancell their visa and deport them if they attempt to do so.This might go down better with the little woman then saying I WILL NEVER ALLOW YOUR PARENTS TO VISIT US,In Filipino culture that is very cruel and heartless,90% of Filipinos would advice Marry the bastard,get your citizenship then Divorce him.A poll of 6 of my Filipina staff found that cruel and heartless.Much better to say Yes dear,They can come over to visit,but first they have to sign some papers........,you can also secretly fax the US embassy in Manila that they have intentions to change status.They will be denied off course their visas,then you can say,I wanted to have them over,but you know those#@%&%@$ guys in the embassy wouldnt allow them.....[/QUOTE]

That form you were refering too no longer is available thanks to our supreme court. Since the US is the land of the free people are allowed to APPLY to change thier status any time they like however in only extreme situations do they get approved (ie there is a war or natural disaster ). They wont deport them however You as the american citizen is the sponser not the wife who may only have a 2 year temp resident visa. Best advice DONT sign anything !!!

Also once in the US all immigration matters are no l onger refered to the issuing county but to the district office of INS who may get reference from the originating country.

[QUOTE=Deep Diver]That form you were refering too no longer is available thanks to our supreme court. Since the US is the land of the free people are allowed to APPLY to change thier status any time they like however in only extreme situations do they get approved (ie there is a war or natural disaster ). They wont deport them however You as the american citizen is the sponser not the wife who may only have a 2 year temp resident visa. Best advice DONT sign anything !!!

Also once in the US all immigration matters are no l onger refered to the issuing county but to the district office of INS who may get reference from the originating country.[/QUOTE]Thank you for enlightening me,but again I am not into obtaining anything beyond tourist visas.I learned something new and useful today.Obviously not being American,I do not follow US immigration regulations much.I do some work for Canadian Immigration concerns but thats a different story.No wonder the rate of US visa denials has gone up from 85% to 96% recently.It must be tougher now thatthey can apply to change status without being forced to return to the PI to reapply Thanks again

on another front when did this SC take effect??,I have a natural born american citizen friend living in cebu with his filipina wife and 2 small kids,they basically denied his family a visa to visit the grandparents in the US unless he would sign a paper saying that they swore under oath not to change status when they visited the US and that he would be liable for perjury if he did so and gave the US the right to deport them if he did so.This was to ensure he would not shortcut the waiting period.He refused and the family just ended up going to Singapore and HK with Grandpa and Grandma.I am excited since this SC ruling could help my buddy??

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]on another front when did this SC take effect??,I have a natural born american citizen friend living in cebu with his filipina wife and 2 small kids,they basically denied his family a visa to visit the grandparents in the US unless he would sign a paper saying that they swore under oath not to change status when they visited the US and that he would be liable for perjury if he did so and gave the US the right to deport them if he did so.This was to ensure he would not shortcut the waiting period.He refused and the family just ended up going to Singapore and HK with Grandpa and Grandma.I am excited since this SC ruling could help my buddy??[/QUOTE]
I will find it via theinternet web page since all supreme court rulings are posted in one form or another along with each judges point and PM it to you when I have found it

Ok Guys i just got back from the Philippines, unfortunitly i only spent 4 days in manila and 20 days in cebu ! Did not have much time to go out as i had work and other things to do, but i did find something very intewresting.

I never new exsisted in the philippines, only in thailand !
Found a members only club which had floor show !!!!!!! I was lucky enough to spend the night with the Starlet of the show ! This was before i knew what the show was !!
Before 12 midnight it was just the normal show of girls dancing and taking bra's off etc , then once midnight came it was on for young and old! Listed below !
1/ 2 girls eating each other !! Wow !
2/ Smoking a full ciggarette with their pussy !! Amazing !
3/ A pussy sucking up a full bottle of San migual and then spraying the beer from the pussy of the audience !
4/ The united nations flags being pulled from the pussy !
5/ 3 ice blocks in the pussy then popping out in to a empty jug, folled by putting them in a glass of beer and having an audience member drink the beer!
The list goes on !!

The Starlet did tell me that they rarely ever have a foriegner ( Western ) go there as its private! Entrance cost is 2 beers at 150 pesos if i remeber correctly. Ladies drink are expemsive for westerners, bottle of beer 450 pesos but glass is only 190 pesos for the ladies. Rate girls ok bodies 7 to 8s all of them, faces well its up to each man what he likes, smiles 9s he he. boobies for filipino's 9s as i hate all the small breats girls from the proviences that are 80% in the clubs.

The main difference is that these girls you dont find at the normal clubs that we go to! they all have large tits smallest was 34 b, also they are around 5' 4 tall and taller, and very pale skin. These are not from the proviences thats for sure! Do they bar fine ? i have no idea as i was just out with a friend drinking for the night. But as i have made very good friends with the starlet i can fine out the situation if anyone is interested !!

The clubs name is called CHECK IN !!!
I do have the address as not many taxi drivers no it

[QUOTE=Marc25]Planning to marry my girl,non pro,,farm ,sending her to nursing school which to my surprise she is excelling and enjoying,,she has 4 brothers and 3 sisters ,none of whom is rich,,also she has 10 nieces and nephews,,anyone with experience ,what do you think the chances are that she will want or be pressured to sponser all her relatives,,i am doing okay but not for 20 people,,there has been no contact to date or interest as none of them are destitute ....[/QUOTE]Enjoyed reading all the responses. I married my filipina wife back in 2003 and made sure she was an orphan. Slight joke only. She has been estranged from her mother's side of the family for years and was raised by dad. He had TB when I met him and could see he wasn't going to be in the world long as it was evident he was on his way to congestive heart troubles. Younger brother was a druggie and older brother a bit of a bully to her when young. So guess what she has no interest in anybody coming around for any reason.

Now we just got back from a 15 day trip over there. I spent 3 days in Manila and then 12 days in Angeles partying. She spent 2 days with family (what's left) and came back with some tears in her eyes. Her nephews and nieces were skin and bones since her brother got himself into a motorcycle accident. What else is new? Saw her mother who only complained about her problems but didn't offer a hello or a hug of any kind. That really hurt her but she sucked it up. All that brought her back to me in Angeles as I am not going all the way out to Taytay in Rizal.

After a few days with me she was bored with Angeles as I spend most of my time drinking with Fred and Tony in Roadhouse and Champagne. This time visited school friends (had a better time) and cleaned up the area around her father's grave. Still she was glad to get back home as she found the Philippines too hot, too noisy, too smelly, carzy drivers, and unreliable power. I laughed at that as she lived there for 21 years.

Now at home she mentioned she might like us to get a home over there to use for vacations. I go no home is ever going to be cheaper than a hotel. Two, where will this home be since I spend my time in Angeles and Puerto Galera. So she says a home in a sub-division with maybe a smaller quarters off to the side. Hmmm! Yep, this would be for her brother, sister and law with their 4 children. So I simply say maybe some day after all we have here is secure and paid for so forth and so on. However, there would be definited rules such as not allowed in the main house, no pigs, no chickens, no roosters, no stray animals of any kind and no stray motorcycles. Basically rules like my friends in AC where parents are allowed over for a day only, no nights, and they must call a day or so ahead.

[QUOTE=Marc25]Planning to marry my girl,non pro,,farm ,sending her to nursing school which to my surprise she is excelling and enjoying,,she has 4 brothers and 3 sisters ,none of whom is rich,,also she has 10 nieces and nephews,,anyone with experience ,what do you think the chances are that she will want or be pressured to sponser all her relatives,,i am doing okay but not for 20 people,,there has been no contact to date or interest as none of them are destitute ....[/QUOTE]Hello,

I am a filipina and im just giving my own opinion regarding that. As what my cuzin experienced. She has 3brother and 6sister imagine that. She marry this guy from germany. That man knows everything about my cuzin, she never lie and that's good. They know each other thru chat. My cuzin help her family. But in conclusion she supporting her family financially. They have an agreement between my cuzin and his husband. [You can help and support your family once in a while, but the point of the husband is, there making there own family.] Hes just pointing out the right thing to do. My cuzins is very lucky for having supportived husband. GoodLuck and just have faith that everything will be settled in good conversation.

My opinion here is that you can talk to your fiance, what your plan. You can help her nephew and niece but before doing that decide first for yourself. Both of you will understand each other if you talk sincerely. Its good to talk about it now rather keep it to yourself. Marriage is not just a relationship but for long time period of time. So, its better to talk every single matters that involve your loveones.

To all of you, not all the filipina people wants a rich Expat to marry them. The facts saying that 93% filipina wants a rich man and 7% just want a good companion. Where just family oriented country so you cannot change that. Everybody here's is doing good to help and support there family's being OFW and so for. So hoping that all of you will understand that. In fact, through my own experienced i meet a lot of Expat from good to bad. Yes, i fall inloved twice but i never regret that. The reason why we broke up, we just not suit for each other, but still were good friends.And that's the good thing, no regrets. I loved to be GFE, for a week or a month because i want to know more about them. Its not just for fucking but to have someone who have a good sense of humor and a good companion. Is not the money, but the happiness that you will leave to them. That would be our price. Where not here just to earn, eventhough that was our reason. Where just extending our selves to them who in need of someone they can talk to and laugh with. Thank you.

Dannah Mae

[QUOTE=Dannah Marie]
To all of you, not all the filipina people wants a rich Expat to marry them. The facts saying that 93% filipina wants a rich man and 7% just want a good companion. Dannah Mae[/QUOTE]


Eh? Did you get that one backwards or does the fact that 7% are looking for a good companion and 93% are seeking a rich man prove your point through numbers only. If this is the case I would say that most to all are seeking a rich foreigner to marry and very few care about the relationship.

FF

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Eh? Did you get that one backwards or does the fact that 7% are looking for a good companion and 93% are seeking a rich man prove your point through numbers only. If this is the case I would say that most to all are seeking a rich foreigner to marry and very few care about the relationship.

FF[/QUOTE]
Dont Generalize,I personally know at least 8 upper middle class or higher Filipinas who have turned down rich foriegners.One good friend was on a modeling job in HK when this Arab dude sent her a pair of Diamond earrings worth 30 US$K to make her go out with him,She sent them back.She is a MTV .VJ.Another Female friend who came out in the Philippine Tatler as one of the top 10 most eligebile women in the Philippines.,has turned down rich Japs,Brits,Aussies,Chinese and is sticking with her Pinoy BF.I just booked them at Boracay over the long weekend.Maybe 7% is too high,lets try 2% maybe???

Anyone have any idea or where i would go here in makati to get a local id or drivers license in makati, need to get local rates at my hotel since it saves me one half the regular cost.

[QUOTE=Marc25]Anyone have any idea or where i would go here in makati to get a local id or drivers license in makati, need to get local rates at my hotel since it saves me one half the regular cost.[/QUOTE]You need an Alien certificate of registration to get a local drivers license,You have an ACR,You automatically are a local.But the problem is getting the ACR.The LTO office is located along Taguig Street,Barangay Olympia Makati.Good luck

[QUOTE=Marc25]Planning to marry my girl,non pro,,farm ,sending her to nursing school which to my surprise she is excelling and enjoying,,she has 4 brothers and 3 sisters ,none of whom is rich,,also she has 10 nieces and nephews,,anyone with experience ,what do you think the chances are that she will want or be pressured to sponser all her relatives,,i am doing okay but not for 20 people,,there has been no contact to date or interest as none of them are destitute ....[/QUOTE]

Once married and settled, a Filipina because of her culture will have the urge to act as a 'savior' to her family or relatives who are in need. Although you mentioned that her family or relatives are not destitute, you will really never know where they stand economically until it hits you. You should try to control your would-be wife's urge even as you start the relationship. Negotiate. Explain what would work for both of you and have her agree to it. If it requires that she work for what ever she sends back home then lay it down. Make it certain that your own family comes first before anything else.

Found this on one of the online matchmaking sites.

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