Makati

Longtime lurker, I've been to PH two times; Late 30's from Canada, mixed race. Is anybody heading up there in the next couple of months? I was supposed to go last week but canceled my flight; I wasn't feeling the mood. Is anybody heading up soon and want to connect? (60 to 120 days) - PM me if you are; it doesn't matter where in PH. I am considering Manila, Davao, and MoalBoal. I hate the fucken pollution in Manila.

I also prefer slender Filipinos; I like them short but tall (if you can find them, they're not ladyboys. 5"8 - 100 lbs in a perfect world would be sweet. Does anybody else find the Filipina vagina to be elastic? Like I am an average guy (6 inches) but thickish. All the western women I have felt much tighter than PH Vage; does anybody else notice this?

I've also noticed many girls in PH, especially young girls, have virtually no experience sucking cock or have had their pussy licked. When I went last time, I picked one of the waitresses in Makati, 34, still cute and athletic. But she has never sucked a cock or swallowed cum? I said to her how did you go the last 16 years of fucking without sucking dick or swallowing cum? Unbelievable.

For any newb's going to PH, all the Filipinas I've met lie all the fucken time. Or instead of a lie, they have a hidden agenda. Example; the best monthly cellular plan in the PH is no more then 400 PHP. Pay for their shit don't give them money unless it's part of your agreement.

[QUOTE=NvRoberto;2726212]So while I appreciate the feedback that I'm paying too much to the working girls of Manila, I don't think we're talking about the same girls. In my post, Girl #1 asked for 1 k and I gave her 2 k. Girl #2 asked for nothing. Girl #3 is a former Sugar Baby looking for a new Sugar Daddy. She's used to getting good money for her time from her Daddy. She was hot, young, petite, and a great fuck. $180 is fine for her. Would I pay 10 k for some girl walking on P. Burgos Street or working at Dimples? LOL No.[/QUOTE]Fair enough comments. Here is something for you to try:

With all these non-working girls IE not fucking for money, would they return to see you if you did not pay them? Try not paying them anything and see how many non-working girls will be returning to your bed. See how many even return your texts the following day.

Pretty much everything you said has been covered in previous posts, ad nauseum.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]I hate the fucken pollution in Manila.[/QUOTE]Fall in line.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]I also prefer slender Filipinos;[/QUOTE]Fall in line.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]I like them short but tall[/QUOTE]What?

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593](if you can find them, they're not ladyboys. 5"8 - 100 lbs in a perfect world would be sweet.[/QUOTE]You are describing a woman who is approximately 40 lbs under-weight.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]When I went last time, I picked one of the waitresses in Makati, 34, still cute and athletic.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about a random waitress from a restaurant? Or one you barfined from a gogo bar? They are different creatures. A random waitress, yes even at 34, might not have much sexual experience at all (or a lot). A gogo waitress will have spent a lot of time on her back and knees.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]But she has never sucked a cock or swallowed cum?[/QUOTE]Its possible that she has such experience (a little, or a lot). What she says to you or me might be a different story.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]I said to her how did you go the last 16 years of fucking without sucking dick or swallowing cum? Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]Very believable. Covered many times in the past, RTTF. Given your next statement that they 'lie all the fucken time', this does not come as a shock that she said she has never sausage-fed. Quite possible that she's a deep-throat ace who is not in the mood to snack tonight. Also quite possible that she's then waiting for you to offer a tip (or higher tip) for said service (the old bait-and-switch-up).

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]For any newb's going to PH, all the Filipinas I've met lie all the fucken time. SNIP[/QUOTE]Yes, an ugly hallmark of the culture (to outsiders, not to the locals). Covered many times in the past for the long-time lurkers.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]Or instead of a lie, they have a hidden agenda. Example; the best monthly cellular plan in the PH is no more then 400 PHP. [/QUOTE]I didn't understand this part, its not spelled out clearly. The girl told you that she wants p400/ month for a cellular plan?

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]For any newb's going to PH, all the Filipinas I've met lie all the fucken time. Or instead of a lie, they have a hidden agenda. Example; the best monthly cellular plan in the PH is no more then 400 PHP. Pay for their shit don't give them money unless it's part of your agreement.[/QUOTE]It might come as a shock but I may have lied to a Philippine myself. Well at least misrepresented some things. I've said I'm feeling such when I have found another hot young thing I wanted to bang other than her, I have said I haven't met any other girls that trip, I've said I'm leaving tomorrow when I would be staying for another couple of weeks etc etc. I have sent small amounts of money to some girls. Sometimes it is worth it some times I'm disappointed. Always it is cheaper than me travelling somewhere to meet someone who then blows me off. Its all part of the game and determining what are things to worry about and regret and what to savour and remember.

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I also prefer slender Filipinos; I like them short but tall (if you can find them, they're not ladyboys. 5"8 - 100 lbs in a perfect world would be sweet. Does anybody else find the Filipina vagina to be elastic? [/QUOTE]I have no idea where to find flat hills but PH is an archipelago and the different provinces and islands have girls with strikingly different features. A Cebuana in Moalboal looks totally different to a Mindanao girl in Davao. Just go to where your tastes suit.

Personally, I find Pina pussies magnetic, not elastic.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726797]

Its possible that she has such experience (a little, or a lot). What she says to you or me might be a different story.

[/QUOTE]Aaah, the joys of Pina Presents. Many times I have taken a princess home, sweet as pie, butter wouldn't melt in her mouth, unwrapped her to find a fire breathing monster that I needed two days to recover from:

A Subic girl stared at her hands for two hours struggling to make any conversation at all then fucked me senseless for a week.

A SG domestic helper met in jeans and a T shirt, drank only Fanta and had a face that only a mother could love. Back in the room, I later found out that from the neck down she was a knockout bikini model. Absolutely gorgeous figure.

Never judge a book by its cover.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=JohnnySinss;2726593]I like them short but tall[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2726896]Personally, I find Pina pussies magnetic, not elastic. Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I prefer them inebriated but horny.

Alternately, I like my pinay the same way I like my coffee: Hot, and filled with booze.

J-Sinss started this.

[QUOTE=NvRoberto;2726212]Thanks all for the feedback.

I think a lot of comments here are about working girls, streetwalkers, or girls in the clubs. I've never spent $1 (that I know of LOL) on any such girl. I would never fuck some P. Burgos girl raw, and if I'm fucking, I'm fucking raw.

I very carefully screen out my girls to (hopefully) ensure they are not pros. I've been mongering 30 years all over the planet so I'm no novice to the game. I find my girls on Tinder, TanTan, and just walking the mall. I've learned that I can meet 18-25 yo girls from Manila on Tinder with a profile that says I'm 40 years old (I'm 54 - most girls I meet think I'm about 35) and just chat them up. I get them into text, and start heating up the flirting with more sexual talk. 7 out of 10 say "no thanks" but the other 3 are intrigued. I let them know I make good money and I drive a nice car and I live in a fancy condo in an upscale part of town. I invite them over to my condo and most say yes. Most don't ask for any money, but some ask if I'd be willing to help them. I've learned that the average female mentality is like this. I'm young and hot and guys want my pussy, so if I can fuck some guy and get a little money, then he's just "helping me out" or giving me a "donation", but I'm not a working girl, I'm not a prostitute. Seems pretty common among that age group these days when they connect with an older man.

The girls I'm meeting on Tinder or TanTan, I know immediately who the pros are because they are super aggressive. I get texts constantly asking if I want company tonight, if I'm busy right now, if I want a visit to my hotel room. I just unmatch those girls. The rest are looking for a long term relationship (unmatch), or they just want a friend or something virtual (unmatch) but then you have the girls who are attracted to the white man. I get them to texting and that's when I get very sexual to weed out the girls who are not looking for a hook up. The group that does want a hookup tends to be the hotter girls who have been Sugar Babies or know that they can get good money for their pussy and they ask for 10 k, 15 k, 20 k. But most are just young and dumb and curious to fuck the white man but also not afraid to ask for "a little help" financially. That's the sweet spot. Young, cute, not a pro, has not fucked many guys, and super curious to fuck a foreigner.

I have a few girls who ask for 3-5 k for help with groceries. I have another girl I see often and she's 7 k, but she is SMOKING HOT, educated, good job. Former Sugar Baby who initially asked me for 10 k per visit, and I said no, we settled on 7 k. A favorite is a girl I met at the mall who fucks me and asks no money, she just loves to be around me. I toss her 1-2 k occasionally to help with groceries. My problem is I get bored easily, and if I connect on TanTan with an 19-year old who is a full-time student, non-pro, super cute, and tosses out 10 k for raw sex with creampie and tells me she's only fucked 1 other guy before but she desperately needs money, I'll happily toss her $180. Is she lying? Maybe. Who cares? She's 19,5' tall, 95 lbs, with pony tails in her little catholic schoolgirl outfit fresh from class and now she's on her knees in a SoGo sucking my cock.

So while I appreciate the feedback that I'm paying too much to the working girls of Manila, I don't think we're talking about the same girls. In my post, Girl #1 asked for 1 k and I gave her 2 k. Girl #2 asked for nothing. Girl #3 is a former Sugar Baby looking for a new Sugar Daddy. She's used to getting good money for her time from her Daddy. She was hot, young, petite, and a great fuck. $180 is fine for her. Would I pay 10 k for some girl walking on P. Burgos Street or working at Dimples? LOL No.[/QUOTE]

Honestly I don't understand why you spend time to screen out the PROs, and then you go and sleep with two girls who asked you for money.

From my understanding a PRO is a woman who has sex for money (a sugar baby, bar girl, and any one who ask for money even if is just 1K).

I know there are some people calling girls PRO and Semi-PROs, but at the end of the day both are PROs because both are sleeping with you for cash.

Just because you meet her in Tinder or TanTan and not in a bar, it doesn't make them any different if both are asking you for money.

I bet many of those girls you give them money have been to LA Cafe or Burgos (or a high class bar) or they fuck alot of foreigners for the extra cash, so it doesn't make them any different than a bar girl.

NOW if you screen out to find a good girl, a decent girl, who is not lazy, who is hardworker and a breadwinner, or she is a college student studying her career, and she is independent, and she get offended if you give her money (trust me there are lots of them), then your online screening is worth it. Once you meet alot of good girls (like I have), then you will see that a Filipina has NO excuse not to be a decent woman, they can find a job as a callcenter, sales lady, work in an agency, or study hard for their careers.

Honestly if you are willing to pay 10K to have sex, might as well go straight to a high class escort agency, and choose the hottest girl there, because at the end of the day the girls you meet on Tinder and TanTan and they ask you for 10K or even 5K, they are not ANY different than the girls you will meet in a high class bar or a high class escort agency.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2726896]I have no idea where to find flat hills but PH is an archipelago and the different provinces and islands have girls with strikingly different features. A Cebuana in Moalboal looks totally different to a Mindanao girl in Davao. Just go to where your tastes suit..[/QUOTE]That's hilarious. True enough.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726920]I prefer them inebriated but horny.

Alternately, I like my pinay the same way I like my coffee: Hot, and filled with booze.

J-Sinss started this.[/QUOTE]I'd prefer them slender and free with a mouth full of cock.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2726809]It might come as a shock but I may have lied to a Philippine myself. Well at least misrepresented some things. I've said I'm feeling such when I have found another hot thing I wanted to bang other than her, I have said I haven't met any other girls that trip, I've said I'm leaving tomorrow when I would be staying for another couple of weeks etc etc. I have sent small amounts of money to some girls. Sometimes it is worth it some times I'm disappointed. Always it is cheaper than me travelling somewhere to meet someone who then blows me off. Its all part of the game and determining what are things to worry about and regret and what to savour and remember.[/QUOTE]LOL. No regrets, life is too short. Yes, I suppose a lot of us are full of shit as well. So fair is fair. Like my Dad use to say; Does she fuck and suck?

I don't understand, you never paid a 1 $ so far for non pros, but also paying 7 k, 15 k or 180 $ to help non pro.

99% of them never admit they are pro, you maybe raw dawging a pina who just got raw dawg by someone else.

What evidence do you have that she is not pro? And never been raw dawg by another punter?

[QUOTE=NvRoberto;2726212]Thanks all for the feedback.

I think a lot of comments here are about working girls, streetwalkers, or girls in the clubs. I've never spent $1 (that I know of LOL) on any such girl. I would never fuck some P. Burgos girl raw, and if I'm fucking, I'm fucking raw.

I very carefully screen out my girls to (hopefully) ensure they are not pros. I've been mongering 30 years all over the planet so I'm no novice to the game. I find my girls on Tinder, TanTan, and just walking the mall. I've learned that I can meet 18-25 yo girls from Manila on Tinder with a profile that says I'm 40 years old (I'm 54 - most girls I meet think I'm about 35) and just chat them up. I get them into text, and start heating up the flirting with more sexual talk. 7 out of 10 say "no thanks" but the other 3 are intrigued. I let them know I make good money and I drive a nice car and I live in a fancy condo in an upscale part of town. I invite them over to my condo and most say yes..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2727048]I don't understand, you never paid a 1 $ so far for non pros, but also paying 7 k, 15 k or 180 $ to help non pro.

99% of them never admit they are pro, you maybe raw dawging a pina who just got raw dawg by someone else.

What evidence do you have that she is not pro? And never been raw dawg by another punter?[/QUOTE]Most of us and the girls have a delusional story we tell ourselves.

Some do not like to admit we pay for sex.

Some do not like to admit they get paid for sex.

End of the night money went from one pocket to another’s.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2727178]Most of us and the girls have a delusional story we tell ourselves.

[/QUOTE]Luckily I've never had to pay a girl to spend the night. I've paid a lot to leave in the morning though. 😜.

[QUOTE=SteveNash;2726967]Honestly I don't understand why you spend time to screen out the PROs, and then you go and sleep with two girls who asked you for money.

From my understanding a PRO is a woman who has sex for money (a sugar baby, bar girl, and any one who ask for money even if is just 1K).

I know there are some people calling girls PRO and Semi-PROs, but at the end of the day both are PROs because both are sleeping with you for cash.

Just because you meet her in Tinder or TanTan and not in a bar, it doesn't make them any different if both are asking you for money.

I bet many of those girls you give them money have been to LA Cafe or Burgos (or a high class bar) or they fuck alot of foreigners for the extra cash, so it doesn't make them any different than a bar girl.

NOW if you screen out to find a good girl, a decent girl, who is not lazy, who is hardworker and a breadwinner, or she is a college student studying her career, and she is independent, and she get offended if you give her money (trust me there are lots of them), then your online screening is worth it. Once you meet alot of good girls (like I have), then you will see that a Filipina has NO excuse not to be a decent woman, they can find a job as a callcenter, sales lady, work in an agency, or study hard for their careers..[/QUOTE]I disagree in your version of PRO but you're entitled to your opinion. I see a difference between a girl who's fucking 10, 15, 20 guys a week making her money as a pro in a brothel, escort site, go-go club, etc. Vs a girl who works and goes to school but has come to the conclusion that if she's going to hook up, she might as well get money out of it and connects with older men (the ones most likely to pay) and fucks a few of them a month for side money. But that's my opinion.