Port-au-Prince

I got to the airport 1. 5 hours late and after a little confusion (my fault as I kept my info from the internet, and there ain't no internet at the airport) BB picked me up and we went to dinner and my brand new squeeze. Guerdine. Back to the mansion after a drive through the trolling zone (girls eveywhere) and after a shower down to bed with G. Fun fun with a sweet young thing. Great bbj etc. Woke up to the most fantastic view of PP bay My God, will my willie hold up. Now I'm off to get a phone, change $. BB is a real story teller and good guide.

[b][color=red]I need to get one thing straight. I do not solicit anything but a great place to stay which you guys go on the hunt. I invite babes to come to the house but in no way are involved with money for sex. In other words. I am not a pimp.
what I do is what any night club on lady's night does and that is make the place appealing to the girls to come. What happens after that is out of my hands[/b][/color]



[QUOTE=Helpmann]I bet you guys are keeping a low profile. Half the world's news media has been focused on the tens of thousands that died in Port-au-Prince. There have to be dozens of journalists who would love to lead the world's headlines with the story [b][color=red]"American Sex Tourists Caught Soliciting the Victims of the Haiti Earthquake." [/b][/color]

Good Luck!
Helpmann :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

there doesn't appear to be much infra-structure for any kind of tourism in haiti (byo tent, food and bicycle), compared with some of its more illustrious caribbean neighbours....resorts, beautiful beaches etc. badbear is filling a large gap.

haitians have perhaps inherited the easy-going, uninhibited open and direct sexual mores from their african and french antecedents. therefore 'sex tourism' might mean absolutely nothing to them, something completely harmless. indeed they might regard it as a benefit, financial and otherwise. as long as it's not internationally unacceptable ****phelia, of course.

they might feel it is much more harmless than the general crime rate for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], female abuse, child abuse etcetc is low. the crime rate in general is low, crimes of violence etc. so a foreigner can feel relatively safe walking/traveling around haiti.

these are all questions really so perhaps someone could enlighten us. i'm guessing there are probably no statistics or suchlike on the above, or generally reported reliable information...newspapers etc.
what is the age of consent? and is this strictly adhered to?
apologies if this has all been covered before.

bythe way, bad bear, i found your website easily by googling 'the mansion haiti'. there doesn't appear to be any restriction on having your own 'mansion' thread, as greg and albert have had for their establishments on the columbian board.

Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html[/url]

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.

This is all BS created by the UN, NGOs, and help groups that want to keep staying here at the tax payer's expense. I walk everywhere with my guests and they can vouch there is no security problem here in Haiti. I feel much safer here than in the Dominican Republic or any city in the USA. The UN, NGO's, and help groups hang out at the beach resorts near my house. Real rough life they are experiencing here. They drive around in their $80, 000 automobiles pissing the Haitian population off. If they were a truly violent people, they would be attacking these people but all they do is complain and live on.


[QUOTE=Red Rex]Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html[/url]

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.[/QUOTE]

if any of you want to discuss how life is in haiti, just pm me and i will give you a detailed description of why i love this country

[quote=red rex]there doesn't appear to be much infra-structure for any kind of tourism in haiti (byo tent, food and bicycle), compared with some of its more illustrious caribbean neighbours....resorts, beautiful beaches etc. badbear is filling a large gap.

[b][color=red]it is the lack of organized tourist mongers that make haiti great. because of this lack of money suckers in the tourism business, it has kept haiti as the last frontier for sex mongers[/b][/color]

haitians have perhaps inherited the easy-going, uninhibited open and direct sexual mores from their african and french antecedents. therefore 'sex tourism' might mean absolutely nothing to them, something completely harmless. indeed they might regard it as a benefit, financial and otherwise. as long as it's not internationally unacceptable ****phelia, of course.

[b][color=red]this is exactly what makes it great. they think no more about having sex than most people think of holding hands or kissing[/b][/color]

they might feel it is much more harmless than the general crime rate for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], female abuse, child abuse etcetc is low. the crime rate in general is low, crimes of violence etc. so a foreigner can feel relatively safe walking/traveling around haiti.

[b][color=red]i have almost been had 3 times in the dr. this has never happened to me in haiti[/b][/color]

these are all questions really so perhaps someone could enlighten us. i'm guessing there are probably no statistics or suchlike on the above, or generally reported reliable information...newspapers etc.
what is the age of consent? and is this strictly adhered to?
apologies if this has all been covered before.

[b][color=red]in haiti, everybody knows what is going on in haiti. if there was all these so called kidnappings going on, i would know about it. i have friends that call me and tell me when anything is going on and mostly there demonstrations against cost of food, fuel shortages, and etc much like there are anywhere in the world when these problems exist[/b][/color].

bythe way, bad bear, i found your website easily by googling 'the mansion haiti'. there doesn't appear to be any restriction on having your own 'mansion' thread, as greg and albert have had for their establishments on the columbian board.[/quote]

BB, please understand that they have to make a living.

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]This is all BS created by the UN, NGOs, and help groups that want to keep staying here at the tax payer's expense. I walk everywhere with my guests and they can vouch there is no security problem here in Haiti. I feel much safer here than in the Dominican Republic or any city in the USA. The UN, NGO's, and help groups hang out at the beach resorts near my house. Real rough life they are experiencing here. They drive around in their $80, 000 automobiles pissing the Haitian population off. If they were a truly violent people, they would be attacking these people but all they do is complain and live on.[/QUOTE]

BootyLover, you also have the picture


[QUOTE=BootyLover]BB, please understand that they have to make a living.[/QUOTE]

if you read all that stuff, you'll never go anywhere. I do admit though that PAP was one of those places that I had severe trepidation about visiting. My first time was by myself, without knowing anyone. I was in the DR and decided that I had to do it, and if I die....I die. Such is fate.

However, having been to Haiti several times now, I can tell you that I feel as safe there as in anywhere in the world. Of course, common sense should prevail there, as in ANY city anywhere.

The Haitian people are very calm, helpful and decent people. I have fallen in love with Haiti and plan to go back often. Their resilience is awe inspiring. If you EVER think your life is tough, go visit Haiti. You'll come back grateful for the life you do have and a newfound respect for the tenacity of the human spirit.

Haiti gets alot of undeserved bad publicity. The Haitian people need, and deserve, a hand up from all of us. The world should be told about the love, the sense of community and pride that they share among themselves and extend to foreigners. The press needs to lay off them.

If the press and foreign governments REALLY want to help Haiti, then help them shed the corrupt politicians and wealthy families who steal everything, and give them a functioning government "of the people, for the people, by the people".

Don't be afraid to visit Haiti. Only a heartless, souless person can visit Haiti and not return a better person for it.

** By the way, I did meet Badbear on my third trip to Haiti and he is the real deal. If you have any trepidation about visiting Haiti the first time, I highly suggest staying with BB.

[QUOTE=Red Rex]Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: [url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html[/url]

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBear2000]...I invite babes to come to the house but in no way are involved with money for sex. In other words. I am not a pimp...[/QUOTE]Now, I really don't trust you.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:

A man or woman who solicits women for sex for money. Since I do not make money from the girls, I guess that means I am not a pimp. To be quite honest with you my friend, since I don't know you I really do not care if you trust me or not. Now, if any of the guys I have met here were to say they did not trust me after their visits, I would really be upset.

Have a nice day!!!!


[QUOTE=Helpmann]Now, I really don't trust you.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

i tried to send this as a text message to amigo of king but since he blocks his test messages, i decided to post it:

i use to work for the sugar company here many years ago and found many good friends here. 10 years ago my mother died of stomach cancer. 9 years ago on the 17th of may i went under the knife of a very good friend and doctor. i was dying of intestinal cancer but was being treated for acid reflux by our wonderful doctors in the u.s. it was not until 2 months later that i knew i had cancer when my ex-wife who is dominican took the body parts my haitian doctor friend had removed from my large and small intestines. my doctor only knew there was something there that should not be there and took everything out that looked bad. thank goodness for that. i owe haiti my life. i am trying to get a plantation going that has been setting there for years. i do not have the money to do it properly. believe me, if i was here to get rich, i would have gone to the beach property that i own in nagua, dominican republic and started a very good money making business there. when i bring these guys here, there are many that come for more reasons that to screw. some are doctors, some are marine biologists, some are agronomists, some are investors. i am trying to do something that will stimulate the economy and help haiti grow its own food and stop depending on the other countries to support them. i know the land here very well and know it will grow anything if it has water. unfortunately at 63 years old it is difficult for me to depend on my ex job abilities since it involved climbing towers, roof tops, and working all day in the hot sun. so i chose something that would be easier, bring income to families that may not eat tonight, and perhaps find the right investor that will back my real desire and that is agriculture. i grew up on a farm so i do know that business.

what i do not understand is :why you would be on this sight unless you are a monger. and if you are a monger why have you decided to go after me. i mean there are real pimps out there like black beards in the dr, or the one in columbia. basically what i do is like a night club that offers lady's nights with free drinks. do you think the owner is a pimp because it is apparent the guys go there to screw these poor innocent girls or am i wrong.

amigo of king, i think you are a fake monger

and there are no girls under 18 allowed at my house



[quote=amigo of king]if you profit by renting your rooms and you invite the woman over knowing the purpose of their visits you are a pimp. since the primary reason for the men renting your rooms is to find prostitutes and you do reap rewards although not directly it does not change the fact that your a pimp. by the the way that is one of the lowest forms of life next to child molesters. and if any of the girls are **** you are also a child molester.[/quote]

[quote=amigo of king]if you profit by renting your rooms and you invite the woman over knowing the purpose of their visits you are a pimp. since the primary reason for the men renting your rooms is to find prostitutes and you do reap rewards although not directly it does not change the fact that your a pimp. by the the way that is one of the lowest forms of life next to child molesters. and if any of the girls are **** you are also a child molester.[/quote]a pimp is a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.

first hand knowledge: i ve visited the mansion and witnessed the full operation for roughly two weeks and in no way is badbear a pimp. lol! rotflmao at the image of bb even attempting! "*****, where's my half of that free bikini and sandwich! "

bb2k is a trustworthy man with one girlfriend who provides clean, reliable accomodations and his knowledge of haiti to us fellow mongerers.

2. additionally while he is out showing you haiti he will translate (for those who do not speak creole or french) your intrest in getting to know ***unknown*** females of your choice by inviting them to the mansion for you or to party in the pool. what happens from that point is between you and (her or them).

3. yes, there are regulars. girls who enjoy the comforts from time to time of the mansion. most are close relatives and friends of his wife while the other girls are (bebacks) invited over by fellow visitors in the past and still enjoy the pool and the parties hosted weekly.

both groups enjoy the beautiful dream mansion to hang out in whenever they desire while living in a practically 3rd world country. the fact that the do meet visiting men is irrelevent when 98% have no fee for their company. these women will barely talk to you as much as look or bother you. if you're interested you better approach and have some game because they will turn you down. and that is only between you and them. not bb2k.

the gifts if a visitor desires to give to any young lady known or unknown ranges from dinner, alchohol, bikinnis a free mansion to crash in overnite or longer, etc. and or various amounts of small cash to do whatever they desire.

i'm far from naive. lets give a good man and great fellow mongerer a break and thank him for helping many of us to get laid safely in a place few of us would have ever visited on our own, and for breathing life into this thread.

I think Amigo of King has a valid point but, by his logic, all the restauranteurs who serve the mongers and their girls, all the taxi drivers they use, the airlines who fly them to Haïti, the DR and other monger destinations, the governments who derive tax income from their expenditure, the churches and charities who ask for, and accept, donations from them, etc, etc, are all pimps.

In the global capitalist system in which we all live it is difficult to single out individuals or entities as being either guilty or blameless whether you are talking about the arms trade, inadequate wage levels, child labor, the sex trade or any other controversial issue.

Also, I would hope we all condemn under-age sex on this site and it is often an indicator of a weak case when politicians, religious bigots, the media, etc, have to introduce it to bolster their arguments against "normal" mongering.

[quote=amigo of king]if you profit by renting your rooms and you invite the woman over knowing the purpose of their visits you are a pimp. since the primary reason for the men renting your rooms is to find prostitutes and you do reap rewards although not directly it does not change the fact that your a pimp. by the the way that is one of the lowest forms of life next to child molesters. and if any of the girls are **** you are also a child molester.[/quote]if you got a grudge, pimping is not the argument to use. neither is child molesting cause neither happens in the mansion.

i did pimp out my "girlfriend" marina to bb one afternoon cause he needed something special. marina gives the best bbbj in the word and she fucks all night long with eyes rolled up inside her head. so she's still around as you can see and seems especially happy so i can't argue with that.