Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

From the last BMs you have gotten strong and good advices to which I mostly agree. I just have some addings to make from my humble experience (I am a heavy user of datingsites since I don't pick up girls through the EWR system and been so for 10+ yrs or so in many countries mostly I SEA).

TWO weeks before my arrival into Phils I fire up my profile (s) and start on the groundwork brushing up my profile and add a few extra new pics. Good idea with pics from phils by the way but I never did that so I don't know the value but I believe it adds extra credibility into your profile. But two weeks is by far enough time to build yourself a nice fleet of willing girls according to my exp that is. Remember to screen the girls by live webcam as soon as possible ro rule out the uglybugly ones right a way as it is a vaste of time.

ADULTFUN I have lately experienced some trouble by using. When I tell some girls it means two adults having sexual pleasure they seem very surprised. I have for this trip lowered the meaning of it and I explain it means we just kiss, cuddle and have a drink. I have also used the word romantic play. I have found out that some pinays are realy sensetive by use of rude words. Words girls from my region almost use in their daily talk is not "allowed" here. For the more hardcore material of girls here it does not seem to matter ofcourse.

PINALOVE is the only datingsite I chose to meet girls from this trip. Maby they are more naive than girls in other sites and that is why I did meet some new "problems" refering to what I mention above. But good selection of women also here.

TIMEDIFFERENCE you can actually let work to your benefit. Normal naive pinays fo to bed at reasonable hours. The girls working bars and partygirls stay online through their iphones and them you see online in wee hours. In other words pinays online when the rest of country sleeps are mostly play for pay girls with a few callcenter girls I might add. Also pinays online during daytime can mean they don't have work and wants to work on you to get something extra (but ofcourse this is by far no exact science).

I have met a few bargirls this way and I don't give a shit what they actually do as long as I don't have to meet them at the bar and through the EWR system.

DRINKS are my way to ease the mood when in room. I just stack my refrigirator with Tanduay Red Mirage and after a couple of bottles kissingprogram starts and we are good to go. Hardcore girls want maby more harcore stuff to drink but then it is a sure thing even without anything. I will add I don't get the girls drunk by force, it is their choice, but I see only a more relaxed session coming up when the girls get some alcohol in their blood.

CHOCOLATES are a must as a gift after session and a good motivation to some girls as they simply love this not from phil chocolate.

PLS READ PROFILE are my first words in my profiles headline this tim(it can also be others eyecatching words people can not misunderstand as "GENEROUS EUROPEAN GUY 40 COMING TO MANILA NOW", "SEXY GIRLS LOOK OUT YOU DONT WANT TO MISS THIS PROFILE", "MAKATIGIRLS ONLY" etc etc)..
BUT whatever you write in your profile some girls barly read it and i tend to also a bit down in my profiel encourage the girls wanting to meet me to write more than "hi" and also i do encourage them them to look at location from where i want the girls to come from. Far to many girls from Davao and Cebu contact me no matter what and far to many still say only "hi, i am sexy gurl"

STRETCHMARKS and camera angels are important to me. If you skip the livewebcam screening make them atleast send you photos from all possible angels there is to rule out chubby and fat. I have a big thing with stretchmarks so i have to see bellyarea before even want to meet girls. Pinays are experts to get them look beautiful in photos. My warning pic from girls in swimsuites with stomach covered(to me warningsign for stretchmarks). Pics of girls in saggy clothes(warningsigns for fat/chubby). Sometimes if they have baby from before i simply ask if they have stretchmarks and so far no one have lied to me..

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1489104]Many, if not all, guys want stunner who is 18-22, and these girls get dozens of messages everyday.[/QUOTE]This is the hardest and most sought after market. It's even hard to find these in the bars, especially the ones in their late teens!

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1489026]Having studied the most recent 50 pages of the forum I am still confused about how to use the dating sites. Would any members care to enlighten me by answering any of my questions below?

(By the way to give you some background: I have been to the Phils several times so I know the place fairly well. I used Filipina Heart a few years back but had no success whatsoever – so far all my girls have been barfines, and I will continue to barfine, but was hoping to mix things up a bit on my next trip by finding some contacts via the dating sites. One 'problem' of only using barfines is that as I result I have become accustomed to only spending time with pretty girls, even though I am not a young good-looking guy, and therefore I am very choosy.)

1. Should I contact girls on the dating sites, or should I expect them to contact me?

2. Because I live in Europe the time difference means that it is not convenient to interact with the girls in advance. Do any other members have this problem and if so, have you found a way around it?

3. I want to make it very clear to any potential contact very quickly that I just want somebody to 'sleep' with (and possibly hang out with). I want her to know that in exchange for this I will pay her for her time (or buy her gifts if she prefers it that way). Have any members got any ideas about what is the best way of making my intentions absolutely clear? For example are there any 'key phrases' I can put in my profile which will let them know what I am looking for, and increase my chances of meeting more contacts of this type?

4. Are there any 'shortcuts' I can follow to minimise the amount of time and effort I need to expend to make some contacts?

Answers to any of the above questions, or indeed any other general advice, would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]1. Although you get some messages from girls first I would ignore them. They are usually from experienced girls. I would send messages to girls I like exclusively on their pics. No time to waste reading their profiles. I ignore.

Everything they say including their target age group. Simple hi, hello or how are you should be your first message. If you are already in Phi message like " I am in Manila now and looking for company " is good.

I have done this many times and by afternoon had the girl. If the girl does not reply do not send any more message.

2. Phi girls are online most of the time these days. Internet cafe are everywhere and some have their own computers. More and more they use internet phones to send messages. So time difference is not a problem.

3. Once the girl you are interested in messages back start asking to chat either by yahoo messenger or skype. Try to see them in cam although many girls do not want to show their cam. Do not mention sex immediately.

If you do that you will drive some girls away especially if they have never been with a foreigner. They will think you could be a rough guy and afraid of you.

Certain hints like can you stay with me etc is good. These girls are not stupid so they know what it means. Some girls will say they will stay with you but no sex. Ignore them saying there is no fun in that. You will be surprised.

How many say no and change their mind. Unlike in western countries do not try to use alcohol to break the barrier. Once they drink too much they are not fun, maybe puking all over.

4. How to minimize your efforts? One way is if you are already in Phi. Plenty of guys promise the girl but never set foot in Phi. Next best thing is to say you will take care of them without mentioning money. If they come out

And ask how much you will pay negotiate with them to fix the price. Do not chase any girl even if she is gorgeous. Make a list of the girls with their phone in your order of priority. Text all and settle on the most promising one.

Irrespective of what they said before in chats has no value. When you are in town they put new restrictions and new demands.

Hope this helps.

I just wanted to say a big thank-you to all of the members who have provided answers to the questions I posted below.

D Cups, JPF, Hutsori, Amanut, MangoBob68, Skogis and Sammon:- All of your input is much appreciated, and your comments are both informative and insightful.

I will try my best to follow your suggestions.

Note: I am not sure if this first report should be in this forum, however, since my trip so far has been all about DIA, here it is.

Finally made it to Manila, a couple of nights ago. Well, the advice you guys gave about DIA was bang on. I started too early and the prospects I thought I had four weeks before, evaporated. Instead, the last week got pretty heated up and I managed to line up line about 10 dia prospects. Unfortunately, this has backfired, because they all knew I was arriving on Friday and now I am contending with messages from the ones I haven't seen yet and like an idiot I promised each of them I would text them on the night of my arrival. My take away from this for next time (hopefully is one) , not to give an exact date of arrival.

I had been in continous touch via skype with one girl at each leg of my long many legged trip so she knew when I touched down. She was at my makati hotel 20 minutes after checkin. 4'8" 90 lbs 21 years old, on my scale a 7 (I know old timers here would rate her lower. But I just arrived from land whale USA, so she was gorgeous.) After the initial hug she settled into my bed and fell asleep.

Unfortunately, I couldn't do the same. First I was on eastern time, second I had a rather large erection, and third I was pretty wound up after the flight. I tried half heartedly to wake her, unsure if it was bad etiquette or not. I was debating charging her half of the room rate for using my bed to flop in. Actually, eventually she did wake up and things started to happen. Overall, I wasn't overly impressed. The DFK wasn't very good and we didn't fit well together in other ways. So guys, am I the only one that has noticed that filipina's aren't quite configured the same way in pussy dept as western girls. I noticed this last time as well, that things don't work well for mish, better for cowgirl or doggy, because pussy is rather lower that I am used to. So anyway, some DFK, dining at the Y and BBBJ started things off, an aborted attempt at mish followed by cowgirl deflated Mr. Johnson. We didn't go for a second round later because we both slept until about 11AM after which we walked down to greenbelt 3 for lunch. And sure enough, when given a choice of restaurants, my new friend chose a Filipino restaurant we where shared sinigang baboy (very good). Turns out she only eats Filipino foods, an observation folks made about many girls here after my last trip.

Initially I was told she works in a mall, howevery during the course of our lunch conversation, I discovered that she works in a restaurant, well, no actually a resto bar. Well no, actually a bar on burgos. So although she wasn't the naive pinay I thought she was, nor the unprofessional I was looking for, I did get an overnighter for far less than if I had bf'd her.

I should mention that although a monetary figure wasn't established before the meeting, it was hinted that she had money problems. I slipped 2000 piso inside a bag with large bar of Cadbury Milk Chocolate, which seemed to be about right because I got texts from her the next two days, so much so that in spite of myself I saw her again, but thats my next story.

Another note: although my early start in DIA wasn't productive, it did give me some experience with the whole game, and game it is.

An entertaining FR. Thanks.

A question and two comments. What time did you arrive that caused the girl to promptly fall asleep?

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1489648]Unfortunately, this has backfired, because they all knew I was arriving on Friday and now I am contending with messages from the ones I haven't seen yet and like an idiot I promised each of them I would text them on the night of my arrival. My take away from this for next time (hopefully is one) , not to give an exact date of arrival.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Did you tell the girls you're here for holiday or business? If holiday that's a mistake. Your time is her time because you have nothing else to do. Always tell the girl you're here on business because it's a convenient out. You may have to do a bit a play acting, such as dressing and leaving the hotel for your "business meeting", but once she's off in the jeep you can U-turn back to your hotel. This works very well if you're having two or more meetings a day.

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1489648]And sure enough, when given a choice of restaurants, my new friend chose a Filipino restaurant we where shared sinigang baboy (very good). Turns out she only eats Filipino foods, an observation folks made about many girls here after my last trip.[/QUOTE]It was "sure enough" because you allowed it to be so. The concept of face isn't discussed much here, but Filipinos have it, and they're loathe to err. They'll go with the safe, known choice, which is Filipino. I think many Filipinas do best when then are given few, if any, choices over anything, especially over meals. Though Manila, and Makati and BGC in particular, offer a wide array of cuisines most Pinays aren't well acquainted to them. For the most part they aren't fussy eaters and will happily try many dishes provided she has your guiding hand giving recommendations. It allows you much to talk about whilst reading the menus, it builds rapport, and most importantly she'll conclude you're a caring guy, which is to your benefit if you want to see her again.

Let us know how it goes, AE. I, too, learned some things from others' approaches, esp. Samm and Huts.

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1489465]I just wanted to say a big thank-you to all of the members who have provided answers to the questions I posted below.

D Cups, JPF, Hutsori, Amanut, MangoBob68, Skogis and Sammon:- All of your input is much appreciated, and your comments are both informative and insightful.

I will try my best to follow your suggestions.[/QUOTE]

This page MUST be bookmarked somehow; which has some good advises. As a paid member of FC, I made so many good friends but never talked any words about SEX Lolz. May be I am little unproductive. I don't know. But Many had given me their numbers and willing to meet me.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1489137]Be very careful not to send a lady a message you copied and paste but forgot to change the name! Hahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Create a notepad and keep it open when you are replying to girls; if you feel a sentence can be a generic one, copy and paste it in the notepad for future easy usage.

I obtained one of my girl's password for her FC account. I was amazed at all the YOUNG studly guys who are Platinums and Golds on the site. I'm afraid the good old days of not much competition are long gone. This must be why there are more and more girls only wanting contacts from 35 year olds and under. A few years ago, they wouldn't have found many who fit that criteria. These young guys (who judging by their photos could easily find girls where they live), seem to be getting fed up with U.S. and European girls' attitudes and ready to spend money to find an alternative.

[QUOTE=David_33;1490081]I obtained one of my girl's password for her FC account. I was amazed at all the YOUNG studly guys who are Platinums and Golds on the site. I'm afraid the good old days of not much competition are long gone. This must be why there are more and more girls only wanting contacts from 35 year olds and under. A few years ago, they wouldn't have found many who fit that criteria. These young guys (who judging by their photos could easily find girls where they live), seem to be getting fed up with U.S. and European girls' attitudes and ready to spend money to find an alternative.[/QUOTE]Let's hope we have more economic power than them, David more maturity etc as the 'young bucks' on this forum don't like to pay.

And I hope the young bucks believe that shaved is best LOL.

Got myself a sex pest. A quite fuckable Manda 20 year old facebook friend who I originally met on DIA. Last 5 text messages:

[Quote]blowjob[/Quote][Quote]hi.cum to my mouth pls.[/Quote][Quote]Hi bby. Can u fuck me[/Quote][Quote]I want to suck u and swallow your cum[/Quote][Quote]Hi.Can we met so that I can swallow your cum?[/Quote]Been going on for days now. Sometimes I answer and we have some pretty hot dialogues but my heart isn't into cybersex, although she says that she gets off on it. I suspect that she will not take it any further than texts but she seems to be getting braver recently so who knows? But surely this could only happen in The Philippines? A man in his fifties being sexually harassed by a 20 year old girl. World on its head or what?

P. S Yes, I thought it was a TS / guy too so, early on in our weird friendship, I asked her to video call me on FB, which she did and its the same girl as in her FB pics. Wouldn't get naked for me though as she claimed there were people in the house.

I've been Writing some to a really cute girl in her mid twenties, she claims she is still living with her family at home, is studying, working and go to the Church every Sunday. She seem to be a decent girl, kind.

I am thinking of seeing her with some more serious thoughts in my mind when visiting in April, one thing kind of bother me though, that she also have market this option in you're profile in DIA that you want to meet for "other".

I am thinking that if a girl marked this option it means that she is open minded to meet guys for one-night-stands and that kind of stuff, am I right or wrong?

Of course I don't want to find myself in something more serious with that kind of girl.

Do you think DIA is the wrong place to look if you are thinking of something more serious?

But if so, then where shall you look?

[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1491971]I've been Writing some to a really cute girl in her mid twenties, she claims she is still living with her family at home, is studying, working and go to the Church every Sunday. She seem to be a decent girl, kind.

I am thinking of seeing her with some more serious thoughts in my mind when visiting in April, one thing kind of bother me though, that she also have market this option in you're profile in DIA that you want to meet for "other".

I am thinking that if a girl marked this option it means that she is open minded to meet guys for one-night-stands and that kind of stuff, am I right or wrong?

Of course I don't want to find myself in something more serious with that kind of girl.

Do you think DIA is the wrong place to look if you are thinking of something more serious?

But if so, then where shall you look?[/QUOTE]Her marking the "other" option on her profile probably doesn't mean anything but it still doesn't assure she is non open minded. No matter where you initially meet your girl you will need to spend extended time with her and meet her family to determine if it will work out for a serious relationship. Filipina Cupid site might work out better for you than DIA but I have found naughty girls that are open minded on fc as well.

Not sure if you have been to Phil yet or is this your first trip? Either way you should not get locked in to one girl. Make a number of connections and meet them in person and if you click then spend more time with that girl.

[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1491971]I've been Writing some to a really cute girl in her mid twenties, she claims she is still living with her family at home, is studying, working and go to the Church every Sunday. She seem to be a decent girl, kind.

I am thinking of seeing her with some more serious thoughts in my mind when visiting in April, one thing kind of bother me though, that she also have market this option in you're profile in DIA that you want to meet for "other".

I am thinking that if a girl marked this option it means that she is open minded to meet guys for one-night-stands and that kind of stuff, am I right or wrong?

Of course I don't want to find myself in something more serious with that kind of girl.

Do you think DIA is the wrong place to look if you are thinking of something more serious?

But if so, then where shall you look?[/QUOTE]Many a men have made mistakes just chatting girls and forming serious or other opinions. Best thing is to hold your horses and of course your hormones till you meet the girl. Going to church does not mean anything.

If you are serious about meeting a Phi girl and marrying her do due diligence and meet as many girls as possible before making up your mind. In this forum many of us me included are looking for only fun and have gotten fun only with many of so called homely church going ladies.