Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am not sure how to reply to this, you obviously already have a strong opinion about me (even thoughI am not sure we know each other).Cheers[/QUOTE]Sorry if I offended you.I enjoy your posts and information very much, which is why I was surprised by your comments.But I do disagree. I think that only the HiSo upper class look down on a P4P girl trying to keep her family alive. Most Thais understand poverty, lack of education and "no money" all too well. Sad state of affairs for the country IMO.Cheers

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]I waited for about one hour from 3 30 to 4 30. But I did not find the whole sideline lineup attarctive, actually the whole line up was quite old. Some of the girls obviously over 30. I went to check up stairs, but was not impressed by any of the 10 girls. [/QUOTE]I am amazed. I have never noticed the lineup at Utopia to be particularly old. The girls I took were low 20s about 21 to 23 year olds. I'm not so keen on Nataree's teenagers (some probably under 18). Utopia gets very busy but mostly Asian customers.Attached is a pic of my recent favourite who has a great body and very GFE. Straight 9s accross the board in my scoring. After a day I might switch pics to hide the eyes. Is she to your taste or do you go for a completely different look? Give us an example pic would be nice.Links to posts with pics of girls I had with hot bodies:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723406&highlight=versailles#post723406[/url][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=687095&highlight=Emmanuelle#post687095[/url][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=661968&highlight=Emmanuelle#post661968[/url]For her face see B19 on the web site What is your opinion?How can it be that only you cannot find a good looking girl or a good performance (I often get both)?And to be honest I consider myself to be somewhat of a pessimist.

I have always thought a good way to finish a massage for a big guy, which I am, is to hop back on the table after the shower and get a good powder in the crotch, genital, armpit area. But have not found how to ask for this. However this trip, needing a haircut and finding a recommendation for Friends Massage on Soi 19, I decided on an oil massage as well. At the end of a good 1 hour oil massage, she asked if I wanted an HJ. I said I did not (A few of us older guys are not up to multiple pops a day, and I want to save what I have.) But a good massage of the testicles, crotch, cock and connecting areas is very nice. I told the woman, Noi, what I wanted and we spent 30 minutes focusing on what I liked. I got hard, and she said finishing was always an option. But I passed. She finished and I said what I would really also like, after I shower, was for her to dry me well in the same area and then apply powder. She agreed and I left the shop ready for walking in BK's hot weather, feeling very comfortable. I did not experience the rash I, and others, often get. I was so happy I went back the next day. She had purchased "Prickly Heat" menthol powder and we did it again. And it was even better. I said others may be interested but she needed to know what they wanted, so we decided to call it a "Sumo" massage. My tip was the same as if I had a HJ, but it was much more enjoyable.I recommend it, and Noi, highly.

In my opinion RCA Knight does raise some valid points.From my point of view Japanese girls are hands-down the cock sucking champs. It goes along with the overall great customer service attitude that prevails in Japan.I have never partaken in a Chinese sauna that offers all the great services described by RCA Knight, but certainly hope to. However, I think these girls are probably very well instructed by their employers as to the service standard they must adhere to. I have never received any such service from a Chinese free lancer.Then you have the generally poor service attitude of the Koreans. I am in no rush to return there any time soon.Finally, Thai girls seem to have a more laid-back attitude about service and so do the establishments they work for. There seems to not be any set standard for customer service. I can live with the generally lower standard of service because the appeal to me is the wide variety of choice available and reasonable pricing. Also I have never really encountered any old looking service providers in well established Bangkok MPs.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Finally, Thai girls seem to have a more laid-back attitude about service and so do the establishments they work for. There seems to not be any set standard for customer service. I can live with the generally lower standard of service because the appeal to me is the wide variety of choice available and reasonable pricing. Also I have never really encountered any old looking service providers in well established Bangkok MPs.[/QUOTE]Some of the BKK Soapies seem to have the girls trained to provide certain standard of service. you notice it after taking several girls and all seeming to provide something that many other soapies don't.Utopia is one such place where the service in the bath seems to reach an exceptional standard with both girls I tried. I don't think it was just coincidence. Possibly was coincidence that both were very GFE.There are a few places that provide body to body massage including BJ in the bath. Copacabana was just one of them.Of course it will never be that all girls are absolutely equal.

Hello, guysI don't post too much are I am more a "tourist" (even if I come few time a year in asia and mostly in Thailand)So compared to the experts and expats, I always think that I don't have too much interesting stuff to add to the forum.And also my english is very weak.By another I like mongering but these days I like also to pick "regular" lady in the streets, shops and so on, it s rather easy in Thailand even if it's a little bit slower than usual business. You can easily change girl every day for free and a lot of fun and adventure. Mobile phone in that case is so helpfulBut to be back to the main business, one location I like to go is Sazanka (soi22, washigton square) the korean style? Salt massage amd so on my type of girl is small amd skinny and I found out the one I like: miss TOMO mumber 30 I like very much her style and spec, slim, perfect bottom, half thai and half japanese (she says she is not, but she look like too much). She always makes me come really madly even when I have a lot action. She is very good in what she is doing. So I use to book her by phone.But last time I forgot to do it and I walk in directly. The papasan said she was working and booked for almost the day! I was not surprised as she is a little star in her job, but when the day after I booked her by phone, and so I talk to her she say worked really for a low quantity of customer certainly due to that the papasan didm't like her. She didn't knew the reason but she told me to phone directly to her mobile to check the truth the next time I will like she take good care of my health.So guys if you have more information's about this cute girl, please share and post all the information's here. Anyway I will follow the user manual and phone both to sazanka and to her as she advise me.Happy hunting guysAnd thank you all of you for all that good knowledge.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

another major concern about thai soapie scene is the extreme high cost and its level of quality and service simply do not match. its quite hard now to find a young, nice body, friendly cutie with good service now in thailand, if there is one like this, she most likely in the sideline to supersideline categories. i would think she would sell for at least 3000 up to 8000 or so. in these few recent years, the girls that i considered doable were almost in the 4000-7000 supersideline range and only exist in a few major shops. but simply in thailand now the cost does not bring any guarantee. but this is not true in other nations. after roaming all over world hunting for delicacy, i can confirm that thailand quality meat is the most expensive in all third world nations. and with passable sideline price tag like 3000-7000, this price almost exceeds even the most expensive first world country japan. in japan, health club or image club and all other variations, price start from 12000 to 15000 yen for about 1 hour. not cheap, but the quality of girls is top of the world, the extend of service even surpass china saunas. i am always so astonished how a beautiful doll like this will go that far, long bbbj, all body lick, ball sucking, mouth ejaculation, cum swallowing, fingering ass, anal licking, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url], vibe, all other imaginable acts, and perform them as they real enjoy it. in my 50 or so sessions in tokyo hotel health, image club, soaplands, ect, i did not even had one single miss, 100% success rate, so many sessions even astonished me how far these beatiful japanese girls would go in pleasing customers. even its 12000 or 15000 yen or up to 20000 yen a session with some extras, every yen is worth it. also the memory lasts. these third world thai sideliners many times charge exceed that of japanese health, can you believe it but its true, and the quality, service, selection, and gf are not even close to the first world most expensive country and world's second biggest economy's young beauties who work just to buy a few more chanel or prada bags. i am really disappointed again and again every time making transit thru thailand, and try again and again, still cost/quality/selection/service can not match japan health or china saunas by far far margin. japan and china are not these wide open international market, there are domestic-oriented meat markets. it takes some learning, observation, trials and errors, and some basic communication skill to crack open these 2 markets. but the reward is amazing. about china saunas, ask these zuhai, dongguang or chang ping experts, they will tell you all about it. you will know how 1000-1500 baht or so will get you in china. thailand now is even losing the edge to other nearby third worlds in cost/quality performance. in my opinion, now i would rank definitely indonesia, myanmar, laos, over thailand in overall value for money. in these wide open international meat markets like indonesia, philippines, laos, myanmar, and thailand, thailand certainly has become way to expensive and the quality and service has gone way down hill since the 90's.its price tags for the top ends now may exceed that of first world nations. this is just my little observation for thailand after been hunting all over the world including thailand for 15 years, if things don't improve a bit here, i think many other hunters are discovering other destinations, especially china, where nowadays there are tons and tons of hard core sex tourists as compared to 10 or 15 years ago hardly any.

[QUOTE=GourmetBob1]<cut> But a good massage of the testicles, crotch, cock and connecting areas is very nice. I told the woman, Noi, what I wanted and we spent 30 minutes focusing on what I liked. I got hard, and she said finishing was always an option. But I passed. <cut>[/QUOTE]Any massage of cock and balls is normally considered sexual and I would consider it sexual too even if I wouldn't want a hand job.Reminds me of Bill Clinton saying he didn't think a BJ was actually sexual relations.:)If it wasn't sexual at all I would say your post should be moved to the General Thread as this is primarily a sex forum. ;) No, just kidding.Now what can be more frustrating than getting a nice non-sexual massage from a pretty girl with a hot body and you are just dying to get your hands onto her tits and down her panties? :( I'm going to stick to the naughty massage venues. I just do not like to lie still and do nothing. But each to their own thing.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]Its quite hard now to find a young, nice body, friendly cutie with good service now in Thailand, if there is one like this, she most likely in the sideline to supersideline categories. I would think she would sell for at least 3000 up to 8000 or so.[/QUOTE]Price is not proportional to good looks or service in my opinion. Obviously Thailand is not the cheapest but far cheaper than Europe at 50 Euros min per 30 mins for a reasonably good girl at an FKK (+ extra for establishment entry cost). China is obviously far cheaper but I wouldn't know where to find pretty girls based on when I was in Guangzhou. Perhaps I was in the wrong place.Chinese round faces, flat bums and straight hips seem common.I had a reasonably nice girl with good performance for 1300 Baht but gave a little extra tip at Bangkok Cozy.Its quite clear that paying really big Baht is just a waste of money.You have made no comment on girls pics I have posted nor given any indication what a pretty girl looks like in your view. But feel free to say they are ugly if you think so.This makes it very hard for any of us to understand what you are on about, other than your requirements sound more into the pornstar category and its probably hard to find georgous pornstars in Thailand.BTW, I have seen a few Japanese Porn movies, but they don't do anything for me. The girls are usually not exceptionally pretty, and they give more the impression of being forced to do it rather than enjoying it. But Japan does have exceptionally pretty girls.Akiko Wakabayashi who starred in James Bond "You only Live Twice" (as the one who got poisoned) when I was just a young one, made a lasting impression on me, and probably first convinced me that I was really keen on asian women. [url]http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-girls/akiko-wakabayashi.php?id=010[/url][url]http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-girls/akiko-wakabayashi.php?id=011[/url][url]http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-girls/akiko-wakabayashi.php?id=014[/url]

Mr. Licker's pic are quite okay, but as for me its still not the top delicacy. You are luckier than me I guess, in Thailand, in and out of Thailand recent years, I haven't really have any memorable ones. But if you started Thailand 10 or more years back, then you will know the difference in service atitude and availability of cuties in most shops. This is the thing I am mostly disapointed that only 10 years makes a such a difference. Not to mention price also doubled or tripled or even more in these cuties but gf and atitude are down down as compared to 10 years ago. But I think its the over over abundance of punters is the reason that ruined the market.I think China will eventually turned spoiled. But its a huge huge country with never ending supply of meat, so it may take a few more decades. Certainly Myanmar, laos, Cambo, Indo, also have thier changes in service/quality/cost in recent 10 years but its not as severe as Thailand. Brasil is the most constant price/quality wise, 10 years ago, 40-60USD can get a quite a nice cutie, in northeast maybe 20USD less, pretty much all with gf and fun atiude, 10 yaers later, the pricing stay pretty much the same and the atitude as well.Not true Chinese girls have flat ass. There are all types of Chinese girls with all type of faces, ranging from the southeast Asian type, all the way to eskimo Russian features, I personally think Northern China women in Dalian, Chingdao all the way to Harbin areas are really sexy and hot with long slender legs, so many tall and slender ones that fit my taste. And lots of freebies around if you put some efforts.Next trip here to Thailand, I will again look for the nice body cutie with gf service. Life is a never ending search for the perfect meat. I will hit the local scene again for a change. Hope for a new discovery. Have a week off, on the way to Japan, this time I will check out the infamous Sapporo Susukino areas with a JP co-worker. Will report my findings.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]But if you started Thailand 10 or more years back, then you will know the difference in service atitude and availability of cuties in most shops. This is the thing I am mostly disapointed that only 10 years makes a such a difference. Not to mention price also doubled or tripled or even more in these cuties but gf and atitude are down down as compared to 10 years ago. But I think its the over over abundance of punters is the reason that ruined the market.[/QUOTE]I started Mongering in Thailand 15 plus years ago. Perhaps the fishbowl seemed to have more pretty girls back then. What I thought was realy good looking back then is now ordinary looking. I have checked my photos from 15 years ago. We get fussier in old age.It could be that more of the pretty girls are getting lucrative jobs in Japanese clubs these days.As for service, I don't see any marked difference other than bare back was more common in the old days. Not many soapy girls were pornstars back then and they still aren't. But still get plenty of GFEs now and had a some duds back then too. I think its just that our requirements to feel totally satisfied can increase over the years too.There is of course no doubt that prices have gone up a lot.I can't remember the original price at the Thermae coffee shop. I do remeber taking a girl from Soi Cowboy for the night for 400 Baht and that wouldn't have been the cheapest price. Had a lot of problems over several days with trying to get her to leave causing wasted time. Came back to my Hotel and knocked on the door uninvited while I had another girl inside.Others will remember the days when could get a girl in Chiangmai for 40 Baht, I bet. I do agree there are lots of very ordinary looking girls in Soapies. I can look at a big array of girls at Catherine or Nataree and stuggle to find a really pretty one too. The problem can be that the few pretty ones are busy.I once spotted an absolute stunner at Utopia No. '000' but never spotted her again. She must be always busy or not coming to work sometimes. But at least I know the number and could book her one day.You have to spend time to spot them and then note down the numbers so you can book them when they become free sometimes.I Have very high priced girls at Amsterdam, Delilah and others not to give good service.In many shops the "models" are high priced but not prettier than the side line girls. They usually have reasonably good figures though, I suspect.I think that RCA Knight is going for girls that are too expensive and thereby getting the lazier girls who don't perform.When I consider Brazil or China, I go to their Photo Galleries. I am then suprised by how few good lookers are appearing there.There should be stunning Brazilians there but many look ordinary.I think many good looking P4P Brazilians may be getting bigger money overseas. Had some nice ones in Germany.They are possibly best kissers in the world.

In a slightly diff locale now, Westin Suk, all good usin' miles. Anyway exploration of some MPs I haven't tried. Instructions courtesy of G. 1st stop Oranges. Look at book. Pet- papa says 18 yo, 41 kg, what could go wrong. Just to be sure I ask to see & do. Seems doable 2 hr oil please. Up we go at 4 floors. Have had sucksess in past just laying the 1500b on table making it obvious I like special. The massage was inordinately frustrating as she'd lightly rub back, upper then lower, upper then lower, wtf. After maybe 20 min I roll over signal her to take it off, she asks if I want special signals 1500 I point out $, wtf! She showers, slowly, dims lights way to low which I'm not havin & have her return to higher setting. Well she lays down beside me & snuggles up, could be good. I unwrap her towel & discover. The antidote to viagra. Probably the most ravaged I've layed beside, saggin tits & gut, almost lost my b'fast. I get up & out asap. F that I'm going for a proven track record right, no more chances, Aviva here I cum. En route swing by LL to wie ghets G, he is occupied by 2 others, maybe other ISGers who I see on the street shortly afterward but I don't talk I'm on a mission. I opt to not interupt G as I'm sure his business is demanding so I pass thru not knowing when/if to bring champagne. I digress, at Aviva I tell Mama May bring 1 of my favs we go all day, good in past. She says til 11pm 4500b total, more or less a common rate I encounter. Back to Westin we go, executive lounge is great for eating & drinking & we do. Then room time. Reluctant performer but I figure maybe quantity will make up for quality. We do the deed I get fair back massage whilst she watches tube. Then happy hour at lounge we get our drinks on I think maybe I'll become more handsome to her the more she drinks as is oft reported. Back to room good buzz on, time to get clothes of right. Wrong. Now 7ish & she needs to go get a new cell phone battery. I object point out agreement was til 11, to no avail she bolts. I call shop wtf May, blah blah, blah she doesn't think this should be a problem, but I do. So I have had good luck there mostly but think I ought to get a freebie or swear off Aviva what say you guys? Anyway she said we'll talk today we'll see.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

RCA Knight does have the advantage and perspective of apparently traveling around Asian countries on business and being guided by local business contacts to a certain extent. This is extremely helpful in Japan where the lions share of the P4P industry is closed to non-Japanese.I do take issue with the statement that full service is available at 10 to 12,000 Yen in Japan. That price will fetch you a 40 minute blow job from an attractive provider, with the possibility of intercourse if you are lucky, charming or slip her extra money. 30 to 70,000 is more the price to get the full treatment with a really lovely specimen.Bangkok MPs still offer far better value for the money in my opinion.I certainly agree that becoming older often brings us more spendable income and a desire to experience something out of the ordinary, than when we were 18 years old and whacking off to the Photo Gallery pictures 5 or 6 times per week.

I was looking at a few old turned yellow travel diary from 10-15 years back. The ink has faded, I saw I wrote sometime in earlier 90's on some trips to BKK, I wrote I liked Mirage soapie and Cleopatra. It was before the Tarawadee, Amsterdam, Poseidon, Colonze era, I checked my travellogue, I found the price, 1200-1500 for lounge girls,(I guess I mean sideline), 900-1200 for normal,(I think I mean the fishbowl). Also wrote Mirage has so many cuties, paid 3 visits in 5 days, Cleopatra beautiful lounge girl, paid 1500, ect ect, So for the same type of high end girls, I am right price has gone double to triple, Thats pretty big jump. The same sideliners would cost from at least 3000-5000 these days.Also found some notes on another travelogue on Nana Plaza, I think its also back early 90's, I did not write the year, I wrote girls dance naked, some very cute ect 500-700 bahts to ST. Also wrote ladyboys like me everywhere, want to come for free, haha.I also found some notes on Brasil as well, in the same early 90's diary, I wrote, beautiful young girls in a boate(night club)on Rua Augusta, Sao Paulo, Paid her 50USD for a session to my hotel, ect ect, Had a girl from a boate in Florianoplois, gave her 50USD for whole night, she very happy, I wrote. So Brasil price stays pretty much the same in 15 years or so. May be only up 10-20 percent or so.About Japan, actually japan scene is getting cheaper than before, because of firece competiton, and bad economy, there are always discount as well, and health and image club, pink salon, ect ect, theoretically they do not have intercourse on the menu, by in reality, if the girl does not dislike you, they mostly likely will give, so actually a cheap 12000 yen afternoon session with a super cutie with all the imaginable acts, and end in intercouse is a very good deal, to me a better deal than the hard to expect Thai semi-cutie sideliner, even without intercourse at JP health, the excitement from all these sex acts are already satisfying.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]Also wrote Mirage has so many cuties, paid 3 visits in 5 days, Cleopatra beautiful lounge girl, paid 1500, ect ect, So for the same type of high end girls, [/QUOTE]Its rumoured that many of the Mirage girls have now gone to Selene. I'll try to check on Selene again in a few weeks.New Cleopatra has closed, but I hadn't gone there for nearly 3 years anyway. Did seem to go downhill.Most side-line girls are in range 2000-3000 Baht with only a few places higer than that. I have never paid more than 3900 (Utopia) for sideliners. High priced "models" rarely looked any better. Once was tempted by an Amsterdam girl at 5100 Baht but thought better of it and had a girl at La Defense for about half the price.Actually I have never ever had a really great time at a soapy with any girl costing over 3900 Baht, that was good enough to make me do it again. Repeated several times with a Bangkok Cozy girl for just 1300 Baht. A good price still exists.So given we have both had not so great experiences with high priced models, the advice is obvious. Stay away from Thai girls in the ridiculous price brackets. e.g. If at Poseidon or Copacabana or Plaza, don't even venture upstairs. Its not going to be worthwhile, so I don't bother anymore.Alternatively, if other Countries do it for you, give the Thai scene away. Perhaps you have grown out of it.After experiencing the fantastic girls in German FKK, I quickly gave away mongering in Australia completely.