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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]One of our members had success at Kamiyamada Onsen last year based on an article in Tokyo Reporter, so I was wondering if anyone had a chance to check out Kinshicho, based on this article: [url]http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2010/04/16/gaijin-shitamachi-kinshicho-a-low-cost-alternative-to-kabukicho/[/url] I won't get back to the country for about another month or so, but I was wondering if anyone had done any recon they would be willing to share.[/QUOTE]I am around Kinshicho occasionally, but haven't verified the article's contents regarding the reported recent cheap karaoke trend. However, if true, it would be a welcome development, as some (not all) hostessy and snack-type drink places there are traditionally overpriced to start with, even before the occasional attempted p4p upsell. Maybe it's my J-speaking white N. American gaijin novelty factor, but I've found that being a fixture around the neighborhood can be helpful in establishing yourself as a known face to build relationships with welcoming proprietors and the girls themselves. Not all places are overpriced, but apparently from what the article touches on, as well as my own observations over many years, there are some reasonable options to be had in an evolving Kinshicho scene. I don't care for Roppongi or hang out much in Kabukicho or Ikebukuro, but also don't exclusively see Kinshicho as a mongering destination, as I'm generally out and about on the east side of town for anyway, yet I suppose it's good to have at one's disposal if so inclined. Just take a stroll.I use Kinshicho more for an occasional alcohol or "more-or-less legit" massage resource, but fun can be had wherever you look if that's what you're out for, and I have many great memories and experiences on a personal and often-impromptu, not-necessarily p4p level, around Kinshicho that could never be replicated in cheesy Roppongi. At night, Kinshicho has a lot of touts (oddly, a large number of Pakistani or Bangladeshi ones, I'm guessing -- imo, who needs some guys like that to steer me to Eastern European women, which aren't my bag, baby) to navigate through on certain streets, which I find annoying, unnecessary and superfluous, but that's just me and I can't change that factor or character of the neighborhood, so I don't let it bother me and just stick to what I am familiar and feel comfortable with. Also worth noting are the back streets of the neighboring Kameido area, one stop east on the Sobu Line or a quick taxi ride.Nonetheless, I do suggest walking around both day and night to get an idea for yourself of the contrast in the neighborhood and what's on offer, but like anywhere else, use common sense and take care.

[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]Also worth noting are the back streets of the neighboring Kameido area, one stop east on the Sobu Line or a quick taxi ride.[/QUOTE]Really? I stayed in a hotel near the station at Kameido for a week, did not see anything interesting.Perhaps you can give me a direction?

[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]At night, Kinshicho has a lot of touts (oddly, a large number of Pakistani or Bangladeshi ones, I'm guessing -- imo, who needs some guys like that to steer me to Eastern European women, which aren't my bag, baby) to navigate through on certain streets, which I find annoying, unnecessary and superfluous, but that's just me and I can't change that factor or character of the neighborhood, so I don't let it bother me and just stick to what I am familiar and feel comfortable with. Also worth noting are the back streets of the neighboring Kameido area, one stop east on the Sobu Line or a quick taxi ride..[/QUOTE]I used to live in Kameido for a while. I can confirm there are a few options in Kameido. A few Chinese places. I once got FS for 10,00 at a place over there. However they had one girl and she was kind of boring to be honest. I also know there are a few non-chinese establishments there, but I recall them not allowing foreigners in.As for Kinshicho, I can also confirm action there. There are a lot of chinese massage girls around. I recall being harassed by a few Chinese girls from time to time. I also remember several touts in the area for korean massage places. In addition I remember a few pink salons/healths that were gaijin friendly assuming you spoke Japanese. However I never did more than inquire if I could visit the shop.Oh, and I also know that kinshico is home to a few KDH places.Anyways, this information is 2 years old, but I know there was action there when I lived around the area.

nothing really new.but got there again, and enjoyed it so much i couldn't even hear the loud techno music. where else can you have bbbj with pretty girls happy to give good service? there are even some girls who can speak english, or even french!and theres something perverse to peep other guys being blown off by the girl who blew you a few minutes ago.and i really like when you got out, when the tout asks you: "was it ok? " and he knows all customers say yes! and thats why its always full there!one day i should try to fully book it (kashi-kiri) with some "friends". that would be fun for sure!

I have always had good service from AM; I guess I've been lucky. But, speaking of negative reports, I had a really bad experience with Nasty Dolls recently. I called at the last minute one evening and was offered a girl named Isuka (sp?) that was not on the website. I was told she was the only one available and could come at 10pm. I had an early morning the next day so I opted for the 45 minutes service.She showed up on time but was only about a 5 in looks. She seemed to be wasting time chatting like she wanted to limit the time for action. I don't think she was going to take a shower with me until I asked her about it. Nothing exciting in the shower and we got started on the bed. At first, she refused BBBJ but reluctantly agreed. That said, her oral skills were worthless and I asked her to stop. CFS was even worse and she kept her legs at an angle to avoid penetration and was pretty much a dead fish. I did manage to finally pop but it was difficult. This was probably the worst service I have ever had in Japan. It was a good thing I only took the 45 minutes for 20k.I would definitely not repeat. Can anyone share any good experiences with Nasty Dolls recently?Just my POV.OAH[QUOTE=Herpes]Pleased to see a negative report on AM. I though that shop owned that forum.Actually some years ago, I had a very bad experience with them. Can't remember the name of the girl. Didn't even finish with her, she just laid on her back waiting, I just got out after 20mns out of 2 hours.I complained and the shop said they could offer a 50% discount (their take I guess) for the next time, but never had a chance to use them, and I lost the email trace for it, so it was a hefty loss.Though before that I had an excellent time with an AM girl named Maria which made many ISGers happy.I think AM is hit or miss, depends much if the girl likes you or not, and if shes in good mood or not on the day. Not worth the premium to Japanese or Korean DH services.Id like some people to comment on the Escort services advertised on Metropolis (like missplatinum, [url]http://classifieds.metropolis.co.jp/c,107.htm[/url])Or those frequently advertised in the paper edition.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tic Fleet]Really? I stayed in a hotel near the station at Kameido for a week, did not see anything interesting.Perhaps you can give me a direction?[/QUOTE]Well, Kameido is a busy, densely built-up area, so it's entirely understandable you might have overlooked what was actually located not that far away. I haven't been there recently nor super-often, so could be wrong on the exact details, but I think I recall the interesting neighborhood worth checking out at night as being on the north side of the station, amid the nomiya and not far from a couple of love hotels. Now, looking at Google Maps, a good landmark for your nighttime stroll that springs to mind is the area around the Jonathan's restaurant next to the Lawson's convenience store (just look for the red J for Jonathan's next to the Lawson's logo just north of Kameido Station on the Google Maps satellite photo setting -- enter 東京都江東区亀戸 in the search field at [url]http://maps.google.co.jp[/url]). Everything I was thinking of is within a few minutes' radius of that point. One good Chinese massage place, for instance, is right around the corner from the Jonathan's, kitty-corner from a Philippine snack bar, located on the second floor of a building and only open from 9 p.m. to 3 a.m (at least it was a year or two ago, when I got two CBJ shots for 13,000, including shower...that arrangement was off-the-record, as I suppose one-shot was standard, but since we had time remaining and the lady kindly took a liking to me, she made a shhhh motion over her lips, saying she wanted to kindly give me a second CBJ -- without any prompting from me! -- but since it was a curtained-room-type arrangement, she said mama-san wouldn't approve so we would have to be quiet. That said, on the second CBJ, I 69'd and DATY'd her, which she appreciated. The place also offered a 10,000 "non-sexy" massage option, if I recall correctly).At any rate, this info might not be 100% current, but should provide a good starting point for a Kameido area excursion.

Brothers,I've just arrived into Tokyo for the very first time and am looking very much forward to tasting some nice local ladies! I'm staying at Shibya area and was planning to visit Grimpeur as have red so many nice reviews about it. However, when I today logged into Grimpeur website, it re-directs into l-s66.com. The website looks very similar but with google translation, I can see that the system has changed as of yesterday; now you need to call them and meet at some lockers...Do you still feel this being safe? I'm also worried that with my zero Japanese skills, I will not be able to get anywhere if calling them...Need to try tonight.Any suggestions about other places with good quality girls and FS service close by Shibya are welcome.

[QUOTE=Crazyofbutts]Do you still feel this being safe? I'm also worried that with my zero Japanese skills, I will not be able to get anywhere if calling them...Any suggestions about other places with good quality girls and FS service close by Shibya are welcome.[/QUOTE]The place has changed, there is no more walkin facilityIf you have read the forum it specifically says (like 10 times) that you have to speak Japanese to use this. If you can call a taxi service and tell them how to get to your place and when to pick you up and where to bring you or order delivery italian food in Japanese then you are qualified. If not you are wasting your time and pissing off everyone.take the Yamanote line to Shinjuku and go to Hinomaru or Asia feeling or wonder around kabukicho like you are looking for something and an english speaking Chinese or Korean tout (not black) wiil tune into you and off you go.

Thanks Nampa Guy for your comments. I have been spending hours to read the forum but I guess I thought I could have walked in and managed to get service... Anyways, will take your advice and go to Shinjuku or will try some other suggestions from the forum.Cheers,CoB[QUOTE=Nampa Guy]The place has changed, there is no more walkin facilityIf you have read the forum it specifically says (like 10 times) that you have to speak Japanese to use this. If you can call a taxi service and tell them how to get to your place and when to pick you up and where to bring you or order delivery italian food in Japanese then you are qualified. If not you are wasting your time and pissing off everyone.take the Yamanote line to Shinjuku and go to Hinomaru or Asia feeling or wonder around kabukicho like you are looking for something and an english speaking Chinese or Korean tout (not black) wiil tune into you and off you go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crazyofbutts]I'm staying at Shibya area and was planning to visit Grimpeur as have red so many nice reviews about it. However, when I today logged into Grimpeur website, it re-directs into l-s66.com. The website looks very similar but with google translation, I can see that the system has changed as of yesterday; now you need to call them and meet at some lockers...[/QUOTE]Interesting that they decided to change the system, but I suppose there could be a number of reasons for that. Personally, I'll probably just take the other option and arrange my own love hotel after booking an appointment. Standing in front of the lockers by the Lawson's would make me a bit nervous, mostly out of the faint possibility of running into someone I know while waiting for the girl to arrive. The service was reliable when they were Grimpeur and I assume that wouldn't change.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words]Went to Korean massage place called Himawari ([url]http://www.bihaku-dh.com/[/url]) the other day. It's in Okachimachi (between Ueno and Akihabara) and fairly easy to find. Here's a Google Street View of the building (the door's on the right side) -- [url]http://bit.ly/cfIe9j[/url] . Just push 501 and call on on the receiver on the wall and shortly thereafter the door will open. Go up to room 501 and ring the bell.It's fairly straight forward. I was given some tea and explained the system. I was told the 7000 option on the website doesn't include any "extras" and is just a normal massage, so I went with the 10000 for 60 minutes option. Shortly thereafter was guided to a 'room' with a nice enough looking Korea girl waiting for me. She wasn't all that chatty, but nice enough and took off my clothes and guided me to the shower. She showered me, which was nice, paying special attention to down there. Dried off and back to the room for a mediocre 10 minute massage. She left the room for a few minutes and came back topless and flipped me over. From there it was a CBJ for awhile and then -- without any suggestion from me -- she just got on her back and spread her legs. So I guess that FS is pretty much par for the course here. After we finished up, another shower, more tea and then I dressed up and was on my way.Fairly simple, really, and relatively cheap at 10000 for FS.[/QUOTE]Visited there on Wed. Noon. Picked the 60min 10,000 course. The girl I has was a bit chubby, but quite chatty and GFE. After the massage, she went out and come back, then undress herself. Give me quite a decent touch w/ her tits and tongue. Then she flipped me over and give me BBJ for a while. Then w/o asking she put a condom on me and slip into her pussy for FS.The place was quite clean except the Korean music played was quite annoying.

Well, walking around Shibuya dougenzaka area, a place that used to offer many opportunities. It seems that there is now nothing. The touts don't even approach anymore. Fuck this boring city.

Yes, it is interesting that Grimpeur changed the system...I wonder why myself. I hope foreigners aren't shut out now. Has anybody used them since the change to 待ち合わせ／デリヘルス system? [QUOTE=Llewelyn]Interesting that they decided to change the system, but I suppose there could be a number of reasons for that. Personally, I'll probably just take the other option and arrange my own love hotel after booking an appointment. Standing in front of the lockers by the Lawson's would make me a bit nervous, mostly out of the faint possibility of running into someone I know while waiting for the girl to arrive. The service was reliable when they were Grimpeur and I assume that wouldn't change.[/QUOTE]

Went today to the infamous Hitop. Aat first I thought I would be refused since I'm black but it worked. 8k down went through the hoops with Mari. Multiple pos cim.Repeat? Yes.Saw also the Chinese massage girls 10k. Went the other way so overpriced. Janjan report tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Basementcello]Yes, it is interesting that Grimpeur changed the system...I wonder why myself. I hope foreigners aren't shut out now. Has anybody used them since the change to 待ち合わせ／デリヘルス system?[/QUOTE]As a matter of fact, I just used them earlier today and had no problems setting up an appointment, and I'm a white guy with Nihongo somewhere between 4-kyu and 3-kyu. That said, I used them a number of times when they were Grimpeur so the familiarity factor could possibly have had something to do with it.On a different note, I ended up having to stand by those lockers after all. Being Saturday, pretty much all the rabuhos were either full or wouldn't allow a single guy in. Had to arrange to meet the girl by the lockers, and it just so happened that three cops were hanging around by there, which made me more than a little nervous. Not that what I was doing was illegal, of course; just pangs of guilt from a Christian upbringing I suppose.