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Seriously, you could not pay me enough to step foot in Casa Benjamin. The place is nothing but trouble, and nothing good can come out of stopping there.
A word to the wise. Under no circumstances go to this place, and as Black Page pointed out, if you are with a girl who talks about going there, dump her immediately as she is no good.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1867676]It's a nice long report, but I cannot refrain from noticing an amazing amount of mistakes you did (well, "mistakes" from my perspective, of course; take it as a friendly opinion).
That's the mother of all mistakes[/QUOTE]Yeah, and I call be bullshit on your post, Black Page, You have no business picking this guy's post apart and critiquing his actions. You weren't there, you didn't experience his good time, you aren't his supervisor, or court-appointed guardian. Chinzano had a good time, and posted a good report, whereas you have done neither.
Seriously, when was the last time you actually posted a trip report (and before you ask when I last posted a trip report, the answer is an hour ago)? No, I don't have the time or patience to read through your 1600+ posts and figure out if you have a genuine trip report to your name. But for such a prolific poster, couldn't you a least post a CURRENT trip report, documenting your perfect, by the book, experience as a monger in Cartegena? Humor us a bit, and share one of your very recent experiences in Colombia, so we don't know you are just some guy churning out posts in your mother's basement, when you aren't making sandwiches at Subway. Forums like these thrive on fresh information, not self-indulgent commentary. As I see it Chizano had a great time that would make a lot of people envious, and you did not. And I actually learned a bit from his report. Thanks, Chinzano.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1867803]Yeah, and I call be bullshit on your post, Black Page, You have no business picking this guy's post apart and critiquing his actions. You weren't there, you didn't experience his good time, you aren't his supervisor, or court-appointed guardian. Chinzano had a good time, and posted a good report, whereas you have done neither.
Seriously, when was the last time you actually posted a trip report (and before you ask when I last posted a trip report, the answer is an hour ago)? No, I don't have the time or patience to read through your 1600+ posts and figure out if you have a genuine trip report to your name. But for such a prolific poster, couldn't you a least post a CURRENT trip report, documenting your perfect, by the book, experience as a monger in Cartegena? Humor us a bit, and share one of your very recent experiences in Colombia, so we don't know you are just some guy churning out posts in your mother's basement, when you aren't making sandwiches at Subway. Forums like these thrive on fresh information, not self-indulgent commentary. As I see it Chizano had a great time that would make a lot of people envious, and you did not. And I actually learned a bit from his report. Thanks, Chinzano.[/QUOTE]I like when some guys give their best self-description in one post.
You don't have to read 1600+ reports. Just go to the Report of Distinction thread. And there is a trick: try a search in a thread specifying the user name. You might learn something, and not about just Cartagena.
I think my first report from CTG was in 2007? I don't remember. So many. And contributions to the Lists. You were not even a member. Maybe still virgin.
Ah, my longest REPORTS (not comments) since 10 years ago are in the threads of Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Quito, Guayaquil, La Paz, Lima, San Salvador, Panama, Dhaka, Ghana, Uganda, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Indonesia, plus a number various others in other places which I forgot.
Do you have time to read? Go to the RoD of Indonesia and enjoy my stories from Batam. But I warn you it will take long time. They are collection of novelettes, more than reports.
P.S.: do you write with one or two hands?
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1867803]Yeah, and I call be bullshit on your post, Black Page, You have no business picking this guy's post apart and critiquing his actions. You weren't there, you didn't experience his good time, you aren't his supervisor, or court-appointed guardian. Chinzano had a good time, and posted a good report, whereas you have done neither.
Seriously, when was the last time you actually posted a trip report (and before you ask when I last posted a trip report, the answer is an hour ago)? No, I don't have the time or patience to read through your 1600+ posts and figure out if you have a genuine trip report to your name. But for such a prolific poster, couldn't you a least post a CURRENT trip report, documenting your perfect, by the book, experience as a monger in Cartegena? Humor us a bit, and share one of your very recent experiences in Colombia, so we don't know you are just some guy churning out posts in your mother's basement, when you aren't making sandwiches at Subway. Forums like these thrive on fresh information, not self-indulgent commentary. As I see it Chizano had a great time that would make a lot of people envious, and you did not. And I actually learned a bit from his report. Thanks, Chinzano.[/QUOTE]I'm just curious how Black Page's response qualifies as "bullshit?" he wasn't insulting or unnecessarily harsh, he simply pointed out some useful things.
1. Why bring sand to the beach? That's between $100 and $400, just in airfare for the 2 girls, plus food and drinks. If he was planning to wife up with a girl for the whole stay, that's no problem, but paying for about 6 days to get 2 isn't necessarily a good choice. A better option (my opinion) is to hit up the social media and dating sites. Find a CTG girl who's willing and able to play tour guide, Spanish instructor, matchmaker and morning wood chopper.
2. It turns out his tour guide wasn't a good tour guide. For example, the Rosario Island mess.
3. he had a good time, but it could have been better. Only a lucky encounter salvaged it at the end.
4. It appears (my opinion again) he didn't learn anything from the trip. He sponsored 2 chicas who took advantage of his generosity and showed no respect to him (if I'm paying a chica or 2 to stay with me, when I go to the room, they go to the room, not out partying and earning extra money while I'm still paying them). After that, he's still friends with them.
Following up on that, the last girl he now wants to take to another city. If you find someone, somewhere that you want to repeat with, go back to where you found her. There's no way she's going to fuck you better in another city or country. Unless you're planning on marrying her, you don't have to try and impress her by flying her someplace else. There's some chica in Cancun just waiting to be impressed by your pesos.
Chinzano's report was good and helpful, but someone needs to point out the problems, before someone else makes a worse mistake.
[QUOTE=Chinzano;1866529]It's time for me to contribute to this great community from which I learned so much. I just came back home from my 4 day trip to Cartagena and have a story to share which is probably going to be long. I rented thru AirBNB a nice condo next to the old city and planned to invite my favorite lady from Medellin which I met in the Mansion two months earlier. I told her that I pay airfare and 300 k for each day that she spends with me. I am not a guy who is looking for a girlfriend but I needed this for several reasons: a) to have a pussy available at any time, b) to practice my Spanish skills, c) to have a guide in Cartagena where I never been before, and finally d) to use her connections to pick up a girl once or twice for threesome.
As if expecting this, a few days before the trip, she texted me asking if I do not mind if she brings another chica - a very good friend of her. She sent me her pictures and assured that the chica is really good in bed and she is very excited to join both of us. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Good to see someone report both the successes and failures.
What would really help everyone here if for you to identify the girl from the Mansion so someone else doesn't make the same mistakes with her.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1867879]I'm just curious how Black Page's response qualifies as "bullshit?" he wasn't insulting or unnecessarily harsh, he simply pointed out some useful things.
[/QUOTE]Agree. I didn't find anything insulting in BP response.
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1. Why bring sand to the beach? That's between $100 and $400, just in airfare for the 2 girls, plus food and drinks. If he was planning to wife up with a girl for the whole stay, that's no problem, but paying for about 6 days to get 2 isn't necessarily a good choice. A better option (my opinion) is to hit up the social media and dating sites. Find a CTG girl who's willing and able to play tour guide, Spanish instructor, matchmaker and morning wood chopper.
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On the expense side, I spent on these girls overall 2500-3000 k pesos which is quite a good money, I have to admit. Surely this is not my pocket money.
On the value side, I had two girls with me almost 72 hours, during which I fucked them 4-5 times. I also had no problems filling out my spare time - usual problem when I travel solo on mongering trips.
This time it was pretty much non-stop fun and I truly enjoyed it.
Overall, it was an experience I dreamed about for some time and I don't regret, of cause.
Do I want to repeat this again? Probably, not. It is really too hard to keep all moving parts under control.
Too much room for possible errors especially when deal with two foreign girls in a foreign country with limited language.
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2. It turns out his tour guide wasn't a good tour guide. For example, the Rosario Island mess.
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Yes, you make a valid point with Rosario Island. However there were a countless number of other situations where the girls were truly indispensable navigating me thru local geography, local customs, etc.
If I were there on my own, I would be constantly immersed in studying directions, and other logistics. They made my life easier on many fronts. Worth to mention that the girls were arguing with the boat owner with such a passion that I had to stop it at one point before it went ugly.
Don't forget that the girls were from Medellin and they mentioned to me that the Cartagena people are commonly non-trustworthy and cheaters, so I wouldn't blame them for being duped in this situation.
We were truly an easy target for these sharks as Black Page mentioned.
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4. It appears (my opinion again) he didn't learn anything from the trip. He sponsored 2 chicas who took advantage of his generosity and showed no respect to him (if I'm paying a chica or 2 to stay with me, when I go to the room, they go to the room, not out partying and earning extra money while I'm still paying them). After that, he's still friends with them.
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Disagree here. Let me explain. First, the chicas actually showed me a lot of respect: they were truly friendly to me, accommodative with my desires in many ways and did their best to entertain me, even in the clubs.
It just at some point of time, they failed to "report to duty" and were fired as a result. Please notice that I was paying them daily but retroactively, so on the morning when they did not show up, they had no pay and were told to vacate my place.
Lets understand that we cannot expect party girls in their 20's in a third country to adhere to the same high US business standards as we used to.
It is perfectly normal that they were carried away with the drinks, drugs and the party. We just need to be able to manage the risks and always have a plan B in case if something does not go as expected. I know the girls did not have intentions to cheat me. They just have some discipline issues and very powerful habits.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1867879]
Following up on that, the last girl he now wants to take to another city. If you find someone, somewhere that you want to repeat with, go back to where you found her.
There's no way she's going to fuck you better in another city or country.
Unless you're planning on marrying her, you don't have to try and impress her by flying her someplace else. There's some chica in Cancun just waiting to be impressed by your pesos.
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I see your point but disagree in details. Yes, I understand a pleasure of a short term fuck.
However, at times, when I feel right chemistry with a girl, I try to arrange a bit more elevated experience such as a dinner, or going to club or even taking a girl to a resort.
This way, (no guarantee of cause but very likely) I get from her a true GFE. Bareback sex, anal sex, etc.
And I am very selective about whom I am going to bring to resort. Cancun is not particular a mongering paradise so why not to lock myself for 96 hours with a hot 19 year old?
Are you saying this is a bad idea? Keep in mind that she never been there and probably it is her first trip abroad. Cancun for Colombian chicas is like Las Vegas or Paris. Very privileged experience.
My gut feeling is that she will be very eager to please me there for giving her that chance. Let's see. I am going there in two weeks so I will report when I get back.
[QUOTE=Chinzano;1867981]Agree. I didn't find anything insulting in BP response.
On the expense side, I spent on these girls overall 2500-3000 k pesos which is quite a good money, I have to admit. Surely this is not my pocket money.
On the value side, I had two girls with me almost 72 hours, during which I fucked them 4-5 times. I also had no problems filling out my spare time - usual problem when I travel solo on mongering trips.
This time it was pretty much non-stop fun and I truly enjoyed it.
Overall, it was an experience I dreamed about for some time and I don't regret, of cause.
Do I want to repeat this again? Probably, not. It is really too hard to keep all moving parts under control.
Too much room for possible errors especially when deal with two foreign girls in a foreign country with limited language.
Yes, you make a valid point with Rosario Island. However there were a countless number of other situations where the girls were truly indispensable navigating me thru local geography, local customs, etc.
If I were there on my own, I would be constantly immersed in studying directions, and other logistics. They made my life easier on many fronts. Worth to mention that the girls were arguing with the boat owner with such a passion that I had to stop it at one point before it went ugly.
Don't forget that the girls were from Medellin and they mentioned to me that the Cartagena people are commonly non-trustworthy and cheaters, so I wouldn't blame them for being duped in this situation.
We were truly an easy target for these sharks as Black Page mentioned.
Disagree here. Let me explain. First, the chicas actually showed me a lot of respect: they were truly friendly to me, accommodative with my desires in many ways and did their best to entertain me, even in the clubs.
It just at some point of time, they failed to "report to duty" and were fired as a result. Please notice that I was paying them daily but retroactively, so on the morning when they did not show up, they had no pay and were told to vacate my place.
Lets understand that we cannot expect party girls in their 20's in a third country to adhere to the same high US business standards as we used to.
It is perfectly normal that they were carried away with the drinks, drugs and the party. We just need to be able to manage the risks and always have a plan B in case if something does not go as expected. I know the girls did not have intentions to cheat me. They just have some discipline issues and very powerful habits.
I see your point but disagree in details. Yes, I understand a pleasure of a short term fuck.
However, at times, when I feel right chemistry with a girl, I try to arrange a bit more elevated experience such as a dinner, or going to club or even taking a girl to a resort.
This way, (no guarantee of cause but very likely) I get from her a true GFE. Bareback sex, anal sex, etc.
And I am very selective about whom I am going to bring to resort. Cancun is not particular a mongering paradise so why not to lock myself for 96 hours with a hot 19 year old?
Are you saying this is a bad idea? Keep in mind that she never been there and probably it is her first trip abroad. Cancun for Colombian chicas is like Las Vegas or Paris. Very privileged experience.
My gut feeling is that she will be very eager to please me there for giving her that chance. Let's see. I am going there in two weeks so I will report when I get back.[/QUOTE]I understand up to a point. That degree of comfort with a familiar girl makes for a better experience. Especially one who's able to help overcome the language barriers.
But, when you're dealing with hard partying girls, you're taking a big, unnecessary risk, especially when they're out on their own for several hours. Too many possibilities for trouble.
If you're really looking for the total GFE, you should find another source. Casa girls and streetwalkers might give it to you, if the price is right, if they like your look, if they are in the right mood, etc. But it's not location dependent.
If you take the 19 year old to Cancun, she's already won. She doesn't have to work harder to impress you because you've already agreed to her price. It's actually better for her if she turns her performance down a notch. Why should she try to blow your mind 3 times a day when she gets paid the same for 1 time a day? You've already bought the tickets. Worst case she gets paid to take a short vacation.
There's rarely a shortage of mongering options in any tourist destination and there are plenty of (I don't like this term) semi-pros who will be happy to play girlfriend to a tourist willing to be generous.
Whatever works for you, if you're happy that's what matters. I just see things a different way.
You did what you wanted to do on your terms Chinzy. Having 19-21 year old girls show up consistently (more than one day) and fuck you consistently is a feat unto itself. I don't care what Country your in. There are just too many variables that can affect a young womans show up rate (parents, she lives with, drugs, boyfriends, period, etc etc etc) In this last trip took you took, you and Charlie Sheen now have something in common. Winning. I don't see anywhere in your report where you took any huge stupid risks- You even held back the money till they showed up. Sure you could of played.
It "Safer" but where's the fun in that? Half the fun of this game is not knowing what's going to happen and using your instincts and experience to limit risk and play it however you see fit. And that's what you did!
[QUOTE=OldParr;1867749]Seriously, you could not pay me enough to step foot in Casa Benjamin. The place is nothing but trouble, and nothing good can come out of stopping there.
A word to the wise. Under no circumstances go to this place, and as Black Page pointed out, if you are with a girl who talks about going there, dump her immediately as she is no good.[/QUOTE]You couldn't step foot in the place if you wanted to, only Israelite's are allowed in.
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What would really help everyone here if for you to identify the girl from the Mansion so someone else doesn't make the same mistakes with her.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I would not post her name for public shame, for two reasons.
After all, she delivered what she was expected to deliver and made Mr. Chinzano happy. Nothing stolen or major trouble. The experience was disappointing to some extent, but it could not have been better IMHO (and I already elaborated enough on that).
Second, I think that it's a awful idea to invite to Cartagena ANY girl from Mansion, so there is no need to point everyone's attention in particular to one of them, as one to not invite. I don't think the experience could have been much better with anyone else.
I am not saying they are "bad girls", but they are "very well experienced", so to speak. Many of them probably went to work to Cartagena a few times already. Any pickup from the Plaza del Reloy or even LDV could give [I]at worst[/I] a similar experience.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1868253]You couldn't step foot in the place if you wanted to, only Israelite's are allowed in.[/QUOTE]For those who don't know, Casa Benjamin is a holiday "hostel" for Israeli guys. If you can read Hebrew (or you can use Google Translate) you can also check their Facebook.
As Manizales911 reminded, no way you could book there if you don't come from Israel. Try to knock, and the door will remain closed. Sexy girls are the only non-Israeli people who are admitted, and not all girls. Imagine the criterion of selection.
They are paranoid for security, so they just built an external wall protecting the house itself (I guess against bombings). Videocamera pointed to the door, of course. Don't mess with them. They all come from the Israeli army and are well trained.
The other resort for Israreli in CTG was the (in) famous Casa Golan. Closed now, AFAIK, after the scandal of the video posted by some "journalist" depicting a drunk girl taken away from the casa (they hinted she was kind of "abducted", but actually she was simply high of drugs and they were taking her away to not have to much troubles inside).
More details on Casa Benjamin even in this thread, but posted months and years ago. Just make a search for posts including "Benjamin" (why not, also by "Black Page").
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1868259]Honestly, I would not post her name for public shame, for two reasons.
After all, she delivered what she was expected to deliver and made Mr. Chinzano happy. Nothing stolen or major trouble. The experience was disappointing to some extent, but it could not have been better IMHO (and I already elaborated enough on that).
Second, I think that it's a awful idea to invite to Cartagena ANY girl from Mansion, so there is no need to point everyone's attention in particular to one of them, as one to not invite. I don't think the experience could have been much better with anyone else.
I am not saying they are "bad girls", but they are "very well experienced", so to speak. Many of them probably went to work to Cartagena a few times already. Any pickup from the Plaza del Reloy or even LDV could give [I]at worst[/I] a similar experience.[/QUOTE]Thats your opinion and I disagree.
There are a hundred guys reading this that will be at the mansion in the next 6 months and probably 99 of them would prefer to know who this "very well experienced" chica is that parties at casa Benjamin in CTG and probably also casa Schlomi in MDE so they can avoid taking her at the Mansion.
Up to Chinzano to further help out the brothers here and provide her name.
Chinzano,
I commend you for doing the right thing and not posting the name. Your kindness in doing so will be very appreciated by myself and many others. Thank you for your reports and much success and happiness to you in your future mongering adventures!
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1868527]Thats your opinion and I disagree.
There are a hundred guys reading this that will be at the mansion in the next 6 months and probably 99 of them would prefer to know who this "very well experienced" chica is that parties at casa Benjamin in CTG and probably also casa Schlomi in MDE so they can avoid taking her at the Mansion.
Up to Chinzano to further help out the brothers here and provide her name.[/QUOTE]Brothers,
Believe me, if she had ever crossed the "dishonesty" line, I would not hesitate to post her name and her picture all over the place.
She is turning 28 this year (BTW, her amiga was 22) and belongs to the category of "party girls" which makes her fun to deal with, but living "high" apparently takes toll on her.
She performs well in bed, friendly and smiley and have a good personality, 8-9 face, 6-7 body.
I guarantee you that you have nothing to worry if you come across her and hire for service in the Mansion.
One more detail I just recalled: when I had her in the Mansion initially for one hour (200 k) I liked her so much that after first session I extended my offer to the whole night for 300 k.
Then we went downstairs to the Cave bar for a few drinks in between sex. There she met her amigas and they probably smoked the "stuff" and around 1. 30 am she asked me if I do not mind to join them to night club.
I said, I am not interested but if she wants to go then No Problem as long as she returns the difference 100 k back. She returned the money without hesitation!
This is to illustrate how powerful the "party demons" possess her.
[QUOTE=OldParr;1868572]Chinzano,
I commend you for doing the right thing and not posting the name. Your kindness in doing so will be very appreciated by myself and many others. [/QUOTE]Are you kidding? "doing the right thing" All I asked was Chinzano provide the name of the girl. I didn't ask for any unauthorized pictures or anything else. Just a simple name so in the future myself and others guys that aren't into the big party girls that frequent the Israeli casas can avoid her. Conversely there are some dudes that are big into the drug scene and this girl sounds like a good one to have for those guys. A simple request for a name, nothing more. This site is about sharing information on mongering, rather I should say it is supposed to be about that.
Thanks to Chinzano again for the original report, it had some info for those new to Cartagena and also provided an honest account of successes and mistakes made.