Not the address but the location
[QUOTE=World Travel 69]What is the exact address for Palacetes?
So I can add it to the list.
Thanks[/quote]I do not have the exact address of Palacetes. I had two business cards with the exact address, but I discarded them upon my return. Sorry.
I do have my map of Bogota. I can tell you that Palacetes is on Calle 30 where it dead-ends into Carrera 19. When walking from the Convention Center and Museo Nacionale, it is the last house on the left before the dead-end. If a taxi going west on the Gaitan expressway exits to the north on Carrera 19, he goes two blocks before taking a right on Calle 30 (with Palacetes on the corner right). There is a goon sitting outside the buidling; otherwise the house looks like every other house in the neighborhood, with no sign of prostitution. Actually, it is a very interesting neighborhood, with some colorful and stylish homes. It is fun to walk there during the day, but I would not walk there at night.
A taxi driver showed me where it was.
Clubs and SW in Bogota: 6 days of experience (Nov-Dec.06)
Dear all,
As it happens somehow often to me, my experience is not completely aligned to the majority of reports archived. Therefore, I thought to add my 5 cents of information. Note: I am Italian, I can speak some survival Spanish. This helps a lot in Colombia.
IS BOGOTA DANGEROUS?
Yes, caution must be exercised, but we do not have to be paranoid! I walked alone night and day also in Santa Fe, and nothing happened to me. At night, Av. Caracas is more dangerous than SF, actually, because there is nobody, while in SF there is people around.
Being prudent, while walking at night in SF, means:
- stay with people, if possible
- walk fast
- hide yourself, try to look a local. if you look "gringo", I would avoid to walk there at night without a destination.
Take a taxi, if you go to a club or back to the hotel (but doing so you'll miss SWs).
At daytime, I consider SF really OK. No problems at all.
I would also leave all credit cards and passport in the hotel, just in case of being robbered.
CLUBS
I sampled El Castillo one night. Nothing special, in my opinion. Nice girls, kind and professional doorman, but I was not very excited about what I found. I moved away to another club I think we can have better options.
HIGH-END CLUBS
I think that clubs in the North area (cr.93, ..., 85, etc) are overestimated in reports. Overpriced too.
Converesely, I found a very good club, suggested by two independent taxy drivers, expensive but worth. The name is something like Lorinai, or Lorimai. It is close to the university, cl.49 and cr.13. (pls check may be not exact). All taxi drivers should know it, I think.
Very beautiful and elegant girls, higher prices but really worth, good and clean rooms.
I did not read about it in these reports. It is a pity nobody knows it in this forum! I recommend it.
LOW-END CLUBS
If you like to be brave and have fun in low-end places (like me), then SantaFe is your place.
Plenty of clubs. Note that the *lower average quality* means that you'll find ugly, old girls AND real gems, all mixed together (lower average, higher variance, if you know about statistics).
No foreign tourists here! Spanish is a must.
Part of the fun is hunting, no? you need to explore and dig, then you find gems.
Clubs are not all in one street, so to move around you need to walk in a radius of maybe 400 meters. Therefore, be cautious at night. Look around and walk fast, straight to your destination.
Start from Av. 19, west of Caracas, and move North, up to cl.23,25 (?), where there is El Castillo.
Right time is after 7pm (if you want no people yet, all girls ready and wating for you) until 2am, 3am or so, if you like crowded places.
I sampled many, entering and exiting several times, until I found what I liked. Drinks (and girls) are cheap, however, so bar hopping does not make much damage.
I have a special memory of El Coche Rojo, smallest place where I found only 4 girls working at 7pm, but 2-3 of them were outstanding! Very young and sexy. And cheap! (30k / 20mins).
Actually, I found there the most beautiful girl I ever met in Bogota! Petite morenita. I wonder if she's still there or she moved. She told me she was 19, I wonder if it is true.
I had fun at Paisa, one of the most crowded places (I guess specific for people of Medellin). Many girls, some really beautiful.
I went two times to "Atunes" (this name is wrong, sorry I cannot remember the right word, but it looks like this, written in some hand-written-like characters), at the end of a street with 5-6 other clubs (one is Venus, probably) all close together. The first time, it was good. The second time, a girl tried to robber me ordering a bottle of champaign after having sit to my table (!). I left immediately.
I think girls move a lot around, so I would suggest to enter and exit many clubs, before stopping. In all places, expect to see a wide spectrum of girls types, considering age, size, beauty, etc., changing day by day.
STREET ACTION
At day, you'll find a lot of girls in SantaFe and east of Caracas, cr. 13 south of av.19 (cl 19-17 or so).
Avoid cr.13 north of av.19 (cl 20-21). Ugly and old women.
As for low-end clubs, expect to see ANYTHING. Youngest and oldest, ugly and beautiful, good and bad attitude. Some girls come for one day then disappear.
Gems are rare, but prices are very cheap (even 15k, never pay more than 30k). I found real surprises : - ) I never saw them the next time.
Spanish is a must.
At night, lots of girls as well, but be cautious walking around or simply avoid it.
Note: girls may take you in "hotels" where rooms are frankly horrible, even stinky. Be prepared, or do not go.
BEWARE: lots of trannies!
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Clubs and SW in Bogota: 6 days of experience (Nov-Dec.06) (2)
This report is an add-on to my previous report report hereunder.
I forgot to mention one thing about the club Lorinai.
Actually, you'll find two doors. Many people outside. Many (kind) guys trying to push you inside. They are two competitor clubs!
Lorinai is the one to the right. The taxi driver told me that the one to the left has same quality. I did not try.
SORRY, I dont remember how much is the rate I payed, but I would say something in range 100k-200k (1 hour). Girls are mostly elegant and very beautiful, better than in El Castillo.
Best regards
Abado's -- Second Report on Vicky
I've had a couple of more experiences at Abadesa's and a neighboring joint on the mezzanine of K. 15, cll. 104, including a hot repeat with Bridget and a romp with a buxom brunette from Cali named Ericka, but I decided to take a hike up to Abado’s to see what that was like, especially to see if there was more privacy/security in the massage cubicles. Well, I got my answer.
Per the descriptions in previous posts, the location of Abado’s was non-descript, nothing but the address on the doorway, (K 15, #116-59). I walked up the stairs, looked left and saw a cardboard sign with the number “203” on it. The door was open, and there were a couple of chicas there. The first girl took me into a cubicle and gave me the run-down. I mistakenly thought she was the mama-san; and then asked her to show me the other girls. Vicky came in and introduced herself and, based on the previous poster, decided to give her a try. Pretty, well-made up face, black hair, decent breasts, a bit thicker in the waist than ideal, and shaved kitty. She took off her bra, and began to give me a real massage. Was an interesting conversationalist.
The cubicle was a little bit more secure than Abadesa’s and their neighbors. When she came back to the room to begin the session, Vicky closed the door and put a sawed off broomstick against the sliding door to secure it. The cubicle also had a mirror on the wall above the massage table to add to the experience. One interesting thing was that the couple next door was extremely energetic, and I could feel the whole floor shaking to their rhythm.
Vicky was definitely health-conscious. As the session began, she sprayed alcohol rinse on my hands. After the massage, she started a CBJ that was pretty good, with her on the table between my legs rather than side saddle. She wasn’t enthusiastic about the idea, but I decided to work on her for a while, sucking on her breasts and trying to play with her pussy. She didn’t want me to touch her very vigorously and seemed to endure it rather than enjoy it. When it came time for the main event, she took off the first condom and put on another one that resembled plastic wrap with a rubber string at the base! Vicky said it was because the second condom was more “seguro.” We started FS in missionary, with me on top, which was enjoyable. We then switched to DS, and both Vicky and I watched each other in the mirror until I finished.
After the session, Vicky took her time. She cleaned me up, using more of the alcohol rinse that seems to be standard issue in these places, and even gave me a wet-nap from her bag to clean off some of the oil residue on my back from the massage. We talked more, dressed slowly, and then said goodbye. I’m not sure I’d repeat with her since I had better experiences with Bridget and Ericka.
Interesting side note. As always, better options seem to arise after you’ve made a commitment. When I originally came up the stairs, the suite across from 203 also had its door open, but no one was there, so I went ahead into Abado’s. As I was leaving, I noticed that this neighboring suite now had about four young and hot-looking girls in pink smocks who looked up at me expectantly. Either they were beauty school trainees, or affiliated with Abado’s massage or the competition. May have to check that out on a subsequent visit.
FYI: For "civilian" landmarks, Abado's is about two blocks north of the Dann Carlton Norte hotel, and one block north from a large Carulla grocery store. Abadesa's is kitty corner from the Dann Carlton Hotel.
La wiskeria a.k.a. "lorinai"?
[QUOTE=Cachorro]The correct name is ¨La Forty Nine¨.
I am talking about the doorway on the right as you go to enter. The night I went was Friday, which was supposed to be the best night. There were only two shows in about 2.5 hours I was there, neither was any good. There were some decent looking girls for company, but priced high for Bogota. A group of friends went on another night and had a similar underwhelming experience. Glad you found it good on the night you went.[/QUOTE]You are definitely right. Thank you for correcting my info.
I checked my credit card bill. That place is actually named "La Wiskeria la 49".
I am confused.
TWO taxi drivers told me about that place, 4 weeks one after the other.
In both cases, I understood a name like "lorinai".
My Spanish is not so bad to understand "lorinai" instead of "la 49", so I really do not understand. Maybe a nickname? sorry for having given an incomplete information.
About the experience, I agree that they are priced high. That night, actually, the girl level looked to me pretty high (definitely higher than what I saw in my unique experience in El Castillo).
However, these numbers are too small to be statistically significant: 2 test in Lorinai/Wiskeria and 1 in El Castillo.
Should I give a suggestion to a friend, I would say to go to have a look in several low-level clubs in Santa Fe, before anything. Finding a pearl among dozens of old and sleazy ones on the streets is priceless! It happened to me every time I tried, but I walked around at least 1 hour before being lucky.
Best regards to all.