East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1484612]You're right, the barber pole (spinny thing) isn't always present at a BBS.

Some BBS and MP on Yinshan Road are obscured by foliage, so if you're re-coning from the opposite side of the street you may not see them.

To go to Jintai Road, when you're walking to Yinshan Road, don't turn, keep walking straight on Zaozhuang Road and make the next right onto Jintai Road, the BBS will (mostly) be on your left). Those BBS are VERY visible. If you want a true down market experience, continue on Jintai and make a right one block before Jinqiao Road (sorry, I don't know the street name, but the location is very clear on Google Map). Work your way back in the neighborhood and you will see many BBS. It's easier to do at night as the lights (and the girls saying 'hello' and knocking on the windows) will guide you to the BBS's.

Remember to walk in like you own the joint and don't be afraid to walk out if the price doesn't suit you. Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Went out a bit later tonight, about 9ish, and spent 20 minutes trying to find somewhere to take a leak, I used this time to take a look down the road you mentioned, one block away from Jinqiao Road, and I couldn't find anything. The street had a big lit up red arch over it, and had a Garden something hotel on it (can't remember the exact name, was about half way down on the left). I got to the end of the street without even a hint of a BBS, and had the option of going left or right, I ventured right for a bit, but the street looked pretty bare, no lights or anything, so I turned back. By this time I'm busting to take leak so I walked back to the other end of Jintai Road, and found somewhere. I then went back to the middle of the street on the Southern end and checked out the girls in the two BBSs I talked about earlier. The one on the right was still a winner for me, so I walked up (even walked in at the same time as someone else, oh how my balls have grown). Was much less awkward this time, but I didn't get the choice of picking, as the girl from last night stood up immediately and pointed to the back door. I had a brief look around before deciding it wasn't worth the hassle of trying to sort out another girl (the other ones were on par if not worse than mine. The 10er wasn't there.). I followed her into a secret-ish room behind a book case on the left side of the hall, the other ones on the right of the hall all had their doors closed, so I assume they were in use. A girl was sleeping on the bed in the room we went into, so I think it's their "break" room. The girl gets up pretty groggily and leaves after putting her shoes on (not before I got a glimpse under her skirt though.) , and I start getting undressed immediately. No BJ this time, covered or not, which was a bit disheartening, though I did get to pay after this time. 300 as last time. On a brighter note I made her do some work this time, she rode me for about 10 minutes near the end before I popped.

Now that I've been before, the surreal-ness of it passed and I was able to take in a few more things. First of all the moaning from the girl was a little bit superficial, she was moaning while giving me a HJ at the start, which I didn't really notice last time. She also moaned pretty much the whole time, which was quite a turn on at first, but got a little bit boring near the end.

About half way through while doing missionary, I went to rub her clit, and was shooed away by her hand, so I can see what was said earlier is quite true, the places on Jintai Road are all business.

Ideally I'd like to find a different place next time, the benefits of going back to the same place are good, there's no real awkwardness when I walk in, I was muuuuch more confident this time, and I don't really need to negotiate price (I'd prefer to pay 200, but for the sake of not having to stand in the first room for long periods. The extra 100 is worth it). The cons are I think it's going to be much harder to get a different girl there, as the one I've been with twice seems to think I'm hers, unless it was just coincidental and it was her turn at the plate. Also I'd like a bit more freedom, not being able to touch anything was a bit of a disappointment, her tits seemed within bounds, but anything below was made very clear was a no-go. That and I don't like my chances of getting a BBBJ, or anal, which I'd like to try (maybe the anal at a BBS is not going to happen anywhere, but it won't stop me from trying).

All in all a successful night, I think I enjoyed it more this time as the nerves were gone, but as above it made me more aware of things that I didn't like.

On a side note, where's the closest (decent) sauna near Jinqiao? All the ones posted here seem to be across the river, and I've quite taken to walking places, as I get a bit of exercise while I'm at it, which is a win win.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth;1484937]On a side note, where's the closest (decent) sauna near Jinqiao? All the ones posted here seem to be across the river, and I've quite taken to walking places, as I get a bit of exercise while I'm at it, which is a win win.[/QUOTE]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484937].

Ideally I'd like to find a different place next time, the benefits of going back to the same place are good, there's no real awkwardness when I walk in, I was muuuuch more confident this time, and I don't really need to negotiate price (I'd prefer to pay 200, but for the sake of not having to stand in the first room for long periods. The extra 100 is worth it). The cons are I think it's going to be much harder to get a different girl there, as the one I've been with twice seems to think I'm hers, unless it was just coincidental and it was her turn at the plate. Also I'd like a bit more freedom, not being able to touch anything was a bit of a disappointment, her tits seemed within bounds, but anything below was made very clear was a no-go. That and I don't like my chances of getting a BBBJ, or anal, which I'd like to try (maybe the anal at a BBS is not going to happen anywhere, but it won't stop me from trying).[/QUOTE]I am glad you enjoyed yourself. Unless she was spectacular (and it does not sound she was) move on. Tell her no, pick another one next time or go elsewhere. It will put her in her place, maybe she will try harder for your next time.

It's China, too many girls, too little time. Take my word on it. I learned this the hard way.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Dream Spa is located on Yanggao Nan Lu No. 889, Pudong District, inside the Sofitel Jin Jiang Oriental.

Has anybody gone to the massage place on Wuning Street near where it intersects Wanghangdu Street. In the alley off Wuning street. Same owner as 1808 Beijing Street in Jingan. Was wondering if you have any favorites or if any of the girls from Beijing street work there too.

Beijing4987

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Hi Mike,

Yes there is a spa service here, but I doubt it will offer what I'm after, and I've seen no reports anywhere that it does, I'll have a look at the Ramada though.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'm quite sure I'd be lost without it. Doubt I'll get up to much tonight, but might try Dream Spa this weekend if I get time. When's the best time to go?

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1485238]Hi Mike, yes there is a spa service here, but I doubt it will offer what I'm after, and I've seen no reports anywhere that it does, I'll have a look at the Ramada though.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'm quite sure I'd be lost without it. Doubt I'll get up to much tonight, but might try Dream Spa this weekend if I get time. When's the best time to go?[/QUOTE]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

I've been to Dream Spa only in the early evenings (around 1900). At the time (a few years ago) there were 2 levels of service, the standard drill (locker room, shower, sauna, etc.) to the left of the desk. And deluxe service (everything is in the room) to the right. If I remember correctly maybe a RMB500 delta between the two. This was before Jin Jiang Group took over. Reference my previous review.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1485368]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

A few years ago I was offered full service in the Ramada spa, but the price was crazy. There were also services on offer through the hairdressing salon on the first floor, although that might have been a freelance enterprise. I saw independent girls in the lobby and bar on various occasions, and elevator encounters are well reported. Most of the massage places around the corner on Hongfeng Road offer extra services, but I stopped going when the demands for "tip" started at 500 or even 700 rmb for a happy ending. Sorry girls, it's nice but not that nice! I've speculated that there must be something interesting going on in Shanana, judging by the number of cars parked outside every evening, but I've never heard anything to confirm that. The one time I tried it there was no suggestion of special services, just a very expensive foot massage!

As Mike says, the BBS on Yinshan Road are behind a small triangular group of trees. On the north side close to the intersection with Jinkou Road. Just look for the bright LED signs. There are some MPs at the east end of Yinshan Road at the corner of Zaozhuang Road. I've only tried one, it was the fairly standard grubby room and happy ending, prices lower than Jinqiao of course.

I've noticed a number of massage places opening recently on the south side of Jintai Road, have no idea what services they offer.

Occasional lurker, first time poster, etc. Etc.

Reading along it seems like it's mostly sauna / bbs reports, which doesn't help too much for people looking for MPs. Yeah, they're everywhere in the city, but I actually like the (real) massage and some other aspects, eg. Ability to shower in private. So if I post as I go along, maybe it helps someone. Or else you can just read for kicks about a newbie's journey with all the highs, lows, mistakes, and successes. Insight from the more seasoned would help, since I really don't have much of a clue what I'm doing.

Gudao Health Spa, Changning.

Found this place via HappyMassage, specifically looking for a place that does traditional massage should things go wrong and I want to audible out at the last second. Can't really speak much of the local language (much better at listening though) , I walk and try to ask if they speak Japanese. Kind of dumbfounded silence, the guy at at the desk just motions to follow and goes upstairs. There were no girls in the lobby like surrounding MPs so I thought it really might be legit, except the only sign inside showed prices of 248 and 298, and the rooms suggested otherwise. If they used to do normal massage, they must've stopped. Already in over my head.

The ML comes in and is totally dressed in the BBS getup. Fairly tall already plus heels, a good 8-9 that was a surprise. Directed me to shower and didn't look away, which made it kind of hard to discreetly conceal my excitement; the awkwardness of trying to undress led her to ask if this was my first time. This kind of place. Yes, and I unthinkingly said as much. Mistake number one. As I was showering, she was replaced by another girl, still nice but definitely less so, shorter and more like a 7. Best guess in retrospect, they stuck the new girl on me, figuring I wouldn't know the difference (kinda true).

A teasing massage more than anything else, boo, plus some kind of gel pack thing rubbed all over the back and down. The massage under the blue shorts was nice, and had me pretty on edge by the time she tapped to indicate flipping over. Here's where I hypothesized she was the new girl. I was trying to hold back and kind of mini-popped, and she didn't notice in the slightest. I managed to stand firm throughout, and she continued as if nothing happened. In fact, after it taking longer than she expected, she even amusingly said I must be very good at making love, hah. Never managed to get to a second pop, her arm got too tired (new girl much?) and when I declined to add time she at least was nice enough to help me dress. Was staring a little too much at my midsection though, she seemed impressed. It was either that I had defined, if small abs, or a high, thin, girly waist. Sadly, I think it was the latter. Didn't ask for tips and walked down arm in arm, and paid the 248. At the least the desk guy tried to manage 'Sayonara' at the end. Nice touch.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1485368]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

A few years ago I was offered full service in the Ramada spa, but the price was crazy. There were also services on offer through the hairdressing salon on the first floor, although that might have been a freelance enterprise. I saw independent girls in the lobby and bar on various occasions, and elevator encounters are well reported. Most of the massage places around the corner on Hongfeng Road offer extra services, but I stopped going when the demands for "tip" started at 500 or even 700 rmb for a happy ending. Sorry girls, it's nice but not that nice! I've speculated that there must be something interesting going on in Shanana, judging by the number of cars parked outside every evening, but I've never heard anything to confirm that. The one time I tried it there was no suggestion of special services, just a very expensive foot massage!

As Mike says, the BBS on Yinshan Road are behind a small triangular group of trees. On the north side close to the intersection with Jinkou Road. Just look for the bright LED signs. There are some MPs at the east end of Yinshan Road at the corner of Zaozhuang Road. I've only tried one, it was the fairly standard grubby room and happy ending, prices lower than Jinqiao of course.

I've noticed a number of massage places opening recently on the south side of Jintai Road, have no idea what services they offer.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ringer,

This was enough to help me find it tonight. There's about 4 BBSs there, I picked one of the more dodgy looking ones as there was a girl in there that caught my eye, it didn't look that great, the backroom looked like it was just a curtain, but as it turned out there was a second floor.

Anyway, on to the report, for some reason I like writing stuff down when I get back to the hotel, and hopefully this will help someone else.

I think I struck gold tonight. I did almost get spooked and walk home, as LE appeared to be patrolling the street, every 20 mins or so a cop car with its lights on would drive slowly down the street, most likely a coincidence (I only saw two before going inside) , but was enough to give me second thoughts. Anyway, with my balls firmly between my legs, and not left back at the hotel, I made my way over to the one Id chosen, there was a girl in the door that I saw trying to entice other guys in, and was my pick, so I was happy when I walked past that to beckoned me inside (not that I would've stopped if she hadn't). She quickly ushers me behind the curtain, and confirms that I want sex, by making a gesture with her hands (making a circle with her index finger, then sticking her other index finger in and out of it, which was fucking hilarious). Anyway, I confirm what I'm after, and she starts the negotiation at 400, I counter with 200, she counters with 300, I counter with 200, and she agrees and we go upstairs. The staircase leading upstairs was super skinny, not sure if this is the norm, but we get to the top and there's a bed right infront of us, which we don't take, there's another bed next to it, separated by a curtain (so much for privacy huh?) , but we skip that one also. She points to a square "hole" in the wall, which is probably 1mx1m in dimension, then she gets on her knees and opens the other end of the hole, as it turns out there's a hidden room back there, I'm grinning ear to ear by this point. I follow her into the hole and there's a smallish room, with a double bed, that was ridiculously hard (I found out later that it didn't actually have a mattress on it. Just some wood covered in a few thick blankets) , and tissues, tissues fucking everywhere (packaged ones of course) , there would have been probably 200 or so packages of tissues, the kind you'd find inside a tissue box, this got a little chuckle out of me, which was met by raised eye brows from her. Anyway, I get undressed, and she takes off her panties, she indicates for me to lie down on the "bed", which I do. I get a BBBJ (albeit short) , then she sticks on a condom and rides me for a bit (read 1-2 minutes) , wasn't too happy about this, but from reading / my very limited experience this seems like the norm. I suppose the fact they have to do this all night makes sense. She then hops off and jumps on her back, and points to her ass, and raises 5 fingers (I'm thinking fuuuuuck yea by this point) , we negotiate back and forth over a few seconds, and agree to 300. From there it was all pretty normal, I was allowed to alternate between both holes at my whim, which was nothing shy of magical. After about 20-25 minutes, I can tell she's starting to want me to finish, as we're switching positions she grabs the aircon remote, and turns it up to 30, which I found hilarious, started laughing for 1-2 seconds after we'd started again, which I don't think she liked. I finished and she turns the aircon down, and makes me sit underneath the fan (as I'm sweating by this point). I get dressed, pay her and leave. So in short, I got everything I wanted.

I walk outside with a huge grin on my face, only to see a cop on the road in the middle of doing a U-turn (with lights on) , the shop is behind a mini-park kind of thing, so I'm praying he hasn't seen me. I put one of the larger trees between me and him, and wait for a little bit, but thankfully once he'd finished his U-turn (which should have been a 3pt turn, and ending up being what felt like a 9. Terrible driver) he drove off down the street. I walked after him, and he turned off onto Jinkou Road, and I was home free.

Now the bad (maybe?) , which probably should have bothered me more, and didn't. She kept spitting in the corner of the room, initially after the BJ, and then every 4-5 minutes or so, she probably would have done it about 5-6 times during the session. The BlueTeeth that went out to his first BBS earlier this week would have probably been disgusted by this, but I didn't really mind, it kinda just added to the whole thing.

One last thing I was thinking of on my walk back, should I be trusting their condoms? They don't seem to offer me the chance to use my own, but I'm not keen on catching anything while I'm over here. Despite the places not being the nicest in the world, the girls I've been with have all been quite clean (other than spitting in the corner. LOL) , using lots of wet wipes and tissues etc, so I think that puts me into a false sense of security a little bit. Should I be insisting on using my own? What's the norm here?

I'm sure I'll have another report tomorrow night, not sure where I'll go this time, most likely I'll just go for a walk and see where I end up.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484937]Went out a bit later tonight, about 9ish, and spent 20 minutes trying to find somewhere to take a leak, I used this time to take a look down the road you mentioned, one block away from Jinqiao Road, and I couldn't find anything. The street had a big lit up red arch over it, and had a Garden something hotel on it (can't remember the exact name, was about half way down on the left). I got to the end of the street without even a hint of a BBS, and had the option of going left or right, I ventured right for a bit, but the street looked pretty bare, no lights or anything, so I turned back.

You should have turned left at the end. As you reach the area where building renovation is going on you'll see a few shop fronts with ladies trying to attract your attention. Not as obvious as the ones on Jintai Road. No pink lights, no ball gowns. Just some women in street clothes sitting on some chairs in the doorway. Doesn't look like an upmarket experience.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Longhao Spa on Du Juan Road is a similar distance from your hotel, it's a bit run down but generally ok. There are several BBS nearby on Yinghua Road if you want to make a night of it! The famous Bodi spa is also quite close to there, on Long Yang Road. You'd really need to take a taxi there as it's on a major road, not easy to walk to or from.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1485746]Thanks Ringer,

One last thing I was thinking of on my walk back, should I be trusting their condoms? They don't seem to offer me the chance to use my own, but I'm not keen on catching anything while I'm over here. Despite the places not being the nicest in the world, the girls I've been with have all been quite clean (other than spitting in the corner. LOL) , using lots of wet wipes and tissues etc, so I think that puts me into a false sense of security a little bit. Should I be insisting on using my own? What's the norm here?

I'm sure I'll have another report tomorrow night, not sure where I'll go this time, most likely I'll just go for a walk and see where I end up.[/QUOTE]Blue teeth, good report, keep up the good work.

You're worried about their condoms and getting something. And you got a BBBJ?

Each to his own about taking risk and catching something, but. I think you better look up ways to catch STDs again.

Stay safe,

Sam

[quote=samcan; 1486074]blue teeth, good report, keep up the good work.

you're worried about their condoms and getting something. and you got a bbbj?

each to his own about taking risk and catching something, but. i think you better look up ways to catch stds again.

stay safe,

sam[/quote]tried this place three times over a few weeks, in large because the quoted poster saying it was one of his favorites. read around that there were at least 2-3 numbers that people would recommend. 16, 19, and i think another one, so that figures to be decent odds of success, right? sam mostly has described everything pretty thoroughly, so just mentioning a couple other points here. the shop immediately to the right seems to be pretty busy and will easily have a group of people sitting outside, so wait for it to get dark and people to disperse if you don't want an audience for your walk of shame in and out. there's a fair number of rooms, but i think they're not in the best condition. they usually send you to the best of the rooms available, and i noticed some peeling wallpaper and under-maintained showers, made a little less noticeable by really dim, very red light.

first trip, tried to communicate as much as possible and failed pretty miserably, probably scaring the guy at the front desk a little. led me to room and disappeared immediately, sending a lady from upstairs down. over 30, a 6-7, might not be ideal but whatever. did a fair imitation of traditional massage, basically everything except lacking force, and a decent down-under massage as well. if any big complaint so far, it took a long time walking to get supplies, so you're just laying there for some 5 minutes at a time. happened twice, once when she got the disposable gel packs, and another to get towels to wipe off the oil. asked if 280 was okay on the flip, and agreed without really knowing what it meant. cue a ton of mouthwash, gargling, and some deep throat clearing the likes of which you'd hear from a dude horking up phelgm, not particularly pleasant. and for all that, she just licked around the tip for a minute, even if bare, before pulling off and going into hj overdrive. was definitely reminded that they're seasoned at what they do. it actually didn't really feel good at all, yet she somehow got me to pop in no time flat. disappointing, getting shooed off after 40 min total, and left thinking not to do 280 again.

second time, i went in without trying to say anything at all, not wanting to give any chance of upsell. side effect of that was the desk guy telling me he'd help pick for me, with no idea i could even understand that. got a 6ish plump mid-30s lady, and not wanting to say anything couldn't even ask for someone else. does totally give away your foreign status when you don't say a word, even if you might pass for looking like a local. got a kinda crappy massage, though when it came to the artificial-tongue roaming, could noticeably feel the little extra boob size her weight afforded. surprise for both of us on the flip. dunno exactly what she was expecting, but my size wasn't it; i'm guessing i'm probably very average by foreign standards, but who knows about local. another gel-pack thingy in her mouth for the front suddenly turned into seeing how far down she could go. bare, first of all, and minus the clinical cleaning of the first time. started off maybe 1/3rd of the way down and could manage as much as half, but this was probably owing to her (lack of) ability more than me; it was tight to the point of hurting so i was totally fine when she pulled off after less than 5 minutes and did the rest by hand. so is this the semi-laowai version of the (entirely fake) big dick syndrome: still willing to do it, but you'll automatically pay more. was never asked, but 280 again, so much for not going upsell.

third time, i tried straight english all the way. got a 7ish with something of a belly, for the third time no idea what number. everything by the same routine, but on flipping she rolled a condom on. didn't really ask for it, but whatever, see where this goes. cbj for some 5 minutes, which entirely didn't work since the damn cap was so tight it hurt more than anything else. she kind of noticed it and, after some (not-as-offensive) rinsing and wiping down with wetnaps, went bare. i'll blame the condom for this, but i couldn't pop for the entire time and she pretty much only pulled off when her jaw got tired. seeing all this stamina, she actually pulled out a notepad from the nightstand and wrote 500, pointing to her crotch. that was new, and i guess that means fs is on the menu in certain cases. also learned that they take card, a kind of ridiculous exchange of motioning with me not having enough money and her making swiping motions. didn't go for that, particularly not wanting to put another of those caps on, and also declined a time extension after the hour (?) was up. i got up and was almost to the shower, when she indicated that she would still get me off even without paying for more time. so i'm just standing in front of the shower while she goes at it with her mouth, hands-free at times (yay!) for another 10 minutes. the difference in height was enough that she could just bend over a bit and not be too uncomfortable, and i kinda mini-dribbled in her mouth. chalk that up to going for too long, she didn't even really notice. talk about customer service though, best 280 by far from this place.

so how do you go about asking what number a girl is, or asking for a specific number? given such wildly varying experiences, it seems like it would be a good thing to know. also would help to be able to repeat and see how that changes things.

[QUOTE=Prasath79; 1478253]Hi Sarawak,

Can you be more specific with the address of the massage shop, at least the cross road would be fine. Will like to go there.

Indian.[/QUOTE]Coming from Loushanguan road metro station and walking in direction Changning road you find the massage shops shortly before the intersection on the right side. At least 3 shops are in this area.