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Hi allI've taken a lot from the forum and wanted to try to give something back. A little history I'm in a sexless marriage, have a decently high sex drive, but am partially bacteriaphobic. It's a really shitty combination.I can assure over the last few years I've gone down a slow road progressing into a full service experience. I finally hit that barrier yesterday and decided to try out Yoshiwara. So I walked down to the area and asked what I thought was a tencho if Gaijin were ok (I speak passable Japanese). He said yes, and led me into a cafe (I felt pretty stupid about that since I didn't even get the shop right) but told me there were a ton of shops in the area and he'd call one to come over and bring some pictures. While I was waiting, we chatted about about the soaps and he said that the girls are tested 3 times a month. He said he'd refer me to a high end one, which was fine by me and then a guy dropped by with some pictures.Since it was my first time, they gave me a few suggestions, and the girls in the pictures were decent. I wasn't expecting super hot, and I wasn't expecting the girl exactly the same (based on what everyone has posted here).So the girl (she didn't have any cards to give me) I think Hiraka, was really nice. I let her know this is my first time and I was a little concerned about safe sex. She said no problem and we did what is usually described in these posts.Everything was good and enjoyable, but a little mechanical. I got the first CBJ in the bath and it was actually going great but after a few minutes she stopped and we moved to the mat. When we got into FS on the mat things were ok, but it was hard to really get a good feeling with the condom on. I haven't had a lot of sex partners, and the few times my wife and I do it, it is always unprotected. So I'm not used to having condoms on. Long story short, I didn't finish. And believe me, it had nothing to do with the fact that she just average. I need a slump buster more than anyone else. I was a little hungover, had worked out that morning, it is a long hot walk from the station, and I'm still jetlagged from my trip over. I don't know if it was that or the fact that once the condom seemed to dull the sensitivity I was focusing on trying to finish as soon as possible. I don't know. When I got on top I was going to just try to pound it out but I got the distinct feeling it wasn't going to happen so I gave up after a few minutes. Plus time was getting short, and as mentioned before the whole thing was a bit too mechanical.I don't know if this is just rookie jitters or if I just suck or what. Finishing would have been great, although I am happy with the experience I got, so I'm not pissed off or anything. I was thinking of trying a dei cafe today but I'm wondering if I'm just not cut out for this. Plus I'm thinking I probably need a pro to get me over this kind of hurdle and these cafe chicks are part time.I have a good sense of humor about the whole thing so feel free to have a good laugh at the story. But if anyone has any tips or anything, it'd be greatly appreciated.Thanks!

[QUOTE=Fac50]Hi allI've taken a lot from the forum and wanted to try to give something back. A little history I'm in a sexless marriage, have a decently high sex drive, but am partially bacteriaphobic. It's a really shitty combination.I can assure over the last few years I've gone down a slow road progressing into a full service experience. I finally hit that barrier yesterday and decided to try out Yoshiwara. So I walked down to the area and asked what I thought was a tencho if Gaijin were ok (I speak passable Japanese). He said yes, and led me into a cafe (I felt pretty stupid about that since I didn't even get the shop right) but told me there were a ton of shops in the area and he'd call one to come over and bring some pictures. While I was waiting, we chatted about about the soaps and he said that the girls are tested 3 times a month. He said he'd refer me to a high end one, which was fine by me and then a guy dropped by with some pictures.Since it was my first time, they gave me a few suggestions, and the girls in the pictures were decent. I wasn't expecting super hot, and I wasn't expecting the girl exactly the same (based on what everyone has posted here).So the girl (she didn't have any cards to give me) I think Hiraka, was really nice. I let her know this is my first time and I was a little concerned about safe sex. She said no problem and we did what is usually described in these posts.Everything was good and enjoyable, but a little mechanical. I got the first CBJ in the bath and it was actually going great but after a few minutes she stopped and we moved to the mat. When we got into FS on the mat things were ok, but it was hard to really get a good feeling with the condom on. I haven't had a lot of sex partners, and the few times my wife and I do it, it is always unprotected. So I'm not used to having condoms on. Long story short, I didn't finish. And believe me, it had nothing to do with the fact that she just average. I need a slump buster more than anyone else. I was a little hungover, had worked out that morning, it is a long hot walk from the station, and I'm still jetlagged from my trip over. I don't know if it was that or the fact that once the condom seemed to dull the sensitivity I was focusing on trying to finish as soon as possible. I don't know. When I got on top I was going to just try to pound it out but I got the distinct feeling it wasn't going to happen so I gave up after a few minutes. Plus time was getting short, and as mentioned before the whole thing was a bit too mechanical.I don't know if this is just rookie jitters or if I just suck or what. Finishing would have been great, although I am happy with the experience I got, so I'm not pissed off or anything. I was thinking of trying a dei cafe today but I'm wondering if I'm just not cut out for this. Plus I'm thinking I probably need a pro to get me over this kind of hurdle and these cafe chicks are part time.I have a good sense of humor about the whole thing so feel free to have a good laugh at the story. But if anyone has any tips or anything, it'd be greatly appreciated.Thanks![/QUOTE]A girl that you felt attracted to would make a big difference. Also a GFE experience might be what you are looking for. A lot of guys feel they need to be "wanted" in order to enjoy the experience. So, they have affairs instead of mongering. If you can find a good GFE pro, I think you will have no trouble performing. Casting call to all of you out there, who should he try?

I snipped a bunch of what you wrote and left the highlights. First, without knowing your age, unless you're a 19yo with incredible hormone surges there is nothing that anyone should be laughing about with your experience.Second, you have so many negative contributing factors I don't even know where to start. You were hung over, just worked out, the weather was hot and muggy, you were jet-lagged, a first-timer, not used to the feel of using a condom and nervous about infection.Gee, you may have well had shot your unit with Novocaine to make sure you were not going to finish. I think you just had too many things going against you to have any chance of success. The workout, hang over and jet-lag are three things you could easily control by waiting.Try increasing your chances of success next time by reducing the number of negative contributors. You set yourself up for failure.Being nervous about infection is a good thing. We all should be. But, that goes away with experience and staying safe.[QUOTE=Fac50]Hi all<snip>have a decently high sex drive, but am partially bacteriaphobic.<snip>I was a little concerned about safe sex. <snip>but it was hard to really get a good feeling with the condom on. I haven't had a lot of sex partners, and the few times my wife and I do it, it is always unprotected. So I'm not used to having condoms on. Long story short, I didn't finish. And believe me, it had nothing to do with the fact that she just average. I need a slump buster more than anyone else. <snip>I was a little hungover, had worked out that morning, it is a long hot walk from the station, and I'm still jetlagged from my trip over. I don't know if it was that or the fact that once the condom seemed to dull the sensitivity I was focusing on trying to finish as soon as possible. I don't know. I don't know if this is just rookie jitters or if I just suck or what. Finishing would have been great, although I am happy with the experience I got, so I'm not pissed off or anything. <snip>I have a good sense of humor about the whole thing so feel free to have a good laugh at the story. But if anyone has any tips or anything, it'd be greatly appreciated.Thanks![/QUOTE]

Next time you could also do sumata (between thighs) or handjob you get more sensation than with a condom, and no bacteria. Many women are quite skillful at making it feel like the real thing. It is also cheaper.If during FS with a condom you run out of steam, just pull out, take the condom off, lay down, relax, let her work it a little till you perk up then try again. Shit if they like you some of them let you back in without the condom. Or let her finish the job with a handjob or blowjob.[QUOTE=Fac50]...Everything was good and enjoyable, but a little mechanical. I got the first CBJ in the bath and it was actually going great but after a few minutes she stopped and we moved to the mat. When we got into FS on the mat things were ok, but it was hard to really get a good feeling with the condom on. I haven't had a lot of sex partners, and the few times my wife and I do it, it is always unprotected. So I'm not used to having condoms on. Long story short, I didn't finish. And believe me, it had nothing to do with the fact that she just average. I need a slump buster more than anyone else. I was a little hungover, had worked out that morning, it is a long hot walk from the station, and I'm still jetlagged from my trip over. I don't know if it was that or the fact that once the condom seemed to dull the sensitivity I was focusing on trying to finish as soon as possible. I don't know. When I got on top I was going to just try to pound it out but I got the distinct feeling it wasn't going to happen so I gave up after a few minutes. Plus time was getting short, and as mentioned before the whole thing was a bit too mechanical.I don't know if this is just rookie jitters or if I just suck or what. Finishing would have been great, although I am happy with the experience I got, so I'm not pissed off or anything. I was thinking of trying a dei cafe today but I'm wondering if I'm just not cut out for this. Plus I'm thinking I probably need a pro to get me over this kind of hurdle and these cafe chicks are part time...[/QUOTE]

CJWPerhaps like you P4P JGirls have spoiled me with Sumata plus BBBJ CIM finish. Covered FS almost seems like a hand job anymore. And it is so much work. I would rather fuck a mouth.

Went by UCLA in Ikebukuro the other night and it was closed up tight. Looking at the website it seems the last day they have a schedule listed for is June 27th. Perhaps it's a sign of the economy, as was mentioned earlier. Kind of a shame, really. I hadn't been there since last year, but some of my best early P4P experiences in Japan happened there.

Am I correct in assuming that the average price is 25,000 Yen for 2-hours?That is about $150 per hour, which is roughly what it costs in a German FKK club for the same amount of time.If this is correct, the prices seem reasonable for a developed country.

Ok so two days ago I had the opportunity to have a bit of sport with AM's Ai. She turned up on time dressed nicely, fashion was good. Cute face, seemingly taller than originally advertised. Seemed slim and well proportioned.Nice and chatty said she'd lived in the US for a year, English was pretty good. In the hotel room, her personality was great. service: bbbj, missionary, wheelbarrow, doggy, her on top. no probs. she did a wonderful job licking me from neck down although wouldn't lick my erm a-hole which i suppose is fair enough. I have only two main problems with this outing. 1) her pussy stank rather bad and it put me off. 2) her belly was flabbier than i had expected. That is I could grab it in my hand rather easily. Face 7/10, figure 5/10, service 7/10. negative points across the board -1 for smell.

Has anyone seen Tsubaki from Nasty Dolls? I had her one time, and I'd like to repeat the experience. She dropped out of ND a few months ago.Can anyone help?

[QUOTE=Xslikx]You can ask for her by name, honshimei 本指名, but it costs 6,000. Which actually is less than the cost of a decent pink salon or oppai bar.[/QUOTE]Is it 2K over the normal fee, meaning 5K on a weekend afternoon, or a straight 6K?I went back one last time before the end of my trip. It was a third woman whose name escapes me. Three syllables starting with an A perhaps. DATY was on the menu again but the overall experience wasn't great.

[QUOTE=Mahaba]Am I correct in assuming that the average price is 25,000 Yen for 2-hours?That is about $150 per hour, which is roughly what it costs in a German FKK club for the same amount of time.If this is correct, the prices seem reasonable for a developed country.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the prices on many of the soapland pages (I assume that's what you're talking about) are a bit misleading if you're not familiar with kanji and/or how the system works. The prices listed on many of the webpages are simply the "bath fee". The actual price is about two and a half to three times that. Add on top of that an extra 5, 000 to 10, 000 if you aren't Japanese (or can't pass yourself off as Japanese). So if you see a price of 25, 000 for 2 hours, it's not unreasonable to expect to pay up to 85, 000.However, there are some soaplands that list the total price, and those ones tend to be significantly less expensive (though not that much lower in quality in my admittedly limited soapland experience). Basically, it comes down to the kanji that's used with the price. If it says [I]zeikomi[/I] (which can be translated into "tax included") then that's probably just the bath fee. If it says [I]sougaku[/I] (which translates into "total amount") then that's all you'll pay aside from the previously mentioned 'tax' if you're not Japanese. With that included, the prices will start at about 23, 000 for one hour.

I'd the same problem with Satsuki also from AM. Her pussy smell bad which easily put me off and she got a bad breath at the time I called for her (strong garlic taste and smell) although after I gave her listerine to gargle through.Satsuki have a petite body but her service I can only rate as 5/10 while her face as in person rated 4/10. Good point is she really try to please you, can easily spot her gambatte attitude from her effort.Would love to try Natsu, the last few times she's not on the list when I gave AM a call. Maybe she's just not for me yet, while my all time favorite from AM is still Sayuri.[QUOTE=Yuffei]Ok so two days ago I had the opportunity to have a bit of sport with AM's Ai. She turned up on time dressed nicely, fashion was good. Cute face, seemingly taller than originally advertised. Seemed slim and well proportioned.Nice and chatty said she'd lived in the US for a year, English was pretty good. In the hotel room, her personality was great. service: bbbj, missionary, wheelbarrow, doggy, her on top. no probs. she did a wonderful job licking me from neck down although wouldn't lick my erm a-hole which i suppose is fair enough. I have only two main problems with this outing. 1) her pussy stank rather bad and it put me off. 2) her belly was flabbier than i had expected. That is I could grab it in my hand rather easily. Face 7/10, figure 5/10, service 7/10. negative points across the board -1 for smell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Llewelyn]Unfortunately, the prices on many of the soapland pages (I assume that's what you're talking about) are a bit misleading if you're not familiar with kanji and/or how the system works. The prices listed on many of the webpages are simply the "bath fee". The actual price is about two and a half to three times that. Add on top of that an extra 5, 000 to 10, 000 if you aren't Japanese (or can't pass yourself off as Japanese). So if you see a price of 25, 000 for 2 hours, it's not unreasonable to expect to pay up to 85, 000.However, there are some soaplands that list the total price, and those ones tend to be significantly less expensive (though not that much lower in quality in my admittedly limited soapland experience). Basically, it comes down to the kanji that's used with the price. If it says [I]zeikomi[/I] (which can be translated into "tax included") then that's probably just the bath fee. If it says [I]sougaku[/I] (which translates into "total amount") then that's all you'll pay aside from the previously mentioned 'tax' if you're not Japanese. With that included, the prices will start at about 23, 000 for one hour.[/QUOTE]85,000 Yen ($960.00)???Is that what two-hours with a Japanese hooker costs?If so, it must be REAL good. I am not here to judge, and the women deserve to get paid whatever the market will provide. It just seems unreasonably expensive.Am I missing something??

[QUOTE=Mahaba]Am I missing something??[/QUOTE]This has been mentioned many times in the forums, but you can find soaps for about 23,000 yen an hour as Llewelyn mentioned. The price your quoting are for "high end" soaps. The girls at the high end ones are generally amazing. I've gone a handful of times and each time was great. That being said, I've found girls of equal skill and beauty at other places. The lower end soaps you'll also run into attractive girls, but you might also find a few girls who are a bit older or maybe not as great as the high end ones. Don't be discouraged, a lot of those still have some great girls.There are all sorts of different types of shops in Japan that you might want to look into. Generally soaps are the only place where you can get guaranteed FS, but there are a few other options out there.

[QUOTE=Mahaba]85,000 Yen ($960.00)???Is that what two-hours with a Japanese hooker costs?If so, it must be REAL good. I am not here to judge, and the women deserve to get paid whatever the market will provide. It just seems unreasonably expensive.Am I missing something??[/QUOTE]yes, you missed the cost of the airticket for those who fly in, LOL