Makati

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Pre-pademic it was barfine + tip, where tip was: Hottie = 6 k (no compromise / negotiation); Fair girls = 5 k requested, possible negotiation down to 4 k; Fuglies = 4 or 5 k requested, usually negotiate down to 3-4 k. Even older fuglies who were too old to be GRO's, such as a fat late 40's massage lady, if available, would not budge below 3 k on tip....

Happy to hear someone got a gogo to negotiate.[/QUOTE]Are you saying my Bottoms girl was a Fuglie? LOL. . .

Challenge accepted:

My last trip to Bali, on the way to a high end Massage++ (would have been a $200 day), I got a WhatsApp. Girlie is broke so will include her twin sister in the deal. Plus, buy one shot get the second shot free. End deal is two twins, two shots, as long as I want, 1. 5 million Rupiah (just under 6000 p).

[QUOTE=Goferring;2683588]Well when it rains, it pours.....[/QUOTE]Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2745768]Challenge accepted:

My last trip to Bali, on the way to a high end Massage++ (would have been a $200 day), I got a WhatsApp. Girlie is broke so will include her twin sister in the deal. Plus, buy one shot get the second shot free. End deal is two twins, two shots, as long as I want, 1. 5 million Rupiah (just under 6000 p).[/QUOTE]These kinds of 1-offs happen everywhere, when a girl gets desperate. Have had the occasional model or influencer contact me in dire need. Interesting that in Phils, these types of higher-end girls still live in squalor with their family or boyfriend. One gent informed me that he gave one of these girls p10 k per ST (she stays all afternoon, no rush on the clock, for the second pop), and had her reserved twice a week. That's p20 k per week from just one guy. When I had her, she kept waffling the price down (at certain times, at other times she was simply not available at my kuripot price). Her IG and FB (separate accounts for both, for herself / friends / family, another professional) showed 2 different lifestyles.

One evening in a rough part of Manila I passed a street that I recognized from her family FB page from a picture of her and friends. This was where she lived? I pulled out my phone and pulled up a pic of me and Jennifer, a selfie that she snapped (always a narcissist) of us at Starbucks using my phone. I cropped myself out of the pic, and showed the pic of her to several local girls passing by, asking if they knew the girl. "Jennifer? Yes she lives there", and they pointed to a set of shacks that appeared to be about to collapse at any moment. Sheer luck to find someone that way. I walked on. I'm sure that my presence was chismosa'd to her the next day that a foreigner had asked about her. WTF is she (and her fam) doing living there, while raking in p80 k per month (from just one guy, probably 100 k per month or more total)?

These kind of 1-offs happen routinely to girls in Phils. Yesterday she was a p10 k girl, today (emergency! Must pay the electric TODAY, why didn't she pay it YESTERDAY?) she's a p2000 girl. Have been the recipient of these emergencies (whether from an influencer / model or just a local po gal) too many times to count.

Sir G: You have titillated us. Got a pic by chance for us lesser-fortunates?

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These kind of 1-offs happen routinely to girls in Phils. Yesterday she was a p10 k girl, today (emergency! Must pay the electric TODAY, why didn't she pay it YESTERDAY?) she's a p2000 girl. Have been the recipient of these emergencies (whether from an influencer / model or just a local po gal) too many times to count.

Sir G: You have titillated us. Got a pic by chance for us lesser-fortunates?[/QUOTE]1/ It's amazing how poor money managers the girls are and how quickly it disappears should the tap get shut off. Many similar stories to yours during the various bombings, SARS, volcanoes etc of girls weighed down with gold and diamonds one day and absolutely flat broke two days later.

2/ Sorry, I never take in-coitus photos. Their promo shot is attached to the original post link in my earlier message.

Enjoy. G.

For WC1's viewing pleasure.

Open the "View Original Post" link.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2683588]Well when it rains, it pours.

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[QUOTE=Goferring;2746043]For WC1's viewing pleasure.

Open the "View Original Post" link.[/QUOTE]Holy f*ck I missed that until just now!

On another note. The little birdie tells me that something new is happening on Burgos. Previously the birdie told me that it heard construction sounds inside the place between Fyre and V8. Few days ago a large dump truck was seen outside by the birdie, being filled with broken cement from inside, and a new door. What next? The birdie thinks a new resto or gogo is coming.

Lion's Pride, across from the defunct Jools / Horizons, is closed, several nights running. The little birdie tells me that a large truck was outside Sunday morning, and workers were carting out chairs, tables, and sundry other items to the truck. Guessing that having almost no customers in the bar night after night might be the cause. To be fair to the bar, there were a few parties for whales, but not enough.

Reporting from ASB-ISG-GAM news, this is West E. Coast.

Remember: White is cool. Brown is warm (and supple). Red is hot. Skinny is wonderful. 19 is great.

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. However I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated!

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

I still need time to get my bearings clearly.

G.

Its an odd bar. Eating / drinking area outside.

Inside its a small live band place, seats about 40, see pic. But they have GRO's whom the mama won't refer to as GRO (older, fair looking). They dress in street clothes or clubbing clothes. Was in again, a week ago. Mamasan brought me 3 girls from outside before I had a chance to get a beer on the table. The girls sat with me uninvited by me. The mama asked if I wanted to buy them a drink and I declined. She chat me for 10 minutes and asked me to buy them a drink 7 times. Downed my beer, paid the tab, and left. The band, which I came to see, was pretty good. But the mama was driving me crazy with drink requests. The door is to the left of this pic. There is a pool table to the right, in the back of the bar.

Came back a few nights ago to a different band (not bad). The mama stayed away and I didn't get hassled for anything. The place has a nice vibe to it.

Separately I walked into Amor's a few nights ago (Ebro St, behind V8 on Burgos). Same strange vibe, and I was the only customer (again). Turned and walked out.

[QUOTE=GahRunt;2749259]Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated![/QUOTE]It can be REALLY hard to guess an Asian girl's age. Young look old, old look young so guessing if a 19 yo is legal or not is a mine field.

What did you do to piss her off about showing her ID? If you insulted her and she is angry, then fair enough. If she is just using it as an excuse to hide her ID and age, then it's a major red flag.

Having a coffee, meal etc with a young girl is no big deal. However, being alone in your room with her half / fully naked can have extremely serious consequences. I'd suggest you have a word with security and let them know that should you both return you want them to check, verify and keep her ID. This is standard practice at many hotels but you don't want to fall though and gaps.

Of course, many will say with millions of safe options, why even take the risk. Just move into girl #768346.

Take care. G.

[QUOTE=GahRunt;2749316]In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha. [/QUOTE]I'm with Goferring, if she got mad at the idea of showing her ID, then she's trying to hide it. Ask her again to see it on cam, tell her you want to make sure of her age. Then meet in a pubic place for coffee / snack. Look again at her ID and take a picture of it. She should not be defensive about any of this, as she will be aware that your hotel guard will force her to surrender it anyway once at the front door and show it to you if you ask to see it. Guards are also pretty good about spotting a fake these days.

If her ID has her picture taped on with scotch tape, its fake. If the pic is clearly not her, its fake (well it might be real, but its not hers). If the ID is past its expiry date there is a chance the guard won't accept it as valid. If there is no place on her ID for her signature, its not valid. College ID's are no longer considered valid (ID's must come from a government source, have a pic, a signature, a birth date, and almost always have a bar code or black stripe and other security holographic features). Most guards will accept a non-expired Barangay ID as long as its a small credit card-sized and either is laminated or is the newer plastic credit-card type (with holography, not a piece of paper). A piece of paper is never a valid ID. Vaccine cards are not a form of ID, but I took several girls in the past few months where it was accepted (the card had the girl's pic on it).

I also had a girl tell me she had a valid ID, then at the guard she showed on her phone a pic of her legit CITY OF MANILA COVID-19 VACCINATION ID, which is a pretty good ID. It had her picture, full name, Brgy number, birthdate, a QR code, and dosage dates. But it doesn't have a signature area. Its the same electronic vax record that I have. It was not accepted by the guard for two reasons, according to him: 1) There was no signature area; and 2) It was just an electronic pic on her phone. "If I will accept this then the girl will need to surrender her phone as the ID is inside the phone. Sorry". Well, he's probably right. Interesting that the girl said its her first rejection using her legit vax.

Another residence was requiring a surrendered ID and they wanted to view the girl's vax card (required for all entry at the time). I made sure that I photographed several of my regular's vax cards as they always had an ID, but having their vax card on them is happenstance. Surrendering her ID and showing her vax card on my phone worked.

If she is not willing to show you her (valid) ID, move on.

All's well that ends well. Thanks Westie and Goferring for the sage advice.

Turns out she just has a short fuse. After asking me to book a grab and me taking 5 minutes to work out how, she says "I don't like being ignored" and "Forget it, I have stuff to do anyway". I suggested I just GCash her some taxi money and she did a 180 haha. Sent 1 k which was a little generous but I wanted to send a message that I wasn't a waste of time.

She messaged me when she got here and admitted to being nervous. She showed up to my hotel lobby with her auntie as she didn't know the area well. The aunt's presence caught me off guard but I'd read reports of girls using family as escorts before so the concept wasn't utterly foreign to me. She tells me her auntie was a hottie in her day and wound up marrying a chinese guy and popping out a litter of chinito's.

Anyway, ID was left at the front desk so my fears were for nought.

She met me with nervous giggling so. Gentleman that I am. I took her to a bar to chat and assuage her fears. I'm 6'2" and looking at our reflection in the elevator I was fucking floored at how tiny she is. 4'10", 47 kg and non existent tits, I got a raging stiff right there and then.

We chatted a bit, but it was mainly her talking about her chinese exes and how she's only into asian guys. Into the room and she immediately puts on some pinoy dramas. I try to make moves and she's a little standoff-ish so I gave her an out and told her if she didn't want this, just say so, no harm done.

Was definitely just nerves, because as soon as I started kissing her neck and groping her ass, she pushed my hand towards her ****. Eating her out and fingering her gspot had her writhing and saying "fuck you" and "tau ni ma" (chinese for 'fuck you' I think). I found this hilarious! Is it a cultural thing to cuss the person giving you head? I'll do so next time I'm throating a young pinay to verify.

This one liked it hard and deep and I happily obliged. The nymph came a few times in mish and doggy before I filled her up in prone. She's now laying in bed watching the same dramas and isn't very chatty so I'll probably have to make an excuse to get rid of her. I wouldn't mind spending more time with her, except she doesn't make great company.

Says her dad gives her an allowance and that she paid for the condo she was staying in previously with an ex so unsure if she's expecting to be paid so I'll assume not until she brings it up.

I had low expectations coming to PH. Many told me the talents have dried up and it's not as p4 p friendly as it was pre pandemic. Still, I wanted to experience the islands for myself, wanting to decide on a semi permanent retirement location. I'd already been to VN and Thailand.

I started my trip with a short stay in Makati. A friend recommended I stay near P. Burgos, PH's walking street. I stayed in Isabelle Royale hotel. The listing showed 500 for guest fees. But the front desk security guy didn't say anything when I brought a lady from Tinder inside.

For the most part, PH was really bad for mongering. I went to Heartbeat Mega KTV. I believe it was about 1500 pesos / HR for their "performers" and 1400/ HR for their models. I selected a performer and spent about 3 hrs and 4 drinks. It was just ok. Maybe worth experiencing if you have the extra cash. But you're not really missing out on much if you forego.

Next was P. BURGOS itself. There are female touts selling "massage". Most are below average looking. I followed one OK looking lady into a massage shop and was quoted 500 P for an HR. But I wasn't too interested and left. Most of the gogo bars open at 8. I went to two of the bars. One hardly had any talent worth mentioning. Another (neon nights) had 2 out of 20 ladies that had cute faces. One of them had a small gut that detracted from her face. A few girls came over to ask for lady drinks while my friend and I were drinking our beers, scoping the talent. About an HR later, we left.

Finally, as my last option, I checked out some Tinder listings. I got matched with a very cute Vietnamese / Filipina. We didn't talk about pricing, so I wasn't sure if she was a pro or civie. She asked me to pay for her gran (400 P). She had a really nice body and I started to grind up against her ass. After we fucked, she asked for payment. I gave her 4 k and she was appalled. We argued for a while. Not wanting any potential legal problems, I paid another 1 k for her to leave.

The talent was disappointing in Makati. But I think it wouldn't have been too bad if the condo was decent. But it was really old, smelly, and small. If you decide to visit Manila, and a nice, clean, spacious condo is important to you, I recommend staying in the BGC area, which is supposed to be one of the newest "luxury" areas of manila.

Lastly, on my final night in Manila, I visited 2 clubs. First was XYLO in BGC. It looked really nice and upscale. But you need to get a table to enter and the minimum cost for getting a table is 6 k pesos. We went inside, but the scene wasn't that great. It seems like a luxury lounge for you to come with friends.

Next club was ZZYXZ. This was probably the highlight of my Manila trip. The girls were really cute with a good amount of freelancers. The male customers were mostly Koreans. Music was really good. Getting a table required a minimum 2 k order.

Being as disappointed as I was with the talent, I decided to skip Angeles and enjoy the rest of my stay in Cebu.

The trip may have been better if I had more time and tried out the dating apps. But for a quick trip, Manila was most disappointing.

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Next club was ZZYXZ. This was probably the highlight of my Manila trip. The girls were really cute with a good amount of freelancers. The male customers were mostly Koreans. Music was really good. Getting a table required a minimum 2 k order.

Being as disappointed as I was with the talent, I decided to skip Angeles and enjoy the rest of my stay in Cebu.

The trip may have been better if I had more time and tried out the dating apps. But for a quick trip, Manila was most disappointing.[/QUOTE]It is good to hear ZZYXZ is still going strong: pre-pandemic pic below.