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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597976]Please educate us how selection by vaccines created a more "deadly" mutation than natural selection.[/QUOTE]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2598197]The rate of side effects from both the adenovirus and mRNA vaccines are dangerously high. Millions are getting sick for a long time.[/QUOTE]Total bullshit as usual.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]That makes no molecular science sense.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:
[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]
First vaccine given December 2020.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]
Chronologically impossible.
Au contraire. They started Oxford University trials way back in June 2020 I think. So these clinical trial could also have caused the UK variant to occur in the first place.
Then someone with the vaccine in England back in July could have transferred his mutated variant which survived his vaccination and so on and so forth until one of the many Indians in England went back to India for a visit.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2598330]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:
[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]
First vaccine given December 2020.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]
Chronologically impossible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2598089]You must be in terrible shape if you improve at 55 after cycling 100 km.[/QUOTE]I started really down for power on Sunday 8 August when I was more than 1 month late, but made a great job to improve, climbing Iseran 2770, Gran San Bernardino 2420 from Aosta, Izoard 2340, Galibier 2620, Agnello 2744 twice, la Bonette 2802. Ask any professional racer or team manager, when I didn't see you nor any of my other followers, and now I m ready to return, but to perform, not making curves like Italiens, but facing straight the steep, to Zoncolan, Mortirolo, Stelvio, Gavia if I have time and I do' t forget Loze. My passion holidays are not finished, still 11 climbings to enjoy.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]That is totally wrong. It has nothing to do with vaccination status and the UK. The delta variant is a mutation that originated in India, almost certainly amongst the unvaccinated. It spread rapidly and as the UK has a large Indian / Pakistani population it was inevitable to be the first European country where it spread to.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2598285]Total bullshit as usual.[/QUOTE]Look at the covid vaccines:
[URL]https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html[/URL]#.
From what I know and hear from people working closely on it, only about a 3rd gets reported in to these statistics, and only the most severe effects. Men also underreport heavily, and there is usually a much longer lag in the reports made by men than by women. Even still, the number of serious side effects in Europe alone (10% of the global population), while the vaccination rate in Europe for 2 dosages (when most side effects appear) is less than 50% continent wide, is already at close to 1 million in these statistics!
Add in the lag in reporting.
Multiple it by 10 (global pop).
And multiple it by 3 due to malreportings.
Sum: Globally we would talk about over 50 million serious side effects!
Also notice the extremely high percentage rate of the cases reported in, being from healthcare workers!
This implies that they report in their own side effects, but the massive underreporting is among the non-healthcare workers.
So the real numbers of serious side effects are much much larger!
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2598330]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:
[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]
First vaccine given December 2020.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]
Chronologically impossible.[/QUOTE]DrPoon you have been pooned.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]Probably you are not vaccinated, when I was young many years back we learned that vaccines safe life and in 1965 it was impossible to go to school without being vaccinated about many different disease, after at the army it was also obligatory, today so many people deny the reality.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.
So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]Your source please.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/29/world/europe/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html[/URL]
Finally.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/texas-caleb-wallace-anti-mask-protests-freedom-dies-covid-19[/URL]
Too bad for his child to come. Looks like ivermectin doesn't work so well (along with goat testicle powder, full moon spider sperm, and so on).
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2598647][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/29/world/europe/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html[/URL]
Finally.[/QUOTE]We should let the Europeans into the USA ASAP, although for the life of me I can't figure out why a European would want to visit here?! Everything is so much better in European countries. Other than guns but I think Europeans can just go to Switzerland for the shooting ranges or maybe Israel.