Dubai Reports

Had an interesting Saturday where I took a field trip to the lowest priced end of the spectrum in dubai. Here fingers represent tens and are used as the universal bargaining language.

In two cases i paid just to go visit their place but declined to partake after she stripped down. In both cases they were quite offended when i didnt go through with it.

In all cases these were streetwalkers who were joking and laughing. No men were pimping them, none were in the apartments, and they certainly weren't the imprisoned maid types.

While the range was mostly 3-5, there were a couple of 6s and a 7.5 on offer. The younger, prettier women (6+) are not offered to everybody (I watched them turn down several pakistani labourors despite double the price being offered) but do not give head though. More details in a field report when mrs. eagle eyes leaves me alone long enough.

-PH on safari

p.s. i want to try lena at al qouz but mister paranoia is being annoying and asking for my reference and reference phone number

[QUOTE=Grateful Spread]AgreedBut it looks really good on you

OK enough of this bullshit. No point taking yourself so seriously on this forum. I'd offer to buy you a drink this weekend to bury the hatchet but I'm not sure I'd be able to get you away from your adoring, payment-refusing Filipinas;)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the offer. I tell you what, when I return to Dubai in Oct, I will take you up on the offer of the drink, and will bring along 2 of the "payment-refusing Filipinas" with me. Deal?

Question for the more experienced Monger.

For some reason I feel the Kazakh/Russian girls are not up for business from Asians (subcontinent). My mates and I have had the same problem. We're not repulsive looking, just avg guys and we are sufficiently funded, but we have had no luck with them.

Has anyone experienced the same?

Sure there's plenty o' fish in the Dubai sea, but I like to have a more worldly experience.

Any help/advice would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Wiseblood 213].[/QUOTE]Wow WB that's actually quite deep!! Know the feeling lol.[/QUOTE]On another note am quite bored - anyone feels like going out tonight PM me, I've never met anyone from here before.

[QUOTE=Candyman74]Question for the more experienced Monger.

For some reason I feel the Kazakh/Russian girls are not up for business from Asians (subcontinent).[/QUOTE]May be its the way you look and talk to them. Usually the guys from subcontinent look in such a way that the girls feels very awkward. I used to feel the same but after some time I learnt the lesson. Be nice to them.

You can go to Astoria or Imperial Suites. At off-timings when the don't have more customers. Once they get to know, then they are very fine ladies.

All the best

[QUOTE=Candyman74]Question for the more experienced Monger.

For some reason I feel the Kazakh/Russian girls are not up for business from Asians (subcontinent). My mates and I have had the same problem. We're not repulsive looking, just avg guys and we are sufficiently funded, but we have had no luck with them.

Has anyone experienced the same?

Sure there's plenty o' fish in the Dubai sea, but I like to have a more worldly experience.

Any help/advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Hey Candyman,

You've been hanging out with the wrong crowd. Whenever I am in Dubai, Singapore, Sri Lanka or Hong Kong, and feel like a bit of white meat (which is not often as I prefer the Asian meat, especially the Thai tom yum yummy!) I score with the Russians or the CIS birds without any problems. Read my report on my last visit to Dubai where my mate and I scored with the 3 Russians (ok one was Ukranian) from the Premier. It helps to be smartly groomed and dressed (so that they can see that you are not one of the Paki or B'deshi street workers) and SMELL clean. Most sub-continent types have an odour which is a trademark (it is all the curry we eat) and that is a big turn off! Other than that, just be you and treat the woman like a lady. If you are butt ugly, then showing your wad of cash always helps.

[QUOTE=Candyman74]Question for the more experienced Monger.

For some reason I feel the Kazakh/Russian girls are not up for business from Asians (subcontinent). My mates and I have had the same problem. We're not repulsive looking, just avg guys and we are sufficiently funded, but we have had no luck with them.

Has anyone experienced the same?

Sure there's plenty o' fish in the Dubai sea, but I like to have a more worldly experience.

Any help/advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Its just attitude and how you carry yourself.
If your approach is not confident, you will get shot down quickly.

The stuff about how to dress and how you should smell should be obvious to you. Its common sense.

Also, try going out alone rather than in a group. This is less threatening to most girls.

I've seen a group of guys try to chat up 1 girl and usually try to get her to screw all of them for a group rate or some nonsense like that.

Most girls don't want that sort of thing because its simply dangerous.

I almost always get better girls when I'm alone. I hate it when I also have to deal with a wingman who does'nt know the game and screws up the whole battle plan.

Most of the time I just stand around with a drink and check out the band... putting out the vibe but not directly staring or showing too much interest in anyone at first. I look and even feel like I am not desperate for anything.

I always tell myself.. if nothing works out, you can always go home alone and get a good nights sleep or send a few SMS's out and see if any of the regulars bite.

That way I am in full control of what happens and I am never disappointed.

Then I start to notice girls will look at me trying to figure out why the hell I am alone and not talking or staring at any of them.

I do a discreet scan around the room, pick the one I like and make eye contact and smile. If she smiles back, cool. If not, wait a while and do the same with another.

I will signal for them to come over and they always do. Buy a drink to feel out the situation. If I get bad vibes, do the same with another one.

Its not hard and don't be too self conscious either or you will fuck it all up.

Go out into the wild alone and sharpen your skills that way first. It was an important part of my ninja training.

:)


WB

[QUOTE=Candyman74]Any help/advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There may be a bit of good old fashioned racism going on, but I think it I’s really about perceived risk. I know a lot of Chinese girls would never go with a Chinese guy, they consider it far too risky. I can’t speak for CIS but PRC’s tend to be wary of Pakistanis in particular, fear of LE connections? Are they on a religious mission to compromise the girl? Culturally a low level of respect for “loose women”? The attitude they experience from some taxi drivers reinforces these fears.

How do you counter the perception? I think Wiseblood’s advice of avoiding hunting in a pack is pretty sound. You probably need to build reputation too, when you do pull word will soon get around, good or bad, about how you behaved.

A good example was a couple of years ago an Indian friend and I were in the York, We bumped into a long time PRC acquaintance of mine who had a new protégé en tow, her first day out.. I went with my old acquaintance and my friend took the new girl. My girl was defiantly uneasy even though I had vouched for him, more so when she tried to call the new girl and her phone was off. In the end I called him and she spoke to the new girl and was happy. Next day my friend confided in me saying the girl was new, nervous and pretty clueless so he had been easy on her, it was not his greatest experience but he did not feel bad about himself. I know he is a decent guy and would have treated any girl well.

Next time we are in the York another PRC he was interested in was acting very coolly towards him. My acquaintance came over and had a few words in Mandarin to the girl, who loosened up straight away; he had few problems with the PRC there after that.

Confidence and presentation helps too. My friend always avoided the racial entrance tax by greeting the bouncer like his long lost pall and acting like he owned the place.

Just a brief word on racisim. I am mixed race portugese looks and noticed that at St. George's hotel, Diera, Tivioli bar it can be difficult to pick up an Uzbek-CIS as they mainly cater for arab clientle who do not mind paying large sums for a good night out from sex starved Saudi Arabia.

Ascot hotel is girl friendly but need original passport. I used it twice last June.

With royal Ascot hotel the night club did not allow me in as I was alone. The gate keeper allowed couples only. This can be risky as one picks one women from Imperial suites and then enters the club with full view of L. E. Opposite Royal Ascot. 100 Dhe made the difference on the second time around to Royal Ascot.

[QUOTE=Wiseblood 213]Its just attitude and how you carry yourself.
If your approach is not confident, you will get shot down quickly.

The stuff about how to dress and how you should smell should be obvious to you. Its common sense. Also, try going out alone rather than in a group. This is less threatening to most girls. I've seen a group of guys try to chat up 1 girl and usually try to get her to screw all of them for a group rate or some nonsense like that. Most girls don't want that sort of thing because its simply dangerous. I almost always get better girls when I'm alone. I hate it when I also have to deal with a wingman who does'nt know the game and screws up the whole battle plan.

Most of the time I just stand around with a drink and check out the band... putting out the vibe but not directly staring or showing too much interest in anyone at first. I look and even feel like I am not desperate for anything.
I always tell myself.. if nothing works out, you can always go home alone and get a good nights sleep or send a few SMS's out and see if any of the regulars bite.

That way I am in full control of what happens and I am never disappointed.

Then I start to notice girls will look at me trying to figure out why the hell I am alone and not talking or staring at any of them.

I do a discreet scan around the room, pick the one I like and make eye contact and smile. If she smiles back, cool. If not, wait a while and do the same with another.

I will signal for them to come over and the always do. Buy a drink to feel out the situation. If I get bad vibes, do the same with another one. Its not hard and don't be too self conscious either or you will fuck it all up. Go out into the wild alone and sharpen your skills that way first. It was an important part of my ninja training.

WB[/QUOTE]

WB, Great advice, have to admit use exactly the same tactics, and as you say the curiousity of the girls will get the better of them. Once one makes that move over to you, the rest follow pretty quickly afterwards. It's just a matter of patience and biding your time.
PS - Don't buy yourself too many drinks otherwise might become an expensive night if the performance does not match the chat :-)

Looking forward to my next visit in early November.

[QUOTE=Umbakali]Just a brief word on racisim. I am mixed race portugese looks and noticed that at St. George's hotel, Diera, Tivioli bar it can be difficult to pick up an Uzbek-CIS as they mainly cater for arab clientle who do not mind paying large sums for a good night out from sex starved Saudi Arabia.

Ascot hotel is girl friendly but need original passport. I used it twice last June.

With royal Ascot hotel the night club did not allow me in as I was alone. The gate keeper allowed couples only. This can be risky as one picks one women from Imperial suites and then enters the club with full view of L. E. Opposite Royal Ascot. 100 Dhe made the difference on the second time around to Royal Ascot.[/QUOTE]

The fact that the CIS girls want to fuck the cash rich Saudis don't make them racist. They are just greedy. If the Asian dude pulls out a wad of cash, say for instance, Anil Ambani or Mittal walked in, the CIS girls or any WG for that matter would be all over him like a blanket. WGs are not going to marry any one of us. They are not doing it because of the "great sex" we offer them. It is purely a business transaction for which they get paid. Money has no race! Show them the money and they will give you the honey!

[QUOTE=Wilts Boy]WB, Great advice, have to admit use exactly the same tactics, and as you say the curiousity of the girls will get the better of them. Once one makes that move over to you, the rest follow pretty quickly afterwards. It's just a matter of patience and biding your time.
PS - Don't buy yourself too many drinks otherwise might become an expensive night if the performance does not match the chat :-)

Looking forward to my next visit in early November.[/QUOTE]

About the drinks getting expensive...

If a girl asks for something like a double Vodka Red Bull or a Bull Frog that costs 50 AED a drink... I will buy her the first one and then seal the deal within the time it takes her to finish.

If she presses for another drink, I say you can have another at my place. If she insists on having one in the bar, I politely say no, and will even tell her I think its better if I find another girl.

If a girl orders a beer or a glass of wine and I am enjoying the evening, I don't mind paying for 2 or 3 drinks.
But only if its worth staying longer. Conversations in loud bars with WG's get annoying after 10 minutes because with the noise and thick accents, I can understand only about 20% of what she is trying to say to me. (Especially CIS and PRC girls)

I don't hang around too long once I've made up my mind who to go with.

Seemingly, the girls prefer this as well. Better to get a sure deal rather than some time waster that will buy them drinks the whole night and then just go home alone.

WB

[QUOTE=Rhino64]The fact that the CIS girls want to fuck the cash rich Saudis don't make them racist. They are just greedy. If the Asian dude pulls out a wad of cash, say for instance, Anil Ambani or Mittal walked in, the CIS girls or any WG for that matter would be all over him like a blanket. WGs are not going to marry any one of us. They are not doing it because of the "great sex" we offer them. It is purely a business transaction for which they get paid. Money has no race! Show them the money and they will give you the honey![/QUOTE]

I don't completely agree with that.
Yes they do it for the money. No, not all WG's are greedy.

Most of them don't like what they do and will work towards making a certain amount per month. (Their target)

Anything on top is a bonus. Targets are different depending on individual circumstances.

Some girls need to make 5K a month and are happy, others need to make 20K a month.

Some girls will reach their target for the month in a couple of weeks and will then stop, taking the rest of the month easy.

They are not all greedy. If they get what is enough for them, they are not necessarily hungry for more.

I have seen girls turn down every single guy that approached them only to push their friend forward instead. The friend probably needs the money more than her.

See.. they do have their own code of honour.

I often listen to lots of their stories and it's amazing how much they look out for their friends and help out when needed.

And something else, a large percentage of them will have 1 or 2 special customers. These are the ones they will gladly go to for free. They will cook, clean and be a good "wife" to these guys as well.
I am going through something like this right now in fact.

Why do they do this if all they want is money?

It's because they are capable of developing feelings for someone even in this line of work. Sometimes that leads to a real relationship, and then in rarer cases.. marriage.

Most don't work out, but a small percentage do and I know a couple of guys that met their wives that way and are extremely happy.

Your view on WG's is a bit one dimensional. There are other sides to consider as well, but only if you care enough to look.

Nothing wrong with not giving a damn either.
That way you can treat it as a business transaction and expect the same kind of treatment/ service in return.

I have recommended a few girls I know well to some other guys. With them I have always had a great time every time.
With other guys their experience might be different if the girl does not feel right with the guy and vice versa.

More often than not, it is because the guy acted like a tool.

Then I have to hear shit like "Why did you give me to that guy.. he's not nice like you.."; or "He was so boring I wanted to run away".
These things should be irrelevant to a girl if all she wants or cares about is money.

You are implying that just by spending big, you can somehow guarantee you get exactly the experience you want with any girl you choose.
Simply not true. There is more to it than just throwing around some cash.

Even with the most pro WG's you can never be guaranteed a GFE or great service if the vibe is not right.

I once saw a cute looking girl in Regal flatly turn down a guy that was offering to pay her 5000 for the night. The guy was determined, and offered her more and even pulled out some 1000 AED notes from his wallet and waived them in her face. She still said no.
She was not the best looking stunner in the place, but probably with the highest cuteness factor that night.

After about 20 to 30 minutes of trying, the guy left pissed off muttering something in Arabic.

I was watching the whole thing and when the guy left, she noticed me looking. I just gave her a friendly smile and a thumbs up sign.

She came home with me for 800 and turned out to be great company.
She did ask me in the bar how much I could give her, I said 800 and she immediately said ok and smiled.

When leaving, I saw the same guy an hour later with 3 tall CIS ladies that looked like trannies.

When I asked her why she turned down the other guy even though he was
offering to pay so much more than me, she said it was because the guy had a bad attitude and she simply did not like the way he spoke to her.

So, while I agree with you that money helps, it won't help too much if one is still a dick head.

Sure there are a lot of girls that will just go with whoever pays the most. Same number of girls that would rather go with someone for less but feel more comfortable with.

About this racism thing, there is truth to it but you can't really blame them.
They form their opinion based on what they hear and see and smell.

A lot of guys from the sub-continent behave like idiots and act like pervs because they cannot conceal their excitement and don't know how to behave around ladies, ruining it for the smarter cooler guys.

A lot of bad Arab guys will abuse girls and spoil it for the other nice Arab guys.

A lot of guys from the UK will get too drunk and seem to like embarrassing themselves... so then some girls will tell you... all UK men drink too much and all the people from UK here are the BAD ones... all the good ones stayed in England.

In a fili bar last weekend I saw an American guy make an ass of himself trying to feel up one of the very scared looking waitresses. She was almost in tears and when security got there, they had to more or less protect this guy from about 10 filipino guys that were ready to kick his redneck ass.

One smart Uzbek girl actually told me that after 3 years in Dubai she felt that basically Dubai is full of the worst/ stupidest people from every other country in the world. Generally, after having lived here so many years, I tend to agree with that.

See.. it's all the same. Don't take anything personally. You are an individual first, and you can decide what that means.

All down to how strong your MoJo is on the night.

And don't be a dick head.

:)

WB

[QUOTE=Wiseblood 213]

Typical fili bar. Never been there before but was invited by a couple of filipinas on Friday night.

(From JohnJohn Bob's recent report in the AD thread, I think these were the same two that you were trying to hook up with... Sorry! They called me.. not the other way around. :))[/QUOTE]WB,

I may be wrong but I seriously doubt that these two Filis are the same who stood me up. I had a lonely Friday night as I was not willing to get into a bidding war via SMS. Me and my damn principles!

But I'm curious if these two are the same...just give me initials of their first names and we will know.

JJB

So glad you said that, but unfortunately so true!

[QUOTE=Wiseblood 213]

One smart Uzbek girl actually told me that after 3 years in Dubai she felt that basically Dubai is full of the worst/ stupidest people from every other country in the world. Generally, after having lived here so many years, I tend to agree with that.

[/QUOTE]

Generally agree with your other sentiments as well. I am Sth Asian origin, and have had a regular Russian girl in Dubai for going on 3 years now...we met in Regal!!

See her whenever I am back in Dubai, she checks in with me. When I'm back home we keep in touch through sms, email, calls etc

Last time I was there for 3 days and she was with me throughout, tried to leave her some cash and she said that she would take it only if I intended never to be in touch with her again, I took it back.

Have been introduced to her sister/friends. Was travelling to doha and she met me there, I paid for the ticket and thats all.....I do take care of her financially, but it stopped being a business only relation a long time ago. How much would the average person pay to have a 5' 8" tall, blonde russian, size 6 to 8, speaking good english, to be with them for 4 days. Well I have not paid that over the almost 3 years I have known her...if thats business only, then i'm brad pitt [ I can assure you I am not ]

They have to make ends meet but they are also human, and if truth be told in most cases no worse people then us and mainly better..