London

End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?

IMO this is good news for UK punting as this will mean the UK will still get a constant supply of vfm WGs from easter Europe such as PL, CZ, SK, HU, RO. Without them we are relying on the local supplies and as a demand is high, we will be paying a premium price. Anyway, many of them are not staying in the UK permanently, they just come working as a WG for a few months go back home and come again they are running out of cash.

Unlike in Germany, WGs, Prossies have not been regulated in the UK so they have not broken the law working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?

[QUOTE=Adindas;2515394]End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?

IMO this is good news for UK punting as this ..... working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?[/QUOTE]I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.

Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.

Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.

Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2515278]Oh f* So sorry to hear about your experience. Seems poles apart from what it was like for me. One of the aspects I did not appreciate was that she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to leave as soon as the deed was done. I mentioned that in my review. But everything you experienced seems a whole lot worse. Folks deserve to know.

I had met her in my apartment. So not sure if Outcall worked in my favor.

Anyway, long story short, I'm sorry you had such a disgusting experience. And I feel even more like a dick that my review may have been one of the reasons you opted for her. I'll try and delete my post.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]No worries mate, that's part of the game.

That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said. You said it was outcall and at 2 AM in the morning and this girl is a junky, she proposed me coke and I'm pretty sure she is a heavy consumer. Probably that at 2 am with noze full of coke, she was disinhibited and horny and that's why you had a great time. She was in a hurry to leave as her pimp was waiting for her outside in his car or in a cab. Pure speculation of course but my meeting was a 11 pm and incall with pimp hidden in the kitchen so that's a different context. Anyway, by far the worse punt or punt tentative I ever had.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2515456]I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.

Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.

Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.

Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.

Situation like this, you should tell the agency you will call the police, as its a threat to your life.

Not sure you want to call in real, they wouldn't want the police to come into the neighbor hood, which gives more trouble for them than you.

These kinds of behavior are getting to be seen more in London, I did write a report earlier about a girl, who I got introduced via TG.

Safe mongering to all.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515213]Hi guy and Merry Christmas.

Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.

This happened a few days ago.

I'm not British but I have been living in London for a few years now and I offer sometimes myself some good time with an escort.

Having read the feedback below about this girl, I wanted to book her and called the agency. Appointment taken quickly and efficiently for the same day in the evening. Incall meeting. I came at the agreed time at girl's apartment in the neighborhood of bond street tube station.

Nice little flat, the girl open the door and she is not the girl from the photo you see on the website, not at all to say the truth but somewhere sufficiently cute so I decide to stay. She has black hair, not blond, physically she has a sort a GND body, probably on the high end side of the GND spectrum though. She directs me to the bedroom straight when I enter the flat..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515213]....I'm outside, have lost 200 , been threatened by a pimp with a wood stick, I call the agency to complain. The guy from the agency tell me he call me back, he need to talk to the girl. Apparently the girl serves him a very different story saying I have violent and a neighbor came to help her. Anyway, the agency offer me 100 discount for my next meeting with them.

So is my experience with Roberta.

She proposed me coke as well when we were discussing at the beginning of the meeting.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515539]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.[/QUOTE]I understand they use a bogus Estonian or Lithuanian passport to get into UK and there are a lot of rusky hookers in London and elsewhere which is strange as you observe.

Some of them are very good which I used for many months, others are bad ass and had rows with them.

SoCal's not so good. We do have a spa scene, yes. But it's Russian roulette. You never know what you're going to get. You cannot choose ahead of time, most places, and even then the average provider is a 4-5. Rarely do you get an 8. After years and many thousands of dollars I found 2 places that are reliable and solid, and now I wonder if they'll survive covid. Honestly it's just a lot of work. And then you are in the room and always wondering if LE is going to raid. I'm tired of entering establishments having to consider ahead of time what my reason for being there is.

I have indeed been to Tijuana. Many times. I'm a fan. It's not as classy as an FKK or London escort scene. It's trashy and tacky all over. But honestly that's part of the appeal. Sitting in a taco hut after busting a nut thinking "yeah, this is happening right now."

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2514942]

Isn't SoCal good? I thought you guys have it all. Weather and women. You do have a good Spa scene too yea?

And not sure if you mentioned you've been there already. But Tijuana, as much as it may be a trashy, the agencies there seem to be legit? Have you been?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2515759]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.[/QUOTE]This report spooked me too. But don't write London off. It's a good city for the hobby IMHO. I'm personally more of an SA guy, but when I use escorts, it's always outcall. I like being on my turf and I like the thrill of opening the door and seeing the girl that I've never seen, but am about to bang. I have had issues with bait and switch (like all of us), so sometimes I get a good look at the girl while she is on her way to my door (hotel or airbnb). If she is not desirable or too much of a bait and switch, I call a silent audible (cancellation) with no confrontation and move on with my night. Maybe even call another provider for a 2nd attempt.

Before you guys say I'm a bastard for being callous with the WGs, don't think about your fav WG. Instead think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch. The road of insensitivity and deceit is a two way street. My mind state would be unnecessary if the hobby was fair.

Safe mongering.

02.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515539]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.[/QUOTE]Some of them are coming as students. Unlike many Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians many of Russian girls are working as a high-class escorts. They are normally employed iby Bingo Halls, Casinos to attract rich people from Asia, Middle East (the golf) to burn their cash in casinos.

They might also be sponsored by Russians oligarch. Keep in mind there are reasonable numbers of Russians oligarch in London.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2515759]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.[/QUOTE]Well, before March this year I used to fly once to twice a month to Germany, Dusseldorf or Frankfurt, I prefer by far FKKs, they are a legal frame and the bad girls can't go to far with you in being dishonest. I have started to go back to visit escorts in London since beginning of the pandemic but after that experience with Roberta and her pimp, I m done, I will wait Germany to reopen. And by the way the Roberta is the typical girl you find in FKKs, those who always try to fool the customers but, in a club, the loss is limited to 50 euros, you never see an armed pimp behind the door next to the bedroom, you immediately can go for another girl if the one you chose initially does not deliver as promised.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2516387].......... think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch.....[/QUOTE]Have you had many of those in London?

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Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz it’s 103 to 2. Lol.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2516829]Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.[/QUOTE]Boys if one bad report scares you off, fair enough that is what your hand is for. There is always some risk and some fun, so this is not totally unexpected.

Steve is correct you can minimize your chance of things like this. First question why isn't Roberta on Diva? These girls usually are on many escort sites to maximize earnings For example.

Rushana on Diva is Aletta on Babylon.

Stefsia on Diva is Celine on Babylon.

I wonder is Pacifica on Diva the same girl as Roberta on Babylon.

When I made my first trip to London, Steve advised me to try Diva, it is one of the best pieces of advice I have received.

Diva at the bottom of the page has link "Not Recommended Escorts" They post pictures of the girls you should avoid. I know it is a few clicks of work, and you have compare the pictures because the girls change their names on each site but they may be worth it to avoid bad experience.

I have a slightly different take and I like to try out new girls before there are 20 five star reviews, but that means I am open to the odd bad experience.

Even in FKK, my first FKK I sampled 4 girls and 3 of the four provided boring mechanical sex. I was like why is everyone raving about FKK. I just happened to get unlucky and select girls who were not good. Many good experience since then.

While I agree that if a girl has many good reviews, you are likely to enjoy her also. That is not a guarantee.

I did a session with Chiquita and she had only good reviews. Our session was horrible. Did I catch her on a bad day? I doubt it, more then likely it was something about me that made the session bad. There are no guarantees.

Similarly I did a session with Toutsi and it was pretty bad. I gave a 1 star review, since then she has only had 5 star reviews. Maybe she improved.

I have also done sessions with girls with mixed reviews and had a great time. Then I prefer younger and less experienced girls like I had at University than girls with amazing BJ or sex skills. We all like different things.

You did the best thing you can do, you wrote an accurate but bad review. Think about how many guys will not see Roberta because of this. Roberta may read it and change her behavior in the future.

Having a pimp in the next room is really bad, but I went to girls flat one time and she lived with 3 other girls. When she asked me to take a shower I could hear one of her flatmates banging some other guy. It is part of the fun of the adventure.

Good luck, I know if I was in London right now I would have set up multiple girls a day and I would lie on my back and watch them slide up and down my pole.

MM.

P.S.: Steve I love that you took the time to count up the number of positive reviews on your favorite girls.