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The dance hall place I previously mentioned is called Bar International. It is directly across the street from Pasaralas. Beers are 1.50 regardless of the night with no price differences for the chicas. Spotless bathrooms, loud, lighted music and TV's for the sports. Yes, there are working girls that do frequent the place and last night about three pro or non-pro chicas were attractive with one being absolutely stunning. Twenty years old with two kids but fit very, very well in her short skirt and revealing top.

I can't quite figure this place out yet. I have actually been rebuffed by two different girls there that sit in the "hoe's seating section". I am not certain, but I believe that some of these girls are actually there looking for a boyfriend of which I do not fit the criteria. Either that, or it is quite possible that some of these chicas are the "playing hard to get hoes". If so, that will be a first for me.

Carlos, maybe you can check it out one night and fill us all in on the details. Either way, a great place to kill a couple hours without the hard sell.

Been there a couple of times with the girls. It did not come across as a SC or anything like that. It looked like a regular local pop for couples. Looked more like a family place.

[QUOTE=Precocious One]The dance hall place I previously mentioned is called Bar International. It is directly across the street from Pasaralas. Beers are 1.50 regardless of the night with no price differences for the chicas. Spotless bathrooms, loud, lighted music and TV's for the sports. Yes, there are working girls that do frequent the place and last night about three pro or non-pro chicas were attractive with one being absolutely stunning. Twenty years old with two kids but fit very, very well in her short skirt and revealing top.

I can't quite figure this place out yet. I have actually been rebuffed by two different girls there that sit in the "hoe's seating section". I am not certain, but I believe that some of these girls are actually there looking for a boyfriend of which I do not fit the criteria. Either that, or it is quite possible that some of these chicas are the "playing hard to get hoes". If so, that will be a first for me.

Carlos, maybe you can check it out one night and fill us all in on the details. Either way, a great place to kill a couple hours without the hard sell.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to say this... no I won't, cause they know am an outsider to their circle.
One of the reasons they won't pay attention to you is that they know you are a stranger to town, and in my case, just by looking at me they can detect that Iam someone from the well off part of the city looking for hit and runs.


[QUOTE=Precocious One]The dance hall place I previously mentioned is called Bar International. It is directly across the street from Pasaralas. Beers are 1.50 regardless of the night with no price differences for the chicas. Spotless bathrooms, loud, lighted music and TV's for the sports. Yes, there are working girls that do frequent the place and last night about three pro or non-pro chicas were attractive with one being absolutely stunning. Twenty years old with two kids but fit very, very well in her short skirt and revealing top.

I can't quite figure this place out yet. I have actually been rebuffed by two different girls there that sit in the "hoe's seating section". I am not certain, but I believe that some of these girls are actually there looking for a boyfriend of which I do not fit the criteria. Either that, or it is quite possible that some of these chicas are the "playing hard to get hoes". If so, that will be a first for me.

Carlos, maybe you can check it out one night and fill us all in on the details. Either way, a great place to kill a couple hours without the hard sell.[/QUOTE]

You haven't been to the Internacional, you've been to La Nacional...


[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Been there a couple of times with the girls. It did not come across as a SC or anything like that. It looked like a regular local pop for couples. Looked more like a family place.[/QUOTE]

I must've been dreaming then when I heard my "P" girl say "International" and the sign on the door said "International" and it was on the same exact spot as described directly across the street from Pasaralas on the same address and entered the same place and left the same place and it still said "International" .... twice.

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]You haven't been to the Internacional, you've been to La Nacional...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]I must've been dreaming then when I heard my "P" girl say "International" and the sign on the door said "International" and it was on the same exact spot as described directly across the street from Pasaralas on the same address and entered the same place and left the same place and it still said "International" .... twice.[/QUOTE]


But, if your "P" girl was going there, that would seem to confirm PO suspicions that what he was seeing there were, uhhh, professionals...was it for the same kind of R & R type of reason...kind of like when the working girls go to taboo to blow off steam? That may be what PO is experiencing. The girls in there are working girls, but off duty.

Like Carlos says, you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl. Perhaps that's why the place is kind of hard to scope out with respect to our kind of potential. Some of the girls are what they appear to be, but not working.

I am going to be visiting the MPs next week. One problem...El Sol, the source for all the exact locations of the MPs, is only pubished a certain day of the week. I think it may be mid-week, and I don't really want to be delayed in visiting the MPs until mid-week. I would like to work them in with my normal routine visiting the clubs.

I want to check out the 6-7 best ones, but not necessarily the most expensive ones. I would expect to find superior quality of selection in the high end ones like Missess. I am interested wih respect to the moderately priced MPs for quality of selection. God knows...the lower end clubs DO have "some" pretty ugly girls...so, if I can find an MP that has superior selection to what is available in the selection of ugly girls in the clubs, superior selection for the price, then I am totally willing to give them another try.

Oh, what the hell...go ahead and advise me the top 4 high end MPs as well, and their locations. Mastermind's report has me intrigued with respect to Misses. I will check out the best of the high end MPs too while I'm at it.

Which are recommended, and can someone supply their exact locations? I don't want to be in MTY and have to wait for El Sol to hit the newstand to begin visiting them. And, secondly, what is the best times of day, evening, or night to visit them? What times will I find the best quality of selection in abundance?

My intentions are legit. I promise to assess them once again with a totally open mind. But, there are literally 50 massage parlors in MTY, and some are quite honestly, based on my prior research, a waste of time with respect to selection. I need some guidance in narrowing my focus so as to be more efficient, and to give them an honest opportunity to redeam their respective reputations with regard to my currently negative perceptions of them as having potential with respect to selection. I am totally open to being convinced.

And, what is possibly even more intriguing to me with respect to my GFE preferences is the possibility of MP "fining" them. I know in the past, that the girls are permitted to leave the MP if you pay their salida. If I find a diamond, or diamonds, in the rough, this strategy could have significant potential. Especially if I get to eventually know a few of them like I know the club girls. Arrangements can usually be made on the side at a reduced rate. Anyway, I want to test the full range of potential within the MPs, and that will be my focus, at least for the first part of the week next week. But, it will all hinge on quality of selection. Personality and charm??? Well, that will be up to them. I promise a full report upon my return if I am given the guidance here first with respect to logistics.

That would be correct. Off duty pro's. Another day in the life of a working girl.

And Wasted is there to live it with them. Lucky me?

This reminds me of an out of this world little coffee shop/bar in Bario Antigo(?) called La Tumba. It is a great place to kick back and listen to a local band of 2 or 3 playing to the pleasure, and requests, of the audience. I want to go back. Great memories with my first Monterrey love.

See some local girls write poems and give them to the leader of the band to read it or the girl would read it herself. I want to go back. Last I was there I took some coaster and postcards for keepsake.

Wasted

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]But, if your "P" girl was going there, that would seem to confirm PO suspicions that what he was seeing there were, uhhh, professionals...was it for the same kind of R & R type of reason...kind of like when the working girls go to taboo to blow off steam? That may be what PO is experiencing. The girls in there are working girls, but off duty.

Like Carlos says, you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl. Perhaps that's why the place is kind of hard to scope out with respect to our kind of potential. Some of the girls are what they appear to be, but not working.[/QUOTE]

I guess Wasted's right, must have been la Internacional.
La Internacional IS a dance hall, not a hook up place, SC nor a *****house.
It is only a plain bar where people go to dance.
Not like Sabino Gordo where the girls are there to hook.
Nothing more.

And it is one place, Wasted, that you are a total fish out of the water.... there are places where we do not belong.
Very difficult to explain, but it is lower class for Monterrey.

And Wasted, don't say that it was OK for you. It might have been OK for you cause you were there with P, but take P out and go alone and you'll be "fish out of the water".



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]But, if your "P" girl was going there, that would seem to confirm PO suspicions that what he was seeing there were, uhhh, professionals...was it for the same kind of R & R type of reason...kind of like when the working girls go to taboo to blow off steam? That may be what PO is experiencing. The girls in there are working girls, but off duty.

Like Carlos says, you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl. Perhaps that's why the place is kind of hard to scope out with respect to our kind of potential. Some of the girls are what they appear to be, but not working.[/QUOTE]

That is the thrill of the experience Carlos.

As we, Mr. "L", myself and 3 girls from el infi, walked in, we definitely got the "Who the hell are these assholes" look from everyone. Well, maybe I was the pimp and Mr. “L” was “who the hell is this stud” but who cares.

But, just like in many other places, we went about our business and enjoyed our 20-minute visit. And by the way, we only went there because "P" loves that place. I just could not resist her ‘please, please, can we go to El Inter for a little bit?” Just like many of our girls. They usually go there in groups. Almost all my regular girls.

I do realize and appreciate your concern and understand how I do not belong. But if I only went to places I did belonged, I would miss out on the few true authentic Monterrey experiences that I will cherish and write about in my "Wasted in Monterrey" book.

And ABSOLUTLY- you will never see me there alone. No way ...

Wasted

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]I guess Wasted's right, must have been la Internacional.
La Internacional IS a dance hall, not a hook up place, SC nor a *****house.
It is only a plain bar where people go to dance.
Nothing more.

And it is one place, Wasted, that you are a total fish out of the water.... there are places where we do not belong.
Very difficult to explain, but it is lower class for Monterrey.[/QUOTE]

Carlos,

Are you insinuating that I may run into physical trouble there? I've been there five or six times and never got that feeling. However, I do make a point of always taking my beer to the bathroom and I never leave it unoccupied. I actually kind of like this place.

And yes, one of the girls straight out told me one hundred. The majority do not show up until 10:30 to 11:00. I left at about 2:30 and the place had about twenty single girls there. In fact, there is a short time hotel conveniently right next door to Bar International. But then again, Pasaralas and I believe Secrets are right across the street. I still believe the majority of the girls there are P4P.

Thank you for reminding me that Prok had written that, and I most definitely will check it. And, of course, there is also the report that Mastermind just posted...I'll refer to that too. And then, there is El Sol, which is hit and miss due to the shear numbers of MPs advertising there...you never really know which of those adds holds a lot of promise.

But, with respect to my asking the intial logistical question, I figured I would demonstrate my open mindedness at asking for information from whomever might wish to contribute, just in order to demonstrate that I am NOT opposed to hearing about the MPs, nor do I want to be accused of promoting the club circuit only...I have taken the criticism to heart. I am in fact open to reading all points of view.

The only issue I took up with Mastermind was the selection comparison, and that is where my skepticism lies. That is going to be the basis of my research. But, I am not opposed to assessing the MP experience as a whole either. But, I am going to focus on the quality of selection issue.

I may be under the mistaken impression that the MP experience is not going to be satisfying to me based on my past experiences. But, that doesn't mean that I fault anyone for enjoying the MPs.

I am sincerely providing an opportunity, for those that may have possibly felt constrained by my former postings about the strip clubs, to insert something on the MPs within the MTY thead. I know guys think I am just baiting them, but I am simply trying to be concilliatory, welcoming a full range of commentary.

I may not have in the past been able to offer recommendations on things that have been beyond my range of routine experience in MTY (MPs), and I apologize, but I can't report on a venue I don't frequent. I do not fault those who wish to use the MPs and like to post their experiences about them.

Porker is one of my best friends from this board, and he used to post a shit load of stuff on the MPs. I have literally traveled the mongering world with Porker. He frequents the MPs in MTY, but not by choice necessarily. Certainly, his habits do not resemble an MP kind of existence when he's in the PI or Indonesia...but, he speaks favorably about the MPs in Monterrey because it's the only food on the buffet due to his circumstances. But, either way, circumstances or not, it's back to the steak thing...like Wasted said.

Where I suspect I will verify my disagreement with Mastermind is over the quality of selection issue, comparing MP selection to strip club selection. But, if I find that is not the case, I will be the first one to say I was WRONG, and apologize to him publicly here in the forum. But, it remains to be determined. However, I am not afraid to tell Mastermind I was dead wrong. What have I go to lose?

I know I am perceived as being disengenuous with respect to my research on the MPs, but Mastermind's post made me stop to think how I had not really visited an MP in a long time. Fact is, I have been contemplating a revist and assessment of them for quite some time, just for a change of pace. But, because you guys do not know me personally, you are assuming I am insincere. I truly am intending to make a non-biased evalutation, and the amigos on here that know me personally, know that I am totally for real.

Look, if I reported back with bias, it doesn't serve me or anyone else. I must admit, that because I enjoy the GFEs more, I am skeptical that I will personally find the MPs to be satisfactory at this point in my life. But, I am open to trying them out again, hoping actually that I do find some alternatives, if not for enjoyment sake then certainly for savings sake.

If I find that I don't like them, or that they turn me off, I will still report it as such, and why. But, on the other hand, if I find that I am satisfied with one or more of those experiences, then I PROMISE to report it truthfully. I am intrinsically skeptical, but open minded, willing to change my mind. The proof is in the pudding.

My amigos all know me well, all telling me that I am going to dislike them,....because they know me. But, all this is subjective. If you like MPs that's fine, and I welcome all of your comments on them.

But, now, especially after having completed my own research, research which I intend to carry our during the course of several subsequent visits, just so I can be certain of the validity of my conclusions, I will have a first hand perspective on the validity of most reports that come in here with respect to the MPs.

Up to now, I can't really refute or confirm my conclusions about selection or anything else because it's all based on past assessments.

So, I apologize to Mastermind for jumping to conclusions about his assessments over the quality of selection...I was premature.

I will make that right next week, and continue the assessment for several subsequent trips, just to be fair in making any future commentary, good or bad.

I do believe the effort to canvas the lower and medium level MPs will be significantly more tiring than sitting in a lower level strip club like El Infinito, where 40-60 girls are sometimes working. One would have to canvas many MPs to find that kind of overall selection. But, I am eating my Wheaties...:-) Popping my Viagra in advance....:-)

[QUOTE=Mill Just]Why not just check the Reports of Distinction thread right here on the ISG? Proko's information on the MP's seems solid.

Somehow, though, I sense a very negative report coming up from you....Kinda like Fox News reporting on the Democratic National Convention....:)[/QUOTE]

If there is any snow balls chance in hell...I will find a way. I am that committed. :-)

Guys, don't the MPs offer a salida fee as well...just wondering what that might be. Anybody know the particulars?

Hey...got a great idea...

Galletas ala MP. No need to play the Cabron, etc...

What do ya' think? :D

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]MJ, how do you come up with this? :) and so true... don't get me started.

I, on the other hand, expect Bob to come back with GFE @ a MTY MP. How much do you ant to bet? ....

Just kidding ... we love you USB.[/QUOTE]

Are there any local MPs nearby (especially Asian)? If so, close to me? I prefer going out rather than any in call. I'll appreciate any input. Thx

PW

Go to the closest Oxxo store and pickup the El Sol Newspaper. It is in stock at Oxxo now, Saturday afternoon, 2pm. The MPs will be listed in abundance there. I just picked mine up in El Centro so I can begin my research.

I don't really know where your hotel is located with respect to El Centro, the area of Madero near Villa Gran, but there are a shit load of MPs in that area for sure. Just hop in a cab, hand him El Sol opened to the MP page, and tell him "el mejor circa de agui,vamos" or "take a cab to the area of Villa Gran and Madero, where there are a wide variety available, many you can walk to. But, I vouch for none. I have no direct recent experience...

Mexican ancestory has a very strong Asian component. I have often thought that many Mexican girls have a decidedly Asian appearance. But, I have yet to see a full blooded Asian in any of the MPs here, but it's been a while since I checked. As for any specializing in Asians, I am not aware of any. Perhaps someone else can contribute their recommendations.

I feel like the MP Blind leading the Blind...

Perhaps you made a wrong turn in Dallas...you would quite possibly be much more satisfied hopping on a plane to LOS or the PI :D (just kidding).

[QUOTE=Pecker Will]Are there any local MPs nearby (especially Asian)? If so, close to me? I prefer going out rather than any in call. I'll appreciate any input. Thx

PW[/QUOTE]