South China - Guangzhou

Hi all.

Oh yes I did RTFF and twice.

But I still got some questions:

1. As I understand from the forum concerning being GF and having FS saunas the most siutable hotels to stay are Victory Hotel and Ka Ying Hotel (Guess now it's called Sherwood Int.) So can anyone give me an advice about these two hotels concerning their distances to Pazhou Center? And any other suggestions about hotels?

2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)

3. Do you have any other places to suggest (saunas, BBS, KTV). Ok I know alot of names are being mentioned here but since I can't get to them all I would like to try the most worthy ones (FS is inevitable).

4. If you got any questions about the Ukranian, Russian and Turkish Markets feels free to ask please.

Thnx to all in advance

Mikey

[QUOTE=Blue Phone]Hi Guys,

Will be in GZ for 2 nites in September. I'm not the KTV kind. I would like to bring a WL, preferbably a SW gal to my hotel. Is there any such streets in GZ. Will probably be staying in a hotel at Huangshi Dong Lu. Is there a gal friendly hotel there that allow the gals in after say 11pm?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Huanshi Dong Lu is home to Gipsy King Bar and the Cave bar which seems to border on the edge of p4p if your mum lets you out late. Reading the forum it seems to be a lucky place. I should have tried it last week but my brain was dead and I did not read the forum enough at least 10 times. its all there when you return haha.

[QUOTE=Mikey Mad]2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)[/QUOTE]Just got into GZ yesterday so went out last night (Thur) as my first round this trip.

Looks like you need to add Paddy Field (Tian Yuan 田园吧) to the list of clubs. I first went there since I am a salsa dancer so before midnight, that place is normal with just the typical GZ white collar crowd, and I had a good time picking a few girls to dance salsa. But after midnight, most of the ladies are replaced with WG, mostly non-Chinese. Since the place is so crowded I decided to head to Tang to check it out, and turned out Tang is full of WG and very few guys. Very strange but suited me just fine.

[QUOTE=Blue Phone]Hi Guys,

Will be in GZ for 2 nites in September. I'm not the KTV kind. I would like to bring a WL, preferbably a SW gal to my hotel. Is there any such streets in GZ. Will probably be staying in a hotel at Huangshi Dong Lu. Is there a gal friendly hotel there that allow the gals in after say 11pm?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I do not have up to date info on this but judging from my past experience and all the crack down happening around GZ, I would say non of the hotels in that area can bring WG back after 11pm. I found the Hotel Canton and the President Hotel are the best bets. I tried many hotels in GZ and those two I never have trouble whatever the hours and the rates are quite good but might be difficult to get a room, probably due to precisely the reason you were asking. Both hotels have nice rooms and both walking distance to subway.

FS

Hi,

As far as I know paddle field is very crowded. Only when there is any live soccer match is being shown on big screens. Other wise, mostly I found it not too crowded.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Just got into GZ yesterday so went out last night (Thur) as my first round this trip.

Looks like you need to add Paddy Field (Tian Yuan 田园吧) to the list of clubs. I first went there since I am a salsa dancer so before midnight, that place is normal with just the typical GZ white collar crowd, and I had a good time picking a few girls to dance salsa. But after midnight, most of the ladies are replaced with WG, mostly non-Chinese. Since the place is so crowded I decided to head to Tang to check it out, and turned out Tang is full of WG and very few guys. Very strange but suited me just fine.[/QUOTE]

Heading to Guangzhou soon.

Are there any genuine escort agencies that can be contacted via a website?

Looking for Russian, South American ladies.

Thanks for replying.

[QUOTE=Mont Blanc]Heading to Guangzhou soon.

Are there any genuine escort agencies that can be contacted via a website?

Looking for Russian, South American ladies.

Thanks for replying.[/QUOTE]

Everything related to finding a WG must be discreet in China and if there is such a site, and made public, the authority will the the first to use it.

Just head to Tang, Paddy Field, Karma, and you have your easy pick, before the Canton Fair crowd come into down.

Fillmore

I was busy in Guangzhou all day with work and at 10pm I still have a document that I must read but I was not able to concentrate. Here I am in South China reading some miserable paper when everyone else was having fun. Then I thought maybe I can read that on the train? I called BSD and asked if it was too late to come to Dong Guang Chang Ping (cp) and he said I just needed to get the east station before 10:40 to catch the last train. I said, ok, please book me a Clipper steam room and I rushed back to my apartment in TianHe to pick up a few things and got a taxi that dropped me off at the station at 10:35. The train from Guangzhou to Shenzhen was really comfortable and the 40 min ride to cp was just what I needed to get myself focus on reading that damn thing.

Checked into my room at 11:40, asked BSD is he can find me a small ktv room (at such hour in such a short notice!!!) and he worked his magic and found me a room at PP with 400 minimum. To make a long story short, I had two pretty girls singing love songs with me before the clock struck 12. Even though the DJs are the leftovers from all night’s picking, I was able to find good quality rejects(sitting girls) from other rooms. The down side was that the prettier of the two was on her period, (thus the reason for becoming a reject, I guess) but that suited me fine as I mainly just wanted to be THE Singer!! Another lucky turn of event was that the DJ had a DJ friend who was not working that night had come in to hang out with her, and she was much better looking, and apparently I will be enjoying her presense in the room for free.

Since I wanted to try the HK-Taiwanese routine of ktv drinking followed by sauna, I let both girls go at 2:15am and got the SMS from BSD that a very pretty 56* will be waiting for me at Clipper. While waiting for my bill, the two DJ chatted with me and the prettier one asked where I was staying... wow, what should I do!!! Well, since my mind was set for trying out DG sauna and 568 was waiting for me, I took down the DJ’s number for the future and went back to Clipper. To make a long story short, BSD was absolutely right, 56* had a stunning body and great service….. Next morning I got up at 7 and back to GZ office at 8:45.

Accounting Details:
KTV room with drinks and some snacks, 450
DJ 200
Sitting girls 200x2 = 400
Total damage 1050 for doing ktv solo without taking the girl back to hotel

I will skip the details on the sauna as many others have much more to say about this.


Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]
Total damage 1050 for doing ktv solo without taking the girl back to hotel
[/QUOTE]


You're nuts Fillmore St. Seems like night or fatigue does not affect your partying spirits. LOL

I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back. And I gotta say, I don't know how you can do it. You also sing well, you're good with the girls, and you drink moderately. The girls most likely are left with a puzzled expression when you let them go...

Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?

And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.

[QUOTE=BruceTea]You're nuts Fillmore St. Seems like night or fatigue does not affect your partying spirits. LOL

I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back. And I gotta say, I don't know how you can do it. You also sing well, you're good with the girls, and you drink moderately. The girls most likely are left with a puzzled expression when you let them go...

Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?

And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.[/QUOTE]Bruce,

I think Fillmore just want to the KTV experience in CP, it is more fun with a large group but he is getting all the attention from 2 girls, but I think he should just go to the sauna instead.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Everything related to finding a WG must be discreet in China and if there is such a site, and made public, the authority will the the first to use it.

Just head to Tang, Paddy Field, Karma, and you have your easy pick, before the Canton Fair crowd come into down.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Craigslist has a lot of girls listed in the "erotic services" section for guangzhou. I don't think the authorities check there. Or maybe China blocks this web site.

Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Mikey Mad]Hi all.

Oh yes I did RTFF and twice.

But I still got some questions:

1. As I understand from the forum concerning being GF and having FS saunas the most siutable hotels to stay are Victory Hotel and Ka Ying Hotel (Guess now it's called Sherwood Int.) So can anyone give me an advice about these two hotels concerning their distances to Pazhou Center? And any other suggestions about hotels?

2. There are many clubs mentioned here: Tang, Cave, Gypsy King, Kama (or Karma? ), Celler, Hill. Are these all open and is there anything new to the scene? (Besides South American, Russian, and Chinese ladies)

3. Do you have any other places to suggest (saunas, BBS, KTV). Ok I know alot of names are being mentioned here but since I can't get to them all I would like to try the most worthy ones (FS is inevitable).

4. If you got any questions about the Ukranian, Russian and Turkish Markets feels free to ask please.

Thnx to all in advance

Mikey[/QUOTE]

Mikey Mad,

I am not familiar with Ka Ying Hotel, but the Victory Hotel is on Shamian Island and not convenient to Pazhou. It is not necessary to stay in a hotel with the sauna. Other saunas are not located in hotels. Pazhou is on the outskirts of town but the subway access is very good. Suggest you stay near a subway station somewhere near the Garden Hotel. This will put you within walking distance to SWs and the clubs. I've not been in the clubs recently. Tang is probably your best bet. The Elephant Bar across the street from the Garden Hotel is an option to test your freebie pick-up skills.

The BBS scene is pretty dead at the moment. KTV is expensive in GZ and not advisable if you are traveling alone. There is a FS Sauna on Yingbin Road in Panyu that is pretty close to Pazhou. I posted about it earlier. I cannot remember the name but it is in a 3 star hotel about 1 km past the Chimelong Hotel on the right side of the road. There is a billboard with a hotel room advertised right out front. You can't miss it. Another couple of options in town are the sauna in the Baiyun Hotel and a sauna next to the Mayor's Building in TianHe. I still reckon the Victory is the best since it is very foreigner friendly.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=BruceTea] I've seen the girls you took to sit with you, but end up not taking back.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I must be trying so hard to make up for lost time that I didn’t even noticed that you came as well, so sorry about that.

[QUOTE=BruceTea]
Why didn't you party at a KTV in GZ? How are the KTV girls there?
[/QUOTE]

I have only been to a 2nd tier ktv in GZ and the girls were 5/10/15. A typical small room on any ktv with girls would typically have 1000-1500 minimum, but the worst part was the mandatory tipping for everyone who entered the room, including the cleaning lady. The 5/10/15 is also misleading as only the 5 applies since GZ ktv girls never go out, especially on a first “date”. It is pretty much they are all waiting for the guy who comes back for her again and again and who will agree to buy her an apartment, before she would go out.

[QUOTE=BruceTea]
And what's this about the HK-TWese routine of KTV drinking then SN? haha.[/QUOTE]

Well, now I know it dose not work for me, like you said, I should have just taken that sitting girl back to the hotel, as going through too many girls on a single night is really a bit too much for me to handle, especially I would like to consider myself Mr. Lover.

I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks

Sure enough, just as a report from a couple of years back said. SW's will start to show up outside the Marriott at about 9 in the evening. They are not shy about selling their services. Most are dogs and aggressive at that. I finally found one, after shooing away 5 or 6 that would not qualify for an Alpo can. She seemed nice enough and the price was sure right. 200.

About a half hour into the session, I started getting bored with this lady and asked if she had a friend that wanted to join us. A quick phone call away and there she was. This one looked like a Russian-Chinese mix. Taller and with a more Caucasian ass to her.

We proceeded into a 3 way hand job. And as things started to stiffen appropriately, I motioned and a condom went on. She was nice. Though the fake sounds are a bit of a turn off for me.

I'll add this one to the been there, done that category and not consider that again unless I'm here for a long haul sometime. There's got to be some better caliber talent about.

The down side. These are sure stubborn bitches. They will nag you on the selection process until you relent. The part that pisses me off is trying to get them out of the room at the end of service. Constant negotiations to increase the price. Asking to begging, offering more services. I recommend to have just the right money available someone where close so you can whip it out at the right time and claim that's all you've got. Show them a wallet and they'll be after you for an hour.

I thought about asking for a photo. But decided that would only prolong the price haggle more than I was willing to bare.

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