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[QUOTE=SamPeter71;2365357]
Also exploring SA to see if I shall connect with them. I am new to SA and trying to figure how it works for one of trips.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]SamPeter, unless you are trying to get a SB or GF, don't bother with SA. Of all the women I had in Bogota, the best sexual experience was with a Venezuelan from Santa Fe, and it required no planning.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2365073]I guy who speaks knowingly without facts. Shouldn't be allowed to speak on a site like this. A person like this will continue to speak with ignorance.[/QUOTE]I think my 2 decades on here and posts in the 4 digits speak for themselves.
I have friends in the medical industry here who tell me these things. I'm not going to bother arguing with the likes of your ass. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. I'm not going anywhere.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365182]So what doctors are going around doing all these plastic surgeries in Venezuela? Cubans or Venezuelans? Whichever it is, it is obvious that the women have no qualms about going to them since half of them are surgeried up. Not to mention the Colombians that went over there to get it because it was cheaper.[/QUOTE]You can actually tell if the doctor was COL or not just by how the surgery looks after. Smart people will get it done here.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365512]That is more of a Medellin thing. It is not a Bogota thing.[/QUOTE]This is very true. You probably wouldn't even get a response on Facebook unless you actually have friends in common etc.
If your Spanish is on point and you look OK, Tinder is a good option apparently, although I've never bothered myself.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2365591]If your Spanish is on point and you look OK, Tinder is a good option apparently, although I've never bothered myself.[/QUOTE]Not my lane at all. My lane is nonpros on Cupid. The couple of times that I have even gotten an answer from a chick on Tinder in Bogota, it has been a couple of weeks after I left. Once again, in Medellin Tinder works fine for hookers. Might be better in Bogota to just use the normal sites where hookers advertise freely if your plan is to find a hooker online. Much easier and cheaper just to drag your ass down to Santa Fe rather than deal with online shit anyway.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365615]Not my lane at all. My lane is nonpros on Cupid. The couple of times that I have even gotten an answer from a chick on Tinder in Bogota, it has been a couple of weeks after I left. Once again, in Medellin Tinder works fine for hookers. Might be better in Bogota to just use the normal sites where hookers advertise freely if your plan is to find a hooker online. Much easier and cheaper just to drag your ass down to Santa Fe rather than deal with online shit anyway.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I use Mileroticos etc. From time to time for niche shit I'm looking for. Most of the time it's a royal PITA. For one thing, it's hard to get a girl to meet you after 6-7 pm.
It has to do with their original look (I. E, not full or sparsely distributed), so their next best (cheap) alternative is to get them tattooed. So from far away it looks decent, however, it looks unnatural upfront. If they didn't get it tattooed, then it would look bad both far and nearby. I asked this once and was informed such.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363169]LOL. Did you talk to them about it? If I see a chick doing shit I consider strange then I ask them about it out of curiosity. And my guess is that they are tattooed on that way since makeup tattoo is the thing now. This is a chick I mess with in Dominican Republic. Women just tend to do dumb shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365182]So what doctors are going around doing all these plastic surgeries in Venezuela? Cubans or Venezuelans?[/QUOTE]They are mostly Venezuelan. Cuba has some plastic surgery and doctors who do them, but it is nothing like in Venezuela. I've heard the Venezuelan surgeons are good.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365182]Whichever it is, it is obvious that the women have no qualms about going to them since half of them are surgeried up. Not to mention the Colombians that went over there to get it because it was cheaper.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's a third to half the price of Colombia, and I think you can find good and bad surgeons everywhere, but you got the lack of medication like antibiotics and anti-inflammatory pills in Venezuela and people were told to bring in their own. Then you got the power going off potentially, getting mugged to and from the surgery site. It's cheaper but there is definitely a lot more risk.
[QUOTE=Santrago;2362467]How's the scene in Santa Fe and Chapinero on Sunday and Monday night?
Going next week but only have time those nights, 9/1 and 9/2.
Santa Fe is always better not alone, so looking for a wingman. I want to try la 49 as well given the recent good reports.
I'm young and like to party / drink, I'm fluent in Spanish.
Hit me up if I'm Bogota those dates.[/QUOTE]Hey Santrago,
I happen to be in Bogota tonight 9/1 and leaving tomorrow (Mon). Used to live in Bogotá and fairly familiar with Santa Fe. If you'the like to let meet up let me know.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2365737]They are mostly Venezuelan. Cuba has some plastic surgery and doctors who do them, but it is nothing like in Venezuela. I've heard the Venezuelan surgeons are good.
Yeah, it's a third to half the price of Colombia, and I think you can find good and bad surgeons everywhere, but you got the lack of medication like antibiotics and anti-inflammatory pills in Venezuela and people were told to bring in their own. Then you got the power going off potentially, getting mugged to and from the surgery site. It's cheaper but there is definitely a lot more risk.[/QUOTE]Anyone planning to get something like Surgery in Venezuela under the current circumstances is a fool. Pure and simple as that. There are things and times where you just can't look at money as the first priority.
[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2365778]Hey Santrago,
I happen to be in Bogota tonight 9/1 and leaving tomorrow (Mon). Used to live in Bogot and fairly familiar with Santa Fe. If you'the like to let meet up let me know.[/QUOTE]Hey man, it seems you don't have private message option, it's nearly to impossible to meet without that.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2365617]Agreed. I use Mileroticos etc. From time to time for niche shit I'm looking for. Most of the time it's a royal PITA. For one thing, it's hard to get a girl to meet you after 6-7 pm.[/QUOTE]In Medellin. Facebook.
In Bogota. Twitter.
Just search "prepago" or "masaje" on Twitter and you'll find plenty of options. Not that you need that source.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2365145]Donations are all over the place. I would expect any woman who has been with an American or other foreigner to expect and / or demand much more. The numbers mentioned by either me or the girls ranged from $50 to $800, but I really think the best way to go about is to not bring up an amount. Unlike American women who always want specifics now, about half of the Colombian women didn't even bring up a number before the deed was done. I could see how guys could take advantage of it but I rewarded these women if they gave a great effort, and most all of them did.
As for short term, long term, they seemed to be up for anything. In general though, I think you should play it as if there is potential for a long term payoff as you are going to be visiting Bogota frequently even if you aren't.
I mentioned to the 19 year old model going to Cancun and giving a $100 per day while we were there. I also asked her to bring a friend. Her phone was blowing up as she called her friends jumping at the offer. I am not going to do it, and I can say that is too much as the Colombian women unlike so many American ones desperately wanted to travel. I think $200 plus travel expenses for a week or maybe even $100 a week would easily get you a travel companion..[/QUOTE]Elvis and ISG.
I have had similar thoughts, including potentially Venezuelan "refugee" girls. Since I lived on the beach near Tijuana (Rosarito) for 8 years. I wonder if Rosarito Beach or Ensenada would qualify as vacation destinations in their minds. Even better, would they like to actually relocate / assimilate in Mexico. Would they be able to board a plane as a tourist with what a cedula? Will Mexico even care about papers? They never did with me. And what to offer them? Weekly stipend for fun then Food & shelter, employment? What I have in mind would pay better then most Colombian salaries but no guarantee if they didn't make an effort. Worse case a month trial and go home with $X dollars and some good times. Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2365826]Anyone planning to get something like Surgery in Venezuela under the current circumstances is a fool. Pure and simple as that. There are things and times where you just can't look at money as the first priority.[/QUOTE]GH, I agree with you. I wouldn't do it. It is not rational but then many times plastic surgery, especially when mixed with women, isn't.
Thank you Elvis. I live this type of arrangements and you seems to have experience.
I would like to travel the world and have few girl connections who are open to travel with me. These prices you mentioned make me think I shall travel every month for a week.
I will start building connections and will reach out to you for help with on initial connections if you are OK with the same.
I can adjust my travel dates based on their availability as I don't have any fixed schedule job and flexible work / remote work.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2365145]Donations are all over the place. I would expect any woman who has been with an American or other foreigner to expect and / or demand much more. The numbers mentioned by either me or the girls ranged from $50 to $800, but I really think the best way to go about is to not bring up an amount. Unlike American women who always want specifics now, about half of the Colombian women didn't even bring up a number before the deed was done. I could see how guys could take advantage of it but I rewarded these women if they gave a great effort, and most all of them did.
As for short term, long term, they seemed to be up for anything. In general though, I think you should play it as if there is potential for a long term payoff as you are going to be visiting Bogota frequently even if you aren't..[/QUOTE]