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[QUOTE=BaltiX;2013999]Wouldn't banning prostitution goes against humans rights set by EU too? How the hell are they going to sue the German government with just 10,000 signature? Those feminists and their political allies are too naive and stupid to think they can abolish prostitution in Europe. Sometimes I wish Nazi Germany invaded and sacked Sweden during WWII. The good news is there is growing backlash towards the Swedish model.[/QUOTE]It against human right violation for us mongers LOL.

If they ilegalize prostitution or restrict it, it just goes underground and that would be worst for women and actually going back in time before legalizing prostitution LOL.

I just wait and see. I have a feeling (and I'm not the only one) that the ban on OWO would be just on paper. How the hell are authorities going to enforce it?

Any word on the BBBJ situation re: the new law ? What do we think the chances are of the FKK scene simply carrying on as it did before?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2014008]For many girls, they do not want to declare themselves as a prostitute as their occupation, so this new law is clearly against privacy issue related.

All I care is BBBJ part though. No BBBJ in german FKK then I got to shift county of mongering to Austria LOL or zurich LOL.

I would prefer Germany, so I hope BBBJ stay as it is or for one hour session.[/QUOTE]The problem for me will be that this will need to be negotiated with the girl, which adds a whole new level of annoyance, because some girls will try to get out of BBBJ. A big attraction for me is to be able to tap a girl on the shoulder and then 30 seconds later be putting my dick in her mouth. At Oase you can literally just say "suck my dick" to a girl who has just said Hello, and she will happily oblige right there and then. Can't imagine that happening anymore once they start saying "okay hang on I'll get a condom".

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2013999]The good news is there is growing backlash towards the Swedish model.[/QUOTE]The Swedish model is just plain stupid and wrong. It presumes that all prostitutes are simply "victims", and we all know that's pure grade bullshit! If prostitution is a problem, then just like dealing with illegal drugs, you'd need to attack it from both the supply and the demand side. I believe the best approach is to start with the premise that consenting adults should be able to do as they please together as long as neither of them are being physically injured or emotionally abused. Then, to ensure that both prostitute and client are protected, you put some regulation around it to keep everything on the up and up. There's a reason prostitution is called the world's oldest profession! It's not going away ever until the end of time, so we may as well accept that and come up with some sort of regime under which it can exist without causing harm to overall society or the people engaging in the profession, or the "hobby" as some here would call it.

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2014076]The problem for me will be that this will need to be negotiated with the girl, which adds a whole new level of annoyance, because some girls will try to get out of BBBJ. A big attraction for me is to be able to tap a girl on the shoulder and then 30 seconds later be putting my dick in her mouth. At Oase you can literally just say "suck my dick" to a girl who has just said Hello, and she will happily oblige right there and then. Can't imagine that happening anymore once they start saying "okay hang on I'll get a condom".[/QUOTE]Me too, this annoying negotiation and up sell will be the problem.

I know my strategy though.

I will offer one hour session which I often do anyways but with BBBJ. If she say no, then I will just go for 50 euro 30 minute session and fuck / bang her hard and cum and that is it. Then this will be the only use for me for german FKK. As for BBBJ I will just change my location of mongering to Austria and that is it and when I feel like to pay up for good service, I will goto globe zurich because if I have to pay for more than 100 euro for one hour BBBJ in german FKK, then it will make sense for me to just go to Zurich to Globe to pay 140 chf for 30 minutes for good service including good DFK, BBBJ etc and 30 minute is 30 minute there at globe unlike german FKK LOL.

Do I make some sense here?

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013913]Didn't Germany just legalized prostitution in 2001?

The legislators had made the decision 16 years ago, those feminists cannot overthrow it, can they?[/QUOTE]Thankfully, even 1 million signatures on a petition means nothing. Petitions are requests; anyone can request anything. Even a huge number of signatures on a petition is just a small fraction of the population.

Also, don't use "feminists" like this. There are many feminists who not only are not against the ban of prostitution, but actively work to support it. We need them on our side! (Or underneath us, as the case may be.).

Probably the most interesting development in this field recently is that Amnesty International has decided to support the legalization of prostitution.

Governments only listen to petitions, referendums, or demonstrations when they want to. Even 2 million means nothing unless it suits the Government. However such actions can be a useful part of a longer term political and social process.

[QUOTE=XXL;2013868]Yes folks, no sooner has the New Law been enacted than the fems are already petioning the EU for a blanket ban on prostitution.[/QUOTE]But it won't be called a prostitution ban, it will be like 2013 when certain EU factions tried to sneak through a ban on internet porn under a bill to "eliminate gender stereotypes". Then when people started writing to the commission to complain they turned on a filter which ditched any emails containing the word 'porn' or 'pornography'.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2014101]Me too, this annoying negotiation and up sell will be the problem. I know my strategy though.[/QUOTE]For me, it's going to be all about budgetary discipline. I like to stick to a budget of no more than 250 euros for each of my sessions. For that price (or less) in most parts of Germany, I can get an hour of sexual relations with a girl to my liking with BBBJ / CIM and anal. Now when the law changes, if girls want to upcharge 50 euros for a BBBJ, then OK. I can do that, but then I will have to forego on the CIM. This is OK with me because the truth is that I rarely ever did CIM anyway. Not in Germany. I just did it a lot during my last trip given the circumstances and wanting to have it without hassling over the price. And man did I encounter some damn good boner suckers last time LOL! So if I pay the 50 euros upcharge for a BBBJ but then forego on CIM, then I can stick to my 250 euros per session limit, and maybe only occasionally enjoy CIM if I encounter a really good cocksucker who turns me on! This is how I will do. What other choice to I have? BBBJ is important for me to have. So, this is what I must do while staying within budget at the same time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2014086]The Swedish model is just plain stupid and wrong. It presumes that all prostitutes are simply "victims", and we all know that's pure grade bullshit! If prostitution is a problem, then just like dealing with illegal drugs, you'd need to attack it from both the supply and the demand side. I believe the best approach is to start with the premise that consenting adults should be able to do as they please together as long as neither of them are being physically injured or emotionally abused. Then, to ensure that both prostitute and client are protected, you put some regulation around it to keep everything on the up and up. There's a reason prostitution is called the world's oldest profession! It's not going away ever until the end of time, so we may as well accept that and come up with some sort of regime under which it can exist without causing harm to overall society or the people engaging in the profession, or the "hobby" as some here would call it.[/QUOTE]The Swedish model doesn't even protect prostitutes. From what I read more sex workers have been arrested than Johns. Not to mention prostitution still exist in Sweden.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2014101]Me too, this annoying negotiation and up sell will be the problem.

I know my strategy though.

I will offer one hour session which I often do anyways but with BBBJ. If she say no, then I will just go for 50 euro 30 minute session and fuck / bang her hard and cum and that is it. Then this will be the only use for me for german FKK. As for BBBJ I will just change my location of mongering to Austria and that is it and when I feel like to pay up for good service, I will goto globe zurich because if I have to pay for more than 100 euro for one hour BBBJ in german FKK, then it will make sense for me to just go to Zurich to Globe to pay 140 chf for 30 minutes for good service including good DFK, BBBJ etc and 30 minute is 30 minute there at globe unlike german FKK LOL.

Do I make some sense here?[/QUOTE]This will likely be unnecessary. Even if some girls are trying to upsell on this basis, you should just look disappointed and walk away. Then, go ask other girls. Then wait awhile. The girls you initially asked will come around to you again when they aren't making their rooms and they will be more willing on their second approach.

Or, you can just approach the very same girls later and ask them how they are doing and look interested in them. When they inevitably pop the question about the room, simply remind them of your stipulation, and they will be more accommodating than they were during your first approach.

When a girl tries to upsell, her offer should not be viewed as a fixed price but instead, nothing more than a first offer.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2014223]For me, it's going to be all about budgetary discipline. I like to stick to a budget of no more than 250 euros for each of my sessions. For that price (or less) in most parts of Germany, I can get an hour of sexual relations with a girl to my liking with BBBJ / CIM and anal. Now when the law changes, if girls want to upcharge 50 euros for a BBBJ, then OK. I can do that, but then I will have to forego on the CIM. This is OK with me because the truth is that I rarely ever did CIM anyway. Not in Germany. I just did it a lot during my last trip given the circumstances and wanting to have it without hassling over the price. And man did I encounter some damn good boner suckers last time LOL! So if I pay the 50 euros upcharge for a BBBJ but then forego on CIM, then I can stick to my 250 euros per session limit, and maybe only occasionally enjoy CIM if I encounter a really good cocksucker who turns me on! This is how I will do. What other choice to I have? BBBJ is important for me to have. So, this is what I must do while staying within budget at the same time.[/QUOTE]Man,

I am willing to go for one hour with BBBJ but to pay just for BBBJ 50 euro is not acceptable LOL.

If girls tells me that in room, I just go for 50 euro 30 minute session and I will fuck her hard in pussy LOL.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2014353]This will likely be unnecessary. Even if some girls are trying to upsell on this basis, you should just look disappointed and walk away. Then, go ask other girls. Then wait awhile. The girls you initially asked will come around to you again when they aren't making their rooms and they will be more willing on their second approach.

Or, you can just approach the very same girls later and ask them how they are doing and look interested in them. When they inevitably pop the question about the room, simply remind them of your stipulation, and they will be more accommodating than they were during your first approach.

When a girl tries to upsell, her offer should not be viewed as a fixed price but instead, nothing more than a first offer.[/QUOTE]This is the point I was making, I hate this negotiation thing in FKK LOL.

Plus if I pay up just for BBBJ, it is more simple for me to goto globe as price will be in same range but service much higher.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2014245]The Swedish model doesn't even protect prostitutes. From what I read more sex workers have been arrested than Johns. Not to mention prostitution still exist in Sweden.[/QUOTE]Prostitution exist in Sweden? Really? Mr, you are about to put me on flight to Stockholm LOL.

I want to fuck nice Swedish blonde girls, where do I find them and for how much are they? What is best swedish escort?

And tell me there is BBBJ LOL.