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Do you think that German girls are slave too? There are a lot of them in these clubs.

Anyway in my country (ITA) , cause of the laws that forbid prostitution, there is seriously the problem of slavery, exploitation, and violence on the girls that works (illegally).

I think that in a country like Germany, where laws seems working right, some heavy situations are less than we think, and I seriously hope so.

In some club where I had been staying chatting a lot with the girls, at the end of the business, a lot of time I've heard the same story: I want to save some money for buy my own house,

I need some money for the holiday, change the car, get married (your boyfriend and future husband knows what you are doing?). Well probably the most of the time, behind there is a smart boyfriend.

That say "make money and give it to me, so I buy our house and prepare for the marriage", and simply an easy girl that believe in that.

[QUOTE=Casey69; 1322003]I have never felt that a girl in an FKK was forced to work.

Most girls seem to be enjoying themselves, not only for the money but also the relative relaxed life.[/QUOTE]That's what you should experience as a guest to the club.

atArtic: Go visit some clubs and see for yourself. I am not into an ideological theoretical discussion. Neutron Flux's description is right to the point.

HB

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1321763]If there is hard evidence, you should do something about it, sure, and actually I quite disagree with the line Batou took (although as others have pointed out, there's a high probability she was BSing).[/QUOTE]This is something I have been thinking allot about, and I still do not know what the right thing to do would be, but I am not proud of my self for doing nothing.

So my question is, what do you guys think I should have done? Have anyone of you been in a similar situation, if so how did you handle it? And if this is indeed a was scam, than I can't have been the first victim.

I still believe it was real because here weird behavior, she showed me all kinds of emotions, from scared to happy and smiling to almost crying. She was all over the place, hard to explain.

She did have a DKNY watch and a IPhone, when I asked about the watch, she told me it was a gift from the "boyfriend", he gave it to her when he showed her off to his buddies.

I am trying to book well known ETAP hoteles but ACCOR web site shows them as Ibis Budget with remark "Ex- Etap".

Service is still as at ETAPs, or front desk as st Ibis? What changes have been made?

Thanks

I like cim finish. But some girls promise to do it, then pull away. What do you do.

Are you better off haveing a session shortly after arriving or waiting an hour or so to get yourself acclimated. It seems like after you bat away the first ten the others seem to loose interest.

[QUOTE=Jymondor;1322568]I am trying to book well known ETAP hoteles but ACCOR web site shows them as Ibis Budget with remark "Ex- Etap". Service is still as at ETAPs, or front desk as st Ibis? What changes have been made?[/QUOTE]I believe it's just a change to the branding, not the service. Management believes the Ibis name is better known than ETAP and wants to capitalise on that. Similarly, the former "All Seasons" hotels are becoming "Ibis Styles". So there are now three sorts of Ibis.

I would expect rates to be between etap and ibis levels and it seems they may have redecorated the old etaps to make them look more modern and so charge a higher rate.

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1322568]I am trying to book well known ETAP hoteles but ACCOR web site shows them as Ibis Budget with remark "Ex- Etap".

Service is still as at ETAPs, or front desk as st Ibis? What changes have been made?

Thanks[/QUOTE]No change at all, except the "new" name. Same check-in, same front desk service as before. At least in Hamburg, Ratingen, Willich and Köln.

My guess it's a move just to get a brand that they have full control over and that they can develop and aim at the right customer group.

Go to etap (dot) com, and you will come to a homepage that is promoting some "power system software". Check out the colours, the logo, the typography and the struckture of the homepage. Either the hotel chain or the software company are "ripping" the other off (or they are cooperating).

I hope that the change will not affect the price level in the wrong direction.

T

[QUOTE=Katinka;1322586]I like cim finish. But some girls promise to do it, then pull away. What do you do.[/QUOTE]Spend the 50 euro you just saved on the next girl. .

[QUOTE=Katinka;1322589]Are you better off haveing a session shortly after arriving or waiting an hour or so to get yourself acclimated. It seems like after you bat away the first ten the others seem to loose interest.[/QUOTE]Have a session when you see the girl you want to go with, whether it be within minutes or an hour after you arrive. If no one asks you then walk up to whoever you want and ask her. She isn't going to say no and girls really appreciate guys who ask.

[QUOTE=Katinka;1322589]Are you better off haveing a session shortly after arriving or waiting an hour or so to get yourself acclimated. It seems like after you bat away the first ten the others seem to loose interest.[/QUOTE]All depends on how your body feels after your journey to get to the club of your choice. I've landed before and done back to back sessions without any problem, then again I've also walked into Oase and hit the lounge chair by the jacuzzi only to wake up 2 hours later. If your extremely tired from the journey, get some rest so that first 50 euro's doesn't go to waste.

[QUOTE=Batou75; 1322333]This is something I have been thinking allot about, and I still do not know what the right thing to do would be, but I am not proud of my self for doing nothing.

So my question is, what do you guys think I should have done? Have anyone of you been in a similar situation, if so how did you handle it? And if this is indeed a was scam, than I can't have been the first victim.

I still believe it was real because here weird behavior, she showed me all kinds of emotions, from scared to happy and smiling to almost crying. She was all over the place, hard to explain.

She did have a DKNY watch and a IPhone, when I asked about the watch, she told me it was a gift from the "boyfriend", he gave it to her when he showed her off to his buddies.[/QUOTE]Batou,

I doubt you will find good answers here. And I'm not going to preach you any due course of action either. I stated that, based on your description, I would've handled things differently, and I'm quite certain of that but after all, all that we have is a few lines of text on the internet. So guess who's best qualified to decide what to do. You know the options. It's good to seek advice but at some point you just have to make your own choices.

But simply running away when a problem unfolds is hardly ever a good option. Many people are doing that many times, because they're lazy or do not have the balls and we have all been guilty of that at some point. He who is without sin throw the first stone. But. Your sins of the past will stay and haunt you.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1322773]Spend the 50 euro you just saved on the next girl.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is what Katinka meant. I think Katinka is asking when he has undertaken to perform a CIM that the girl takes her mouth off his cock as he comes so her mouth is not staying on his cock to his absolute completion. She still demands the 50 euro.

[QUOTE=Katinka;1322586]I like cim finish. But some girls promise to do it, then pull away. What do you do.[/QUOTE]Don't see these girls again!

[quote=london traveller;1322937]don't see these girls again![/quote]i go again with them and the next time the minute i want to cum i control my face, make sure the pressure builds up like crazy and then make the ahh sound and squiny face (this is all pre planned in my head) and when they try to pull away again i quickly hold their head to restrict the pull (they will be shocked during this time as they don't anticipate the hold) and give a powerfull spurt(i remembered i gave a push like i wanna give a good [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in their mouth. this technique will definetly have your baby seed go into their stomach. did this three times. only one girl push me back and got angry to which i reply " i thought you agree because cum in mouth means i spurt in mouth and that is what happen" and i pretended to play stupid. the girls won't dare to hit a customer as she would be ban from the club as you ccan press assault charges against her (but be warned it could turn into a police case but i don't care as i am not married so i don't care of being caught in a fkk). just that make sure when you hold her head you don't do it hard (you don't need to do it because she will be shock that you restrict her head movement and she will stop her head by herself). for girl who are honest with me there is no problem and i will always do cim the normal way(i am even satisfied if the cum just drip on the lips) i do my thing and they do they thing but for those that rip off i teach them a lesson. so for 100 euro i am certain i got a swallow.

revenge is best serve cold. the nice part is when you hear them go "quek quek" rtrying to get the cum out of their stomach but hey my baby seed is already in there so enjoy my protein shake.