FKK in Frankfurt (4 clubs compared)
First I'the like to thank the various forum members who kindly offered me advice in connection with my recent trip. This report is intended to assist mainly those who have not been to Frankfurt FKK clubs before. As I had not been either (having been only to Artemis FKK in Berlin previously).
I'the asked the forums which 3 or 4 clubs were best to visit. Most suggested Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and most said to avoid Palace at all costs! Largely those recommendations were spot on. With a few hiccups here and there as I explain below. For each of the clubs I've commented on location / ambience / food / girls / particularly good or bad features.
Day 1. Decide to go to MAINHATTAN first and leave the bigger clubs to the end of the trip.
Travel and costs: Taxi from central Frankfurt (FRA) cost around 20 inc tip. 65 entrance (I think. Could have been 60).
Friendly reception guy, lockers at reception, into club and immediately see how small it is compared to Artemis.
Girls: Also surprised at how few girls there were in comparison. Around 40 I'the say. Which wasn't bad. But I cannot say I was impressed with the lineup at all. My preference is slim, big busted pretty faced girls. There were no more than 8 girls that met my preferences and none of them better than 8/10 looks and none of them with big boobs (I don't mind natural or silicon). The layout of the club is not very impressive to me. The bar is small with a glass partitioned smoking area to one side. There is little "walk around" space. I like to do the circuit and look at the girls which they sit at the bar or on sofas. That was very uneasy here as you are walking next to them all the time.
The girls in this club are fairly aggressive on the approach and did not like being turned away. I know it's their job. But a polite "just looking around the club for now" or "just relaxing for now" should be enough. It wasn't and a couple of times they took offence. Which of course guaranteed that if the attitude was bad outside of the room it would be poor in it.
Food: Surprisingly good. Good options and of the 4 clubs this came second for me on food. Regularly replenished. Useful passage from club to food where the girls regularly pass.
Facilities: Didn't try the massage. Outside area was ok. Not nearly as good as Sharks or Oase (see below) but adequate. Sauna / showers standard.
Upselling: heaviest in the club in my experience. Worse than at Palace. Which I know is contrary to previous reports but its what I found. I like DFK. I asked several girls to confirm this was included and I use the Syzergies tactic of "I often stay with the girl an hour if the service is good and you include DFK" which is not a facade. It's what I do if the girl is good. I'm not really into 30 minute 50 suck and fuck sessions. I like more of a GFE. I turned down at least 5 girls at the bar due to this silly practice. I have no problem having long sessions of 2 hours and then tipping so paying 250 if the service is top drawer (see below), but someone telling me I have to pay 50 to kiss is just taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and she could be 11/10 in looks but I'the still avoid her for misjudged policy.
Finally selected Ramina. Half Romanian half Turkish. Looked more latina / Turkish / Indian. Body 7/10 but face 8/10 and for me she was the best looking girl in the club. I ask if DFK is included. She confirmed. Service in room, 5/10. Hurried DFK and with no effort. Maybe she just didn't like me much. After 20 minutes I told her I'the had a nice time but that's enough thanks. When she asks what is the problem I told her openly that her service was hurried, not passionate and I would have preferred her to reject me downstairs. I confirmed I'the still pay the 50 but was really looking for a girl with great service with whom I would happily spend 2 hours and pay 200+. Miraculously her attitude changed instantly but no amount of "come on baby" was going to change my mind then. I love the type who will give great service believing you are only in for 30 or 60 minutes. And don't upsell. As Ramina didn't fit the bill I was off. I know you could say that I am cutting my nose off to bite my face by leaving the session early. But it actually hits a mark with some of them and might make them perform better for other clients. Let's hope so.
Left Mainhattan thinking I would never return. No pop. Word for the very curvy black girl with glasses. Not my type to session with but a very nice girl to talk to at the bar with no hassle. Mainhattan was the worst of the 4 clubs I attended in Frankfurt by far. The line up was poor, the club is too small and the upselling was rife. For me, the only decent thing was the food. But I'the go to a restaurant for that!
Day Two: PALACE. Despite all warnings to avoid at my peril, and despite my disappointing time at Mainhattan, I wanted to save the best clubs till last but I also thought whilst I'm here in Frankfurt I should at least try the big four clubs.
Travel and cost. Similar to Mainhattan but closer to centre, again I think 60/65 in (can't remember). All the clubs were that price apart from Oase - 70.
Layout. Entrance to nice little bar on left hand side with a guy who is married to a woman from Oldham! Good system on the fob whereby any alcoholic drinks are bought using the fob instead of annoying bloody tokens / chips (artemis and Oase take note! Decent enough lockers / showers / small sauna. Main bar area was good for me. Spacious, pool in the centre at the top, nice kino, drop down areas at the back of the indoor pool. The real disappointment is the lack of an outdoor facility worth a visit. That's the downside of Palace for me. Food was ok. Not as good as Mainhattan. But in every other respect for me this club is 5 times better than Mainhattan.
Girls. A reasonable line up. Some of the giraffe-like tall German girls with tattoos and silicones who look like they could eat you (and probably can and do!) who were fairly attractive. I liked that there were different nationalities in Palace. Not all EE. I like latinas. Hence selection of small blonde Lara with large natural tits. Body 6/10, face 6/10, attitude 9/10. Before this selection I approached several romanians, all pretty with good bodies, one blonde was especially attractive. But had a poor manner and she and several of these girls were upselling in the bar so I declined. Christina had no upsetting, confirmed DFK included in 50 and service was 7/10. Not unhappy at selection. Had a few beers, chatted to some other guys and girls but nobody really took my fancy and I left. Would I return. Yes if I only had limited time in FRA with no possibility to get to Sharks or Oase. I preferred Palace to Mainhattan.
DAY THREE. SHARKS.
Travel and Cost. Arrived 4 pm. Train out of FRA Main Hbf to Darmstadt. Direct, about 30 minutes, could not believe how packed the station and train was but got a seat. Into taxi and still 20 to Club. 65 I think! Same token system on key fob for drinks. Very good.
Layout. For me, just personal taste of course. This Club is head and shoulders ahead of all of the others I visited. Quite apart from the amazing huge fish tank high up in the main bar -a sight in itself, this gave the impression of being a nice big, almost nightclub type club. Bar area was perfect. Long oblong bar, lots of sofa areas, but some great relax areas up the black gloss stairs to the upper part of the Club where the rooms are and there are two jacuzzi areas there. This was terrific for looking down on all of the action and seeing which girls were where. Loved it.
Outside. Really nice. Smaller than Oase (see below), but as good. Sun loungers of every shape and size, a good pool (not as nice as Oase). Easy access in and out of club (unlike Oase). TV's outdoors. Perfect if the weather is good (which it was). Locker room on left as you go in was probably the most plain of all the clubs (bit like a swimming baths!) so not opulent like Oase with its red lip / mouth urinals! Spent an hour outside just sunbathing, in the pool and with the odd beauty coming to join in. Loved it.
Line up / Girls. I thought it was very impressive indeed. All shapes and sizes but some really good looking girls to pick from. Majority EE but some other nationalities. Several slim blondes all worth considering. One lovely slightly older blonde Brasilian. Genuinely. She looked shocked when I broke into Portuguese. But she immediately came back with it fluently. Too fluently for any EE to attempt to take off. Great boobs but she didn't match the competition for looks. And as time went on it seemed to just get better and better.
Other facilities. Food area is small but the selection was good and service in there was very good. Nice to have a selection of deserts as well. Entry fee included beer (unlike the very annoying situation at Oase). Massage. Old guy doing the massage. After failed first session with Cindy, black haired very pretty Hungarian with natural see cups, stockings etc. Who was keen only to do the usual suck / fuck menu and nothing else. Room we went to upstairs was huge with big round bed and very luxurious. So back to the massage. It was fantastic. Don't usually like having a massage from a male -but he was great. Very large sauna at back of club and smaller one next door all next to showers and massage facility. The club is just so well laid out.
Starting to feel like my luck in the FRA FKKs was not good. Obviously selecting the wrong girls. Stunners but as experienced mongers will know. This does not guarantee anything other than eye candy. Ultimately service is king. And so it proved. Coming out of the lockers I spot a very pretty blonde, Gina. Big red lips, big eyes, silicones. She is in a towel having clearly just serviced someone. I talk to her and she says she needs 15 minutes break with her friends. Fine by me. Off for a final wander outside then back in, Gina is at a table with a tall dark girl. Eleanor - very pretty, slim, small tits. Gina accepts an invitation to chat elsewhere. Makes clear no upselling at all. DFK included, as well as anything I want other than CIM or spanish. Both extra. I say I'm not into either and off we go. She was absolutely fantastic. She says she'the like to go into one of the themed rooms downstairs if I'm not shy. I ask if other people are in there and she says no but with a wicked smile takes me by the hand. We go into a completely mirrored Zimmer, hard to even know where the door was. After 10 minutes of DFK she leads me to the Egyptian room. Lovely four poster. An hour of great service later she raises the stakes and takes me to the dungeon. She says not many people go in as it is downstairs and you can see people going in and out. By now I'm so loving this girl's attitude I'the have agreed to session in the fish tank! Not normally my thing but in we go and she turns into a very sexy mild domina! I keep asking if this is extra (like an idiot). No she says. But keep a look at the time as its 50 for every 30 minutes. But like a star every 25 minutes into any half hour she tells me 5 minutes left. I just didn't want the experience to end she was so good.
Shower and she invites me to sit with her and her friends for a drink (only they had tequila shots which I declined). Gina asks me if I'the like a drink, on her, I protest weekly, she gets me a whisky on the rocks and we chill for 30 minutes with the girls telling me some funny stories about experiences in the club.
Taxi back to Frankfurt 55. Too late for trains. Had a fantastic time at Sharks and loved the club.
DAY FOUR. OASE.
Was really looking forward to this as most members of the forums suggested this would be the best club.
Train easy on S5 line and normal German efficiency. Took the great advice from and got off at Bad Homburg to ensure I got a taxi as advises they are not always outside Friedersdorf and what would I do then? 20 ride to the Club. Massively impressive entrance compared to the other clubs. 70 in. No drinks fob just the key. Take the stairs down with towel (probably walked those stairs 40 times in my 8 hours in the Club). Nuisance. Lockers should be easily accessible without having to navigate a narrow corridor down flights of stairs. This is the only Club I've been to out of 5 which does this and it was poorly thought out.
Layout. As per above. The designers have just got it all wrong. It's all very nice but loads of narrow passage ways, bar area is much much smaller than Sharks and as dark as anything. Which is absolutely hopeless as it is impossible to see a girls face unless she is talking to you once you go inside. Large kino. Positioned well. Through one turn toward the downstairs kitchen area. Table football machine (good idea), jacuzzi next to the food area? Bedrooms next to jacuzzi 10 yards from the restaurant? Girls changing room is through the restaurant? Nice to eat and see them come in and out but I'm not into being propositioned when I'm eating. And it happened a lot. The food (as reported on here before) was quite easily the worst of all the 4 clubs. Yet for all my moans. This club easily came 2nd (to Sharks) overall, and threatened to be best as many predicted. Why?
The Girls. Not only were there probably 80+ and that is not an exaggeration. In fact I might be shy on the number. There were a LOT of girls. It was a Saturday though. Admittedly there seemed to be far more men than in any other club as well. And strangely not so many Asian men. I'the been surprised by how many Asian guys were in the other clubs. I don't care where guys are from, but I did wonder just why these clubs had particularly attracted guys from that region. Not so much here. Lots of Germans. The stand out thing is this club that hits you immediately upon going there. Is the quality of the ladies. They're really very good. Overall, much better standard than any other club. Sharks included. Maybe it just suited my particular taste. Slim, pretty. Not many with big boobs. But enough. This was the first club where I knew I'the struggle to pick but not because there wasn't many spinners. But that there were so many of them. Met a great Swiss guy called Martin. We played some table football but he was far too good!! Martin if you are reading this please PM me. We tried unsuccessfully to get emails at the end of the night.
Outside. As I'the arrived mid afternoon and the sun was shining thought I'the venture out. So, down loads of stairs to locker for sunglasses, back up loads of stairs, through narrow corridor, right towards kitchen / jacuzzi / bedrooms / food around a corner, down more stairs, passed jacuzzi, then upstairs to get out of club passed showers and sauna. You get the picture? It's like a maze. I did get used to it after 2 hours but I still think it is very badly designed. What isn't though. Is the outside area. It is huge. Great pool (best of the 4 clubs) loads of sun loungers, outside bar, huge field with football goal of interest (and tented type beds posted at outskirts great for taking girls there and several were outside with guys having a session. Nice touch.
Back into club and immediately zone in on an absolute stunner. Says her name is Surgy / Surgie? Looks 10/10. Body 9/10 (tits a bit small but not bad). Says she is Spanish but looks horrified when I burst into Spanish having been there many times and having previously lived in Madrid. Her then insistence on speaking english tells me all I need to know but her face, body, legs, ass, all tell my cock that she could have been from outer Siberia for all I cared. First session of day. Mechanical. Down several corridors to tiny room with mirrors and small bed and no air con. Wanted more for DFK which I refused. 30 minutes. Service 5/10. Unsatisfying and no pop. Just no connection and didn't want to waste a pop on her. Wanted to get out of the room as it was far too hot. Not from my efforts.
Spot a very fresh looking stunner, quick discussion. Elizabeth from Cze. Small girl, brunette, fresh looks and very pretty. Fantastic natural the cups and wicked smile. Session one hour. Room had no air con, was down about 5 more corridors with doors with naked girls on them which made them all look the same. Poor room again. Service 8/10. DFK but wanted 20 to which I agreed as she was very pretty and I couldn't resist. Looks 9/10.
Off to BBQ for some food. I think that's what they call it anyway. I wouldn't go back and the paid for food is mainly pizza which I don't eat so tough on me. The the most stupid thing about this club. I like a glass of white wine with my meal. Can I buy one please? You need a token from reception sir. Ok. Up several flights of stairs and round several bends. Purchase 3 x 10 vouchers. Go into bar next to entrance / main lounge as the downstairs bar was crowded due to it being dinner time. Can I have a glass of white wine please? No sir only the downstairs bar sells wine. What? Why? Club rules Sir. Back through the corridors and stairs to restaurant. Eventually get served. Glass of white wine please. No Sir we only sell wine by the bottle. It's 20. This is despite there being wine glasses everywhere. I tell the Spanish (miserable) barmaid I don't want a bottle. I'm happy to pay 10 (mad that I am) for a glass. To match the disgraceful 10 for a bottle of becks in the main bar. Not possible Sir. I know if I buy a bottle of wine I'll drink too much of it and won't perform without the blue headache creating pill. So I give in and ask for a beer. We don't sell beer at this bar Sir. Only at the upstairs bar! This club is HOPELESS at thinking of the customer. So I eat my dreadful food with a lovely cold glass of water. Then outside for more sun around that lovely pool. Where there are a constant stream of slim very attractive girls. Which somehow blur the overall nonsense of this club and its policies.
Back into the bar area (don't worry I won't take you through the route again. You've got the gist by now) and I see a beaming smile on a blonde I'the spotted earlier. Approach her, Ruby, Romanian. Only been at Oase 3 weeks she says. Shoulder length blonde hair, smallish tits, decent ass. Looks 9/10, body 8/10. Attitude 20/10. She was a complete joy from start to our finish 2. 5 hours later. Service 10/10+++ No upwell. No demand for money for anything remotely different. Best kisser I've ever sessioned with in years. Fantastic. Occasional pauses for drinks / chat. Escape from another small hot room, back in. She (like Gina at Sharks) would remind me politely about the time so I could choose more or not. No pressure just making sure I didn't run into the next 50 without noticing. I thanked her but told her I'the already decided she was going to be my last girl in Oase on this trip and I was happy to go on for as long as I could / she wanted. Very intelligent girl, great attitude, service, and knows what to do.
Knackered. Ventured into the massage area. Yes you guessed it. Up more stairs (not many). Normal massage to right, thai to left. Went with normal and this particularly attractive blonde girl gives me a one hour massage to die for. Had I not been a spent force (I'm too old to be able to pop and pop - 2 good ones in a day is enough for me) I think I'the have been propositioning her. No extras. Just a really great massage.
Taxi back (too late for trains) 50 inc tip.
Apologies for the virtual book! In summary and IMHO my rankings:
SHARKS. Fantastic layout, great food, great massage, great outdoors, drinks on fob, beer included, great bar area, great relax areas, great rooms, many very attractive girls. But not nearly as many as in Oase. Apart from the latter, for me, it beats Oase hands down. Themed rooms were fantastic.
2. OASE. Fantastic selection of many really good looking women with nice bodies so great line up. Lovely outdoor pool and gardens. Football table is a good idea. Best massage facility of all clubs. Downsides. Layout is hopeless. Corridors, stairs, and the wine / beer policy. Useless. Food quality and selection is very poor. Main bar far too dark. Line up saves it and is why so many return I suspect.
At both Sharks and Oase if they bothered to buy a bloody lawn mower the outside areas would look so much more impressive. Small detail but lets both down as grass is unkempt.
3. PALACE. Better layout than Mainhattan and Oase but line up weaker than Sharks and Oase. Decent food, main bar area was good, but no outdoor area a real letdown. Upselling rife. The very best looking girls here would fit in at Oase but I didn't find that many of them. Convenient to central FRA.
4. MAINHATTAN. Far too small. Very poor line up. Girls aggressive when rejected. Food very good. Nice staff but overall a real disappointment and no taxis outside so club had to call one which took ages to come. Would not go back.
The above factors make the choice between Sharks and Oase tough. If I only had one night in FRA in future.I'the go to Sharks. The line up isn't as good as Oase but there as still some stunners and everything else about the Club IMHO is better than Oase.
Sorry it was so long. But hope it helps some choose!
