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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1964351]La Dolce: Around 10, just about ten girls. Around 12:30, 30+, and a lot of hotties! NO cover.[/QUOTE]According to the girl I met yesterday night at Reloy, who works there, at LDV there is a minimum charge of 100 k drinks for those who grab a girl. I remember I read here about 80 k before. It must be the new location thing.
Please note that I was NEVER asked to pay that minimum amount by the waiters the few times I took a girl from LDV. Certainly, when I am there I am not a stingy one, I drink one cocktail minimum and I offer it to say minimum a couple of girls, and I leave tips to waiters, but the key thing is that I always set a meeting somewhere with my girl about half an hour later. <g .
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1964321] and we went to Espace (I added "E" to make it sound local), a. K. a. "Epaice". The shutter was half closed at 3 am. WTF?? Explanation: the ley imposes to close at 2 am, so they close the shutter but keep the party on till 6 am. Ok fine.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I have seen one of the worst pages ever. It seems that the Alcalde decided to make Cartagena a better place for tourists and those who voted for him happy. So what? More cleaners around the streets? More security at night out of the walls? Less drugs? Less touts and sellers on the beach? NO. Now all bars must close at 2 am even on Saturday.
You know, there is a lot of people, also in Colombia, who think that the best way to spend the Saturday is at home in front of TV. The Alcalde wants everyone adopt this lifestyle, including the tourists who come here and spend a lot of money to sustaing the local economy.
So, at 2 am, a huge force of Policia Metropolitana, some officers with red jacket, professional photo operators (local press? Police agents?) moved compact to fight the vice and the crime. No, they did not look for pandilleros, but they went to Space to enforce the closing. Drama with the manager complaining strongly, the photo operators grabbing the scene and the customers, et cetera et cetera (fu*cking autocorrector, I must write it complete to avoid the mess and the need to re-edit my text).
I think that yesterday the boss of Space omitted to pay his bribe to someone, because the Tu Candela was open till after 4 am instead (front door closed, but vibrating because of the music inside, back door open, usual 10 k cover). WTF. What's the purpose to close bars at 2 am on Saturday?? To make the Centro silent and lonely like years ago, when it was a dangeros place?
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;1964639]According to the girl I met yesterday night at Reloy, who works there, at LDV there is a minimum charge of 100 k drinks for those who grab a girl. I remember I read here about 80 k before. It must be the new location thing.
Please note that I was NEVER asked to pay that minimum amount by the waiters the few times I took a girl from LDV. Certainly, when I am there I am not a stingy one, I drink one cocktail minimum and I offer it to say minimum a couple of girls, and I leave tips to waiters, but the key thing is that I always set a meeting somewhere with my girl about half an hour later.[/QUOTE]I was asked to drink the minimum at the old place too. Most of the time I did but after that I always did the "meet me outside" thing whether I drank enough or not. If the girl is a veteran she will say she don't care and vamos. It is mostly the new girls that are scared and want to follow the rules.
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Anyone know what happened to the old cigarette and gum selling guy outside of LDV? A chica told me he died like 6 months ago. He was a nice guy, always remembered me every time I came into town.
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Hi guys,
I'll be in Cartagena tomorrow for 3 nights and wanted to ask if someone could share a link to a "master list" (if someone has compiled one for Cartagena) of casas or places to go to find chicas?
Thanks.
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The List and Map
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=TurboST;1965992]Hi guys,
I'll be in Cartagena tomorrow for 3 nights and wanted to ask if someone could share a link to a "master list" (if someone has compiled one for Cartagena) of casas or places to go to find chicas?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hioctane;1964725]Anyone know what happened to the old cigarette and gum selling guy outside of LDV? A chica told me he died like 6 months ago. He was a nice guy, always remembered me every time I came into town.[/QUOTE]The chica told you correctly. Boobi had been having some health issues. My understanding is that he died from cardiac arrest. May he RIP.
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Wifed up
Cartagena is 100% better for me and to my speed. Chicas are out on the beach during the day and start going to the old city at night.
It took me 30 minutes of walking the beach before I met a blanquita from (drum beat) Medellin with a nice set of buttcheeks (Nalgas). Bought her a couple of beers and we both got hats for 30 k which was too much I think. Got ripped off for the beers but fuck it. She said let's not come here anymore.
She said she would spend time with me for 200 k. We fucked went to the old city for lunch, chatted a fuck load. I got her a ticket to go to Playa Blanca with me tommorow and she is bringing her shit over. I am going to give her about 200 k a day at the end which I think is fair.
The only additonal expense is the new bikini I bought her but fuck it. She's letting me go bareback. This shit is super rare.
Fuck the touts on the beach. Rip off artists. Don't deal with them at all.
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[QUOTE=TurboST;1965992]Hi guys,
I'll be in Cartagena tomorrow for 3 nights and wanted to ask if someone could share a link to a "master list" (if someone has compiled one for Cartagena) of casas or places to go to find chicas?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Do you know there is a "Cartagena List" thread on this ISG Board? And that there you'll find the List and even a map?
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Cartagena wrap up
Summary of my five days in Cartagena:
Day 1: I just explored the beach and Torre del Reloj. There are girls on the beach in the afternoon and I'd say starting around 9 pm the girls start showing up at Torre del Reloj in the old city. I was too tired my first day to pick up any so I just went home after having a quick dinner. I also found LDV by asking a working girl to show it to me. I felt sorry for her because she was Venezuelan and really desperate for a date (you could see the sadness in her eyes when I refused her) so I gave her 20 k for the 15 minutes I took from her time and wished her and her friend luck. These Venezuelans are going through a very rough time right now. It doesn't hurt to show them a little extra kindness with a propina.
Day 2: Got a tout to "call" me a girl. This was in the morning. I quickly realized these dudes are scam artists that just act as middle men. I'm pretty sure you can buy your own beers from the small bars on the beach in Bocagrande, get your own breakfast etc. But alas I had to learn the lesson the hard way. The girl didn't show up until noon, and I got a message from WhatsApp to come down. She was a beautiful blanquita from Medellin. I have more on her backstory further down with some interesting info on the Isis club. We immediately got to talking and I ordered us a couple of beers. The conversation was going very well. She was surprised at my level of Spanish (and frankly I was surprised at how well I was speaking). By the end of the conversation we were both laughing and getting a good vibe. Before getting the bill from the tout for the drinks, I mentioned I would prefer to go with no condom with her. I told her very plainly that my previous long term relationship with a working girl was all bareback and that I was used to that. She thought about it for a moment and asked me if I ever had an STD. I told her never because I prefer to only stick to one girl for a long period of time.
It's actually true. You lower your risk level significantly by having sex with fewer partners so sticking to one lowers that even more.
In any case, the inflated bill arrived, I got angry, and discussed it with the tout for a good 15 minutes before I just paid him in disgust. The girl told me, as we walked back to my apartment building, never to order anything from those guys.
The initial service was excellent. French kissing, blow job, bare back sex. Full of energy and wild. I loved it. After I finished in her for the second time I realized it was getting late and we were both hungry. We showered, got dressed, and headed into the old city for some lunch. We talked about all kinds of topics while holding hands and exploring in the heat. Then we went back to the apartment for more fucking, followed by a siesta, dinner, and a bit of dancing. She also brought her travel bag over with all her clothes. At this point I had only paid her 200 k.
Quick note about the chica: She spent the entire time with me. She made breakfast every day. Made coffee everytime she thought I wanted one. Cleaned the apartment when it needed some cleaning and even did my laundry. Very very good girl who was always aiming to please. Sometimes too much. She would never assert herself and I found it hard to gauge what she did not like because of it.
Day 3: I had a ticket to Playa Blanca so I paid the tourist guy for a second ticket and we both went. Touts were everywhere. It wasn't the worst experience since I learned how to deal with them but still, we ended up paying a guy 50 k just to watch our shit while we went out on a jet ski. We were fucking tired by 6 pm when we got back to the apartment so we mostly just slept in and ate fast food. We did get up by 11 pm I decided to discuss her full payment as there were two days left. I told her I'd give her 200 k a day for a total of 800 k. She agreed but on the condition that I paid an additional 100 k per day for a "multa" or fine she had to pay. This piqued my interest so I nicely asked her to explain her situation:
Evidently she lived in a house with 30 other women, and she claimed 5 were in a room with her. Now remember to take this all with a grain of salt. Evidently she's a dancer at Isis occasionally to supplement her income. On days she does not work she has to pay 100 k to the "empressa," because they fly her in from Medellin to work and not sit around. Now which business that is I didn't ask but I started to get a picture of things. She said it's not easy money but quick money to work there so when she accumulates debt she takes vacation time from her work to fly to Cartagena and work the club. She told me she was done working that club (not sure if that's true but whatever) because she didn't like the customers.
Day 4: I had some Colombian friends visiting Cartagena. So after breakfast I offered to buy her a new camisa. She surprisingly resisted. When we went in she kept asking me which camisa she should get. I encouraged her to find one she likes. She eventually tried on a couple and I pointed to a nice one piece dress she could get for the night. I ended up buying all three for a little over $100. She looked more normal in the new shirt and less slutty. My Colombian friends would not approve of a prepago. I think one of them suspected but I assured her the girl I brought with me was just a Colombian girl interested in meeting an extranjero. My Colombian friends left Cartagena around 4 pm. They were doing a roadtrip all the way to Santa Marta to visit family. The girl and I went back to my apartment, fucked, slept in, and then got dressed for a night out on the town. This included dinner, doing the coach tour in the old city and hitting up Tu Candela for drinks and dancing. She looked stunning in the new dress I bought her.
Day 5: We mostly spent in the apartment eating whatever food we had left in the fridge and fucking. My flight was late in the afternoon. She helped me pack, and made sure all my clothes were cleaned and folded.
Great girl. I told her after navidad we could do something in January or February. She told me she was happy to go exploring other countries with me. I asked if I would have to pay her for her time and she said I wouldn't. But we'll see.
Some additional notes:
* A girl on tinder wanted 300 k for 2 hours. I told her 150 k for one hour and she refused. Offering 200 k for 1 hour sin condom for the blowjob part. Naturally I didn't bother as I had already met this girl.
* This girl has a real corporate job with four weeks of vacation a year. I think this fits the definition of "semi pro. ".
* There's an on-and-off novio in the mix who looks a bit like me hahaha. The last long-term hooker I had had the same thing. It's weird that way. It's like they fight with their novio then run off with the foreigner for a couple of months, then go back, and on and on it goes.
Cartagena is more expensive than Medellin. The only thing cheap about it was the great apartment I got with a huge balcony over looking the ocean on Bocagrande. Everything else cost more.
Have fun!
EDIT: BTW, the girls in the Torre del Reloj are independents at least according to the chica I was with. Also from what I could see they all dress mostly elegantly. I saw very little obvious slutiness. You could easily take one out dancing and then back to your place for fucking. Something I wished I could do but the chica would have split on me if I pulled that shit.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1967471]It's actually true. You lower your risk level significantly by having sex with fewer partners so sticking to one lowers that even more.[/QUOTE]Not many contributors to ISG stick to one partner in all their life. Best wishes to you and the girl.
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;1967555]Not many contributors to ISG stick to one partner in all their life. Best wishes to you and the girl.[/QUOTE]I may end up using one of the latin dating sites in the future because you're right. I think I'm going down the wrong venues for what I'm looking. Probably cheaper to pay $20 for a month subscription and see what I can find on one of those dating sites.
In the meantime this one is super tranquilo, and good. The only complaint I have is her nose is a bit big but fuck it.
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Jajajjajaajjjaa!!
Jajajjajaajjjaa!!
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1967555]Not many contributors to ISG stick to one partner in all their life. Best wishes to you and the girl.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1967808]I may end up using one of the latin dating sites in the future because you're right. I think I'm going down the wrong venues for what I'm looking. Probably cheaper to pay $20 for a month subscription and see what I can find on one of those dating sites.
In the meantime this one is super tranquilo, and good. The only complaint I have is her nose is a bit big but fuck it.[/QUOTE]IMO that's a better idea. What you're doing can be dangerous if you're susceptible to developing feelings for these girls. If you know you won't develop feelings, then it's not a problem, but it can happen to the most cold-hearted hobbyist. And it always ends badly.
Much better to develop feelings for a non-pro.
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[QUOTE=Chesscat;1967810]Jajajjajaajjjaa!![/QUOTE]Did everyone understand what I meant?
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;1967818]Did everyone understand what I meant?[/QUOTE]I think you were sarcastically pointing out sticking to one provider was a bit against the point of this hobby, and I agree, but I hate using condoms and this is the safest route.
Otherwise it's one girl after another saying no to bareback.
[QUOTE=Combo;1967811]IMO that's a better idea. What you're doing can be dangerous if you're susceptible to developing feelings for these girls. If you know you won't develop feelings, then it's not a problem, but it can happen to the most cold-hearted hobbyist. And it always ends badly.
Much better to develop feelings for a non-pro.[/QUOTE]
100% right. The last one drove me a bit over the wall when she wanted to quit her prepago job and go straight. She had every opportunity to just get a regular job and enough support from her wealthy family to do so. Instead she fucked it up, and my hopes of her becoming a regular girlfriend quickly vanished. I'm much more realistic now.