American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2676844]There is a huge difference between someone who votes Democrat and a Democratic douche. You are obviously the latter. If you think Jimmy Carter was a good president, you are a Democratic douche. If you think Biden had no effect on gasoline prices, you are a Democratic douche.

And here you go demonizing Trump voters and calling them stupid, another DD move. Did you ever consider people voting for Trump were anti-war? I did. All your DD fucking bitching about Trump, and I asked you DDs two questions: Did he start any wars? And is the economy terrible? If both are no, he is not that bad, and you guys went to impeach him throughout his entire presidency. The impeachments showed how many anti-Democracy DDs there were who could not stand that Trump won.

OMG. And here we go again.

LOL. YOU need to get off a racist agenda. When Hollyweird is making movies and I can predict their outcomes based on race, YOUR side is being racist, and I voted for Obama. He was a better candidate than McCain or Romney. Has a Republican running for president ever been a better candidate with you? If you are a DD, the answer is no.[/QUOTE]You are the most, or one of the most, out-of-touch people on this board. Everything you post is either flat out wrong or a Republicant talking point (and those are usually flat-out wrong, too).

Ahhhh, there's a difference between someone who votes Democratic and a Democratic douche? You accuse me of being a Democratic douche and yet you have no idea about my voting history. But that's typical of a Republicant.

I demonized people who supported Cheeto Tweeto and called them stupid by saying this?: "The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power. " Please highlight the word [B]stupid[/B] in the above quote. Go on, do it and show everybody how ignorant you really are.

War? Why would any dictator go to war with the Orange Buffoon. He was giving them all they wanted. He told Putin that he was going to pull out of NATO if he got re-elected. All Putin had to do was wait. He put tariffs on China and then lied to the American people and said that China was actually paying for the tariffs. How dumb does someone have to be to swallow that malarky?

Economy? Really? How many net jobs were lost under the Mango Mussolini's watch? Don't bring up COVID because he bungled our response to that as well. If you bring up COVID. You'd be like the kid who murdered his parents who then asks the judge for leniency because he is an orphan.

People who voted for the Mango Mussolini might have been anti-war, but many of them were white supremacists. White supremacists want war. At least war on POC. How many white supremacist votes did Biden receive? Many who voted for the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy were homophobic and transphobic. Many people who are transphobic and homophobic would just as soon lynch them as look at them. How many of those votes did Biden receive? The point of all of this is to show you that most who voted for the Orange Buffoon are just lily-livered cowards who hate everyone who isn't just like them. And the Mango Mussolini played into those fears. "Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. " That's what he tweeted. Live and let live just isn't in the cards for you. Unless, of course, the folks you are letting live are white and straight and Republicant.

So you want Hollywood to regulate movies? You want government to do what, censor them? Or somehow tell them what lines to include? What drivel. Hollywood makes movies for audiences, as is their right. If you don't want to watch, don't watch. But sure, feel free to criticize a movie because there are too many black actors or because there are too many mixed-race marriages or too many homosexuals or too many transsexuals. You are a snowflake.

Republicants always seem to think censorship is only something Democrats do. Are Democrats banning books that discuss subjects that make white people uncomfortable? Nope, only Republicants are doing that. Are Democrats trying to pass laws that limit what a private business can discuss in terms of race? Nope, again. Only Republicants are doing that. If you post a negative comment about the Orange Buffoon on Pravda Social and get booted, it isn't censorship. But if you post a negative comment about Biden on Facebook and get booted, that's censorship. More drivel.

In fact, your entire post is drivel. Everybody on the board knows it. Well, everybody but wingers.

I notice no winger posted an excerpt of recently discovered winger favorite Bill Maher's show this time around after the question he thought was worth asking, "Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend Trump was in office"? Got well and surely answered for the umpteenth time by intelligent, well-informed people;.

Because Putin didn't need to.

[URL]https://youtu.be/RET6fG_uqP4[/URL]

[QUOTE]MR. MAHER: But I know you were watching our show last week and you heard me say, Why didnt Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend, Trump was in office? I mean, Trump stood with him at Helsinki and defended him over our own intelligence agencies. So I was just asking the question. And maybe you do have an answer. Why not? When Trump was in office, it would seem to be the more logical place.
MR. BROOKS: No, he didnt invade because he didnt need to, because you only roll out the tanks when you think youre out of options. And Putin had a grand asymmetric strategy to dismantle NATO from within. And it was working. When the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces calls NATO obsolete, you are on the road to a fifth column victory, and thats what he was doing. And its a matter of fact we know now in 2018 Trump wanted to pull out of NATO, and it was John Kelly and John Bolton who had to hold him down like a rabid dog to stop him from doing that. And if Trump had won a second term, he would have done it. But Biden being elected caused Putins plan to go up in smoke.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]MAHER: Whats so surprising to me about Putin? We always knew he was evil, but nobody ever called him dumb. And now he looks dumb. He looks dumb and not powerful. You know, I honestly, I was wrong. I thought he was not going to invade. I thought it was just brinksmanship. But now like, this could really go so bad for him. I mean, the Russians have had a revolution before. And when you have the morale of the army, we know is where it is, when you have the economy tanking the way it is. I mean, it looks like they pulled back the curtain and the Wizard of Oz is just this old man with the sound machine.[/QUOTE]Sure enough:

[B]Putin's Russia looks increasingly desperate as Ukraine war nears stalemate, analysts say[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/21/putins-russia-looks-increasingly-desperate-as-ukraine-war-drags-analysts.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL].[QUOTE] President Vladimir Putins forces have exerted brutal force and destruction on much of Ukraine.

They have forced many to flee and made millions homeless, but the invasion has failed to achieve major military victories.

The capital of Kyiv, second-largest city of Kharkiv, and even besieged and heavily damaged Mariupol are holding on despite weeks of shelling, destruction and deprivation.

Analysts say Russia is faced with more military and economic losses.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile, under Biden the Fed has to raise interest rates in hopes of cooling down an overheated, roaring USA economy that is creating way more jobs with higher wages than there are applicants to take them and, for the first time since another Dem was POTUS, the USA is not at war with any country.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2677067]In fact, your entire post is drivel. Everybody on the board knows it. Well, everybody but wingers.[/QUOTE]I am glad everyone knows it. [URL]https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election[/URL].

[URL]https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election[/URL]

If you put your money where you mouth is, you should make a killing.

But let us be honest. The surest bet of all is that you will not make one.

Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2676987]This is a great site for comparing cumulative and annualized USA jobs market growth among recent presidents. Just choose and enter any 2 or more presidents and get a line chart for results that even the dumbest and least informed winger can understand:

[B]"Jobs Created and Jobs Growth By President: Compare Jobs Across US Presidents"[/B][URL]https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/jobs-growth/[/URL].

You want to see a hilarious contrast between the critical economic factor of jobs growth success vs abysmal jobs growth failure? Just enter Jimmy Carter and / or Joe Biden and compare their results to Trump or any other Repub. LOL.

Well, comparing any Dem results vs any and all Repub results proves that consistent Dem voters are truly economic and jobs creation geniuses compared to the consistent Repub voters' apparent hatred for creating USA jobs.[/QUOTE]Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential. [/QUOTE]Yes, they will hopefully reflect and look at the treasonous actions of Tucker Carlson, pushing the propaganda of our enemies in a time of war. Plus the stolen election lunacies, the rewriting of history in the deadly attack at our Capital aimed at stopping an election certification, and after GOPs morons like Mo Brooks told them to "kick ass and take names. " There's of course much more, across the spectrum of right wing nut fake news sources and blogs, that keeps suckers like you stirred up daily.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing. [/QUOTE]The timing made no difference. It was demonstrated throughout the campaign that Trump is a liar, a crook, and a serial adulterer, but that didn't matter to the bigots. They had their grievances in response to eight years of the first black president, and he was clever enough to hit all the right cords. Add to that Hillary, a good politician but a rather bland campaigner and personality, plus, though a total nothing burger, an effective October surprise using James Comey and Trump squeezed in.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. [/QUOTE]Waa waa waa you didn't get your October surprise the second time. You were forced to earn this one the old fashioned way and failed. And Hunter wasn't running for president and wasn't even a public servant.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]Two impeachments led to nothing. [/QUOTE]There's never been a successful impeachment in the history of my country. That's because the standard is very high, requiring a 2/3rd Super Majority and partisian politicians are on the jury. But it led to something. We have clear evidence that Trump withheld taxpayer funds promised to Ukraine as leverage to try to secure a favor, to collect dirt and slander his most feared political opponent. He is a crook, and his self-serving GOP buttboys refused to call him out. January 6th, 2021 will live in infamy with most Americans, as will the traitors who fueled and perpetrated it. We look forward to the day that the GOP reclaims their party and the conspiracy theory chasing, unAmerican kooks are forced back out of the mainstream. It would also be nice to get more of them in jail along the way, but as usual, Axel Hole has nothing but biased, simplified fluff that's so easy to overturn. He wants to be an intellectual but hasn't put in the work, the time in study to become effective.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2677171]I am glad everyone knows it. [URL]https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election[/URL].

[URL]https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election[/URL]

If you put your money where you mouth is, you should make a killing.

But let us be honest. The surest bet of all is that you will not make one.[/QUOTE]As usual, you didn't bother to the one question I asked in my post.

You accused me of calling all Republican voters stupid when I said "The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power."

Please highlight the word stupid in the above quote. Go on, do it and show everybody how ignorant you really are.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.[/QUOTE]Would that be the same New York Times that, along with virtually every other typically pro Repub electioneering Mainstream Media, refused to call out Trump's penchant for blatantly lying about everything big and small throughout most of his 2016 campaign until well after most voters historically had already made up their minds?

[B]"The weekend America's newspapers called Donald Trump a liar"[/B][URL]https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/25/media/newspapers-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-lies/[/URL].

My god, to think how much better off America and the rest of the world would have been all through 2017,2018, 2019, 2020 and even today if only the NYT and other MSM had dropped their Dem / Clinton-bashing obsession with that "But her emails"! BS and had instead been identifying Trump as the traitorous, lying con man he is from the moment he descended that escalator and began to con weak-minded hillbillies into voting against their own interests and America at all levels.

[QUOTE=Canada;2677206]Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.[/QUOTE]I looked at it.

It was simple enough to use.

And it gave the actual, exact job growth for each president to compare.

If Canada thinks that the site gave false information. Then Canada is wrong.

I like looking at and comparing the four years under single-term Carter to the four years against single-term Trump.

Both terms started out right, but even from the beginning, Carters growth was faster and stronger.

And Carter's job numbers did not take a nosedive and turn to TrumpShit.

And none of the criminal shit either.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2673863]That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more.[/QUOTE]Big metal boxes on wheels is not the way to go, not the future.

This is not a 1910 individual travel issue with the need to coax ladies out of their horse drawn carriages into motorized boxes.

What stops electric bikes, which can be 5% to 10% the cost of a new car, from replacing cars with e-bikes?

Why not have an e-bike replace around half the trips you make in your car, so your car lasts twice as long and burns up only half the gasoline costs each year?

Why not have an e-vehicle you can carry on a bus or train, to then ride that last mile to a doorstep destination? Or ride it to 15 doorsteps in one afternoon around town?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2677142]I notice no winger posted an excerpt of recently discovered winger favorite Bill Maher's show this time around after the question he thought was worth asking, "Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend Trump was in office"? Got well and surely answered for the umpteenth time by intelligent, well-informed people;.

Because Putin didn't need to.[/QUOTE]Oh really?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2677142] MR. BROOKS: No, he didnt invade because he didnt need to, because you only roll out the tanks when you think youre out of options. And Putin had a grand asymmetric strategy to dismantle NATO from within. And it was working. When the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces calls NATO obsolete, you are on the road to a fifth column victory, and thats what he was doing. And its a matter of fact we know now in 2018 Trump wanted to pull out of NATO, and it was John Kelly and John Bolton who had to hold him down like a rabid dog to stop him from doing that. And if Trump had won a second term, he would have done it. But Biden being elected caused Putins plan to go up in smoke.[/QUOTE]So let's start with the easy one. Did Putin invade because of Biden? Yes. That is a helluva an admission. Your guy says Biden gave him no options. That is not good.

So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO? That is funny because Germany just bought a bunch of F-35's and is beefing up their military. You will have to explain to me how this is good for Russia.

And here is Trump being 100% correct about Germany at the 1:00 minute mark. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs[/URL].

CBS tries to make him out like a fool but Trump was totally correct. Why should I be paying for Germany's defense when Germans are throwing money at Russia? The Germans should be buying LNG from us not getting gas from Russia.

The funny part is how many Dems are so pro-war now they do not even stop to make any sense. We are paying to protect Europe from an invading Russia that could not even capture Ukraine and that got their asses kicked in Afghanistan. Why do we need to spend our money protecting Europe from Russia? The Russians have already lost more troops in Ukraine than we did in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You Dems keep making Putin into this uber villain when time and again he is proven to be a joke. I hope Trump does get rid of NATO. What purpose does it serve?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677180]Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.[/QUOTE][URL]https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/291436-defending-the-indefensible-journalistic-bias-at-the-new-york-times[/URL]

Nyt aka the maddow show.

[QUOTE=Canada;2677206]Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.[/QUOTE]Obviously, you looked, you know it's true and it really burns you that everyone else can easily know it too. LOL.

[QUOTE=Canada;2677206]Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.[/QUOTE]Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2677321]Oh really?

So let's start with the easy one. Did Putin invade because of Biden? Yes. That is a helluva an admission. Your guy says Biden gave him no options. That is not good.

So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO? That is funny because Germany just bought a bunch of F-35's and is beefing up their military. You will have to explain to me how this is good for Russia.

And here is Trump being 100% correct about Germany at the 1:00 minute mark. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs[/URL].

CBS tries to make him out like a fool but Trump was totally correct. Why should I be paying for Germany's defense when Germans are throwing money at Russia? The Germans should be buying LNG from us not getting gas from Russia.

The funny part is how many Dems are so pro-war now they do not even stop to make any sense. We are paying to protect Europe from an invading Russia that could not even capture Ukraine and that got their asses kicked in Afghanistan. Why do we need to spend our money protecting Europe from Russia? The Russians have already lost more troops in Ukraine than we did in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You Dems keep making Putin into this uber villain when time and again he is proven to be a joke. I hope Trump does get rid of NATO. What purpose does it serve?[/QUOTE]Yep, you're right that without Trump on hand to help Putin weaken NATO and the Western Alliance in order to overthrow democracies in Ukraine and around the world without mussing himself and as Trump and his fellow Repubs tried to do with American democracy on January 6, 2021 and every day since, Biden offered Putin no option even remotely similar to the one Trump graciously and enthusiastically provided his boyfriend.

But I have no idea what lunacy you're blathering about starting at "So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO" and everything that followed.

Do you?

Now, if you meant to write "Putin" invaded Ukraine in order to weaken NATO, well, that doesn't make any sense either. See, the idea and plan hatched between Putin and Trump was to weaken NATO first and then just pick off one democracy after another around the world and replace them with authoritarian dictatorships, no muss, no fuss, a cake walk.

And Trump did his part of that plan in the USA culminating on January 6, 2021 with state level Repubs continuing the effort by rigging ballot and voting laws to make it almost impossible for anyone but America-hating Repubs to "win" every election.

The Putin / Trump plan was fucked up by the free and fair election of Joe Biden.

Yeah, we know that the Putin / Trump plan to weaken NATO and then pick off democracies around the world back-fired on those two dudes badly and that NATO and the Western Alliance of democracies are stronger than ever before. See, that's why Putin is no longer thought to be smart but now looks like the dumb loser he is.

Say it with me; Thanks, Joe.

Of course, everyone knows Trump was always dumb, a fucking moron and for his boyfriend Putin, a useful idiot and one of the biggest losers of all time. But we might as well thank Joe for making that more abundantly clear than ever too.