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Thanks, I'll check it out tonight. They may be there, they may not but should be cool either way. I think it's a Koreatown now.[QUOTE=Jpn Dude]This might be way old news but I used to live near Okubo-dori just north of Kabukicho, Shinjuku years ago. The Latin ladies would be out once the sun went down. I met quite a few Colombians and Peruvians.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kish1970]I went today and its true.They are back to accepting foreigners.[/QUOTE]Yes they are, albeit with the Gaijin Premium. I was offered the opportunity to pay an extra 2k "shimei-ryou" when I didn't choose a girl and there was in fact only one girl working ;) I respectfully declined. If you don't mind the 20-40% premium, have at 'em boys.ES

[QUOTE=Xslikx]Depending on chemistry and whatnot you will get HJ, sumata and every once in a while some BBBJ and/or FS. So far I haven't met one of these girls who say no to DATY or sumata.[/QUOTE]So that was why when I went to Star last Tuesday it was closed. They were renovating in order to change the shop name. So about the FS if you can get it, is it covered? I wouldn't think a place like this had condoms around. Looking forward to trying Sky.I went to Hikari, a few blocks down, instead and got the most robotic service I've ever had at a KMP. The girl's name is Ai. In her defense though she gave a really good massage. But the "extra" service was very lacking. Not recommended.[url]http://n-hikari.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude]This might be way old news but I used to live near Okubo-dori just north of Kabukicho, Shinjuku years ago. The Latin ladies would be out once the sun went down. I met quite a few Colombians and Peruvians.[/QUOTE]That was a long time ago. I haven't seen any Latina streetwalkers when I've been down there. Or really any fuckable street walkers at all - which condition excludes the ubiquitous Chinese massaji girls.

Interesting that the issue of supplementary costs to assuage reluctant proprieters has arisen. I've been trying to get to some of the venues featuring chubby girls, but to no avail. The ones I've contacted ( mochi mochi, mammoth etc) have rejected me outright even though I offered a gaijin honorarium of twice the normal price. These places seem to be in principle closed to gaijin no matter how much you are willing to pay. I wouldn't go higher than twice the normal levy.

Just wanted to throw together a quick trip report.Today, I swung by Jan Jan and Hi-Top. Given reports of other members, I was thinking that I'd get an older hag, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of women. I would say that these gals were maybe in their late 20's (or I could be off and they're younger than they look)At any rate, I stopped by Hi-Top first, since I had been to Jan Jan in the past. Greeted @ the door by papa-san, paid my fee (8k), he tried to explain what went on, but I didn't understand, so I just smiled and said "hai." Anyway, went to the seating area and waited for a while until the gal was ready. I get escorted to the back, to the booth where the chica was waiting. Don't know if she was Chinese, Japanese or Korean, but she was decent looking. She screamed at the sight of me. I wasn't sure what was going on, but I thought there was some sort of problem with me being a coco gaijin. But she was just jiving, a mock fear at my size.Service was same as it has been reported in the past. Some small talk, Shawaaa, back to the booth, foreplay, bbbj, cg then pop. Definitely wasn't as worn out as I thought she would be. Maybe it was because I stopped by in the early afternoon, I don't know. Afterwards a massage, then another shawaa, and I was sent on my way.Wandered around a bit, a couple of hours, eventually went to Sugamo to Jan Jan. Same as always, paid my fee, sat in the booth, waited for the provider. Another girl, seemingly in her late 20's maybe early 30's. I don't know if it's a new thing or not, but she offered to put a condom on for a bj. Never had that happen to me before there. There was a recent herpes scare reported here, that may have something to do with it, I don't know. Well, she tried putting the condom on, without success. Couldn't get it past the head. I thought it was pretty funny. So, I go with the usual bbbj. She was pretty good, which has been my experience at Jan Jan. Playing with her boobs and her kitty, I was surprised to feel that she was soaking wet (varies from girl to girl, some are more easily aroused than others). So, I fingered her while she was sucking me off. Which, to her chagrin, took longer than expected. She did pretty good work I must say, that I didn't pop quickly wasn't due to her lack of effort. But she eventually got me off, shortly before my time was up.Overall, it was a very good experience. Given the pricing of either place, I'll be a repeat customer. And once I figure my way around the Japanese language, I'll target nonpros and other "health" places.

[QUOTE=Vocal14]Interesting that the issue of supplementary costs to assuage reluctant proprieters has arisen. I've been trying to get to some of the venues featuring chubby girls, but to no avail. The ones I've contacted ( mochi mochi, mammoth etc) have rejected me outright even though I offered a gaijin honorarium of twice the normal price. These places seem to be in principle closed to gaijin no matter how much you are willing to pay. I wouldn't go higher than twice the normal levy.[/QUOTE]Please restrain yourself and do not offer to pay extra because you are not Japanese. That does us all a huge disfavor.

[url]http://www.e-msqs.com/[/url]Anyone trying this one? I like the photos on the site. It says its 100% real, that you can book the 40mn course only, and can discuss then in detail the course with her. And switch the girl with no fee if you don't like her.Can't be bad can it? FS and more can probably be negotiated.Looks like its one of the (many) shops in the same building than minisuka (see previous posts)

At YuYu on Tues I drew ArYa, whose submissive disposition made up for her looks. CBJ, DATY, multiple positions on a par with the 8. 5k fee. I then wandered through to the East Side to search for a Pink Salon that was supposedly open to GJ. No way partners. None of the touts would even catch my glance in this neighborhood. But a Korean girl takes me into a Korean/Chinese esute she says is run by our friends at YuYu. I'm already played out for the evening but vow to come back.On Weds, I see the same fellow hosting the new place as YuYu the night before. I pick one girl, but the host steers me to Masumi, whose picture had to be taken at least 15 years before. But she's no worse than 7. 0/10. The bigger problem is that she doesn't want to be touched anywhere. So I lay back in position after position and she finally warms up and blam. It's 10K, and two other girls I glanced looked better than mine and were younger.To get there take the pedestrian bridge off the 2F East Exit from JR. Make a U-turn at the bottom of the stairs. Then take the first right at the Yoshinaya. At the next block, turn 60 deg into the road on the left. It's in the middle of this block on the right in the bldg with a black/gold sign of "Club Beam. " Climb to 2F and you're in.

[QUOTE=Lion]Please restrain yourself and do not offer to pay extra because you are not Japanese. That does us all a huge disfavor.[/QUOTE]If they *absolutely* won't take foreigners otherwise, why not? It opens the door for negotiation and economic leverage.On a different note, I sent emails to a bunch of soaplands and these two service foreigners for relatively cheap:[url]http://aluhambra.kir.jp/index2.htm[/url]. They seem pretty proud of the fact that they don't discriminate. You pay what the Japanese customers pay. They request that you speak conversational Japanese, though.[url]http://www.Soap-byakuya.com/morning/top.php[/url]. They have a 5, 000 yen gaijin fee. Also, they're part of a group, so this probably extends to the rest of them.

Has anyone any recent experiences of the mxy chain? I used to regularly go to Shibuya and even had a point card at one time. However, I found that being a gaijin I would have limited choice of girls. They would always steer you towards the less attractive girls. I always wanted to try Shinbashi, but feared that it would be Japanese only. [url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/[/url]Whenever I have been back in Shibuya it has always been rather late, near closing time.

Is this the YuYu in Gotanda? Or another one?For the Pinsaro, you didn't follow my instructions. Read the post.[QUOTE=Canick1]At YuYu on Tues I drew ArYa, whose submissive disposition made up for her looks. CBJ, DATY, multiple positions on a par with the 8. 5k fee. I then wandered through to the East Side to search for a Pink Salon that was supposedly open to GJ. No way partners. None of the touts would even catch my glance in this neighborhood. But a Korean girl takes me into a Korean/Chinese esute she says is run by our friends at YuYu. I'm already played out for the evening but vow to come back.On Weds, I see the same fellow hosting the new place as YuYu the night before. I pick one girl, but the host steers me to Masumi, whose picture had to be taken at least 15 years before. But she's no worse than 7. 0/10. The bigger problem is that she doesn't want to be touched anywhere. So I lay back in position after position and she finally warms up and blam. It's 10K, and two other girls I glanced looked better than mine and were younger.To get there take the pedestrian bridge off the 2F East Exit from JR. Make a U-turn at the bottom of the stairs. Then take the first right at the Yoshinaya. At the next block, turn 60 deg into the road on the left. It's in the middle of this block on the right in the bldg with a black/gold sign of "Club Beam. " Climb to 2F and you're in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Otaku]If they *absolutely* won't take foreigners otherwise, why not?[/QUOTE]Because *no one* "absolutely" won't take foreigners. When you offer more they demand more. Plus these proprietors talk to each other. One tells another that Gaijin offer to pay above standard and pretty soon it's the norm everywhere. Do the rest of us a favor.ES

I am talking about YuYu in Gotanda. I easily followed your directions and talked to the Korean lady about the pinsaro. She said that none of the places in this neighborhood accept GJ, which is consistent with the reactions I saw. I guess I look more GJ than you do, and I don't speak any nihongo.

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Because *no one* "absolutely" won't take foreigners. When you offer more they demand more. Plus these proprietors talk to each other. One tells another that Gaijin offer to pay above standard and pretty soon it's the norm everywhere. Do the rest of us a favor.ES[/QUOTE]Evan is right.If you REALLY want to go to a place that is off limits, befriend some Japanese mongers and no doubt they will invite you along at some point. I imagine if you posted on a Japanese site similar to this one someone would take sympathy on you.